President Trump rallies Fox and GOP leaders to defend his refusal to concede, and the White House blocks Biden’s transition efforts. #DailyShow #TrevorNoah #Trump
I rest my case. Trump didn’t think it was a joke. Pompeo knew Trump wouldn’t think it was a joke. He said it anyway. https://t.co/Kp7YVb6IJW
— Jonah Goldberg (@JonahDispatch) November 11, 2020
Sec. of State Pompeo outright denies the election results: ‘There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration’ pic.twitter.com/ZWlBTxWjkh
— NowThis (@nowthisnews) November 10, 2020
re: #1 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
It’s also not a thing you joke about. Maybe next time one of Biden’s Justice people should talk about putting Kansas Chris Christie here in prison without a trial and see if they can get away with the “Aw shucks, I was just joking guys!” In the race between who is the most despicable of Trump’s cabinet members, it’s a close tie between Pompeo and Barr. Both of whom btw are fanatical religious zealots.
re: #1 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
I was kind of surprised that no one boooed Pompeo when he said that. It was an outrageous and provocative thing to say at that podium.
edit: also stupid and rude.
He hasn’t tweeted or replied to a tweet since he posted that 3 days ago
Montana’s Republican secretary of state to Trump:
“Tip your hat, bite your lip and congratulate @JoeBiden” https://t.co/E7RInVgbX3— Andrew Solender (@AndrewSolender) November 11, 2020
re: #4 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
He hasn’t tweeted or replied to a tweet since he posted that 3 days ago
Make no mistake about it guys, we’re going to experience an internal GOP Civil War. Take advantage of that and help out Abrams’ organization in Georgia to help Ossoff and Warnock out. The Republicans are fighting among themselves. Hell there’s already bad blood between Kelly Loeffler and Doug Collins(who wanted Trump’s support so bad and you can bet that he’s going to be complaining that he would have been better than Loeffler.).
Honest to god, this may be a bad idea, but maybe the Joint Chiefs of Staff - all of them - need to go to Trump and tell him it’s over. Tell him that Joe Biden will be the next POTUS and that effective immediately, any illegal orders Trump tries to issue are null and void.
And yeah, I know it’s probably not a good idea because it would immediately have the MAGAts shrieking about a putsch, a DEEP STATE COUP!! But hell, these asshats are trying to straight-up gaslight their way into an illegal second term in office.
re: #4 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
He hasn’t tweeted or replied to a tweet since he posted that 3 days ago
Have the fine voters of Montana thrown him off a cliff?
Click on it 😂😂😂 https://t.co/bu0aWmvvGS
— Randy 🏴☠️ (@BigDfromCinci) November 11, 2020
re: #6 Dr Lizardo
Honest to god, this may be a bad idea, but maybe the Joint Chiefs of Staff - all of them - need to go to Trump and tell him it’s over. Tell him that Joe Biden will be the next POTUS and that effective immediately, any illegal orders Trump tries to issue are null and void.
And yeah, I know it’s probably not a good idea because it would immediately have the MAGAts shrieking about a putsch, a DEEP STATE COUP!! But hell, these asshats are trying to straight-up gaslight their way into an illegal second term in office.
I know they hate to get political but this is an unprecedented crisis. The more GOP prolongs this the more we worry about a stab in a back type legend emerging about this election. That this is even happening is such a disgrace because Trump has never realistically planned to deal with a world where he’s a political loser.
re: #6 Dr Lizardo
Honest to god, this may be a bad idea, but maybe the Joint Chiefs of Staff - all of them - need to go to Trump and tell him it’s over. Tell him that Joe Biden will be the next POTUS and that effective immediately, any illegal orders Trump tries to issue are null and void.
And yeah, I know it’s probably not a good idea because it would immediately have the MAGAts shrieking about a putsch, a DEEP STATE COUP!! But hell, these asshats are trying to straight-up gaslight their way into an illegal second term in office.
Add to that the proviso that any orders from Trump that are unusual will be deemed illegal.
re: #2 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
It’s also not a thing you joke about. Maybe next time one of Biden’s Justice people should talk about putting Kansas Chris Christie here in prison without a trial and see if they can get away with the “Aw shucks, I was just joking guys!” In the race between who is the most despicable of Trump’s cabinet members, it’s a close tie between Pompeo and Barr. Both of whom btw are fanatical religious zealots.
Yeah, the religious whack jobs that have convinced themselves that Trump is God’s Annointed Regent on Earth will go along with any shit from Trump.
It’s basically an extension of “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” from Voltaire.
You have to wonder if Biden’s people have reached out to senior military at this point.
Joe seemed to be really cool this afternoon in his presser. I’m thinking he knows where the brass stand on this shit.
re: #10 EPR-radar
Add to that the proviso that any orders from Trump that are unusual will be deemed illegal.
Exactly.
This might end with Trump refusing to admit that the electoral college is legit and insisting that he is, in fact, the rightful POTUS. And then we’ll be treated to the squalid (if amusing) spectacle of the Secret Service forcibly ejecting Trump from the White House come 20 January, 2021.
re: #12 makeitstop
You have to wonder if Biden’s people have reached out to senior military at this point.
Joe seemed to be really cool this afternoon in his presser. I’m thinking he knows where the brass stand on this shit.
Oh absolutely. There are definitely some ambitious junior officers who want to get Trump’s affection but the high command and senior officers? I bet they can’t stand Trump. They know Biden. They trust him even if they may have some domestic disagreements- Admiral McRaven explained that he has differences with Biden on guns and abortion but he trusts his judgment when it comes to national security. I imagine other officers are thinking along the same lines.
From downstairs:
re: #286 EPR-radar
Trump will try and Barr will help, that much is for sure. However they will need brute force and/or a veneer of legitimacy to succeed. Trump’s court cases aren’t giving him that veneer of legitimacy, and brute force from the military seems unlikely, even with the DOD leadership changes.
So brute force from federal law enforcement agencies would be the likeliest path. IMO Trump doesn’t have the nerve to go for something like that. He is fundamentally a coward.
Trump is a coward but Barr isn’t and this is the only time he will have a chance to impose his theocratic vision on this nation. As I keep repeating, his forces murdered Reinoehl in Portland. So don’t count anything out.
re: #10 EPR-radar
Add to that the proviso that any orders from Trump that are unusual will be deemed illegal.
The JCS has been warned about “unusual orders”. I joke (cruelly) about the custodian of The Football whimpering in a corner of the White House, but I’ll bet he or she is keeping their distance, especially after one of the officers got COVID.
re: #13 Dr Lizardo
Exactly.
This might end with Trump refusing to admit that the electoral college is legit and insisting that he is, in fact, the rightful POTUS. And then we’ll be treated to the squalid (if amusing) spectacle of the Secret Service forcibly ejecting from the White House come 20 January, 2021.
I mean there’s part of me that hates that it may have to come to that. It’s embarrassing what he’s put us through and continues to. But there’s another part of me that wants him humiliated on national TV that would not just kill his brand as a “tough guy” forever but also weaken his party and enablers.
re: #14 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Oh absolutely. There are definitely some ambitious junior officers who want to get Trump’s affection but the high command and senior officers? I bet they can’t stand Trump. They know Biden. They trust him even if they may have some domestic disagreements- Admiral McRaven explained that he has differences with Biden on guns and abortion but he trusts his judgment when it comes to national security. I imagine other officers are thinking along the same lines.
Another thing we have to check for at times like this is the penetration of hard core religious zealotry in the senior officer corps. As I recall, the Air Force Academy was becoming wingnut central a while back. Was that ever curbed? I sure hope it was.
re: #17 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
I mean there’s part of me that hates that it may have to come to that. It’s embarrassing what he’s put us through and continues to. But there’s another part of me that wants him humiliated on national TV that would not just kill his brand as a “tough guy” forever but also weaken his party and enablers.
I’m too irritable to be any kind of military officer, much less a very senior one, but if I were in the position of a JCS member having to explain reality to a dipshit in the White House, I’d damn well make it a coordinated raid vs. the worst of said dipshit’s partners in crime.
re: #17 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
I mean there’s part of me that hates that it may have to come to that. It’s embarrassing what he’s put us through and continues to. But there’s another part of me that wants him humiliated on national TV that would not just kill his brand as a “tough guy” forever but also weaken his party and enablers.
I’m genuinely curious to see how Trump reacts to an electoral college vote for Biden as POTUS 46. I’d almost wager that Trump will lose his shit and refuse to recognize it.
Pork shoulder came off after 11 hours. Was very good. Mustard sauce was a wee bit hot. I swapped Rooster Sauce in for Crystal Louisiana Hot Sauce. I’d say 1/3 measure of the Rooster Sauce would have been equal in heat to the Crystal.
hmmm rumors about some Trump electors jumping to Biden????
Lre: #22 🌹UOJB!
hmmm rumors about some Trump electors jumping to Biden????
Salt on his wounds. Why not.
re: #23 stpaulbear
Then there’s this possible reason for Trump’s behavior:
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Deutsch may well be right - Trump planning on setting up a subscription network and spinning his defeat as a “heroic last stand” or something to that effect.
re: #25 Dr Lizardo
Deutsch may well be right - Trump planning on setting up a subscription network and spinning his defeat as a “heroic last stand” or something to that effect.
Yes but Deutsch didn’t game it out to the next step. Trump will say he found Jesus and he will start Trump Ministries barnstorming from church to church and literally fleecing the marks everywhere he goes!
re: #22 🌹UOJB!
hmmm rumors about some Trump electors jumping to Biden????
Why?
They might be subject to the same penalties for “faithlessness” as any other ticket-jumper.
Also: Electors are designated by state Parties, they’re going to be reliable partisans, and since they are designated on a statewide level, there seems to little incentive to “jump”.
(2016 with its 7 Faithless Electors seems to have been an anomaly)
Nice thought, though.
re: #23 stpaulbear
Then there’s this possible reason for Trump’s behavior:
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That sounds plausible to me. He was calling it rigged from the start. Just like last time. And I agree with the assessment of why he likes being President too.
re: #25 Dr Lizardo
Deutsch may well be right - Trump planning on setting up a subscription network and spinning his defeat as a “heroic last stand” or something to that effect.
And that would pay his bills too.
re: #27 Jay C
Why?
They might be subject to the same penalties for “faithlessness” as any other ticket-jumper.
Also: Electors are designated by state Parties, they’re going to be reliable partisans, and since they are designated on a statewide level, there seems to little incentive to “jump”.
(2016 with its 7 Faithless Electors seems to have been an anomaly)
Nice thought, though.
I imagine even some quite partisan Republicans are annoyed by this. The further you’re removed from Trump, the better.
re: #29 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
And that would pay his bills too.
Damn straight - as Deutsch noted, potentially up to one billion a year revenue stream. That’s pretty lucrative, to say the least.
OK, off to work. Back later.
re: #31 Dr Lizardo
Damn straight - as Deutsch noted, potentially up to one billion a year revenue stream. That’s pretty lucrative, to say the least.
OK, off to work. Back later.
Later. He definitely has a new grift in mind and he’s going to use it to create an even more absurd reality than the one he’s already created.
re: #25 Dr Lizardo
Deutsch may well be right - Trump planning on setting up a subscription network and spinning his defeat as a “heroic last stand” or something to that effect.
It’s probably not any one thing, but a kind of shotgun of self interest.
Throw a big fit and see if it gets you what you want…but also monetize that victimization…but also start planning how to create a long term arc of maintaining that narcissistic supply…but also seek to cause harm as a balm against that feeling of rejection.
re: #33 The Ghost of a Flea
It’s probably not any one thing, but a kind of shotgun of self interest.
Throw a big fit and see if it gets you what you want…but also monetize that victimization…but also start planning how to create a long term arc of maintaining that narcissistic supply…but also seek to cause harm as a balm against that feeling of rejection.
Which is why, in a rational country, Trump would have been out of his ass via impeachment or 25th amendment as soon as he started this week’s circus, because who the fuck needs this shit from lame duck Trump.
But the GOP is every bit as dysfunctional as Trump, and are petrified of being primaried by Trumpist loons for insufficient fealty to the Orange Menace.
re: #12 makeitstop
You have to wonder if Biden’s people have reached out to senior military at this point.
