Brad Mehldau: Empty Concertgebouw Sessions (Excerpts From the Album Suite: April 2020)

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The Empty Concertgebouw Sessions are made possible by Van Lanschot Kempen.
A beautiful sessions with the versatile jazz pianist and composer Brad Mehldau, who is just as influenced by Bach as by The Beatles.
► Watch these Empty Concertgebouw Sessions on December 3 at 6:00 PM

PROGRAM:
Excerpts from the album Suite: April 2020
I. waking up
II. stepping outside
III. keeping distance
IV. stopping, listening: hearing
V. remembering before all this

Satellite - John Coltrane
Here’s That Rainy Day - Van Heusen/Burke

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retired cynic  Dec 5, 2020 • 8:56:02pm

This is lovely.

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Sherlock Hound  Dec 5, 2020 • 8:56:21pm

FT. Second time today.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 5, 2020 • 8:57:56pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 5, 2020 • 9:02:38pm
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William Lewis  Dec 5, 2020 • 9:08:22pm

re: #4 Dread Pirate Ron

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Reading that makes me wonder if I didn’t have a case earlier this year without realizing it.
Exhaustion? check
Being out of breath? check
Racing pulse? check.

Sucks to not be sure.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2020 • 9:08:22pm

re: #4 Dread Pirate Ron

This virus is one nasty bitch.

All the better reason to WEAR A FUCKING MASK!

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 5, 2020 • 9:10:29pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 5, 2020 • 9:11:12pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2020 • 9:16:41pm

re: #7 Ace-o-aces

Someone noting the conservative projection in that photograph.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2020 • 9:28:05pm

State senator Adam Morfeld’s (D-legislative district 46) wife has come down with Covid-19.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 5, 2020 • 9:34:59pm
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 5, 2020 • 9:37:30pm

re: #11 Dread Pirate Ron

This was the question I had, but it seems Virginia Readjuster kinda-sorta answered it:

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 5, 2020 • 9:40:29pm

Anonymous sources blast the use of anonymous sources.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 5, 2020 • 9:55:05pm
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Belafon  Dec 5, 2020 • 10:11:38pm

re: #14 Patricia Kayden

I was talking to my son about that yesterday.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2020 • 10:12:23pm
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 5, 2020 • 10:15:21pm
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🌹UOJB!  Dec 5, 2020 • 10:22:40pm

This is how Mom made cucumbers salad with sour cream, thin sliced onions & fresh dill

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2020 • 10:24:06pm

re: #14 Patricia Kayden

It goes back to my argument before (but I’m not a pundit, so I don’t get paid for my takes) on people asking “Why do conservatives vote against their self-interest?” Answer: They aren’t. Their self-interest is racism.

That’s part of the reason so many conservative voters try to deny they’re racist, going all the way back to Ronald Reagan’s welfare queen statements. Inside, they know the majority doesn’t accept racism, so they have to ascribe what they believe to something else. If they’re good enough, they can start believing what they lie to others about.

Many others simply don’t think at all. They’re told what to think, which is where you get Schrodinger’s immigrant: Simultaneously coming here to collect benefits and stealing all the jobs.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 5, 2020 • 10:24:09pm

re: #17 Patricia Kayden

So a campaign rally for two Senate seats turns into incoherent rambling about cucumbers.

Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States of America.

*headdesk*

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2020 • 10:25:09pm

re: #20 Dr Lizardo

We really need an emoji for headdesk.

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William Lewis  Dec 5, 2020 • 10:26:53pm

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We really need an emoji for headdesk.

Facepalm too.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2020 • 10:37:17pm

re: #22 William Lewis

Facepalm too.

We have two for facepalm.

🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♀️

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stpaulbear  Dec 5, 2020 • 10:39:14pm

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We have two for facepalm.

🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♀️

Is “we” LGF or are you getting them from an outside source?

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 5, 2020 • 10:56:34pm

re: #14 Patricia Kayden

This is why so many voters are absolutely convinced that Trump won in a landslide — because they are white voters who think only white voters count. And GOP-led states that have a diverse population are doing their best to make that come true. These white voters certainly don’t care that people of color have suffered the worst under coronavirus. This nation remains infected by the white supremacy that existed at its birth. And that disease has made an open and extensive resurgence under Trump and McConnell.

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2020 • 10:57:34pm

re: #24 stpaulbear

Here’s a description of the Unicode standard for them: emojipedia.org

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:10:02pm

re: #24 stpaulbear

Is “we” LGF or are you getting them from an outside source?

From the emoji pallet in Windows 10.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:16:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:21:47pm

Trump wins court ruling allowing military money to be shifted to pay for border wall (Stars & Stripes)

President Donald Trump can redirect $3.6 billion in U.S. military funds to build a wall along the Mexican border because Texas groups that challenged the decision have no legal right to complain, a federal appeals court said.

The ruling late Friday from the appeals court in New Orleans overturns a decision by a judge in El Paso, Texas, who said Trump broke the law by declaring a national emergency to redirect military money to the wall project after Congress specifically refused to pay for it.

A three-judge panel, in a split decision, ruled that El Paso County and a group of border-community activists didn’t prove they’ve been sufficiently harmed by Trump’s wall to challenge the funding shift.

The local community may have lost tourism and economic activity because of Trump’s rhetoric alleging the area is dangerous and crime-ridden because of an “invasion” of undocumented immigrants but that harm can’t be tied directly to the Pentagon’s funding shift, the majority ruled.

“A direct link, such as the loss of a specific tax revenue, is necessary to demonstrate standing,” wrote the majority, both of whom appointed by President George W. Bush. “Holding otherwise might spark a wave of unwarranted litigation against the federal government.”

The majority judges were all appointed by George W. Bush. The dissenting judge was appointed by Bill Clinton.

The majority acknowledged they reached the opposite conclusion of a hearing in San Francisco, which is being appealed to the Supreme Court. The Texas litigants are expected to do the same.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:37:24pm

An earthquake of that magnitude would certainly get my attention here.

I’ve only been in one earthquake, in Ponca City, Oklahoma. I was awake when it happened editing a book on my computer, and my ancient Royal office typewriter started skating across the desk, followed by a bunch of cans falling out of a kitchen cabinet.

That earthquake did significant damage to downtown buildings, leading to a number of storefront collapses.

The earthquake was not related to fracking; an undiscovered ancient fault deep in the ground was determined to be the source.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:42:41pm

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It must be a real slow night in LA for a 2.6 quake to trend.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:47:15pm
Russia launched its coronavirus vaccine initiative Saturday to contain the disease that is spreading at a record pace.

The most vulnerable will receive the first doses of the vaccine named Sputnik V, including medical workers and teachers. The vaccine was approved in August, despite criticism from Western experts about the country’s dearth of clinical trial information.

Russia rolls out the vaccine as Pfizer and BioNTech are set to introduce a vaccine next week following its approval recently by Britain. The two drugmakers could receive U.S. approval later this month.

Russia ranks fourth in the world in coronavirus infections, with more than 2.4 million, according to the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center.

On Friday, Bahrain became the second country to approve emergency use of the Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine, after Britain.

The challenge in distributing the vaccine will be keeping it cold enough. It must be stored at temperatures around minus 70 degrees Celsius (minus 94 degrees Fahrenheit). Bahrain routinely registers summer temperatures of 40 Celsius (104 Fahrenheit).

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Russia Begins Coronavirus Vaccination Program (Voice of America)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:51:28pm

So, local news.

I was on the telephone for an hour with my mother tonight. She said she had a nice socially-distanced Thanksgiving to which absolutely no one was invited.

Amongst other general chit-chat, I pointed out to her that the fine folks here at Little Green Footballs pointed me to the group Postmodern Jukebox, of which she’d never heard. (She said she’s read this site before but the political conversation sometimes gets too deep for her to follow; she prefers Wonkette.)

She fired up a tune from PMJ on her cellphone, and was instantly hooked.

I pointed out to her a lot of music by all sorts of artists gets posted here, especially by our esteemed host Mr. Johnson, and she should really check it out again.

I invited her to create an account here. We’ll have to see what happens.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:57:29pm

Well, in that case more of the Twitterati need to work on #WeirdoTrump.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:04:40am

And Trump would enjoy it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:13:01am
So, it seems pretty obvious that as I have long said, we’re going to have an Elector Crisis. As the shock wears off and MAGA begins to think about its options, Electors — the weakest link in the Constitution — will begin to grow in significance. They will whip themselves into a crazed frenzy at the idea that if they can just get enough faithless Electors they can win. Probably what will happen is some MAGA shithead is going to kill an Elector as a reminder to them what they should do. Then, to make matters worse, Trump will dox them all on Twitter and we’re going to have a massive, existential crisis as we all worry about what the Electoral College is going to do. To the point that all 300 million of us know the personalities of the Electors way, way, more well than we ever possible imagine.

But hopefully this will pass and we’ll go to whatever the next step in the process is and Trump will attack THAT. Then, probably, he probably is going to fucking lose his mind and salt the earth in a rather dramatic fashion. He may also pardon himself and flee the country.

In a sense, that’s a best case scenario.

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The Coming Elector Intimidation Crisis (Goes to The Trumplandia Report, a blog post by Shelton Burngarner)

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ericblair  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:33:43am

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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The Coming Elector Intimidation Crisis (Goes to The Trumplandia Report, a blog post by Shelton Burngarner)

It’s already getting late for that. The electors vote the Monday after this one, and then they’re done. It doesn’t look like the MAGAts have yet moved on from trying to push the legislatures into some sort of impossible sedition.

In case anybody’s interested, a summary of the state laws on elector selection and voting is here. If any electors don’t show up at the vote because of death or whatever else, the present electors choose substitutes.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:35:09am

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

There are, I think, two “questionable” states (questionable to magats, that is) whose electors aren’t legally required to vote for their pledged candidates — Pennsylvania and Georgia. They have a total of 31 electoral votes. Even if every one of their electors is faithless, Biden still has 275 electoral votes. He needs 270.

And with that, I’m off to bed.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:39:47am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:44:37am

Iowa, otherwise known as East Nebraska.

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ericblair  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:46:18am

re: #38 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

There are, I think, two “questionable” states (questionable to magats, that is) whose electors aren’t legally required to vote for their pledged candidates — Pennsylvania and Georgia. They have a total of 31 electoral votes. Even if every one of their electors is faithless, Biden still has 275 electoral votes. He needs 270.

And with that, I’m off to bed.

The MAGAts are welcome to try. A good article from the AJC on the Democratic electors is here. These are all seasoned politicians who are not going to get intimidated, and have spent their lives in the Democratic Party. Imagine Stacey Abrams voting for Trump, and the rest are all like that.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:51:06am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:53:57am

re: #41 ericblair

The MAGAts are welcome to try. A good article from the AJC on the Democratic electors is here. These are all seasoned politicians who are not going to get intimidated, and have spent their lives in the Democratic Party. Imagine Stacey Abrams voting for Trump, and the rest are all like that.

The article above notes that essentially, conservatives get violent when they don’t get their way.

Look how many public health officials have resigned over threats to families and children.

The idea of the article is the same that is employed by thug conservative regimes against journalists or opponents; you can threaten their families, who aren’t necessarily Democratic stalwarts.

Electors names aren’t commonly known, but they are public, and there aren’t many of them. It is a trivial task to threaten the lives of family members or children, after which the elector has to decide whether to be a “party stalwart” or protect their family.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:55:26am

Lubbock makes the national news again (nbc.com)

Lubbock, Texas, reports that it has no more hospital beds

The city of Lubbock, Texas, has reported that it’s out of hospital beds as the nation faces a record number of coronavirus cases, hospitalizations and deaths.

There were 22 patients in need of the final 17 open beds, according to the city’s Covid-19 dashboard.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:58:11am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:05:45am
WASHINGTON (AP) — A new report by a National Academy of Sciences committee has found that “directed” microwave radiation is the likely cause of illnesses among American diplomats in Cuba and China.

The study commissioned by the State Department and released Saturday is the latest attempt to find a cause for the mysterious illnesses that started to emerge in late 2016 among U.S. personnel in Havana.

The study found that “directed, pulsed radio frequency energy appears to be the most plausible” explanation for symptoms that included intense head pressure, dizziness and cognitive difficulties. It found this explanation was more likely than other previously considered causes such as tropical disease or psychological issues. The study did not name a source for the energy and did not say it came as the result of an attack, though it did note that previous research on this type of injury was done in the former Soviet Union.

(More, one hour ago in the Kearney, Nebr. Hub)

Report finds microwave energy likely made US diplomats ill

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ericblair  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:08:12am

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The article above notes that essentially, conservatives get violent when they don’t get their way.

Look how many public health officials have resigned over threats to families and children.

The idea of the article is the same that is employed by thug conservative regimes against journalists or opponents; you can threaten their families, who aren’t necessarily Democratic stalwarts.

Electors names aren’t commonly known, but they are public, and there aren’t many of them. It is a trivial task to threaten the lives of family members or children, after which the elector has to decide whether to be a “party stalwart” or protect their family.

These electors are almost all long-time high-profile public figures who have spent their lives in fights against racists. I think they know the score. I’m quite sure they will get death threats, because they are always getting death threats, but I very much doubt any one of them will have a second thought. And it would be a nice change if any of the kind souls making death threats got charged with a fraction of the assault and sedition crimes that they are guilty of.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:08:29am

As a reminder, you should delete Fascistbook. “The only moral Facebook account is my Facebook account” is amazingly similar to the excuses for Thanksgiving dinners.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:19:20am
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ericblair  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:31:03am

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

French police assault the wrong Black man - one with his own security cameras - creating a political crisis. via @NYTimes

I’ve got French friends who will rail against the cops any chance they get. And as it says, the brutality is the same as in the US (kettling, abuse of “non-lethal” weapons, and all that shit). They have had lots of practice in the predominately Muslim banlieues.

ETA: The government was about to push through a law restricting the ability of people to legally film French cops on duty. That got dropped in a hurry after this little incident, but they’re going to try it again after the fuss dies down, it looks like.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:41:54am

re: #50 ericblair

I’ve got French friends who will rail against the cops any chance they get. And as it says, the brutality is the same as in the US (kettling, abuse of “non-lethal” weapons, and all that shit). They have had lots of practice in the predominately Muslim banlieues.

ETA: The government was about to push through a law restricting the ability of people to legally film French cops on duty. That got dropped in a hurry after this little incident, but they’re going to try it again after the fuss dies down, it looks like.

The same here. This was a kettling operation. The result was they arrested everyone on the bridge whether they were protestors or not, even though the protestors weren’t violent. The police then jammed them all into tight spaces for most of a day while they charged everyone, exposing them all to Covid-19.

The City of Omaha is run by Republicans, thus they must punish people they perceive being out-of-line, and will spend any amount of tax money to do it, because they are fiscal conservatives.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:48:07am

Those stipulations come from Governor Pete Ricketts.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:49:48am

Is CNN trying to reform princess ‘bonesaw’ MBS?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:57:28am

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The judge in Omaha running the eviction court is a Republican, therefore he is a dick.

He insists all people who have eviction hearings must all show up within the same ten minute time period at the beginning of the day, and all wait in the courtroom packed together before hearing their cases. In almost all cases he orders evictions.

Despite being called out by physicians and public health officials, he insists on holding the hearings in person, no remote hearings.

The eviction court also requires landlords to be in the courtroom as well, under the same restrictions.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 6, 2020 • 2:07:15am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 2:10:29am

re: #53 Dread Pirate Ron

Is CNN trying to reform princess ‘bonesaw’ MBS?

Well, this response is a bunch of steaming horseshit.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 6, 2020 • 2:32:07am

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, this response is a bunch of steaming horseshit.

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I have no fucking clue what they are talking about when they describe what democrats want. I’m not sure they are even syntactically coherent.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 2:37:21am

Huffington Post weighing in on normalising Trump voters.

This never goes the other way. Never.

Yes, I Will Be ‘Reaching Out’ To Trump Voters Now, And Again In 4 Years. Here’s Why.

Hey chowderhead, how about you reach out to people who are not engaged in politics instead, and get them engaged first? He writes as the opening: “If we don’t start discussing these things with each other, coming imperfectly from a place of love, we will never move forward.”

Conservatives and Christian churches don’t care about love unless it affects them personally. They care about power. Unless you can reach out to show them how to increase their power (which they would then crush you with because you’re a gay moonbat) they are not interested in your “reaching out from a place of love.”

Your former church would as soon stone you to death rather than engage you in love. It’s why such a large portion of LGBT people are atheists; the vast majority of churches don’t think you should be allowed to live, much less have rights. Your very existence is considered oppression by a majority of Christians.

Somewhere, in Indiana, my childhood pastor is sitting at his desktop computer posting fake news, memes and a slew of unchecked facts on his Facebook to a congregation of folks who righteously voted against my rights. They call themselves the “no longer silent” majority.

I grew up in a conservative Christian household in Fort Wayne. I was raised in a church where prophecies were declared over the unborn, members spoke “in tongues” and it was normal for children, wandering in from Sunday school, to find their parents convulsing face down on the floor at the altar.

Fear is a feeling I experienced often in church. I remember the grip it had over me every time I walked through the doors. The knots in my stomach, the shame from my secrets: Does everyone know that I’m gay? Can they all see how much I’m struggling?

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They didn’t give a shit about your struggle then, and they don’t now. Come to atheism, we have cookies.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 2:41:36am

re: #57 Dread Pirate Ron

I have no fucking clue what they are talking about when they describe what democrats want. I’m not sure they are even syntactically coherent.

As best as I can tell (I presume English is not the poster’s first language), they are repeating every Republican lie about Democrats they can pack into one tweet:

- Democrats are Socialists (with the thought-stopper that socialism in inherently bad)
- Democrats want to install “socialist liberalism” in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (the implication is both liberalism and socialism are inherently bad)
- Socialists (the stand-in for Democrats) are Satanists.
- Satanists (standing in for Democrats) want democracy in Saudi Arabia, and democracy is inherently bad.

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ericblair  Dec 6, 2020 • 2:51:36am

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Huffington Post weighing in on normalising Trump voters.

This never goes the other way. Never.

Yes, I Will Be ‘Reaching Out’ To Trump Voters Now, And Again In 4 Years. Here’s Why.

The easiest way to frame all this, including the dynamics of evangelical churches, is in the context of an abusive relationship. Right now, the majority of America broke up with its abusive partner, and the abusive partner is going apeshit refusing to let this happen. And these people “reaching out” are trying to be just that much more understanding, that much more accommodating, to the abusive partner so maybe he won’t hurt them so much next time.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 2:53:51am

I get the impression that a lot of Huffington Post’s articles are meant to be “edgy,” in the manner of Jerry Springer or Jeremy Kyle.

I Couldn’t Fulfill My Boyfriend’s Fetish, So We Opened Our Relationship

I have nothing against people’s fetishes as long as they don’t hurt others; have at them, Hoss. Do they really qualify as news? Do you really want to broadcast them to the world?

TL;DR on this story, her boyfriend’s fetish is “feeder” (that is, helping a woman grow fatter). She couldn’t do that as a woman with anorexia nervosa though she tried, so she said “find someone else to help you with that.”

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 6, 2020 • 3:29:36am

The SF bay area counties are doing the same stay at home order to prevent us from reaching that 15% threshold.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 6, 2020 • 3:34:26am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 6, 2020 • 3:45:10am
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dangerman  Dec 6, 2020 • 3:45:54am

One day in January 2021, an old man approached the White House from across Pennsylvania Avenue, where he’d been sitting on a park bench. He spoke to the U.S. Marine standing guard and said, “I would like to go in and meet with President Trump.” The Marine looked at the man and said, “Sir, Mr Trump is no longer President and no longer resides here.” The old man said, “Okay”, and walked away.

The following day, the same man approached the White House and said to the same Marine, “I would like to go in and meet with President Trump.” The Marine repeated, “Sir, as I told you yesterday, Mr Trump is no longer President and no longer resides here.” The man thanked him and, again, just walked away.

The third day, the old man approached the White House and spoke to the very same U.S. Marine, saying again, “I would like to go in and meet with President Trump.” The Marine looked at the man and said, “Sir, this is the third day in a row you’ve been here asking to speak to Trump. I’ve told you each time that he’s no longer the President and no longer resides here. Don’t you get it?”

The old man looked at the Marine and said, “Oh, I understand. I just love hearing it.”

The Marine snapped to attention and said, “See you tomorrow, Sir.”

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2020 • 3:46:53am

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

This virus is one nasty bitch.

All the better reason to WEAR A FUCKING MASK!

And there’s is so much we don’t know yet

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2020 • 4:00:57am

re: #60 ericblair

The easiest way to frame all this, including the dynamics of evangelical churches, is in the context of an abusive relationship. Right now, the majority of America broke up with its abusive partner, and the abusive partner is going apeshit refusing to let this happen. And these people “reaching out” are trying to be just that much more understanding, that much more accommodating, to the abusive partner so maybe he won’t hurt them so much next time.