Joe seemed to be really cool this afternoon in his presser. I’m thinking he knows where the brass stand on this shit.
Didn’t he have hundreds of retired generals etc publish an endorsement petition? I’ll bet they’re burning up the phone lines.
re: #12 makeitstop
You have to wonder if Biden’s people have reached out to senior military at this point.
Joe seemed to be really cool this afternoon in his presser. I’m thinking he knows where the brass stand on this shit.
I dont think we’re a country where the military will interfere in either direction, and that hurts Trump the most.
re: #35 sagehen
Didn’t he have hundreds of retired generals etc publish an endorsement petition? I’ll bet they’re burning up the phone lines.
25 four star retired generals and admirals iirc. That’s a lot given how apolitical they strive to be.
So one of my favorite composers dropped the second of a seven part series, so far so good (am at track #5):
re: #23 stpaulbear
Then there’s this possible reason for Trump’s behavior:
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A darker take: One of his closest advisors is Putin, who is an expert at overthrowing a novice democracy. Trump, who knows nothing about our institutions but has shown an expertise at undermining them all , would be an eager student at how to gain the wealth and power that Putin wields within Russia. There is no guarantee that Trump will defer to the decision of the Electoral College. So far the judiciary has been holding up — but what if one of the cases falls to a Trump appointed judge? Given the apparent total GOP submission to Trump and his authoritarianism, I feel that we are close to a precipice and it wouldn’t take much for us to fall.
.@bradheath is tweeting some of the Michigan affidavits the Trump campaign has compiled and aggressively promoted on TV, and https://t.co/yeZgXvakjt
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) November 11, 2020
re: #39 Hecuba’s daughter
A Trump shit-case going before a total right wing hack district court judge would be dangerous.
One thing that comforts me is that if I can think of this obvious danger point, so can Biden’s people.
re: #6 Dr Lizardo
Honest to god, this may be a bad idea, but maybe the Joint Chiefs of Staff - all of them - need to go to Trump and tell him it’s over. Tell him that Joe Biden will be the next POTUS and that effective immediately, any illegal orders Trump tries to issue are null and void.
And yeah, I know it’s probably not a good idea because it would immediately have the MAGAts shrieking about a putsch, a DEEP STATE COUP!! But hell, these asshats are trying to straight-up gaslight their way into an illegal second term in office.
No, just no. We’re not going to become Turkey, where it’s an open secret that the president serves at the pleasure of the military and not the other way around. Because down that route is the Turkey that exists today, where the president has all but neutered the military as a moderating force and thus is able to do virtually whatever he likes. We should have faith that our military leadership will respect our democratic institutions and not take action that favors one candidate over the other. Whether we like it or not, until January 20th, Trump is the president and thus his orders are to be obeyed unless they violate existing law.
re: #42 Targetpractice
No, just no. We’re not going to become Turkey, where it’s an open secret that the president serves at the pleasure of the military and not the other way around. Because down that route is the Turkey that exists today, where the president has all but neutered the military as a moderating force and thus is able to do virtually whatever he likes. We should have faith that our military leadership will respect our democratic institutions and not take action that favors one candidate over the other. Whether we like it or not, until January 20th, Trump is the president and thus his orders are to be obeyed unless they violate existing law.
This is all very true, but the problem remains of how to deal with a fascist GOP that retains its power. We can’t have election after election like this where the only question is whether this is the time the GOP finally gets its fascist dictatorship.
Hints of this were already apparent in the W Bush years, and it has grown much worse since then. Any future GOP president is likely to be at least as much of a fascist as Trump is, and better at it.
re: #43 EPR-radar
This is all very true, but the problem remains of how to deal with a fascist GOP that retains its power. We can’t have election after election like this where the only question is whether this is the time the GOP finally gets its fascist dictatorship.
Hints of this were already apparent in the W Bush years, and it has grown much worse since then. Any future GOP president is likely to be at least as much of a fascist as Trump is, and better at it.
Idea needs developing, but something involving lifting every stone and shining the cold, harsh light of day on what’s underneath would be the principle…
re: #43 EPR-radar
This is all very true, but the problem remains of how to deal with a fascist GOP that retains its power. We can’t have election after election like this where the only question is whether this is the time the GOP finally gets its fascist dictatorship.
Hints of this were already apparent in the W Bush years, and it has grown much worse since then. Any future GOP president is likely to be at least as much of a fascist as Trump is, and better at it.
Well, one thing we have to keep in mind at the present is that Biden is not officially the president. Until the results are certified and electors have voted, he remains the projected winner of the election. Traditionally that’s a distinction without a difference, but in this case we’re dealing with assholes who intend to push this all the way to the point where by law they no longer have a leg to stand on.
Would anyone really have approved of Trump using the declaration of his “victory” on Election Night to begin ordering the military to put down any resistance to his rule?
An absentee Detroit ballot was sent from a city other than Detroit. pic.twitter.com/jRGGwXboCC
— Brad Heath (@bradheath) November 11, 2020
re: #45 Targetpractice
Well, one thing we have to keep in mind at the present is that Biden is not officially the president. Until the results are certified and electors have voted, he remains the projected winner of the election. Traditionally that’s a distinction without a difference, but in this case we’re dealing with assholes who intend to push this all the way to the point where by law they no longer have a leg to stand on.
Would anyone really have approved of Trump using the declaration of his “victory” on Election Night to begin ordering the military to put down any resistance to his rule?
Of course not, and it was foolish of me to link my frustration with the GOP fascism problem with talk of unacceptable military solutions.
I am just damn tired of Republicans always being able to play these games and never suffering any consequences for them.
re: #47 EPR-radar
Of course not, and it was foolish of me to link my frustration with the GOP fascism problem with talk of unacceptable military solutions.
I am just damn tired of Republicans always being able to play these games and never suffering any consequences for them.
We all are, and I agree with the sentiment that the military should speak with Trump to make clear they will not support any efforts to override the results of the election. But we should be sure that, in trying to fight these monsters, we do not become monsters ourselves.
Good. This is the anti-Putin foreign policy that has Trump and Putin so concerned about.
— medit8now (@medit8now) November 11, 2020
And so it begins…
I just saw a Reddit post by someone with extreme anxiety asking how to order a sandwich at Subway because they’ve never tried it and someone repiled & wrote out step-by-step instructions without being snarky or judgmental and it is the kindest, sweetest thing I’ve seen in months
— The Feel Good Page ❤️ (@akkitwts) November 11, 2020
re: #47 EPR-radar
Of course not, and it was foolish of me to link my frustration with the GOP fascism problem with talk of unacceptable military solutions.
I am just damn tired of Republicans always being able to play these games and never suffering any consequences for them.
None of these GOP Members should be seated in January until the House Admin Committee looks into their claims of fraud affecting their own races.
The House’s power to do so is seperately set forth in the Constitition and is unrelated to the outcome of the presidential election. https://t.co/WVJqXXVemY— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) November 10, 2020
There’s this. Marc Elias (Biden campaign head lawyer, I think) is not a shitposting kind of guy. Why should these idiots get seated in the House when they’ve alleged fraud IN THEIR OWN ELECTIONS? We can have a nice hearing where they state under oath what their evidence is and isn’t, and maybe then the Dems will let them in.
re: #32 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Later. He definitely has a new grift in mind and he’s going to use it to create an even more absurd reality than the one he’s already created.
as long as that absurd alternate reality is not in charge of appointing government officials and determining policy, I guess I will be able to deal with it.
re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
as long as that absurd alternate reality is not in charge of appointing government officials and determining policy, I guess I will be able to deal with it.
I could sure do without this business of Trump LARPing as a dictator wannabe as lame duck POTUS just to drive up his future ratings a bit (if that’s all this ends up being).
re: #53 EPR-radar
I could sure do without this business of Trump LARPing as a dictator wannabe as lame duck POTUS just to drive up his future ratings a bit (if that’s all this ends up being).
It becomes clear that this has a lot to do with the Senate run-offs in January. Trump has to hang on and refuse to concede or accept the results or his party stands a good chance of losing the Senate and thus its ability to block and obstruct Biden’s agenda.
Trump would have done so anyways, as this is in keeping with his personal interests, but now even his own party is held hostage to his tanTrumps and is compelled to go along.
re: #50 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
And so it begins…
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I know this probably seems irrational and silly to most people, but that is one aspect of my own anxiety issues.
If I’ve never been somewhere before and I’m alone it’s BAD.
If I’ve never been somewhere and there’s a procedure I don’t know, it’s panic attack inducing.
I’m very happy about this little thing.
Dead Or Alive - You Spin Me Round pic.twitter.com/1JhLUDuNo7
— Cat Vibes To (@CatVibesTo) November 9, 2020
re: #55 Jack Burton
I know this probably seems irrational and silly to most people, but that is one aspect of my own anxiety issues.
If I’ve never been somewhere before and I’m alone it’s BAD.
If I’ve never been somewhere and there’s a procedure I don’t know, it’s panic attack inducing.I’m very happy about this little thing.
Parenting is all about introducing your young ones to new situations which often cause them anxiety and insecurity, and helping them through step for step without being mean or snarky or overly impatient about it.
I felt like I was spending hours on the landing waiting for my daughter to tie her shoes and button her jacket when I could have just reached down & helped her and gotten it over with, but it paid off in the form of helping to produce a very independent and self-assured personality.
re: #54 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It becomes clear that this has a lot to do with the Senate run-offs in January. Trump has to hang on and refuse to concede or accept the results or his party stands a good chance of losing the Senate and thus its ability to block and obstruct Biden’s agenda.
Trump would have done so anyways, as this is in keeping with his personal interests, but now even his own party is held hostage to his tanTrumps and is compelled to go along.
Hanging on like this is damaging to the Republicans with the normie voters, though: this is from personal knowledge. The gooper GA Senators need all of them, too. Trump refusing to agree to a peaceful transfer of power a month(?) or so ago was bad for him, and this is worse.
And I’m quite sure it’s not some sort of balanced risk assessment between pacifying the Trump Cult and the institutional GOP voters: it’s a malignant spoiled narcissist having a breakdown and the rest of the party either riding the grift or trying to weather the storm.
re: #58 ericblair
And I’m quite sure it’s not some sort of balanced risk assessment between pacifying the Trump Cult and the institutional GOP voters: it’s a malignant spoiled narcissist having a breakdown and the rest of the party either riding the grift or trying to weather the storm.
It is clearly on orders from Mitch McC. If he loses control of the Senate, he is irrelevant and will serve out his last term in shame and obscurity.
re: #51 ericblair
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There’s this. Marc Elias (Biden campaign head lawyer, I think) is not a shitposting kind of guy. Why should these idiots get seated in the House when they’ve alleged fraud IN THEIR OWN ELECTIONS? We can have a nice hearing where they state under oath what their evidence is and isn’t, and maybe then the Dems will let them in.
Given the propensity for Republican accusations to be confessions, we should probably look into this anyway.
The Trump “lawsuits” are so shoddy and superficial that they can only be seen as grandstanding and an attempt to buy time and secure support from base voters for the upcoming run-off elections.
re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The Trump “lawsuits” are so shoddy and superficial that they can only be seen as grandstanding and an attempt to buy time and secure support from base voters for the upcoming run-off elections.
Seriously, some of these lawsuits are only marginally better than the kind of legalistic nonsense we see from the Sovereign Citizen bunch.
re: #63 Dr Lizardo
Seriously, some of these lawsuits are only marginally better than the kind of legalistic nonsense we see from the Sovereign Citizen bunch.
but they will be taken up by the press (and especially the RW Internet) and treated as if they had some merit. And will buy time.
Trump would have done this on his own, but probably faced a lot more backlash from his own party if not for the need to show solidarity in Georgia, where the GOP is making a desperate last stand.
re: #64 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
but they will be taken up by the press (and especially the RW Internet) and treated as if they had some merit. And will buy time.
Trump would have done this on his own, but probably faced a lot more backlash from his own party if not for the need to show solidarity in Georgia, where the GOP is making a desperate last stand.