I’d go with that analogy, but tweak it a bit. The majority of the nation just chose, after 4 years of abuse, to leave their abuser and seek out someone better. In response, their abuser is losing his fucking mind in public and swearing he’s gonna get retribution on anybody who doesn’t help him get his victim back. So what’s this asshole doing? He’s trying to talk the victim to going back to the abuser because only then can they “heal” together.

You don’t fix an abusive relationship by forcing both parties to stay together, you start to fix it by acknowledging that the abuser has issues and that keeping that relationship together is not the answer.

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ericblair  Dec 6, 2020 • 4:05:15am

And just for future information, under Georgia law soliciting an impossible crime is still a crime. Makes sense, because a stupid crook is still a crook.

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2020 • 4:31:51am

After a reread, what see in Daniel’s bit about reaching out to Trump voters…is that he’s a chickenshit. If he wants to convince them that their common enemy is “the elite” and change minds, then the pastor he’s chosen to avoid is the very sort of person he should be trying to “reach out” to. Unless you have a very toxic family relationship, then reaching out to your parents is not that much of a challenge. If there’s one thing we’ve seen over and over again with conservatives, it’s when their family is involved, they’re willing to make exceptions to their “morals.”

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Ming5000  Dec 6, 2020 • 4:40:25am

re: #65 dangerman

This choked me up a little.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 6, 2020 • 4:47:31am

re: #53 Dread Pirate Ron

Khashoggi’s mutilated corpse says “hell no” to the prospect of Saudi Arabia becoming a tourist attraction. Shame on CNN. How many dissidents are in Saudi prisons? How many Yemeni children and women are dying because of the war Saudis are waging with Yemen? Please!

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jeffreyw  Dec 6, 2020 • 4:56:45am

watch dog

Good morning!

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2020 • 5:19:59am

re: #65 dangerman

One day in January 2021, an old man approached the White House from across Pennsylvania Avenue, where he’d been sitting on a park bench. He spoke to the U.S. Marine standing guard and said, “I would like to go in and meet with President Trump.” The Marine looked at the man and said, “Sir, Mr Trump is no longer President and no longer resides here.” The old man said, “Okay”, and walked away.

The following day, the same man approached the White House and said to the same Marine, “I would like to go in and meet with President Trump.” The Marine repeated, “Sir, as I told you yesterday, Mr Trump is no longer President and no longer resides here.” The man thanked him and, again, just walked away.

The third day, the old man approached the White House and spoke to the very same U.S. Marine, saying again, “I would like to go in and meet with President Trump.” The Marine looked at the man and said, “Sir, this is the third day in a row you’ve been here asking to speak to Trump. I’ve told you each time that he’s no longer the President and no longer resides here. Don’t you get it?”

The old man looked at the Marine and said, “Oh, I understand. I just love hearing it.”

The Marine snapped to attention and said, “See you tomorrow, Sir.”

Like the stories of people who got in line day after day to view Mao Zedong’s body, just to make sure he was still dead.

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2020 • 5:27:11am

re: #72 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

ok I’m watching dog. now what?

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steve_davis  Dec 6, 2020 • 5:28:03am

My piano teacher would have very much approved of the classical arm raises in the pauses! :-)

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jeffreyw  Dec 6, 2020 • 5:30:59am

re: #74 dangerman

ok I’m watching dog. now what?

Recite your general orders:

I will guard everything within the limits of my post and quit my post only when properly relieved. I will obey my special orders and perform all of my duties in a military manner. I will report violations of my special orders, emergencies, and anything not covered in my instructions to the commander of the relief.

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Florida Panhandler  Dec 6, 2020 • 5:35:37am

re: #60 ericblair

The easiest way to frame all this, including the dynamics of evangelical churches, is in the context of an abusive relationship. Right now, the majority of America broke up with its abusive partner, and the abusive partner is going apeshit refusing to let this happen. And these people “reaching out” are trying to be just that much more understanding, that much more accommodating, to the abusive partner so maybe he won’t hurt them so much next time.

The next stage will be the abusive partner coming back knocking on the door, down on hands and knees promising they will never do this again. They may even offer a relatively cheap gift of universal access to minimal health benefits or universal education /training for 21st Century jobs. But in the end, as told in the classic scorpion and wolf story, will turn on Democrats once again given the opportunity.

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steve_davis  Dec 6, 2020 • 5:41:42am

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(more)

The Coming Elector Intimidation Crisis (Goes to The Trumplandia Report, a blog post by Shelton Burngarner)

Biden has been elected and he’s been certified by the states. If any electors are killed by a Trump crazy, the blood in the streets will be Republican sycophants, and they damned well know it. 80 million people voted for Biden. We aren’t going to throw our hands up at the end of the day and say, “Well, Trump supporters are crazy. We concede.” We’ll fucking bury them alive if necessary.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 6, 2020 • 5:53:52am

O-o!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 6, 2020 • 5:58:05am

re: #65 dangerman

If I could give you more updings, I would. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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sagehen  Dec 6, 2020 • 6:04:08am

re: #72 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

Who’s he waiting for? Someone stuck in traffic, someone stuck in the hospital, a marine KIA? That dog is a country song.

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steve_davis  Dec 6, 2020 • 6:04:56am

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Huffington Post weighing in on normalising Trump voters.

This never goes the other way. Never.

Yes, I Will Be ‘Reaching Out’ To Trump Voters Now, And Again In 4 Years. Here’s Why.

Hey chowderhead, how about you reach out to people who are not engaged in politics instead, and get them engaged first? He writes as the opening: “If we don’t start discussing these things with each other, coming imperfectly from a place of love, we will never move forward.”

Conservatives and Christian churches don’t care about love unless it affects them personally. They care about power. Unless you can reach out to show them how to increase their power (which they would then crush you with because you’re a gay moonbat) they are not interested in your “reaching out from a place of love.”

Your former church would as soon stone you to death rather than engage you in love. It’s why such a large portion of LGBT people are atheists; the vast majority of churches don’t think you should be allowed to live, much less have rights. Your very existence is considered oppression by a majority of Christians.

(more)

They didn’t give a shit about your struggle then, and they don’t now. Come to atheism, we have cookies.

come to anglicanism. we not only have cookies, they’re unleavened and we serve them with real wine made by a particular group of monks who, based on the wine, have extremely good taste and probably spend Mondays dealing with splitting headaches.

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Teukka  Dec 6, 2020 • 6:08:12am

So this is making the rounds in my feeds. Memeified by me…

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jeffreyw  Dec 6, 2020 • 6:11:26am

re: #81 sagehen

Who’s he waiting for? Someone stuck in traffic, someone stuck in the hospital, a marine KIA? That dog is a country song.

He is tasked with keeping squirrels away from the feeders. He loves his job.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2020 • 6:12:13am
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dangerman  Dec 6, 2020 • 6:26:29am

re: #76 jeffreyw

Recite your general orders:

oh now I see
I thought you were telling me to watch dog

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jeffreyw  Dec 6, 2020 • 6:36:18am

re: #86 dangerman

oh now I see
I thought you were telling me to watch dog

Gabe is a multi-purpose dog. Versatile and patient, he excels at cleaning the woods of deer legs after the season closes.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 6, 2020 • 6:37:43am

re: #65 dangerman

Thanks for posting this. It made me smile.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 6, 2020 • 6:49:22am

re: #76 jeffreyw

I think there was grammer snark there; watch dog vs. watchdog.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 6:53:09am

Live stream in about 83 minutes. A rocket launch to start my Sunday morning. I can live with that.

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jeffreyw  Dec 6, 2020 • 6:54:37am

re: #89 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I think there was grammer snark there; watch dog vs. watchdog.

I am ignoring that lest I feel compelled to ask for a 500 word essay on the difference.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 6:55:20am

Sprinkled with a bit a sarcasm from the Chief.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 6, 2020 • 6:55:32am

Sums up Trump’s presidency.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:04:27am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:04:55am

re: #94 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:06:09am

re: #89 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I think there was grammer snark there; watch dog vs. watchdog.

+1

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mmmirele  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:07:56am

Going protesting. I found my phone had not charged overnight because the charger had come out of the electric socket. No matter, found my old (not used since I stopped going into the office) battery pack, plugged the phone in and started charging from there.

Today’s signs:

Today I directly call him out.

Translation: Pastor Eric Jones is a false prophet! Joe Biden is president-elect. There is no election fraud!

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makeitstop  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:10:32am

Not gonna lie, I am fiercely jealous.

Could be us, if stupid people didn’t insist on being fucking stupid.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:16:31am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:16:50am

As I went to the local grocery store and was coming back home, at the corner gas station they have “RECALL WHITMER” signs up - which means that at some point they’ll be doing door-to-door canvassing - they best don’t come our way.

LIuX9ifDJ1NFHmCFcIwFC0fqi2Muhp4CX4HHwjLP+RVLZDDQYHWKLE+AHhkSwXSkODFcCEr3O17IUUUIF7dVG3i+IObIUnnwixWE3PjyFcBv2jok9Wp8lg==

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:18:34am
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Belafon  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:18:42am

Thread:

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:24:05am

As a followup to the Dianne Warwick/Chance the Rapper interaction posted yesterday:

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Teukka  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:32:15am

re: #102 Belafon

Thread:

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I’m getting so fucking tired of Sweden and other European countries being used as scare examples re: socialized medicine.

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Renaissance_Man  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:33:32am

re: #98 makeitstop

Not gonna lie, I am fiercely jealous.

[Embedded content]

Could be us, if stupid people didn’t insist on being fucking stupid.

It is us, it’s just that some of the people die after. Which, apparently, we are fine with.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:39:13am

Hmmph.

Quick read on Facebook today and pretty much disappointed by people I knew in college.
Two examples:
1) Bunch of photos from a wedding reception held in western NJ (assumption based on who was attending). Held outdoors on a covered patio. But still from probably at least 40 attending I only saw evidence of three people wearing masks even part of the time.

2) Person in NC with photos attending bars. No masks.
(This is the same person who ranted about “tyranny” in relations to mask mandates and business shut-downs. They have also recently posted about “letting go” of grudges and hoping others would forgive theirs of him - with doubts since most of those people have blocked him.)

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Teukka  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:43:14am

Dogeh chart:

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:44:52am

re: #106 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Hmmph.

Quick read on Facebook today and pretty much disappointed by people I knew in college.
Two examples:
1) Bunch of photos from a wedding reception held in western NJ (assumption based on who was attending). Held outdoors on a covered patio. But still from probably at least 40 attending I only saw evidence of three people wearing masks even part of the time.

2) Person in NC with photos attending bars. No masks.
(This is the same person who ranted about “tyranny” in relations to mask mandates and business shut-downs. They have also recently posted about “letting go” of grudges and hoping others would forgive theirs of him - with doubts since most of those people have blocked him.)

Let me guess: Trump voter who wants people to forgive him after 4 years of making excuses.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:47:09am
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:49:05am

Time honored Family Tradition of eating Chinese food on Christmas Eve! I did not know Molly Yeh is Jewish.

Oh wait… she is Chinese.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:54:03am

re: #110 The Pie Overlord!

Oh wait… she is Chinese.

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I’m curious what you mean by this in regards to her being Jewish.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:58:05am

re: #108 Targetpractice

Let me guess: Trump voter who wants people to forgive him after 4 years of making excuses.

Pretty much. Did not like Trump at all, but voted for him since he wanted maximum conservative judges. I would actually peg him in the pseudo-libertarian apolitical world that is being inconvenienced triggers squawking about it and a certain degree of “fuck you, I got mine” and wanting to not be taxed at all. Plus he does a lot of “owning the libs” trolling and label-using.

There are behaviors beyond this including that I think there was a tough year in terms of relationships, dealing still with what looks like a fairly unfriendly divorce, and other factors. I think they are facing up (to a degree) with having an unhappy life for the past few years. This approach to things, unfortunately, does not make clear how much real introspection took place.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:58:05am

CRS-21 launch is now live streaming. T-18 minutes.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Dec 6, 2020 • 7:58:06am

re: #111 Belafon

I’m curious what you mean by this in regards to her being Jewish.

Eating Chinese food on Christmas has become a Jewish-American cultural tradition.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:00:26am

re: #111 Belafon

I’m curious what you mean by this in regards to her being Jewish.

It’s allegedly a “Jewish” tradition (from the 1990’s I guess) to eat Chinese food on Christmas Eve, because those are the only restaurants that are open.

It’s caught on, though. I used to make my own “Asian style” stir fry but now we have a kosher takeout place.

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calochortus  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:00:45am

re: #114 i(m)p(each)sos

Eating Chinese food on Christmas has become a Jewish-American cultural tradition.

Chinese restaurants are often open on Christmas Day, as are movie theaters, so if you aren’t celebrating Christmas, the two things offer an alternative to sitting home.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:01:47am

Good morning.

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Mattand  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:04:01am

re: #106 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Hmmph.

Quick read on Facebook today and pretty much disappointed by people I knew in college.
Two examples:
1) Bunch of photos from a wedding reception held in western NJ (assumption based on who was attending). Held outdoors on a covered patio. But still from probably at least 40 attending I only saw evidence of three people wearing masks even part of the time.

2) Person in NC with photos attending bars. No masks.
(This is the same person who ranted about “tyranny” in relations to mask mandates and business shut-downs. They have also recently posted about “letting go” of grudges and hoping others would forgive theirs of him - with doubts since most of those people have blocked him.)

Nice use of “western NJ”. I’ve essentially lived here most of my life. I wouldn’t be surprised that unless you’re a historian, most people here have no idea that’s a geographic designation. I’d argue it’s almost archaic at this point.

As for the subject at hand: anecdotal, but a few weeks ago, it seemed like people were getting lazy about mask wearing. Looks like there’s been an uptick in that.

However….

My boss’s sister has it, and her family is under quarantine, because they had to have Thanksgiving at their mother’s house.

And, of course, said sister is a nurse.

Speaking of siblings: my brother and sister-in-law, who had it a few months ago, had to celebrate her birthday last week by eating out. I’m trying not to be judgmental about this, but I’m like “Suck it up and get takeout, for fuck’s sake. No one in this house has eaten out at a restaurant or gone to the movies in months, and you don’t hear us whining about it.”

Not even going to get into my cousin who keeps having maskless parties, despite having a severely physically and developmental disabled kid. The cop biker rally she had at her house at the beginning of the pandemic was a nice touch.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:06:44am

Morning Lizardim.

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Mattand  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:06:44am

re: #116 calochortus

Chinese restaurants are often open on Christmas Day, as are movie theaters, so if you aren’t celebrating Christmas, the two things offer an alternative to sitting home.

The climax of the movie A Christmas Story famously involves this.

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Teukka  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:07:11am

re: #104 Teukka

I’m getting so fucking tired of Sweden and other European countries being used as scare examples re: socialized medicine.

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It’s really tiring to repeatedly have to explain things to people…

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makeitstop  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:09:26am

Sad Vanna, advocating further law-breaking…

Sure, he could threaten the budget of the secretary of state - if he was an amoral fuckhead like Trump.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:11:22am

Trump loses again!

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calochortus  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:12:55am

re: #122 makeitstop

Sad Vanna, advocating further law-breaking…

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Sure, he could threaten the budget of the secretary of state - if he was an amoral fuckhead like Trump.

I’m sure this has been noticed, but once Trump has vanquished the deep state and returns to the White House in triumph it will be Mike Pence breaking those ties, so who cares? Stay home, Georgia Republicans. Send a message.
//

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Mattand  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:15:37am

re: #121 Teukka

It’s really tiring to repeatedly have to explain things to people…

[Embedded content]

It’s an ongoing battle I have talking with people about this as well. I posted recently I got into it with a conservative-leaning ex-cop I know, who is terrified of “socialism“ taking over the country. She kept insisting that Canada has a “for-profit medical system“.

That is not a typo. I have a feeling she’s getting her news from Fox, as I’ve made a couple derogatory offhand comments about them. She does not seem to like it, but never pushes back.

My sister is another one. Not conservative in the least, but is one of those who hears shit like “Canada‘s system is no better than ours“ and runs with that because she can’t be bothered to actually look this shit up.

Part of the problem is one of her students is from Canada (she teaches high school history), and this girl allegedly keeps feeding her the story. I always counter with “It may not be perfect, but at least if you’re unemployed you’re not denied medical care, which is basically what happens here.“

Unsurprisingly, no one ever pushes back on that. I asked Electric Cyborg about this. He very thoroughly demolished that whole idiocy, and I made sure to favourite the comment.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:15:50am

re: #122 makeitstop

Sad Vanna, advocating further law-breaking…

[Embedded content]

Sure, he could threaten the budget of the secretary of state - if he was an amoral fuckhead like Trump.

Can’t wait to not watch her on Dancing with the Stars.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:16:09am

T-1 minute

spacex.com

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:16:46am

T-30

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:17:07am

T-10

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sagehen  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:17:21am

re: #115 The Pie Overlord!

It’s allegedly a “Jewish” tradition (from the 1990’s I guess) to eat Chinese food on Christmas Eve, because those are the only restaurants that are open.

It’s caught on, though. I used to make my own “Asian style” stir fry but now we have a kosher takeout place.

way further than that; it’s something my grandparents were doing in the 1920’s.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:17:22am

Ignition and lift off.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:17:42am

vroom, no boom.

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makeitstop  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:18:09am

re: #126 Barefoot Grin

Can’t wait to not watch her on Dancing with the Stars.

The next season of DWTS should be absolutely crawling with former staff members. After that, they get on a train to Has-beenville, and I’m good with that.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:18:43am

Max Q

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:18:52am

Keep these names on a list.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:19:54am

meco and stage separation.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:20:08am

SES

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Mattand  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:20:09am

re: #116 calochortus

Chinese restaurants are often open on Christmas Day, as are movie theaters, so if you aren’t celebrating Christmas, the two things offer an alternative to sitting home.

Almost forgot: we saw the Beavis and Butthead movie on Christmas Day when it came out way back when.

Because what better way is there to celebrate Jesus‘s birthday?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:20:32am

Landing grids deployed.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:21:56am

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

As a reminder, you should delete Fascistbook. “The only moral Facebook account is my Facebook account” is amazingly similar to the excuses for Thanksgiving dinners.

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You do drive a car, right? Despite cars killing tens of thousands of people a year? How is driving a car more moral than using Facebook?

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Teukka  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:23:13am

re: #125 Mattand

It’s an ongoing battle I have talking with people about this as well. I posted recently I got into it with a conservative-leaning ex-cop I know, who is terrified of “socialism“ taking over the country. She kept insisting that Canada has a “for-profit medical system“.

That is not a typo. I have a feeling she’s getting her news from Fox, as I’ve made a couple derogatory offhand comments about them. She does not seem to like it, but never pushes back.

My sister is another one. Not conservative in the least, but is one of those who hears shit like “Canada‘s system is no better than ours“ and runs with that because she can’t be bothered to actually look this shit up.

Part of the problem is one of her students is from Canada (she teaches high school history), and this girl allegedly keeps feeding her the story. I always counter with “It may not be perfect, but at least if you’re unemployed you’re not denied medical care, which is basically what happens here.“

Unsurprisingly, no one ever pushes back on that. I asked Electric Cyborg about this. He very thoroughly demolished that whole idiocy, and I made sure to favourite the comment.

It may be that either she or someone at the conservative think-tank or Faux Noise misunderstands (intentionally or unintentionally) that there are private clinics, hospitals etc. which provide (read: sell) services to the counties or states/provinces.
Like, last time I had to be hospitalized, I went to a private hospital. Paid the same fees as I would’ve for a county-run establishment.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:23:51am

Reentry burn.

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Mattand  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:24:18am

re: #140 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

You do drive a car, right? Despite cars killing tens of thousands of people a year? How is driving a car more moral than using Facebook?

In Anymouse’s defense, most auto makers didn’t basically subvert the 2016 election.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:24:21am

reentry burn complete

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:25:09am

re: #118 Mattand

I chose “western NJ” since I wasn’t sure where the reception was, but assumed it was in the general vicinity of Burlington or Florence; e.g. along the Delaware River and far enough north of Philadelphia to be in the central part of the state. “Western seemed to make sense since that’s where in the state it is.

(Can’t say I knew the archaic meaning. I’m technically a native of the state from being born in the northern part way back when. But my family moved from there before I was more than a year old.)