I reckon the GOP is playing along simply because they’re looking at control of the Senate; the last thing they need is an angry and embittered Trump telling his base “The GOP is throwing me under the bus! Send ‘em a message - stay home in GA run-off election!”
If it wasn’t for that, they’d probably tell Trump to go take a flying fuck….and they may well end up doing just that once the GA run-off is concluded, one way or another. If they win control of the Senate, they no longer need Trump and if they lose, they can pin the blame on Trump.
re: #65 Dr Lizardo
They are basically being held hostage by a querulous child throwing a tantrump.
re: #66 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
They are basically being held hostage by a querulous child throwing a tantrump.
And if they didn’t need to fret about control of the Senate, they probably would have gone to the White House by now and told Trump, “Take a fucking seat” or “Loser says what?”
re: #64 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
but they will be taken up by the press (and especially the RW Internet) and treated as if they had some merit. And will buy time.
Trump would have done this on his own, but probably faced a lot more backlash from his own party if not for the need to show solidarity in Georgia, where the GOP is making a desperate last stand.
I don’t think it’s buying time for Trump; he’s the one who turns into a pumpkin if he doesn’t succeed somehow (OK, he’s a pumpkin already, but you know). State vote certifications start tricking in in a couple of weeks, and the more time his crack legal squad wastes on masturbatory exercises that wouldn’t change anything if they succeeded, the less time he has left before results start getting cast in stone.
I tend to agree that the institutional GOP would have been far more active in trying to shut this shit down if not for Georgia. They seem to be trying to pacify the yam enough that he doesn’t call them a bunch of Deep State traitors who stabbed him in the back and completely fucking up the whole thing. Not going well, though, and the GA gooper senators are pouring gas on the fire.
re: #67 Dr Lizardo
And if they didn’t need to fret about control of the Senate, they probably would have gone to the White House by now and told Trump, “Take a fucking seat” or “Loser says what?”
Yeah, not sure about that. As we’ve observed many times over the past few years, most Republicans are really just true believers. They watch the same news, read the same websites - they aren’t just pretending for the rubes, they’re part of the same cult.
It just occurred to me that Trump’s refusal to concede means that every day the story is that he lost.
— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) November 11, 2020
re: #70 dangerman
It just occurred to me that Trump’s refusal to concede means that every day the story is that he lost.
to normal humans outside the bubble who still have faith in our electoral system, yes.
to True Believers, he has been robbed of a victory by massive Democrat voter fraud and corruption.
Breaking: Alec Baldwin is refusing to leave Saturday Night Live. @nbcsnl
— Jerry Avenaim (@avenaim) November 11, 2020
I will be in the minority but I think Trump’s reaction is a gift.
First of all, I think there is no way he stays in power. Full stop.
That being said he will try. The republicans will be forced to concede to the inevitable when the votes are certified.
This will enrage Trump. He will make support for him to be an ultimatum. If he doesn’t get their full support he will undermine the senate races in Georgia.
For a while they will help him, or pretend to, but at some point they will have to make a choice. The have no legal avenue and even fox knows it and is signaling that it will not go along with a coup.
Furthermore, if you are fox, you are starting to see him as a competitor which is hysterical. As competition goes trump could be pretty scary for them but he is still in his infancy. Murdoch and fox will do everything in their power to smother it in the cradle.
Fox is the interesting thing to watch. They created all of this and they faced with a multitude of competitors now.
Forget wapos weasel words
They know
They all know
Tthey all have some emotional defect that prevents all of them from acknowledging it publicly
President Trump’s top confidants -including White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, and adviser Corey Lewandowski — have all said in private that they’re pessimistic about success in Trump’s lawsuits in several states that are looking to overturn election results, the Washington Post reports.
One person with knowledge of the discussions said that Trump will carry on fighting, but even he acknowledges that it will be difficult to succeed.
Ps mcdaniel is gonna be introduced to the underside of the bus
re: #73 Axolotl
I will be in the minority but I think Trump’s reaction is a gift.
First of all, I think there is no way he stays in power. Full stop.
.
He has nothing to lose by fighting it until the bitter end.
Any normal person or career politician would be thinking about the damage caused by refusing to accept the inevitable, but all he is concerned about is maintaining his brand and his narrative that he was robbed of a second term by corrupt Democrats
And he knows what awaits him as soon as he loses his executive immunity.
re: #20 Dr Lizardo
I’m genuinely curious to see how Trump reacts to an electoral college vote for Biden as POTUS 46. I’d almost wager that Trump will lose his shit and refuse to recognize it.
Hell move the goalpost s again
..it’s not official until congress….
But then he’s zugzwanged cause congress will, in no uncertain terms
re: #74 dangerman
That defect isn’t emotional. It’s moral and intellectual bankruptcy.
re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
as long as that absurd alternate reality is not in charge of appointing government officials and determining policy, I guess I will be able to
deal withignore it.
re: #78 dangerman
as long as that absurd alternate reality is not in charge of appointing government officials and determining policy, I guess I will be able to
deal withignore it.
“dealing with” and “ignoring” are pretty much synonymous to me…
re: #68 ericblair
I don’t think it’s buying time for Trump; he’s the one who turns into a pumpkin if he doesn’t succeed somehow (OK, he’s a pumpkin already, but you know). State vote certifications start tricking in in a couple of weeks, and the more time his crack legal squad wastes on masturbatory exercises that wouldn’t change anything if they succeeded, the less time he has left before results start getting cast in stone.
I tend to agree that the institutional GOP would have been far more active in trying to shut this shit down if not for Georgia. They seem to be trying to pacify the yam enough that he doesn’t call them a bunch of Deep State traitors who stabbed him in the back and completely fucking up the whole thing. Not going well, though, and the GA gooper senators are pouring gas on the fire.
electoral-vote.com today
Senate Republicans are pressing Donald Trump to get involved in the Georgia U.S. Senate races ASAP. They would obviously like to get him on record before his electoral position becomes even more tenuous and/or before he has an even worse meltdown than the one that is presently unfolding. Whether Trump realizes that his “fellow” Republicans are using him, and whether he cares as long as they kiss his ring, are open questions. Also an open question is whether Republican pooh-bahs have noticed that Georgia dislikes Trump so much, they just went for a Democrat for the first time in 28 years. Maybe he’s not the asset they think he is.
re: #75 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
He has nothing to lose by fighting it until the bitter end.
Any normal person or career politician would be thinking about the damage caused by refusing to accept the inevitable, but all he is concerned about is maintaining his brand and his narrative that he was robbed of a second term by corrupt Democrats
And he knows what awaits him as soon as he loses his executive immunity.
HE will fight till the end and demand fealty. When it isn’t forthcoming he will do what he does when he doesn’t.
He will see it as a betrayal and act accordingly. What is the worst thing he can do to Mitch? Deny him a majority in the senate. He has the power to do just that.
I actually think Mitch is just playing along for now but he will be forced to make a choice.
Huffpo. The cdc is flexing…
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued its strongest endorsement yet for the widespread wearing of masks, saying Tuesday that face coverings protect both the wearer and those around them from the spread of COVID-19.
“Adopting universal masking policies can help avert future lockdowns, especially if combined with other non-pharmaceutical interventions such as social distancing, hand hygiene, and adequate ventilation,” the CDC wrote in a scientific briefing.
…In a message more specific than others it has issued on the topic, the CDC also said that even a 15% increase in mask-wearing throughout the U.S. could save $1 trillion in economic losses and avert future shutdowns
re: #82 Axolotl
HE will fight till the end and demand fealty. When it isn’t forthcoming he will do what he does when he doesn’t.
He will see it as a betrayal and act accordingly. What is the worst thing he can do to Mitch? Deny him a majority in the senate. He has the power to do just that.
I actually think Mitch is just playing along for now but he will be forced to make a choice.
If Mitch loses his Senate gavel, he knows he will spend his last years in the Senate in obscurity. He will go along.
re: #83 dangerman
In a message more specific than others it has issued on the topic, the CDC also said that even a 15% increase in mask-wearing throughout the U.S. could save $1 trillion in economic losses and avert future shutdowns
too bad.
Truly staggering to see the party that gutted Voting Rights Act, sabotaged USPS, closed polling places, purged voters, attacked mail voting, tried to throw out ballots & fabricated evidence under oath accuse the other side of cheating
— Ari Berman (@AriBerman) November 11, 2020
re: #66 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
They are basically being held hostage by a querulous child throwing a tantrump.
I’m starting to really believe that… The kompromat is real.
re: #73 Axolotl
Furthermore, if you are fox, you are starting to see him as a competitor which is hysterical. As competition goes trump could be pretty scary for them but he is still in his infancy. Murdoch and fox will do everything in their power to smother it in the cradle.
Fox is the interesting thing to watch. They created all of this and they faced with a multitude of competitors now.
The idea of Murdoch being primaried is some weapons grade irony, no?
Oh, good morning!
There’s plenty of election fraud, except it’s all by Republicans.https://t.co/E6GgeXrysB
— Tea Pain (@TeaPainUSA) November 11, 2020
Hey Democratic leaders: It’s time you step up and start fighting for Joe Biden and against Team Trump’s lies about voter fraud. It appears Democratic leaders have updated Michelle Obama’s “When they go low, we go high” to now “When they go low, we go silent.” Unite and FIGHT!
— (((DeanObeidallah))) (@DeanObeidallah) November 11, 2020
re: #90 Patricia Kayden
So in order to show there was “fraud” they had to create it. ::: eye roll ::: This is like reading a bad novel in which one can figure out the entire plot from one page.
re: #92 PhillyPretzel
So in order to show there was “fraud” they had to create it. ::: eye roll ::: This is like reading a bad novel in which one can figure out the entire plot from one page.
and they created it in such a blatant and bumbling and ham-fisted way that anybody could uncover it with a minimum of research.
The President of the United States is angrily fighting against his obvious election defeat and threatening to take the nation down with him and “Will & Grace” star Debra Messing has tweeted mean things toward Trump supporters as both sides descend into anarchy.
— William K. Wolfrum (@Wolfrum) November 11, 2020
re: #94 jaunte
When this is over the words sore looser in the dictionary will have DT’s picture in it.
re: #94 jaunte
The President of the United States is angrily fighting against his obvious election defeat and threatening to take the nation down with him and “Will & Grace” star Debra Messing has tweeted mean things toward Trump supporters as both sides descend into anarchy.
Time for some Joni Mitchell
Trump’s campaign hasn’t presented any evidence of widespread fraud in its numerous legal challenges contesting the result.https://t.co/4Wegil0ZcM
Also, Philly elections officials getting death threatshttps://t.co/QSuFddh6ej https://t.co/seetUmPs9i— Andrew Seidman (@AndrewSeidman) November 11, 2020
No one has the “right” to behave like a petulant child and be a sore loser. And no one has the “right” to file frivolous lawsuits. Lawyers are sanctioned for wasting the courts’ time when they do so. There is no evidence of voter fraud, and there never has been. Time to move on.
— Daniel Goldman (@danielsgoldman) November 11, 2020
re: #97 jaunte
Mr Al Schmidt is one of those people with whom you do not want to fight. If anything he is a very upstanding person and the fact that DT is picking on him does not bode well for DT.
Honestly, kind of hilarious. Democrats spent years demanding paper ballots and other anti-fraud measures. This law firm defended the State, saying those measures were unnecessary.
Now they’re suing the State for having insufficient anti-fraud measures.https://t.co/CmBM6HcRac— Andrew Fleischman (@ASFleischman) November 11, 2020
re: #99 PhillyPretzel
I will put this very plainly: DT just stepped on a nest of murder hornets.
I got you https://t.co/bcPSzkq56l
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) November 11, 2020
re: #102 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
could someone with oodles of 💰💰💰 please take out an ad in a newspaper that has all of the foreign dignitaries who have acknowledged + congratulated president-elect biden?
Proof that the corruption and collusion extend beyond our borders!
Have offered to bet anyone 20 to 1 odds Trump has lost. Not one taker. Okay. Let’s make it 40 to 1. Money goes in escrow. Distribute on inauguration. Come on, Trump world! Support your leader! Or do you know it’s all a lie? https://t.co/E3eiipsPnD
— stuart stevens (@stuartpstevens) November 11, 2020
re: #99 PhillyPretzel
Mr Al Schmidt is one of those people with whom you do not want to fight. If anything he is a very upstanding person and the fact that DT is picking on him does not bode well for DT.
Someone posted this yesterday. Read it. It’s awesome.
The Fake Pollsters at @ABC/@washingtonpost produced a possibly illegal suppression Poll just before the Election showing me down 17 points in Wisconsin when, in fact, on Election Day, the race was even - & we are now preparing to win the state. Many such “deplorable” instances!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 11, 2020
“Illegal suppression poll”
He’s just completely making shit up.
re: #90 Patricia Kayden
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re: #106 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
I agree. Phildelphians are tough crowd but DT has really stepped into one heck of a mess. DT is going to get an answer he does not expect.
Get over it Gramps, you lost and you lost big.
The vast majority of Americans rejected you. LOSER.— Yeah Sure WTF Ever 🇨🇦🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸🇨🇦 (@YeahSureWhatev2) November 11, 2020
It’s so weird watching Trump install dangerous nut jobs at the pentagon while being told by the press it’s just performance art.
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) November 11, 2020
re: #94 jaunte
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The President of the United States is angrily fighting against his obvious election defeat and threatening to take the nation down with him and “Will & Grace” star Debra Messing has tweeted mean things toward Trump supporters as both sides descend into anarchy.
— William K. Wolfrum (@Wolfrum) November 11, 2020
The quest for the Holy Grail of commercial news production, perfect equivalence, approaches its absurd denouement.
The idea of balanced news coverage originated with the creation of the first wire services, Reuters and AP, in the mid nineteenth century. Before that, the idea of a newspaper being balanced in its coverage and opinions would have been completely alien, if not ridiculous. Most papers proudly declared their allegiance right on the masthead. The wires, however, had to provide news to papers with a range of opinions. Just ignoring likely controversies was not an option since it would defeat the purpose of news gathering. This notion of balance spread to the client publications themselves, and eventually to the reading public, which came to mistake this necessary business strategy for some kind of moral principle. Of course, the outlets did not lose their biases, they just learned how to be conceal and deny them, leading to the utterly corrupt and ineffectual media we see today.
Just a reminder of how large a pro-Trump tilt the EC has. Biden is on his way to winning the election by a five million vote margin, close to double Clinton’s margin of victory over Trump. But as of today if you flipped less than 73k votes in Pennsylvania, Georgia and Arizona, Trump would be winning. I optimistically believe, however, that it won’t be easy for a mere politician to assume the mantle of leadership of Trump’s cult and get the turnout Trump did. And the GOP base keeps shrinking demographically in a diversifying nation.
President-elect Biden on President Trump not conceding:
“I just think it’s an embarrassment, quite frankly … At the end of the day, you know, it’s all going to come to fruition on Jan. 20.” pic.twitter.com/65wro0neIf— MSNBC (@MSNBC) November 10, 2020
re: #113 NO SMOCKING GUN!
As I stated in my comments #99 and #101 DT one way or another is not going to get what he wants from Philly. Demoralizing Al Schmidt is not the way to do it. And DT just made one very powerful enemy.
COVID Speed in the US
First 1 million cases = ~100 days
Last 1 million cases = 10 days!!!!!
It’s not due to testing. You can test all you want in Vietnam, Taiwan, S. Korea and you find anywhere near this burden of disease
It’s due to not testing, not believing, not acting— Faheem Younus, MD (@FaheemYounus) November 10, 2020
Record #COVID day in the wrong ways.
Cases up to 130k today. Given Tuesdays are typically ~50% of Fridays, it’s not unreasonable to expect a 200k day this week.
Currently Hospitalized at the highest point yet recorded - and North Dakota didn’t even report today. pic.twitter.com/Yt0nDKN4Vh— Peter Walker (@PeterJ_Walker) November 11, 2020
Approximately 1% of the US population is known active:
The number of active cases in the US rose to over 3.7 million. pic.twitter.com/zwa6Rrklek
— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec) November 11, 2020
At least three medics who received Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine have contracted the coronavirus in Siberia, regional authorities announced Tuesday https://t.co/8N2xUN1vV7
— The Moscow Times (@MoscowTimes) November 11, 2020
A scary picture:
Tehran’s massive Behesht-e-Zahra cemetery is struggling to keep up with the death toll from the coronavirus pandemic ravaging Iran. Double the usual number of bodies arrive each day, and grave diggers have excavated thousands of new plots. https://t.co/BEgwwfqqWj
— AP Middle East (@APMiddleEast) November 11, 2020
And an idiot:
Bolsonaro, today: “I am sorry about the (Covid) deaths. I am …. But we are all going to die someday … We have to stop being a country of sissies.” https://t.co/SxLnw6kc8o
— David Luhnow (@davidluhnow) November 10, 2020
re: #117 Belafon
That is bs. I will put more faith in Pfzier.
Dude, sit the F down and shut the F up.
No. Absolutely not.— Yeah Sure WTF Ever 🇨🇦🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸🇨🇦 (@YeahSureWhatev2) November 11, 2020
re: #114 Belafon
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In a way I’m kind of glad Trump is going out like a toddler throwing a tantrum. History won’t record that he at least finally acted presidential as he performed his sacred duties of transferring power to the new President with grace and humility, but that instead Trump was a disgrace to the Office from the moment he entered until the moment he slunk off to Mar-a-Lago, never even meeting with Biden or attending his inauguration as President Obama did him. His record will be nothing but a black stain on American history.
re: #108 Dopefish: Ever hopeful.
The thing that gets me about this is that they are making us the enemy. Up until recently, I always held that our political opponents aren’t the enemy; they aren’t evil, they just have a different opinion of how to help America. No more. The Republican Party has no desire to help America anymore. All they want to do is own the libs and institute a Conservative Christian State, and they are evil.
i have several versions of this that i pull out when necessary - lest we forget
- american politics has long since stopped being a clash of value systems, each of which is in some way valid; a competition between basically well-intentioned people who see the world differently.
it is no longer a conflict of interests, but instead an “our team no matter what”, degenerative, brutal struggle for office and power in which Republicans with righteous indignation believe that all Democrats are and only Democrats can be capable of behaving despicably while they themselves run roughshod over it all
I just signed up for the AstraZeneca SARS-COV-2 vaccine trial that is going on at Johns Hopkins. I did all my prelim stuff yesterday, but I have to wait until tomorrow to get my spot. The protocol had a stupid about no non-flu vaccines within 30 days.
Yes, this is the vaccine that had three transverse myelitis cases — one of which was because the patient had MS etiologies.
So here’s Pompeo saying he’s telling foreign governments that Biden has not been elected President. From Friday until Monday 11/23 he’ll be in France, Turkey, Georgia, Israel, Qatar, Saudi and the UAE. pic.twitter.com/IizRf0gdMY
— Spencer Ackerman (@attackerman) November 11, 2020
Given the Republicans’ well known penchant for projection, and Q-Anon’s status as an influential Republican center, I wonder if there might be something to their predictions of a gigantic roundup based on allegations whose nature and extent will shock the world. The difference is that it will happen to the Republicans when the massive nature of their treason and criminality is revealed.
That is, Q (Watkins) knows what is coming and is desperately projecting it onto the other side.
re: #125 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
I hope the foreign leaders laugh at him and then hang up the phone.
The sight of Trump being hauled out of the White House strapped to a forklift would have TEH GREATEST RATINGS IN TEH HISTORY OF TELEVISION!!!11!!!
re: #121 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
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What pisses me off about Amash is he tries to act above partisan politics when he’s in fact very partisan about his kooky libertarian worldview. He’s also leaving Congress too. Not listening to this former Freedom Caucuser who is part of the hypocrisy that is the Ron Paul ecosystem.
I was thinking about this yesterday: Is there any way Trump can block access to the Capitol and National Mall so that Bidens inauguration can’t take place there?
re: #128 The Pie Overlord!
The sight of Trump being hauled out of the White House strapped to a forklift would have TEH GREATEST RATINGS IN TEH HISTORY OF TELEVISION!!!11!!!
There’ll be a lot of cleaning up when Trump leaves office. pic.twitter.com/cN0yowSi3q
— 𝕊𝕦𝕟𝕕𝕒𝕖 𝔾𝕦𝕣𝕝 (@Sundae_Gurl) November 10, 2020
re: #128 The Pie Overlord!
I would love to see as in the words of Julian Fellows as delivered from the mouth of Maggie Smith “… nails catching at the door casing … “
re: #131 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
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Okay. I had a legit panic attack because for a hot minute, I thought this was an actual photo. That’s how bad Trump is; what should be an obvious parody/shop is within the realm of plausibility.
re: #131 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
There’s uh….a lot going on in that picture.
re: #112 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
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The quest for the Holy Grail of commercial news production, perfect equivalence, approaches its absurd denouement.
The idea of balanced news coverage originated with the creation of the first wire services, Reuters and AP, in the mid nineteenth century. Before that, the idea of a newspaper being balanced in its coverage and opinions would have been completely alien, if not ridiculous. Most papers proudly declared their allegiance right on the masthead. The wires, however, had to provide news to papers with a range of opinions. Just ignoring likely controversies was not an option since it would defeat the purpose of news gathering. This notion of balance spread to the client publications themselves, and eventually to the reading public, which came to mistake this necessary business strategy for some kind of moral principle. Of course, the outlets did not lose their biases, they just learned how to be conceal and deny them, leading to the utterly corrupt and ineffectual media we see today.
That is fascinating history I didn’t know, thanks!
re: #130 Eclectic Cyborg
I was thinking about this yesterday. Is there any way Trump can block access to the Capitol and National Mall so that Bidens inauguration can’t take place there?
Technically he can be sworn in anywhere. Think LBJ on AF1 after JFK’s assassination.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
CNN has been wildin out since Trump lost 😂 pic.twitter.com/cOVD8tvVst
— Edgard (@Yaboyedgard) November 10, 2020
re: #122 NO SMOCKING GUN!
In a way I’m kind of glad Trump is going out like a toddler throwing a tantrum. History won’t record that he at least finally acted presidential as he performed his sacred duties of transferring power to the new President with grace and humility, but that instead Trump was a disgrace to the Office from the moment he entered until the moment he slunk off to Mar-a-Lago, never even meeting with Biden or attending his inauguration as President Obama did him. His record will be nothing but a black stain on American history.
Orange?
re: #134 Eclectic Cyborg
There’s uh….a lot going on in that picture.
Kind of fun to spot details, even though I’m not good at that kind of thing. Among other details, I see a Confederate flag, a blow-up doll, a KFC box doing service as a lampshade, and a recently used shovel with a pile of dirt.
It just occurred to me that Trump’s refusal to concede means that every day the story is that he lost.
— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) November 11, 2020
Trump the loser. Trump the sore loser. Trump the fascist fucker thinks he can stay in power even after January 20 despite losing the popular vote and the electoral college by huge margin.
Trump the fascist fucker whose sycophantic suckups keep telling Trump what he wants to hear despite facts and reality saying he’s a big big loser.
There’s absolutely no way he finds more than a handful of isolated claims of voter fraud, let alone the tens of thousands in a single state to overturn the count in any one single state. He’d need to do so in 3-5 states, which means he lost. Bigly.
The fucker is continuing to undermine US natsec in every way imaginable and will burn the nation on the way out the door to the cheers and approval of the GOP that enables this conduct.
These are the same GOPers who insisted Hillary concede and not question the results, even when there was ample evidence of malfeasance and foreign interference.
Let the process play out? Yeah, it’s called subverting the transition as Trump refuses to properly conduct a transition and acts as though he’s got a second term all while putting even more sycophantic suckups into key positions in the national command structure.
None of this is fine.
None of this is acceptable.
This is what banana republics do. This is the kind of thing that autocrats do - the ones we used to insist follow the law and respect the will of the people. We’ve lost that moral authority worldwide. Trump did that.
Russia and China congratulate Trump on a job well done. He’s made Russia and China great and diminished our world standing in four short years.
re: #130 Eclectic Cyborg
I was thinking about this yesterday: Is there any way Trump can block access to the Capitol and National Mall so that Bidens inauguration can’t take place there?