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:25:35am

Landing burn and SECO.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:26:05am

Stuck it again

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:26:19am

What GOP believes (at 2:07):

Stairway to Cleveland - Jefferson Starship Live

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Mattand  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:26:34am

re: #141 Teukka

It may be that either she or someone at the conservative think-tank or Faux Noise misunderstands (intentionally or unintentionally) that there are private clinics, hospitals etc. which provide (read: sell) services to the counties or states/provinces.
Like, last time I had to be hospitalized, I went to a private hospital. Paid the same fees as I would’ve for a county-run establishment.

I chalk it up to the whole “America is perfect“ bullshit we are fed since the moment we hit kindergarten. Earlier, depending on your family, I guess.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:26:41am

re: #140 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

You do drive a car, right? Despite cars killing tens of thousands of people a year? How is driving a car more moral than using Facebook?

We’ve gone round and round about this. The short version: Facebook is refusing to be socially responsible and help manage the pandemic, allowing people to easily spread lies via their platform. They’re passively contributing to the genocide of America. Auto manufacturers at least take responsibility for their failures.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:27:04am

Stable orbit confirmed.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:29:16am

Capsule separation.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:29:47am

re: #150 thedopefishlives

We’ve gone round and round about this. The short version: Facebook is refusing to be socially responsible and help manage the pandemic, allowing people to easily spread lies via their platform. They’re passively contributing to the genocide of America. Auto manufacturers at least take responsibility for their failures.

Especially once they got sued to pieces a few times* and decided that designing and adding safety features was a selling point as well as a long-term better policy.

* - Sued, or I expect threatened with legislation if they did not do something. Transportation network development in the United States is very closely tied to legislation or regulations favoring said development. Applies to canals, railroads, and then highways and automobiles.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:30:38am

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

As best as I can tell (I presume English is not the poster’s first language), they are repeating every Republican lie about Democrats they can pack into one tweet:

- Democrats are Socialists (with the thought-stopper that socialism in inherently bad)
- Democrats want to install “socialist liberalism” in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (the implication is both liberalism and socialism are inherently bad)
- Socialists (the stand-in for Democrats) are Satanists.
- Satanists (standing in for Democrats) want democracy in Saudi Arabia, and democracy is inherently bad.

Why don’t you just assume that when the tweeter says “democracy” the tweeter means democracy? Saudi Arabia is an absolute monarchy right now.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:31:18am

re: #125 Mattand

It’s an ongoing battle I have talking with people about this as well. I posted recently I got into it with a conservative-leaning ex-cop I know, who is terrified of “socialism“ taking over the country. She kept insisting that Canada has a “for-profit medical system“.

That is not a typo. I have a feeling she’s getting her news from Fox, as I’ve made a couple derogatory offhand comments about them. She does not seem to like it, but never pushes back.

My sister is another one. Not conservative in the least, but is one of those who hears shit like “Canada‘s system is no better than ours“ and runs with that because she can’t be bothered to actually look this shit up.

Part of the problem is one of her students is from Canada (she teaches high school history), and this girl allegedly keeps feeding her the story. I always counter with “It may not be perfect, but at least if you’re unemployed you’re not denied medical care, which is basically what happens here.“

Unsurprisingly, no one ever pushes back on that. I asked Electric Cyborg about this. He very thoroughly demolished that whole idiocy, and I made sure to favourite the comment.

The biggest problem in Canada is delivery. Many doctors don’t want to live in the boonies where it averages -40 every winter. That’s a delivery problem. The system works on a triage basis (go to the ER, the sickest people are seen first, even the ones that just came in as you’ve waited for an hour).

Cancer doesn’t mean bankruptcy. Back or neck surgery doesn’t result in bankruptcy. ER visits are fully covered.

America’s willingness to be stupid and mislead is sad and depressing.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:32:15am

So got around to watching Episode 6 of Season 2 of The Mandalorian.

Best episode yet. Good choice to have Robert Rodriguez as director for this episode. Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni have pretty much saved the Star Wars franchise.

That is all.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:32:22am

Live stream now over

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thedopefishlives  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:33:16am

re: #156 Dr Lizardo

So got around to watching Episode 6 of Season 2 of The Mandalorian.

Best episode yet. Good choice to have Robert Rodriguez as director for this episode. Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni have pretty much saved the Star Wars franchise.

That is all.

They’ve been absolutely crushing it. I was absolutely fanboying the last couple of episodes, having watched The Clone Wars animated series.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:33:53am
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gwangung  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:33:55am

re: #156 Dr Lizardo

So got around to watching Episode 6 of Season 2 of The Mandalorian.

Best episode yet. Good choice to have Robert Rodriguez as director for this episode. Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni have pretty much saved the Star Wars franchise.

That is all.

No, that is the Way.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:35:05am

re: #158 thedopefishlives

They’ve been absolutely crushing it. I was absolutely fanboying the last couple of episodes, having watched The Clone Wars animated series.

Oh, yeah, same here. This most recent episode? Nerdgasm.

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Florida Panhandler  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:35:35am

re: #135 jaunte

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Keep these names on a list.

This attempted coup against the people of the US and The Constitution must have severe consequences if this nation is to survive.

Sedition is a 20 year sentence. Traitorous action against the US still carries the Death Penalty. Lucky for them, I am against the death penalty. Unlucky for them, I personally don’t make these sentence decisions.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:35:41am

re: #140 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

You do drive a car, right? Despite cars killing tens of thousands of people a year? How is driving a car more moral than using Facebook?

Cars are recalled when they fail.

Cars don’t lie to you that they’re fine when they blow up (auto execs do).

Cars don’t support fascism for profit.

Cars don’t fuck with democracy globally.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:35:44am

Los Angeles County Coronavirus Update: Public Health Officials Report Almost 9,000 New Cases As SoCal ICU Capacity Dips Under 15%

Republicans, anti-vaxxers, proud MAGA hat types are fully responsible for this.

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mmmirele  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:36:17am

Inner sweary me came out to play today when I dropped a few f-bombs when telling the righteous (in response to questions) that their pastor was a false prophet and they were lying about election fraud. One of them, ex-military couple, got all righteous and the husband called me a pedophile for dropping some f-bombs while a child MIGHT have been within earshot. I proceeded to drop a whole raft of f-bombs to tell this asshat that I’d been sexually assaulted as a child and he was. NOT going to call me a pedophile! Hence, the signs for second service.

I’m really not very nice at all.
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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:36:59am

re: #72 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

The heaviest holiday decorations stay around longest.
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thedopefishlives  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:37:20am

re: #161 Dr Lizardo

Oh, yeah, same here. This most recent episode? Nerdgasm.

I had to explain a few things to Mrs. Fish, who is relatively new to the Star Wars universe. Myself, I jumped off my couch.

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gwangung  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:38:04am

re: #165 mmmirele

All the right wing pastors who grasp for temporal power make me sick. All ego, no Jesus.

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gwangung  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:39:21am

re: #167 thedopefishlives

I had to explain a few things to Mrs. Fish, who is relatively new to the Star Wars universe. Myself, I jumped off my couch.

Yah. Never watched the cartoons, but I got most of it.

But Bobba Fett? Yeah, that worked for me without any explanation.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:39:52am

re: #167 thedopefishlives

How are you guys feeling?

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thedopefishlives  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:40:32am

re: #170 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

How are you guys feeling?

I’m doing a little bit better today. I got a solid night’s sleep for once, and woke up with a decent amount of energy.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:41:22am

re: #167 thedopefishlives

I had to explain a few things to Mrs. Fish, who is relatively new to the Star Wars universe. Myself, I jumped off my couch.

That scene toward the beginning of the episode (and other Lizards, don’t read if you don’t want to spoil it)

Click to Reveal

where Slave I came cruising in over Tython had me cheering - as did the rest of the episode. We finally got to see Boba Fett in all his badassery.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:48:39am

re: #125 Mattand

It’s an ongoing battle I have talking with people about this as well. I posted recently I got into it with a conservative-leaning ex-cop I know, who is terrified of “socialism“ taking over the country. She kept insisting that Canada has a “for-profit medical system“.

That is not a typo. I have a feeling she’s getting her news from Fox, as I’ve made a couple derogatory offhand comments about them. She does not seem to like it, but never pushes back.

My sister is another one. Not conservative in the least, but is one of those who hears shit like “Canada‘s system is no better than ours“ and runs with that because she can’t be bothered to actually look this shit up.

Part of the problem is one of her students is from Canada (she teaches high school history), and this girl allegedly keeps feeding her the story. I always counter with “It may not be perfect, but at least if you’re unemployed you’re not denied medical care, which is basically what happens here.“

Unsurprisingly, no one ever pushes back on that. I asked Electric Cyborg about this. He very thoroughly demolished that whole idiocy, and I made sure to favourite the comment.

Yeah well. 2 years ago when Zedie was hospitalized in Toronto, we were on the hook for the entire ride because we are not Canadian citizens or permanent residents. We ended up paying $20K which came out to be around $15K in U.S. currency. The same treatment in the U.S. would have cost our insurance carrier more than $100K.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:51:07am

re: #162 Florida Panhandler

Unfortunately, the chances that anything will happen to them is little to none. We just have to be happy that they’re too dumb to really pull off a coup.

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2020 Blue Wisconsin  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:51:35am

As the holiday season kicks into high gear and the Year That Shall Not Be Named finally head towards it’s long overdue exit, a small bit of joy and happiness to share.

Just hearing this song puts a happy little smile on my face.

YouTube

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:53:43am

From my FB.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:54:03am
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PhillyPretzel  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:56:04am

Well I did my laundry, hard boiled a dozen eggs, changed the battery in my Ring doorbell and all before noon. That means most of the afternoon belongs to me with nothing but relaxing.

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coin operated  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:56:55am

re: #173 The Pie Overlord!

Yeah well. 2 years ago when Zedie was hospitalized in Toronto, we were on the hook for the entire ride because we are not Canadian citizens or permanent residents. We ended up paying $20K which came out to be around $15K in U.S. currency. The same treatment in the U.S. would have cost our insurance carrier more than $100K.

Similar story. Blew up my knee skiing in Banff a couple decades ago. ER, x-ray, meds, and a knee brace cost around $500. Paid by credit card before being wheeled out of the hospital into a waiting cab. I remember thinking how much that visit would have cost in the US…even with insurance the co-pays would have been far more expensive.

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calochortus  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:57:27am

re: #125 Mattand

Just anecdotal, of course, but when I had my knee replacement over a decade ago, a woman I knew from an online group had one about a day after mine. I’m in Calif. and have Kaiser (so not the full American Health Care Experience) and she was in Whitehorse, Yukon Terr. Obviously she had to fit her surgery into the traveling orthopedic surgeon’s schedule (which meant quarterly,) but then I waited only a slightly shorter time for mine because scheduling is a thing here too.
Other than that, our experiences were remarkably similar, except for the fact she paid her insurance premiums through taxes and I paid my larger amount out of my bank account.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:58:15am

re: #161 Dr Lizardo

Oh, yeah, same here. This most recent episode? Nerdgasm.