1. Biden doesn’t need a big ceremony. They could do it virtually as long as the right people are involved.
2. They can have the ceremony later.
3. We don’t need to think up weird scenarios. The normal disturbing ones are enough.
re: #128 The Pie Overlord!
The sight of Trump being hauled out of the White House strapped to a forklift would have TEH GREATEST RATINGS IN TEH HISTORY OF TELEVISION!!!11!!!
Trump loves big ratings!
re: #130 Eclectic Cyborg
I was thinking about this yesterday. Is there any way Trump can block access to the Capitol and National Mall so that Bidens inauguration can’t take place there?
Don’t give him any ideas!
re: #135 NO SMOCKING GUN!
That is fascinating history I didn’t know, thanks!
“A Dispatch from Reuters” is a pretty good movie
Edward g robinson
Biden team should mock up a pizza place with a trapdoor leading to a basement where he will be sworn in.
re: #131 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
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Seriously, President Biden should give a hazmat team a few days to thoroughly clean the WH after Trump leaves before he moves in.
re: #146 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Not only clean it but “debug” it too.
re: #147 PhillyPretzel
Not only clean it but “debug” it too.
To be clear, you’re talking about ACTUAL bugs, right?
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re: #119 Belafon
It’s horrific, because it’s also coming to other countries in similar waves. We’ve seen similar waves of deaths and overwhelmed cemeteries here in the US too, especially around NYC where cases exploded along with deaths during March through May.
re: #139 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
Kind of fun to spot details, even though I’m not good at that kind of thing. Among other details, I see a Confederate flag, a blow-up doll, a KFC box doing service as a lampshade, and a recently used shovel with a pile of dirt.
A framed photo of Diamond and Silk!
re: #146 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Seriously, President Biden should give a hazmat team a few days to thoroughly clean the WH after Trump leaves before he moves in.
They definitely will need to also do a serious security sweep. The place is probably lousy with bugging equipment.
re: #148 Eclectic Cyborg
I am glad you put that sarc tag at the end. You know I am referring to the electric kind and I am very serious about that.
Trump’s purge of career DOD officials and competent leaders continues. Pushing Esper out the door also sent others out the door too.
And the people Trump’s put in their place are willing to violate the Constitution to satisfy Trump. Read the whole thread:
Short thread.
FWIW, my takeaway from conversations last night with recent DOD senior officials:
1) DOD under Esper has pushed back more than many people realize against many Trump ideas, ranging from use of troops here at home, to Afghan withdrawal, to military options re Iran.— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) November 11, 2020
re: #139 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
Kind of fun to spot details, even though I’m not good at that kind of thing. Among other details, I see a Confederate flag, a blow-up doll, a KFC box doing service as a lampshade, and a recently used shovel with a pile of dirt.
Yes. It reminds me of an old cartoon feature in, I believe, Mad magazine?
re: #155 lawhawk
I will have to read it later.
Charles, I have a really advanced feature request, that might be undoable with the current Twitter interface, but: could you make it so that threads can be expanded here if someone embeds the initial tweet? You could hide it with a “Show More” button or something like that.
New: President-elect @JoeBiden’s national lead has surpassed 5 million votes.
Biden: 77,320,379 (50.8%)
Trump: 72,221,116 (47.4%)— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) November 11, 2020
50.8% of the vote. That’s a bigger margin of victory than Reagan’s 1980 defeat of Carter.
Trump now owns the worst blowout loss by an incumbent in decades. That goes with losing the popular vote twice and wrecking the economy and killing 300,000+
Make America Great My Ass.
re: #159 lawhawk
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50.8% of the vote. That’s a bigger margin of victory than Reagan’s 1980 defeat of Carter.
Trump now owns the worst blowout loss by an incumbent in decades. That goes with losing the popular vote twice and wrecking the economy and killing 300,000+
Make America Great My Ass.
Good. No one is more fucking deserving of such a failure.
Republicans are distracted by the mad king and frivolous lawsuits. Q has vanished and Trump supporters are deflated. Enthusiasm on the Right is rapidly dwindling. Now is the time for Democrats to throw everything at Georgia and make Mitch McConnell minority leader.
— Christopher Bouzy (@cbouzy) November 11, 2020
re: #161 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
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For two months, the population of Georgia doubles as Democrats offer to personally carry each voter to the polls on January 5th.
Politico: “It will be nearly impossible for Republicans to alter the outcome or prevent Biden from taking office. Counting all the states where he currently leads in voting, Biden has 306 electoral votes. In Michigan, Biden’s lead at the moment is more than 10 times larger than Trump’s winning margin was there in 2016. To date, Trump’s campaign has yet to produce evidence in any state of the kind of widespread ballot fraud the president alleges.”“Yet one week after the election, there is no sign any of that is sinking in. Instead, the controversy seems to be metastasizing within GOP circles, as the party unites behind an idea that threatens to distract Washington and state capitals for weeks amid an ongoing pandemic and a looming transition of government.”
the thrall he has them in is incredible
one week after the election and they are all virtually in lock step going over this cliff that no one, absolutely no one would have considered from four years ago back to the beginning of recorded time
unless it’s kompromat and not thrall
re: #163 dangerman
unless it’s kompromat and not thrall
Or maybe it’s simply the fact he got more votes than any GOPer in history, and they’re terrified of alienating that rabid base of support.
re: #163 dangerman
the thrall he has them in is incredible
one week after the election and they are all virtually in lock step going over this cliff that no one, absolutely no one would have considered from four years ago back to the beginning of recorded time
unless it’s kompromat and not thrall
I think it’s the realization that, unless they end democracy, they are going to keep losing power because their demographics are shrinking and they would actually have to come up with ideas or let minorities into their fold.
re: #159 lawhawk
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50.8% of the vote. That’s a bigger margin of victory than Reagan’s 1980 defeat of Carter.
Trump now owns the worst blowout loss by an incumbent in decades. That goes with losing the popular vote twice and wrecking the economy and killing 300,000+
Make America Great My Ass.
I realized that Biden’s margin of victory is even smaller than I mentioned above, because I forgot about Alaska, which hasn’t been called yet. Assuming Trump wins Alaska, he could’ve obtained an electoral college tie by flipping Wisconsin, Georgia and Arizona, which he lost by a combined total of fewer than 48k votes. Then the House would reelect him President. We dodged a bullet!
re: #163 dangerman
the thrall he has them in is incredible
one week after the election and they are all virtually in lock step going over this cliff that no one, absolutely no one would have considered from four years ago back to the beginning of recorded time
unless it’s kompromat and not thrall
It’s thrall. Trump controls the voters they need to win. He has the power to destroy any GOP politician with one tweet, maybe Romney excepted.
re: #166 NO SMOCKING GUN!
I realized that Biden’s margin of victory is even smaller than I mentioned above, because I forgot about Alaska, which hasn’t been called yet. Assuming Trump wins Alaska, he could’ve obtained an electoral college tie by flipping Wisconsin, Georgia and Arizona, which he lost by a combined total of fewer than 48k votes. Then the House would reelect him President. We dodged a bullet!
States Biden is winning because of the awesome organizational efforts of Abrams and whoever got Native Americans to vote.
And, if Democrats figure out that what Abrams is doing needs to be done at a national level - and they would be idiots not to - Texas needs to be divided into at least two areas, because it’s just too big and too diverse to be treated as one block.
They realize they need to keep voters alive for another 2 months, right? https://t.co/pWPAsjidLk
— Schooley (@Rschooley) November 11, 2020
re: #166 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Alaska was called with 75% of vote in. As expected.
re: #168 Belafon
States Biden is winning because of the awesome organizational efforts of Abrams and whoever got Native Americans to vote.
Whites overwhelmingly voted for Trump. Our democracy was saved by people of color.
re: #119 Belafon
Bolsonaro is the Brazilian Trump. So he’s basically telling his citizens that he’s okay with watching them die. Good to know.
re: #172 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Whites overwhelmingly voted for Trump. Our democracy was saved by people of color.
Gee, I just can’t imagine why whites would like this guy and people of color wouldn’t.
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At the end, we’ll see that Biden won by about…
14,000 votes.
There’s few cases of recounts overturning the initial counts, but all involve margins far smaller than this.
Trump lost, and this just seals the deal.— lawhawk #maskingforafriend (@lawhawk) November 11, 2020
re: #175 lawhawk
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Not to get into tinfoil-hat territory, but is there any possibility the GA secretary of state could cave to pressure and pull some sort of shenanigans during the recount to reverse the result?
re: #177 Interesting Times
Not to get into tinfoil-hat territory, but is there any possibility the GA secretary of state could cave to pressure and pull some sort of shenanigans during the recount to reverse the result?
Only if he’s the only one doing the counting.
re: #177 Interesting Times
Not to get into tinfoil-hat territory, but is there any possibility the GA secretary of state could cave to pressure and pull some sort of shenanigans during the recount to reverse the result?
I’m struggling to think of anything he could do, as long as Biden’s observers are able to oversee everything. If that doesn’t happen, anything’s possible, but there would be an obvious and enormous outcry of foul play if that were the case.
re: #177 Interesting Times
Doubtful. It would take some pretty hefty shenanigans to disappear tens of thousands of votes.
re: #178 Belafon
Only if he’s the only one doing the counting.
And Trump just attacked him, pissing him off.
So I’ve not been on Facebook since the election.
Just checked my Facebook timeline… and it seems the fundamentalists are all about posting statements of their faith.
It appears that the Trump lost have sent them into a religious tizzy.
Now there are complications: the religious folk on my timeline who definitely are NOT Trumpers have to chime in and support their fellow religious, even thought the upshot of the fundamentalists is that they’re just doint rote servitude to fundamentalist orthodoxy.
This once again supports my belief that what we are seeing in all this election stuff goes far beyond simple politics.
And in great part the talking heads on TV and the writers in text-media are avoiding this.
Trump’s loss means God failed.
That should be the headline that is run and discussed.
re: #148 Eclectic Cyborg
To be clear, you’re talking about ACTUAL bugs, right?
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Probably both sorts. Wouldn’t you?
This is probably a naive question, but if they’re doing a full hand recount, why are they saying it’s only for the presidential race? Shouldn’t any “invalid” ballots be removed from the other totals as well?
re: #148 Eclectic Cyborg
To be clear, you’re talking about ACTUAL bugs, right?
/
re: #184 CleverToad
This is probably a naive question, but if they’re doing a full hand recount, why are they saying it’s only for the presidential race? Shouldn’t any “invalid” ballots be removed from the other totals as well?
Not that I’m an expert, but ISTR that the system in all states “recounts” first to confirm the pure numbers ( to ensure that counties, localities, etc got the totals right) and that checking ballots for their validity ( signatures, dates, etc.) is a separate (/simultaneous?) process: but that if a ballot is disqualified, all the votes on it, for whatever office, are canceled. I think.
re: #187 Jay C
Not that I’m an expert, but ISTR that the system in all states “recounts” first to confirm the pure numbers ( to ensure that counties, localities, etc got the totals right) and that checking ballots for their validity ( signatures, dates, etc.) is a separate (/simultaneous?) process: but that if a ballot is disqualified, all the votes on it, for whatever office, are canceled. I think.
…of course there might be 50 sets of rules for 50 states.
re: #182 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Trump’s loss means God failed.
That should be the headline that is run and discussed.
God doesn’t “fail”.
But he’s not a meddler, not a micro-manager. He’s happy enough to let human beings make human decisions. Free will, and all that.
Remember, the “Target Karen” who went batshit a few months ago, tearing down a display of masks while shouting cuss words?
She found those answers in QAnon, which she discovered through some of the natural wellness and spirituality spaces she inhabited online. She spent her nights, then her days, scrolling through them as her mind wandered further away from reality.
“It basically purports to have all the answers to the questions you have. The answers are horrifying and will scare you more than reality, but at least you feel oddly comforted, like, ‘At least now I have the answer,’ ” she said, adding, “They tell you the institutions you’re supposed to trust are lying to you. Anybody who tells you that QAnon is [wrong] is a bad guy, including your friends and family. It happens gradually, and you don’t realize you’re getting more and more deep in it.”