Yasssss. I went nuts the moment I saw that one famous ship flying through the sky.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:58:27am

re: #172 Dr Lizardo

That scene toward the beginning of the episode (and other Lizards, don’t read if you don’t want to spoil it)

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Teukka  Dec 6, 2020 • 8:58:38am
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jaunte  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:01:19am

re: #183 Teukka

We need a vaccine for adult onset oppositional defiant disorder.

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calochortus  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:02:54am

re: #178 PhillyPretzel

Well I did my laundry, hard boiled a dozen eggs, changed the battery in my Ring doorbell and all before noon. That means most of the afternoon belongs to me with nothing but relaxing.

Good for you. I probably definitely need to get started on stuff myself.
Among other things, I put out a few holiday lights yesterday and then when I turned them on I realized that the path lights (on a photo cell timer) were never going to come on with the other lights shining on the sensor. Oops. So I either need an override switch, or a small piece of electrical tape.

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Mattand  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:03:06am

re: #145 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I chose “western NJ” since I wasn’t sure where the reception was, but assumed it was in the general vicinity of Burlington or Florence; e.g. along the Delaware River and far enough north of Philadelphia to be in the central part of the state. “Western seemed to make sense since that’s where in the state it is.

(Can’t say I knew the archaic meaning. I’m technically a native of the state from being born in the northern part way back when. But my family moved from there before I was more than a year old.)

Burlington and Florence are solidly South Jersey. Anything in Burlington County is. The county itself, like some of the others around here, runs NW to SE.

Not certain, but I think Burlington County’s north/east border is where the east/wast Jersey division comes from.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:03:58am

re: #178 PhillyPretzel

Well I did my laundry, hard boiled a dozen eggs, changed the battery in my Ring doorbell and all before noon. That means most of the afternoon belongs to me with nothing but relaxing.

I cooked scrambled eggs and put bacon in the oven, then cleaned up everything. That took pretty much all of the energy I woke up with, so now I am going to be a lazypants and drink lots of water and binge-watch Animaniacs with the beautiful Mrs. Fish.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:05:28am

re: #154 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

Why don’t you just assume that when the tweeter says “democracy” the tweeter means democracy? Saudi Arabia is an absolute monarchy right now.

Because the tweet directly conflates Satanism with liberal policies.

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Nojay UK  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:07:51am

re: #104 Teukka

Prescriptions in Scotland are no charge for everyone, paid for by the Government who are here to help me.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:09:10am

re: #182 thedopefishlives

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Mattand  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:11:17am

Thanks for all of the Canadian health care experiences everyone posted. All have been favorited.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:11:26am

re: #184 jaunte

We need a vaccine for adult onset oppositional defiant disorder.

Essentially an anti-GOP vaccine.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:11:30am

re: #184 jaunte

We need a vaccine for adult onset oppositional defiant disorder.

Oppositional Defiantism is really one of the defining things of America.

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:11:40am

re: #177 jaunte

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For 4 years, the message that Mike and MAGAts conveyed if ever anybody expressed disbelief or skepticism about the 2016 election was not “You’re right, we need to investigate this so all Americans feel confident about their elections.” It was “Stop crying, you baby! You lost, get over it!”

So if he cannot go forward into the next 4 years without this election being investigated to his satisfaction, then he can feel to free to kiss the whitest part of my ass as I tell him “Stop crying, you baby! You lost, get over it!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:12:23am

re: #140 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

You do drive a car, right? Despite cars killing tens of thousands of people a year? How is driving a car more moral than using Facebook?

Okay I’ll take this one.

The easy one: My car doesn’t promote genocide. Facebook ignores it.

More generally: I have a car because there are no other transportation methods here aside from a horse, and because I live in town, I can’t keep livestock. That goes back to the cartoon with the peasant carrying a bundle of sticks saying “we should improve society somewhat” and the response being “yet you live in society, curious.”

Also, over the years, engineers have made improvements to car safety. Legislators have demanded the same. Because of that, deaths have dramatically dropped since the car became the principal mode of transport in the USA.

Also, despite the protestations of people claiming they need Facebook to keep in touch with family or organise things, those are absolutely not true. There are telephones, mail, text messages for those who have cell service, and E-mail for those who have Internet.

Facebook is absolutely a convenience; since it is damn near impossible to ban folks who explicitly espouse an ideology of genocide like Nazism, I find the excuses offered as to why someone “needs” Fascistbook about as week as those who take the position (but don’t say) “The only moral Thanksgiving dinner is my Thanksgiving dinner.”

Compare that to something someone doesn’t consider essential, the entirety of which Faceborg has used marketing (propaganda) to convince people it is; a subscription to The Atlantic. When The Atlantic considered hiring Kevin Williamson, the libertarian who thinks women who had abortions should be hung from lampposts, the outcry from their subscribers was swift with cancelling subscriptions.

Libertarians and Republicans howled about Freeze Peach of course, yet the cancellations continued and Williamson was gone in a week.

Facebook is only a communications tool, but it is a communications tool which in the hands of its masters was used to promote a literal genocide in Burma. At some point the excuses given by them of “we’ll do better” seem to wear a bit thin, because they don’t want to do better, they want to convince people they are an essential service so they can make more money.

What Facebook doesn’t understand about the Facebook walkout (The Verge)

The company is treating a moral issue as if it’s a legal one (June 1, 2020)

Their own employees started walking out of the company because of a threat of violence by Donald Trump after the company’s response. If their own employees, who depend on Faceplant to feed themselves decide the company is immoral, the arguments of “I need it to send a photo to my grandmother” seem pretty weak to me.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:14:53am

re: #188 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Because the tweet directly conflates Satanism with liberal policies.

“Socialist Islam” equals liberalism?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:16:33am

re: #186 Mattand

Burlington and Florence are solidly South Jersey. Anything in Burlington County is. The county itself, like some of the others around here, runs NW to SE.

Not certain, but I think Burlington County’s north/east border is where the east/wast Jersey division comes from.

My pet division of NJ is north-south roughly where I-195 runs east-west. North is the part of the state dominated by NYC and south of that the part dominated by Philadelphia.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:18:31am

re: #196 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

“Socialist Islam” equals liberalism?

Words don’t have meanings except to stop thoughts.

All are created equal and are interchangeable: Democrat, liberal, socialist, atheist, &c.

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retired cynic  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:19:47am

re: #187 thedopefishlives

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thedopefishlives  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:20:38am

re: #199 retired cynic

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retired cynic  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:20:58am
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calochortus  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:21:17am

re: #185 calochortus

Good for you. I probably definitely need to get started on stuff myself.
Among other things, I put out a few holiday lights yesterday and then when I turned them on I realized that the path lights (on a photo cell timer) were never going to come on with the other lights shining on the sensor. Oops. So I either need an override switch, or a small piece of electrical tape.

Yay! There is a switch to override the photocell. That problem: Solved.
Now on to other exciting household tasks.
BBL

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:22:00am

re: #198 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Words don’t have meanings except to stop thoughts.

All are created equal and are interchangeable: Democrat, liberal, socialist, atheist, &c.

Concur that once I see a word salad like that I know I am not dealing with someone I can expect an honest exchange with. Could be due to ignorance. Could be due to someone who is simply going to lie.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:22:02am

re: #196 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

“Socialist Islam” equals liberalism?

Yes, if you go alllllll the way back in the thread, you can see that the tweeter is is decrying any form of liberalism. Specifically, liberal SA, which someone states looks like Iran when it was liberal. .

Direct link : re: #53 Dread Pirate Ron

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calochortus  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:22:15am

re: #200 thedopefishlives

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:23:46am

re: #154 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

Why don’t you just assume that when the tweeter says “democracy” the tweeter means democracy? Saudi Arabia is an absolute monarchy right now.

Because the tweeter used @DNC in the tweet.

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Mattand  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:26:28am

re: #197 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

My pet division of NJ is north-south roughly where I-195 runs east-west. North is the part of the state dominated by NYC and south of that the part dominated by Philadelphia.

Yeah, that’s one of the most common ones. I use 195/Trenton as the southern border of where Central Jersey starts, with the northern border being around Staten Island or New Brunswick.

The existence of Central Jersey at all is a subject of much debate. I view it as a Brigadoon-esque land where a person eats a hero sandwich rather than a hoagie, yet still roots for the Eagles.

It’s all very confusing.

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Mattand  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:26:55am

re: #201 retired cynic

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Dibs on your toilet paper.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:27:42am

re: #82 steve_davis

come to anglicanism. we not only have cookies, they’re unleavened and we serve them with real wine made by a particular group of monks who, based on the wine, have extremely good taste and probably spend Mondays dealing with splitting headaches.

No thanks. I saw how they turned my home town of Ambridge into a hard core Republican stronghold.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:29:29am

re: #122 makeitstop

Sad Vanna, advocating further law-breaking…

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Sure, he could threaten the budget of the secretary of state - if he was an amoral fuckhead like Trump.

But that describes Kemp to a tee. The only reason Kemp has not done this yet is a concern that there may be some ugly repercussions that would affect him personally..

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:29:30am

re: #207 Mattand

Yeah, that’s one of the most common ones. I use 195/Trenton as the southern border of where Central Jersey starts, with the northern border being around Staten Island or New Brunswick.

The existence of Central Jersey at all is a subject of much debate. I view it as a Brigadoon-esque land where a person eats a hero sandwich rather than a hoagie, yet still roots for the Eagles.

It’s all very confusing.

So its real character appears for a few days every 20 years?

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:32:07am

Well, I’ve been hearing about all these antivaxers declaring that they won’t be taking no covid vaccines and wondering what insurance companies will have to say about covering such people.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:33:51am

re: #212 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

Well, I’ve been hearing about all these antivaxers declaring that they won’t be taking no covid vaccines and wondering what insurance companies will have to say about covering such people.

I expect yelling and screaming and then acceptance once schools and employers start requiring vaccination. And I doubt the courts will agree with them.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:36:15am

re: #212 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

Those silly (I could call them something else) are going to find themselves between a rock and a hard place. Joe will not tolerate their ignorance about disease and their idiotic views of Bill Gates and implanting 5G into everyone.