Lady, I’ve had a year from hell - most of us have - but you don’t see us going off in public and destroying things that other people need to keep them safe.
re: #189 sagehen
Very deistic of you.
But we were assured by God’s own prophets, that 1000 Spec-Op angels had been dispatched to assure Trump’s victory.
re: #189 sagehen
God doesn’t “fail”.
But he’s not a meddler, not a micro-manager. He’s happy enough to let human beings make human decisions. Free will, and all that.
I made this point a few days ago. People like to excuse certain politicians winning elections as “God’s will”. God’s will may include certain politicians winning, but we have to make God’s will happen. God’s will magically happening is what Christians refer to as a “miracle”.
re: #108 Dopefish: Ever hopeful.
The thing that gets me about this is that they are making us the enemy. Up until recently, I always held that our political opponents aren’t the enemy; they aren’t evil, they just have a different opinion of how to help America. No more. The Republican Party has no desire to help America anymore. All they want to do is own the libs and institute a Conservative Christian State, and they are evil.
My view is that a good government has three main roles….
1: Protect its people from enemies abroad.
2: Protect its from internal enemies/lawbreakers.
3: Increase the utility /happiness of every citizen.
In a perfect world liberals would come up with new ideas for how to increase utility, and then serious people in suits would argue which of those ideas are best/which of those ideas are practical or not.
Now though….
“No you can’t have mail in ballots even though there’s no proof they create fraud, it would make it too easy to vote! You need to stand in line for hours if you want to cast a ballot!
“No you can’t have college debt forgiveness even though college debt has ballooned all out of proportion to what it used to be, you need to suffer!”
“No you can’t have a Universal Basic Income even though it would make people happy and doesn’t decrease their desire to work, it makes people too happy!”
“No you can’t have enough food stamps to make sure children aren’t going hungry they need to starve if they’re poor!”
It rapidly has started to feel like the modern GOP is against the idea of increasing anyone else’s utility/happiness, and instead are a party of greedy sadists.
re: #182 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
If you decide to wade in, ask them if in fact, what Trump losing means is that they don’t speak for God.
I thought I was ready to handle all the post-election GOP bullshit. Light at the end of the tunnel and all. Turns out, not so much. Their shenanigans are seriously stressing me out.
Bright side, everyone here is keeping me sane. Those who are stressing make me feel like I’m not alone. Those with cooler heads prevailing are alleviating some of the stress. Those posting non-political stuff are providing some much needed distraction.
Thanks to the lizard community, one and all.
re: #195 Teddy’s Person ✌
You are welcome. One of many reasons why I come here is for a sane view of the world. :)
re: #187 Jay C
Not that I’m an expert, but ISTR that the system in all states “recounts” first to confirm the pure numbers ( to ensure that counties, localities, etc got the totals right) and that checking ballots for their validity ( signatures, dates, etc.) is a separate (/simultaneous?) process: but that if a ballot is disqualified, all the votes on it, for whatever office, are canceled. I think.
No expert here, either, but once the mail in ballots are taken from their envelopes there isn’t any way to tell which ones came from where. They can count the ballots and tally the votes but there isn’t any way to invalidate a particular ballot other than a claim that a ballot is spoiled due to “marking the oval outside the line” sort of thing. Not seeing the Dem observers going along with 14,000 instances.
re: #190 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)
Why do all of these women look like Stepford wives who were plucked out of Fox central casting?
re: #195 Teddy’s Person ✌
Tough not being distracted by the guy who has been distracting us for the last 4 years.
We won and Biden is going to be inaugurated on Jan 20th, we have kept our democracy.
Also, a reply to one of my tweets uncovered this:
They’re already plotting to gun libs down in the street, and thanks to @parler_app they’re able to push out this kind of rhetoric with no accountability. pic.twitter.com/41plLHk7HY
— ThatsMadameVicePresidentToYou 🌊 (@alovelily) November 11, 2020
He’s standing in the rain. A sight to see.
re: #198 lawhawk
Why do all of these women look like Stepford wives who were plucked out of Fox central casting?
“You obviously learn who your real friends are fast. I found out that I didn’t have very many,” Lively said through tears. “This is why this whole cancel culture is so scary. What happens when a human being gets canceled? They don’t want to exist anymore.”
After trying to repair her marriage and figure out the help she needed, she attended an eight-week trauma program at the Meadows, a rehabilitation facility in Wickenburg, Ariz. She swore off QAnon. She sent an apology letter to the employees of Target. She started a YouTube channel to discuss topics like mental health and conspiracy theories. Finally, in mid-August, a former client called to hire her, the first since the incident.
When these privileged Stepford Wives screw up in public, they get to take an 8-week vacation at The Meadows.
When black folks screw up in public, the police shoot them in the back 7 times.
re: #168 Belafon
States Biden is winning because of the awesome organizational efforts of Abrams and whoever got Native Americans to vote.
GOP version:
States Biden is winning because of the awesome corruption of Abrams and whoever gave enough whiskey to Native Americans to vote.
re: #203 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)
When these privileged Stepford Wives screw up in public, they get to take an 8-week vacation at The Meadows.
When white people think black folks screw up in public, the police shoot them in the back 7 times
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re: #201 Egregious Philbin
Parler…ugh….
Aka “Meinspace”
My greatest hope is that Parler turns into Yahoo News Comments, circa 2002. Basically a place where “free speech” has degenerated into nonstop trolls screeching in all-caps, message headers decorated with elaborate uses of parentheses to make it look like some “Kilroy is flipping you off” etc. etc.
The immutable law of the internet is that no content moderation leads to noise drowning out any hope of a signal.
When that happens - or is hitting the tipping point - all the sob-sisters who flounced from Facebook & Twitter will come crawling back, tails between their legs, begging to be readmitted to decent society.
re: #203 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)
Thank you. That’s all I was thinking about while reading that article. She gets her life back. Others would be dead.
re: #205 Teddy’s Person ✌
Edited for accuracy.
Can’t tell you how many times I read on police use of force reports the same sentence:
“The suspect then made what appeared to be a sudden motion towards his waistband. Acting in fear of my life, and the lives of others, I discharged my service weapon multiple times into the suspect … “
re: #206 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)
Yeah, I had a FB “friend” who after the election (she literally was a flag waving Trumpster) started her dramatic opusing. “This is my second to last post here….”
She did this last year, she will be back, so much comedy gold out there.
re: #206 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)
My greatest hope is that Parler turns into Yahoo News Comments, circa 2002. Basically a place where “free speech” has degenerated into nonstop trolls screeching in all-caps, message headers decorated with elaborate uses of parentheses to make it look like some “Kilroy is flipping you off” etc. etc.
The immutable law of the internet is that no content moderation leads to noise drowning out any hope of a signal.
When that happens - or is hitting the tipping point - all the sob-sisters who flounced from Facebook & Twitter will come crawling back, tails between their legs, begging to be readmitted to decent society.
Parlar does have moderation, they kill any accounts that push back on the hateful, violent rhetoric.
re: #208 Patricia Kayden
Thank you. That’s all I was thinking about while reading that article. She gets her life back. Others would be dead.
Apparently, just carrying a pellet gun around a store - not even ripping stuff off shelves - is a death sentence for black folks.
Jogging through a neighborhood and checking out a house under construction = death.
Playing video games in your house with your nephew = death.
Yeah, I find it really REALLY hard to sympathize with this drama queen.
I mean …
Soon thereafter, she received a call from Doc Elliot, who runs the California-based Phoenix Training Group, which conducts de-escalation training. He wanted to hire her, too. He wanted her to tell her own story.
“When I watched the video of Melissa, instantly my heart was breaking. I knew it wasn’t a typical incident where a so-called Karen goes off the rails,” said Elliot, a longtime mental health advocate. “And that fact that she was [later] owning that was, to me, brilliant.”
To recap:
1. Blonde drama queen destroys shit in a store, threatens people
2. People yell at her for being a freak
3. She curls into a ball, sobbing, “It’s so unfair to be canceled”
4. Other white people sympathize
5. Checks flood in to encourage her to “tell her story”
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
Just donated to Stacy Abrams’ Fair Fight to dampen down the stress. Feel better.
This is an article from The Philadelphia Inquirer about some of the things going on during the vote count. There are a few quotes from Al Schmidt and very little about DT’s tweet about him. inquirer.com
(*sighs*)
Welp. Now I’m all spun up again. Gotta go get a bagel and calm the shit down, because this ain’t healthy for me, either.
Meanwhile, enjoy the long thread of invective:
You may want to mute this account for a while because I feel I may have to individually insult every member of the outgoing administration in crude and personal ways
— Hari Kunzru (@harikunzru) November 7, 2020
Don Junior, you scabrous single-nostriled unloved elephant-murdering human wreckage, vibrating with bitterness and impotent rage at all the opportunities you’ve squandered
— Hari Kunzru (@harikunzru) November 7, 2020
And of course Stephen Miller, you weeping pustule upon the social body, you dreg, you homunculus, you noxious slime felched from the gaping cavity of Jim Crow, one day may you find yourself walking barefoot across hot sand, desperate for water, crying for your missing child
— Hari Kunzru (@harikunzru) November 7, 2020
“6 lawsuits Donald Trump is going to have to deal with when he leaves office” #TrumpGatehttps://t.co/x4yvfJhJ6h
— 𝑪𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒔 𝑻𝒉𝒐𝒓𝒏𝒆 (@thorchrs) November 11, 2020
re: #218 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)
Meanwhile, enjoy the long thread of invective:
I read that thread yesterday. A thing of beauty.
re: #135 NO SMOCKING GUN!
That is fascinating history I didn’t know, thanks!
I always thought that “balance” became a thing in the 60’s through the 80’s when we had just three network, three news services and just about the same dominant newspapers to deliver a kind of consensus.
re: #157 dangerman
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re: #222 steve_davis
why does ivanka start out as an A cup, and wind up with D’s by the last panel?
😳😂
I hadn’t noticed that. Plastic Barbie. Fitting.
re: #221 Sherlock Hound
I always thought that “balance” became a thing in the 60’s through the 80’s when we had just three network, three news services and just about the same dominant newspapers to deliver a kind of consensus.
“The fairness doctrine of the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC), introduced in 1949, was a policy that required the holders of broadcast licenses to both present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that was—in the FCC’s view—honest, equitable, and balanced.” Wikipedia
re: #141 Belafon
1. Biden doesn’t need a big ceremony. They could do it virtually as long as the right people are involved.
2. They can have the ceremony later.
3. We don’t need to think up weird scenarios. The normal disturbing ones are enough.
“Whoops, the swearing-in will be at 12 PM CENTRAL. Our bad.”
re: #204 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
GOP version:
States Biden is winning because of the awesome corruption of Abrams and whoever gave enough whiskey to Native Americans to vote.
Don’t effin’ care.
re: #207 HRH Stanley Sea
All eyes are on his hair. He’s dying.
Is the jack o’lantern holding forth again? Should we expect some good meme pics shortly?
Also, this may reveal how childish I am - but this electric-powered wingsuit from BMW just looks like Rocky The Flying Squirrel with a really bad farting problem
re: #191 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Very deistic of you.
But we were assured by God’s own prophets, that 1000 Spec-Op angels had been dispatched to assure Trump’s victory.
This is my first into to Spec-Op Angels ( I thought it approach to captors the Angel pay to make it more official; what are they armed with and what is their special training?
re: #222 steve_davis
why does ivanka start out as an A cup, and wind up with D’s by the last panel?
It’s more that she’s meant to be turning a little. The 5th panel is smaller than the 4th.
re: #191 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Very deistic of you.
But we were assured by God’s own prophets, that 1000 Spec-Op angels had been dispatched to assure Trump’s victory.
I heard the ones coming up from South America were stopped by CBP at the border and then were locked in cages.
re: #217 I Would Prefer Not To
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LOL
At least they have the listing priority correct….
So I wonder how soon the trolls come crawling out to slag Jill Biden for her use of “Doctor” as a title…..??