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William Lewis  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:37:38am

re: #102 Belafon

Thread:

Insurance companies are evil. It’s that simple; profit vs health must end.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:39:09am

re: #200 thedopefishlives

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:39:20am

re: #215 William Lewis

Insurance companies are evil. It’s that simple; profit vs health must end.

Unfortunately the GOP never let it will and they’ve gerrymandered the fuck out of enough states that we probably won’t see meaningful change anytime soon.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:39:41am
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Renaissance_Man  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:40:46am

re: #215 William Lewis

Insurance companies are evil. It’s that simple; profit vs health must end.

This is true. The single biggest impediment in my delivery of care to any patient is insurance. Not just lack of insurance, but insurance refusing to pay for even the most basic or common sense treatments, even those that are well within accepted standards of care. The entire concept of for-profit insurance creates an impossible situation, where an insurance company is beholden to two competing drives - pay money to help the customer, or don’t pay money to help the shareholders. It’s obvious who usually wins.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:40:52am

re: #204 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Yes, if you go alllllll the way back in the thread, you can see that the tweeter is is decrying any form of liberalism. Specifically, liberal SA, which someone states looks like Iran when it was liberal. .

Direct link :

I responds to what I sees posted here.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:44:49am

re: #219 Renaissance_Man

This is true. The single biggest impediment in my delivery of care to any patient is insurance. Not just lack of insurance, but insurance refusing to pay for even the most basic or common sense treatments, even those that are well within accepted standards of care. The entire concept of for-profit insurance creates an impossible situation, where an insurance company is beholden to two competing drives - pay money to help the customer, or don’t pay money to help the shareholders. It’s obvious who usually wins.

Before I married my wife, she needed an emergency gall bladder surgery.

She was rushed to the hospital, where the folks had to tell her while she was in extreme pain that her insurance had denied payment for the surgery, claiming it was “elective” and not necessary.

She got the doctor to put her on the telephone with the insurance adjuster and asked where that person got their medical degree. When told they didn’t have one, she noted Colorado is a death-penalty state and her (ex-) husband is a vindictive bastard.

Surgery approved.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:48:17am

re: #200 thedopefishlives

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:48:51am

re: #213 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I expect yelling and screaming and then acceptance once schools and employers start requiring vaccination. And I doubt the courts will agree with them.

At least in the case of schools, I don’t imagine that the situation is going to be much different than it is now: Wingnut governors/legislatures will find ways to bar schools and businesses from requiring vaccinations or (failing that) granting various “exceptions” that wingnuts voters will quickly exploit to avoid being vaccinated.

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LadyBehir  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:50:24am

In today’s news, our son in law tested positive. And my beloved idiot husband is still saying it’s just a flu.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:51:08am

re: #224 LadyBehir

In today’s news, our son in law tested positive. And my beloved idiot husband is still saying it’s just a flu.

It ain’t a flu. Not gonna lie, this suuuuucks. I had a friend who said, “Part of me wants to just get it and get it overwith.” I was like, “No, you DO NOT want this.”

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:51:45am

re: #224 LadyBehir

I hope and pray that your son-in-law has a mild case and has no lingering effects.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:52:13am

I worry Trumpland is going to put a bunch of people in key positions so said people can sabotage the Biden Admin.

I hope Joe’s team is prepared for anything.

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:52:21am

You can already hear the wingnut excuse: “It’s no different than the flu! And the law don’t say I gotta get a flu vaccine, so why do I gotta get one for this?! I HAVE MY RIGHTS!!!”

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Florida Panhandler  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:55:50am

re: #221 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My experience with health care? 2 months ago my normally healthy wife had an emergency situation where she had to go to the Emergency Room and they had her stay overnight in a hospital bed to monitor and to stabilize.

They told her she might have to have an emergency surgery if the situation would not show signs of diminishing. But in the end, no procedures, no surgery and she was released noon that day.

The Bill is $12,000. That’s one hell of a rent for one night’s sleep.

Right now we are in battle with the insurance company and the hospital. We still have to see what happens but I just wanted to let foreigners outside the USA know what our healthcare is like in real world situations and not on Fox News or out of the mouths of Republican politicians. No one in the world wants this kind of health care. Why do we tolerate it?

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 6, 2020 • 9:56:26am

re: #183 Teukka

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So Candace “I Love Hitler” Owens won’t take the vaccine.

Fine with me. When she gets sick deny her health care.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:00:12am

re: #223 Targetpractice

At least in the case of schools, I don’t imagine that the situation is going to be much different than it is now: Wingnut governors/legislatures will find ways to bar schools and businesses from requiring vaccinations or (failing that) granting various “exceptions” that wingnuts voters will quickly exploit to avoid being vaccinated.

And I expect that at that point the insurers might do the calculations and decide that there needs to be coverage dropped or a massive increase in premiums.

(Aside: From my time working at the national level with my fraternity there was a really massive issue with finding and getting liability insurance for chapters. Eventually a couple of independent organizations came together that would facilitate policies via Lloyds of London. Getting and keeping policies that were affordable involved quite a bit of additional regulation on chapters and what activities they could hold.*

At the same time sororities generally could get liability coverage much more cheaply since their general practices were “safer” than what the fraternities did. All that suddenly went by the wayside when a sorority got hit by a $6 million judgement. Essentially cost more than the collective premiums of all the sororities over the previous decade. And overnight their premiums massively increased.)

* - Tons and tons of oppositional defiantism took place here.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:01:33am

Citizen app on my phone triggered an alert that anti-maskers are once again rioting outside of LA Mayor Garcetti’s residence and the police are calling for reinforcements…

And you can count on the LAPD handling these anti-maskers with kid gloves…UNLIKE THE WAY THEY WHIP OUT THE CLUBS WHEN BLM PROTESTS!!!!!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:10:27am

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:11:05am

re: #229 Florida Panhandler

The Bill is $12,000. That’s one hell of a rent for one night’s sleep.

Try this on for size: within the last 12 months both my mother and I called for ambulance services to the same hospital. My mother is on Medicare, My insurance is self-funded via my employer.

Her bill was $400, mine was $1,200. Thankfully, my employer-sponsored plan subscribes to a service which is used to get money back for egregious billing (like my ambulance ride) so it got knocked down - but it was still more than what my mother paid via Medicare.

In rural areas, you really don’t have a choice when it comes to medical emergencies, and to make things worse, many ER docs are now owned by private equity.

When I had my cataract surgeries done, I had not realized that the anesthetist belonged to the only practice in town, and the entire practice was out-of-network. And lord help me if I need any kind of joint replacement, as I am forced to go to “centers of excellence” as defined by the health-plan administration - which means anywhere from a 2 to 4 hour drive to the nearest center.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:12:54am

re: #230 🌹UOJB!

So Candace “I Love Hitler” Owens won’t take the vaccine.

Fine with me. When she gets sick deny her health care.

Candace Owens is African-American. Could Candace possibly be disguising a fear due to historical black experience by pretending her stance has to do with FREEDUMB, instead of a skepticism due to past mistreatment of her real community by the medical profession? Yeah — I know — trying to give her credit for decency when none is due.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:14:51am

re: #234 Eric The Fruit Bat

I had a similar thing with the anesthesiologist when I had my spinal surgery. The hospital basically told me, “You need to call your insurance company and tell them you need out-of-network reimbursement because of a lack of alternative providers.” In my head I’m thinking, “Okay, and why does this have to be MY problem? If you want the money, YOU can make that phone call.”

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:22:56am

re: #234 Eric The Fruit Bat

Memories of when I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis in 1997 and SCREW CROSS refused to cover the IVs I needed.

I appealed the decision and the Corporate Beancounter Who Can Ration Care said all I needed was Tylenol.

Each IV cost—$750-800.

Once I had a collection of 500 rare books about chess. Had to liquidate the collection thru Thinkers Press in Iowa. That paid for a chunk of the IVs. The rest went on my Master Card until I was able to switch to Kaiser that DID cover the IVs for a $50 copay. But I had to wait 10 months until Open Season let me move to Kaiser.

Yet my family endlessly lies about people in Canada waiting years to get the surgery they need. Sister endlessly brings up tales of people with brain tumors dying in Canada because they have to wait over a year…

…and she is on oxygen, suffers from antibiotic-resistant tuberculosis…”Blue Shield always pays my care, I don’t know why they didn’t pay yours”

And then we come to discover that California SCREW CROSS gives incentive payments to examiners who deny claims. They don’t stop there, they also give prizes to the examiners who deny the most claims and save the company the most money. Such lucky folks get to go to Club Med for 2 weeks, get cruises, and the #1 denier gets 2 weeks in Paris all expenses paid…

Fuck these CEO pimps and the corporate beancounters.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:24:13am

Argh.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:25:28am

re: #238 Charles Johnson

Argh.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:25:58am

re: #236 thedopefishlives

And what is probably just as bad, chances are your actual anesthesiology was done by a Anesthetist PA rather than the doctor himself - and is probably running around between multiple surgical suites to make sure that everything is OK.

That’s how ‘balance billing’ got into the vernacular of medical care: the providers set the rate and whatever insurance doesn’t cover you are on the hook for the outstanding.

Next time I get into such a situation I’ll break out a 3x0 drafting pen and write: “Any outstanding balance will be the responsibility of the providers.”

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:29:37am

UPDATE

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:30:31am

re: #241 🌹UOJB!

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thedopefishlives  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:30:33am

re: #241 🌹UOJB!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:32:28am

re: #220 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

Fair enough.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:36:13am

re: #241 🌹UOJB!

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:36:21am

re: #241 🌹UOJB!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:41:28am

re: #241 🌹UOJB!

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mmmirele  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:47:13am

re: #201 retired cynic

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I think I shocked the churchy people with my “I am not a nice person” sign. I also asked them not to pray for me, because I wasn’t interested in their performative piety. I had a long conversation with a young woman who…has completely drunk the Flavor-Aid. She told me she received duplicate ballots in Flagstaff and I called her a liar (hey, not mincing words here, not coddling people). She gave that old canard about black on black violence and I called her out on that. Oh and she talked about why she voted for Trump: “improved economy.” I laughed at her. I told her that was garbage when there are millions of people unemployed because of COVID-19 and Trump’s inaction.

I am through coddling Trumpists (except for my brother, I just don’t discuss it). I told this woman that as long as Eric Jones continues to go on about election fraud, I’d be out there on the sidewalk. Oh yeah, and I explained *several* times that there has never been any proof of fraud pleaded in federal court, because the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure rule 9(b) require fraud pleadings to be made with specificity. Which has not happened, obviously.