(our soon-to-be FLOTUS has a PhD in education, I believe: though I (like I’m sure a lot of my fellow Americans) I thought for quite a while that it WAS something medical)
re: #232 Jay C
LOL
At least they have the listing priority correct….So I wonder how soon the trolls come crawling out to slag Jill Biden for her use of “Doctor” as a title…..??
(our soon-to-be FLOTUS has a PhD in education, I believe: though I (like I’m sure a lot of my fellow Americans) I thought for quite a while that it WAS something medical)
I knew it was educational since she taught at a satelite campus of where I went community college. Hell I even took the course she teaches- it’s a gen ed English class everyone has to take. It was actually the first college level class I ever took. And it really was Community College since I had two classmates that I had graduated from high school with and another who was an older sister of a neighborhood friend. I obviously don’t expect Dr. Biden to be in the administration but I do think her experience at NVCC (Northern Virginia Community College) will prove invaluable to Joe’s education policies as he and his Education Secretary try to reverse what Trump/Devos has done.
re: #232 Jay C
Here is what Wiki has on Jill Biden.
en.wikipedia.org
re: #232 Jay C
(our soon-to-be FLOTUS has a PhD in education, I believe: though I (like I’m sure a lot of my fellow Americans) I thought for quite a while that it WAS something medical)
Because Abby Bartlett is a thoracic surgeon?
re: #174 Eclectic Cyborg
Gee, I just can’t imagine why whites would like this guy and people of color wouldn’t.
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It disgusts me that so many of us white people are down for fascism.
re: #232 Jay C
LOL
At least they have the listing priority correct….So I wonder how soon the trolls come crawling out to slag Jill Biden for her use of “Doctor” as a title…..??
(our soon-to-be FLOTUS has a PhD in education, I believe: though I (like I’m sure a lot of my fellow Americans) I thought for quite a while that it WAS something medical)
Two BA’s in English, PhD in Education.
re: #182 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
So I’ve not been on Facebook since the election.
[…]
And in great part the talking heads on TV and the writers in text-media are avoiding this.Trump’s loss means God failed.
That should be the headline that is run and discussed.
Trump’s loss means we failed God.
Or someone killed God, because that has never been a trope!
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re: #125 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
We’re reminding everyone that I’m a pompous bald-face liar who should not be trusted by anyone, and I sincerely believe that you are too stupid to see this.
re: #177 Interesting Times
Not to get into tinfoil-hat territory, but is there any possibility the GA secretary of state could cave to pressure and pull some sort of shenanigans during the recount to reverse the result?
No. For one thing, it wouldn’t change the election results, so he would go to prison for nothing.
In case you misread that: The *mother* of the girl who integrated New Orleans schools has just died. That’s how recent this history is. https://t.co/ZhCeQtKJtK
— Jonathan Wilson (@jnthnwwlsn) November 11, 2020
re: #130 Eclectic Cyborg
I was thinking about this yesterday: Is there any way Trump can block access to the Capitol and National Mall so that Bidens inauguration can’t take place there?
Trump should welcome Biden’s inauguration at the National Mall. Because of the pandemic, people are not going to be discouraged from gathering in large numbers on the mall. Trump might actually get his photo showing that he had a larger turnout for his inauguration.
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re: #235 sagehen
Because Abby Bartlett is a thoracic surgeon?
No: I’m not sure why, but for the longest time I had thought Jill Biden’s degree was in something like therapeutic medicine - not surgery or specialization - and have no idea why. I’ve since learned better.
Republican reaction to being a minority party is to double down on grabbing power by picking their voters.
One of biggest consequences of 2020 is GOP will again draw 4x as many Congressional districts as Dems & accelerate extreme gerrymandering in states for next decade
I discussed this huge threat to democracy with @marysdesk on @Slate What Next podcast https://t.co/0Vs6rIESq2— Ari Berman (@AriBerman) November 11, 2020
I wonder if Vegas is taking odds yet on who the first Trumper is to enter Witness Protection https://t.co/2S8qmwD65b
— Republican Swine (@RepublicanSwine) November 11, 2020
re: #244 jaunte
Republican reaction to being a minority party is to double down on grabbing power by picking their voters.
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STOP PRESS
PULPIT PIMP TELLS TRUMP YOU GOTTA LET IT GO…BIDEN GAVE YOU A T.K.O.!
Dallas pastor Robert Jeffress, who is one of President Trump’s most loyal evangelical backers, broke ranks with the President’s crusade against the 2020 election results, saying that supporters of Trump should accept the outcome.
Biden’s victory is a “bitter pill to swallow,” Jeffress wrote in an op-ed published by Fox News. “It’s always easier to submit and to pray for someone when he was our preferred candidate. But the rubber really meets the road when the person who takes office is not the one we supported. Here is our chance to show that Christians are not hypocrites.”
FUCK YOU, PULPIT PIMP!
SUCK IT UP ASSHOLE!
President-elect Biden wants to lower the eligibility age for Medicare to 60, a move that’s popular among voters.
But it’ll face opposition from hospitals, who fear adding millions of people to Medicare will cost them billions of dollars in revenue.https://t.co/8slRVMn3Qn— NPR (@NPR) November 11, 2020
re: #206 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)
My greatest hope is that Parler turns into Yahoo News Comments, circa 2002. Basically a place where “free speech” has degenerated into nonstop trolls screeching in all-caps, message headers decorated with elaborate uses of parentheses to make it look like some “Kilroy is flipping you off” etc. etc.
Oh man, I’d forgotten about the Yahoo News comments back when. That was a fucking cesspool man.
re: #241 jaunte
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re: #248 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
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re: #248 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
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Make Medicare the Public Option and open it to everyone.
re: #250 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
I think that’s why I want and advocate for better history education. There’s people who just see our progresses and see them as ancient history. And that’s a problem.
History and Civics. Too many people do not understand our Constitution or how our government works.
re: #208 Patricia Kayden
Thank you. That’s all I was thinking about while reading that article. She gets her life back. Others would be dead.
She gets her life back AND a 2,000 word puff piece (complete with posed glamour photos) in the WaPo. Ugh.
re: #206 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)
My greatest hope is that Parler turns into Yahoo News Comments, circa 2002. Basically a place where “free speech” has degenerated into nonstop trolls screeching in all-caps, message headers decorated with elaborate uses of parentheses to make it look like some “Kilroy is flipping you off” etc. etc.
The immutable law of the internet is that no content moderation leads to noise drowning out any hope of a signal.
When that happens - or is hitting the tipping point - all the sob-sisters who flounced from Facebook & Twitter will come crawling back, tails between their legs, begging to be readmitted to decent society.
Yes I remember that and it really hurt when my son boasted about his love for Dumbya, plastering that brainwashed bullshit all over Yahoo.
re: #248 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
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The ACA survives the latest court challenge, but there will be no new healthcare reform until the Democrats control Congress and the WH, except to reverse Trump administrative policies. For example, the waiver Georgia just received to quit using healthcare.gov should be immediately revoked.
re: #254 BeachDem
She gets her life back AND a 2,000 word puff piece (complete with posed glamour photos) in the WaPo. Ugh.
Everyone should get the same chances she got.
re: #253 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
History and Civics. Too many people do not understand our Constitution or how our government works.
That too but history especially. I’ll tell you this much. It said a lot when the most hyper nationalist people in my 12th grade were the ones failing or barely passing the sample citizenship tests. I’ve prepped people on them in the years since.
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Dallas’ @robertjeffress, leading pro-Trump evangelical conservative, says ‘Biden is president-elect’
While that’s a ‘bitter pill,’ he says, it’s reality and Christians must not be hypocrites, but rather support and pray for @JoeBiden as new president.https://t.co/fYx34oC1ne— Todd J. Gillman (@toddgillman) November 11, 2020
Oy.
Georgia’s secretary of state says there will be a full by-hand count of ballots. CNN has not projected a winner in the Georgia presidential race.https://t.co/gylyeNl0p4
— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) November 11, 2020
re: #190 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)
Remember, the “Target Karen” who went batshit a few months ago, tearing down a display of masks while shouting cuss words?
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Lady, I’ve had a year from hell - most of us have - but you don’t see us going off in public and destroying things that other people need to keep them safe.
Target should have sued that shrew for every last cent it had and then put a lien on her. But then I forgot that she’s white and of course she just was let off the hook…but if she was black the book would have been thrown at her!
re: #252 🌹UOJB!
Make Medicare the Public Option and open it to everyone.
Baby steps. Without the senate, we’ll be lucky to get the age lowered.
re: #261 🌹UOJB!
Target should have sued that shrew for every last cent it had and then put a lien on her. But then I forgot that she’s white and of course she just was let off the hook…but if she was black …
…she would not have made it out of the store alive
Friend in Missouri diagnosed with diabetes and has to take insulin. He’s under 65, lost his job, lost his health insurance, Missouri denied his application for Medicaid…he goes to the pharmacy and is hit with a $1,400 bill for insulin.
In other words, the Jesus Republic of Missouri has sentenced my friend Steve to death…BUT IF STEVE WAS A FETUS IT WOULD BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT MATTER, WOULDN’T IT, JOSH HAWLEY?????
re: #224 Teddy’s Person ✌
“The fairness doctrine of the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC), introduced in 1949, was a policy that required the holders of broadcast licenses to both present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that was—in the FCC’s view—honest, equitable, and balanced.” Wikipedia
I like Aaron Sorkin/Will McAvoy’s description from “The Newsroom”
In the infancy of mass communications, the Columbus and Magellan of broadcast journalism, William Paley and David Sarnoff, went down to Washington to cut a deal with Congress. Congress would allow the fledgling networks free use of taxpayer-owned airwaves in exchange for one public service. That public service would be one hour of air time set aside every night for informational broadcasting, or what we now call the evening news.
Congress, unable to anticipate the enormous capacity television would have to deliver consumers to advertisers, failed to include in its deal the one requirement that would have changed our national discourse immeasurably for the better. Congress forgot to add that under no circumstances could there be paid advertising during informational broadcasting. They forgot to say that taxpayers will give you the airwaves for free and for 23 hours a day you should make a profit, but for one hour a night you work for us.
And now those network newscasts, anchored through history by honest-to-God newsmen with names like Murrow and Reasoner and Huntley and Brinkley and Buckley and Cronkite and Rather and Russert— Now they have to compete with the likes of me. A cable anchor who’s in the exact same business as the producers of Jersey Shore.
re: #262 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Baby steps. Without the senate, we’ll be lucky to get the age lowered.
Nothing will be done for the next 2 years. McConnell won’t even let Joe’s cabinet picks come up for a vote…and for judges…oh forget that!
Makes me wish for Covid to take out a couple Republican Senators…
re: #265 BeachDem
I like Aaron Sorkin/Will McAvoy’s description from “The Newsroom”
In the infancy of mass communications, the Columbus and Magellan of broadcast journalism, William Paley and David Sarnoff, went down to Washington to cut a deal with Congress. Congress would allow the fledgling networks free use of taxpayer-owned airwaves in exchange for one public service. That public service would be one hour of air time set aside every night for informational broadcasting, or what we now call the evening news.
Congress, unable to anticipate the enormous capacity television would have to deliver consumers to advertisers, failed to include in its deal the one requirement that would have changed our national discourse immeasurably for the better. Congress forgot to add that under no circumstances could there be paid advertising during informational broadcasting. They forgot to say that taxpayers will give you the airwaves for free and for 23 hours a day you should make a profit, but for one hour a night you work for us.
And now those network newscasts, anchored through history by honest-to-God newsmen with names like Murrow and Reasoner and Huntley and Brinkley and Buckley and Cronkite and Rather and Russert— Now they have to compete with the likes of me. A cable anchor who’s in the exact same business as the producers of Jersey Shore.
The big problem is that cable, by definition, is not airwaves.
re: #267 Belafon
The big problem is that cable, by definition, is not airwaves.
And the Internet makes that all entirely irrelevant. Neither does one need a license, nor does one need a great deal of technology in order to broadcast.
re: #267 Belafon
The big problem is that cable, by definition, is not airwaves.
Presstitute Russert who worked hand in hand with the RNC to stick Democrats with “gotcha” questions does NOT deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence with Cronkite, Huntley, Brinkley, Reasoner and Murrow.
re: #266 🌹UOJB!
Nothing will be done for the next 2 years. McConnell won’t even let Joe’s cabinet picks come up for a vote…and for judges…oh forget that!
Makes me wish for Covid to take out a couple Republican Senators…
McConnell was hanging out with one of the white house staff that was recently diagnosed.
re: #200 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)
Let’s kill liberals. We are pro-life.
re: #270 stpaulbear
That should make things interesting.
Wordsmith that you are, was there no way to employ the word “bloated”? Or “porcine?” Or, if you eschew a physical insult, “fraudulent”’or “lie-mongering”? Dunno. I just feel one adjective shy of sated. Respectfully, https://t.co/OZD4Fr3Erz
— David Simon (@AoDespair) November 11, 2020
re: #264 🌹UOJB!
Friend in Missouri diagnosed with diabetes and has to take insulin. He’s under 65, lost his job, lost his health insurance, Missouri denied his application for Medicaid…he goes to the pharmacy and is hit with a $1,400 bill for insulin.
In other words, the Jesus Republic of Missouri has sentenced my friend Steve to death…BUT IF STEVE WAS A FETUS IT WOULD BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT MATTER, WOULDN’T IT, JOSH HAWLEY?????
If he can he should move to a state which expanded Medicaid, such as Illinois or Kentucky.
re: #266 🌹UOJB!
Nothing will be done for the next 2 years. McConnell won’t even let Joe’s cabinet picks come up for a vote…and for judges…oh forget that!
Makes me wish for Covid to take out a couple Republican Senators…
Loeffler and Rubio were at a large, unmasked indoor rally!
re: #256 NO SMOCKING GUN!
The ACA survives the latest court challenge, but there will be no new healthcare reform until the Democrats control Congress and the WH, except to reverse Trump administrative policies. For example, the waiver Georgia just received to quit using healthcare.gov should be immediately revoked.
Let’s not get too comfortable on the ACA just yet. I trust the SCOTUS as far as I can throw the building they sit in. They’ll have more chances and they’ll fuck us all.
re: #270 stpaulbear
McConnell was hanging out with one of the white house staff that was recently diagnosed.
And Kentucky has a Democratic Governor!
re: #276 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Let’s not get too comfortable on the ACA just yet. I trust the SCOTUS as far as I can throw the building they sit in. They’ll have more chances and they’ll fuck us all.
I am not aware of any new ACA challenges brewing in the courts, though the Right can get creative. For now, the ACA is safe.
re: #257 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Everyone should get the same chances she got.
Hard to raise people from the dead. I can’t even look at a picture of Breonna Taylor without tearing up.
Llre: #279 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Hard to raise people from the dead. I can’t even look at a picture of Breonna Taylor without tearing up.
My mom was telling me about a kindergartner who died of Covid. I’m happy about the election results and cautiously optimistic but I’m still sad about the lost of life and how many lives have been turned upside down. I’ve definitely felt my own anxieties increasing too.
re: #279 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Hard to raise people from the dead. I can’t even look at a picture of Breonna Taylor without tearing up.
It is heartbreaking. I follow the Auschwitz Museum on twitter, which posts photos of people who were confined, most of whom were killed, many of them toddlers or babies. I will not forget that fascists are mass murderers.
People are saying that Mitch McConnell is actually thousands of Madagascar hissing cockroaches in a skin suit. I think we need to investigate these serious allegations. The stakes are too high to do otherwise.
— Failed Conservative (@AFailedConserv1) November 10, 2020
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Happy Veterans Day.
Let the record show that on Veterans Day the Trump Administration and the Republican Party is trying to invalidate hundreds or thousands of votes from active duty military, veterans, reservists, and their family members.
I never want to hear a Republican say they “support the troops” or “thank you for your service” as long as I live.
If you live in Florida, try to stay safe from Hurricane Eta, the storm that won’t die.
My wife and I are still holed up in our little house on the prairie, doing our best to keep safe from the Republican Plague ravaging the Nebraska Panhandle. It is only a matter of time before our hospitals are overwhelmed here. Nine of the cities and villages here are now at “severe risk” including both cities in my county; amazingly my village still has no cases. All other cities and villages are at “high” risk.
SINCE WHEN DID THE MEDIA CALL ELECTIONS!?!?!
Uh oh - we’ve got another person relying on THE MEDIA, and not the vote certification, to decide who won an election. https://t.co/yEnfH3llJf
— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) November 11, 2020
re: #100 ericblair
Andrew Fleischman
@ASFleischman
Honestly, kind of hilarious. Democrats spent years demanding paper ballots and other anti-fraud measures. This law firm defended the State, saying those measures were unnecessary.Now they’re suing the State for having insufficient anti-fraud measures.
Law firm being a law firm. They will take one position for one client and exactly the opposite position for a different client. Their job is to best represent their client — it’s not as though they are some moral agency fighting for truth and justice— they are only fighting for victory.
re: #282 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
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— Dude. Sheershy. #NeverTrump (@SheershyDude) November 11, 2020
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— Rebecca (@scorpiosoul9) November 11, 2020
re: #284 b.d.
SINCE WHEN DID THE MEDIA CALL ELECTIONS!?!?!
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I saw one hundred caribou eating Biden ballots though.
The Lubbockite Trump cultists that I monitor have pretty well disappeared from Facebook the last couple of days. They were all in yelping about election fraud for a while, then crickets.
re: #212 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Parlar does have moderation, they kill any accounts that push back on the hateful, violent rhetoric.
Parler did remove the infamous “Devin Nunes Cow” apparently because of its cow pie jokes? pictures? Violent rhetoric apparently is ok as long as it doesn’t involve 4-letter obscenities.
re: #285 Hecuba’s daughter
Law firm being a law firm. They will take one position for one client and exactly the opposite position for a different client. Their job is to best represent their client — it’s not as though they are some moral agency fighting for truth and justice— they are only fighting for victory.
However, they can’t sue a former client on an matter they previously represented that client on. Those lawyers should be removed from the case.
re: #284 b.d.
SINCE WHEN DID THE MEDIA CALL ELECTIONS!?!?!
The second the polls closed in Wyoming they called it for Trump, and in Nebraska four of the five Electoral Votes.
Funny how that works.
re: #282 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
Look at his hand. It’s plain as day they’re starting to escape his skin suit.
— Yeah Sure WTF Ever 🇨🇦🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸🇨🇦 (@YeahSureWhatev2) November 11, 2020
re: #292 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
The second the polls closed in Wyoming they called it for Trump, and in Nebraska four of the five Electoral Votes.
Funny how that works.
And of course previously Trump was insisting he wanted the media to call the election Tuesday night.
re: #259 b.d.
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It’s good to see a RW evangelical fanatic apparently standing up for the Constitution, whatever may be his personal motivation. Sort of reminds me of Pat Robertson taking down YEC by saying that position makes biblical adherents look stupid.
Republicans need to understand that it isn’t just us. They are being condemned, mocked and vilified all over the world, with only a few outliers like the Taliban holding up the tattered facade of GOP respectability.
The international community should prop up moderate Republicans (all 23 of them) and impose sanctions on the hard-liners.
— Thomas Juneau (@thomasjuneau) November 11, 2020
re: #288 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
I saw one hundred caribou eating Biden ballots though.
Oops. I didn’t know they got loose. I’ll have a stern talk with them.
re: #299 gocart mozart
Which 23 moderate Republicans?
re: #266 🌹UOJB!
Nothing will be done for the next 2 years. McConnell won’t even let Joe’s cabinet picks come up for a vote…and for judges…oh forget that!
Makes me wish for Covid to take out a couple Republican Senators…
nothing will be done for 2 years. the bright side will be that when Republicans are defending their horrible 2022 map, and Democrats take the majority, there won’t be a bunch of people sitting around talking about how we all need to sing kumbaya. It will be blindingly obvious to everyone that Republicans have no desire to be part of the work of governing.
re: #182 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
So I’ve not been on Facebook since the election.
Just checked my Facebook timeline… and it seems the fundamentalists are all about posting statements of their faith.
It appears that the Trump lost have sent them into a religious tizzy.
Now there are complications: the religious folk on my timeline who definitely are NOT Trumpers have to chime in and support their fellow religious, even thought the upshot of the fundamentalists is that they’re just doint rote servitude to fundamentalist orthodoxy.
This once again supports my belief that what we are seeing in all this election stuff goes far beyond simple politics.
And in great part the talking heads on TV and the writers in text-media are avoiding this.
Trump’s loss means God failed.
That should be the headline that is run and discussed.
Perhaps you can post to them that great Christian loophole which every denomination (not just fundamentalists) use to get out of the plain text of the New Testament:
Sometimes the answer is no.
A pic from our drive this morning.
— Peg (@PFlowerstone) November 11, 2020
re: #304 steve_davis
nothing will be done for 2 years. the bright side will be that when Republicans are defending their horrible 2022 map, and Democrats take the majority, there won’t be a bunch of people sitting around talking about how we all need to sing kumbaya. It will be blindingly obvious to everyone that Republicans have no desire to be part of the work of governing.
But the Corporate Controlled Conservative Press will continue to blame Democrats no matter what…and they will endlessly repeat that Joe raised taxes on lower income people IGNORING THAT THE REPUBLICANS LAID THAT TIME BOMB IN THE TAX BILL TO FUCK JOE!
re: #304 steve_davis
nothing will be done for 2 years. the bright side will be that when Republicans are defending their horrible 2022 map, and Democrats take the majority, there won’t be a bunch of people sitting around talking about how we all need to sing kumbaya. It will be blindingly obvious to everyone that Republicans have no desire to be part of the work of governing.
It’s going to be very interesting to see how it effects the 2022 midterms when SCOTUS reverses Roe, and abortion is banned in most of the country.
Short thread.
Trump is raging at Republicans because they aren’t doing *enough* to sustain the illusion that the election is being stolen from him, CNN reports. Which highlights a big problem for Republicans: Admitting Trump lost cannot be deferred forever. New piece:https://t.co/MEZmuTIm4F
— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) November 11, 2020
re: #284 b.d.
SINCE WHEN DID THE MEDIA CALL ELECTIONS!?!?!
This is all a circular argument…a goalpost on a circular track that the GOP pushes around to which ever point they find rhetorically convenient.
We all know that the results are not official or final until the EC convenes and elects the candidate (Biden) who holds a majority of electoral votes and nothing is likely to change that.
re: #286 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
People are saying that Mitch McConnell is actually thousands of Madagascar hissing cockroaches in a skin suit. I think we need to investigate these serious allegations. The stakes are too high to do otherwise.
we have a right to pursue these options, and more important, he should not be allowed to serve in the Senate until we get to the bottom of this.
re: #286 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
Is Mitch like a baseball bat in that the only way to confirm he is not corked is to saw it in half?
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re: #294 NO SMOCKING GUN!
And of course previously Trump was insisting he wanted the media to call the election Tuesday night.
Because he knew the vote count would be in his favor at that point.
re: #304 steve_davis
nothing will be done for 2 years. the bright side will be that when Republicans are defending their horrible 2022 map, and Democrats take the majority, there won’t be a bunch of people sitting around talking about how we all need to sing kumbaya. It will be blindingly obvious to everyone that Republicans have no desire to be part of the work of governing.
Though the GOP and media will still demand bipartisanship and kowtow by the majority to the Republican positions and policies anyways.
re: #192 Dopefish: Ever hopeful.
I made this point a few days ago. People like to excuse certain politicians winning elections as “God’s will”. God’s will may include certain politicians winning, but we have to make God’s will happen. God’s will magically happening is what Christians refer to as a “miracle”.
If God can only make things happen, then God doesn’t have free will.
As for miracles, funny in a world of cell phone cameras and physicists none are captured. A miracle would essentially be the suspension of physics.
re: #249 Eclectic Cyborg
Oh man, I’d forgotten about the Yahoo News comments back when. That was a fucking cesspool man.
It was ugly. My first real dip into the awful world where everyone is given a voice, including the batshit crazy, and the screaming drowns out everything decent & sane
A vision of Hell. Made me recognize what Twitter and Facebook would eventually turn into.
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