Oh yeah, these people practice CRAP mask discipline. No masks outside, no masks inside. Seriously, if you can’t practice mask discipline, I sure as hell ain’t entering the First Church of COVID-19.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:49:02am

A proposal to end socialism in the US, such as ending farm subsidies, publicly owned utilities, and only sending to states 1.5 times what they pay to the government:

m.dailykos.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:51:23am

re: #248 mmmirele

I think I shocked the churchy people with my “I am not a nice person” sign. I also asked them not to pray for me, because I wasn’t interested in their performative piety. I had a long conversation with a young woman who…has completely drunk the Flavor-Aid. She told me she received duplicate ballots in Flagstaff and I called her a liar (hey, not mincing words here, not coddling people). She gave that old canard about black on black violence and I called her out on that. Oh and she talked about why she voted for Trump: “improved economy.” I laughed at her. I told her that was garbage when there are millions of people unemployed because of COVID-19 and Trump’s inaction.
…..

One thing that may be worth telling those arguing this is that it doesn’t matter how many ballots you receive, you can only vote once. They do not allow ballots to be cast twice from the same person.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:51:36am

re: #248 mmmirele

As you may remember, it was a church Thanksgiving gathering - which I didn’t know my sister was going to attend, my parents told us about it after we had already arrived - where I suspect our current affliction came from. They care more for their own personal trappings and comfort than about actual people.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:52:20am

re: #163 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Cars are recalled when they fail.

Cars don’t lie to you that they’re fine when they blow up (auto execs do).

Cars don’t support fascism for profit.

Cars don’t fuck with democracy globally.

How much do cars contribute to global warming and climate change in their manufacture and use?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:53:59am

re: #252 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

How much do cars contribute to global warming and climate change in their manufacture and use?

You’re bordering on the absurd.

We started with Facebook=cars and those goalposts have been moved to another country.

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retired cynic  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:55:08am

Jennifer Rubin:

Republicans’ political fortunes have fared no better. They began 2017 with the White House and majorities in both houses of Congress; they leave with only the possibility of a narrow majority in the Senate. Their base is more crazed and alienated than ever before. To the very end, most Republican members of Congress adhered to their reputations as spineless enablers of a destructive, racist and utterly incompetent president. A Post survey of Republicans in Congress found that a mere 27 of 249 acknowledged Biden’s victory. The vast majority were too cowardly to give a definitive answer.
No longer animated by a positive vision or policy ideas, the GOP is now simply a cauldron of writhing resentment and paranoia — a party that survives by spinning a web of lies and terrifying its own voters.
Our only hope is that the Republicans who remain in Congress will be as ineffectual in obstructing progress as they and their defeated president were in governing.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:57:57am

Whew! Good news at least.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:58:48am

re: #253 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

You’re bordering on the absurd.

We started with Facebook=cars and those goalposts have been moved to another country.

I disagree that it’s absurd. Everything has a cost benefit. Facebook does, also. I see too much weighing the pros and cons to Facebook from people who value apparently value little of what Facebook has to offer right now.

I see the bad. I really do. I also see an awful lot a good that Facebook permits that cannot replaced, functionally. I just want to see that recognized.

Regulate it, whatever. But don’t get rid of it unless you provide me the functionalities that I value very highly. As much as I do the value of my automobile.

Facebook should not be the only thing in the world that we don’t weigh pros and cons on because we think the cons are so bad.

I think there’s a tendency to devalue the good things that Facebook can do for people because some are soft and personal - like extended families maintaining meaningful regular contact. Some benefits, if you don’t use them, you don’t even know are there. I am part of the board or on the committees of at least 15 different organizations who use Facebook to organize their work. My son has a small retail business that does all of its advertising on Facebook. He increased his gross revenues from $314-$460,000 this year.

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Mattand  Dec 6, 2020 • 10:59:21am

re: #211 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

So its real character appears for a few days every 20 years?

Conversations with people who live in that area tend to be really choppy.

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Kilroy was here  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:01:38am

I’m not crying.. your crying…

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Mattand  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:02:42am

re: #241 🌹UOJB!

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:03:53am

re: #254 retired cynic

Jennifer Rubin:

The mistake Rubin makes is in not recognizing that, in the minds of the Repubs and their wingnut base, a paralyzed government is every bit as good or even better as an ineffective one. Why? Because a paralyzed government, a government where no legislation is passed beyond perhaps renaming post offices, becomes a target for the public’s hate and thus an easy boogeyman at election time. Where once they tried to convince people to elect them so things would get done, now they work to convince voters to stay home because “Nothing will ever change.”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:04:25am

re: #256 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Will, if you’re going to throw in climate change, the data centers that all of the tech industry use are massive contributors to GHGes.

But, the discussion did start with the promotion of fascism. Cars don’t do that; Facebook is rather too free-markety about it

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:05:24am

seen on my FB feed:

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:07:32am

re: #256 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

If you want to keep up with Grandma there’s phone, email, FaceTime, etc.

Facebook serves the purpose of literally interfering with democracy (Ireland had to ban it before their abortion vote). GDPR happened because of Facebook. They are a bad actor. They sold or gave user data to Cambridge Analytica which in turn gave trump the 2016 election by microtargeting people and using their own fears and biases against them.

Facebook is pure, unadulterated evil. It’s anti democracy. It’s Fox News, OANN for the internet.

It allows posts and groups that radicalize people.

There is no way any benefit or might provide outweighs its downside. None.

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mmmirele  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:08:33am

re: #251 thedopefishlives

As you may remember, it was a church Thanksgiving gathering - which I didn’t know my sister was going to attend, my parents told us about it after we had already arrived - where I suspect our current affliction came from. They care more for their own personal trappings and comfort than about actual people.

It’s performative piety, showing off your holiness in front of others. Going to a church Thanksgiving says that a person doesn’t care about their family, their neighbors, their…anybody. Jesus told people to pray in a closet and give your alms in secret.

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retired cynic  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:08:51am

re: #256 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Me, too. Not the money, because all of the groups I work for are 501c3 nonprofits, but we push hard there. I tend not to, not because I get lots of stuff I don’t want to see (those people haven’t been friended!) but because there is too much, and I have more to get done!

Many people do not have email addresses they are willing to share any longer, including my relatives, and FB messenger was how I learned of my uncle’s death from covid.

There are good and bad sides to most things.

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Teukka  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:10:40am

Now playing this lizards lair - Demon Slayer (Kimetsu no Yaiba) OST
[Composers: Yuki Kajiura & Go Shiina]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:10:56am

jeebuss

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:11:32am

re: #197 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I’d say Route 22 / Route 18 is the dividing line. That runs basically EW around the Brunswicks to Asbury Park area on the Shore.

It’s kind of the way if you live in NYC/Long Island, anything North of the Bronx was considered upstate.

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retired cynic  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:12:10am

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebuss

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:14:46am

re: #263 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Well, you’re not going to get the people off of their like my mom, who can’t remember how to send an image through the text messenger in the phone.

The central feature of Facebook to many people i know, even though they don’t call it this, is that its a pull service rather than a push one, unlike text messaging and email. You put something up there and other people get it when they want. And it’s that capability, which is also what Twitter offers, that will keep it around.

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mmmirele  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:17:14am

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebuss

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:20:36am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:21:47am

lol

and still a moron:

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lizardofid  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:22:28am

re: #271 mmmirele

And David Sedaris is trending on Twitter right now because he seriously suggested on CBS Sunday Morning that customers should be able to fire someone for “bad customer service.” He is being dragged on Twitter. This is a far cry from the “Santaland Diaries.”

I watched it this morning. I think it was the case of satirical piece falling flat.

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plansbandc  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:24:29am

re: #241 🌹UOJB!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:29:53am

re: #241 🌹UOJB!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:40:54am

re: #271 mmmirele

And David Sedaris is trending on Twitter right now because he seriously suggested on CBS Sunday Morning that customers should be able to fire someone for “bad customer service.” He is being dragged on Twitter. This is a far cry from the “Santaland Diaries.”

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:42:17am

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

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plansbandc  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:43:20am

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

I used to love him, but it’s all over now.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:45:14am
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Belafon  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:46:34am

re: #280 jaunte

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:51:29am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Like all Repub “cunning plans,” this one is biting them in the ass because they failed to realize that the “Invisible Hand” doesn’t discriminate when it whacks people’s finances.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:53:52am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:55:26am
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jaunte  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:56:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:58:17am

re: #288 jaunte

At @AllenWest’s Dallas rally promoted by the party, an InfoWars speaker says Gov. @GregAbbott_TX “doesn’t stand for the national anthem.”

that’s just mean…

teehee

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2020 • 11:59:30am

Infowars unleashing the Lebensunwertes Leben.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:02:29pm
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BigPapa  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:04:39pm

This Mehldau vid is sublime. I love that he discusses his thoughts about the pieces creating them during COVID. Shows he’s human and not some super amazing time lord sorcerer of musical imagery after all. But he sorta is. I guess I could have a beer with him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:05:23pm
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Axolotl  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:11:04pm

re: #140 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

You do drive a car, right? Despite cars killing tens of thousands of people a year? How is driving a car more moral than using Facebook?

Cars serve a utility. I’m some situations working is difficult without a car. Not to mention getting groceries or to the doctor.

Also cars don’t have an algorithm that makes them more profitable at the expense of human life. When might argue cars are working on the opposite.

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retired cynic  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:12:25pm

re: #271 mmmirele

And David Sedaris is trending on Twitter right now because he seriously suggested on CBS Sunday Morning that customers should be able to fire someone for “bad customer service.” He is being dragged on Twitter. This is a far cry from the “Santaland Diaries.”

Let’s let servers fire bad customers!

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:16:13pm

Here we go. Trump programmed his stooges to get violent and they’re executing the program!

Police arrested a 27-year-old man participating in a rally in support of President Donald Trump after he allegedly fired a gun at counter-protesters during a clash near the Washington state capitol

opb.org

Now who will be the next stooge to kill for Trump?

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:18:10pm

Another terrorist enabler:

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:19:41pm

Watch for Tantrum Monday.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:23:49pm

So Rudy has the Rona? Did I get that right?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:24:33pm
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retired cynic  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:25:01pm

re: #300 Charles Johnson

It is surprising. It is surprising it took this long.

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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:26:08pm

re: #297 jaunte

Another terrorist enabler:

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For a second there, I couldn’t tell if you were talking about Stonekettle or Mo Brooks, since, by frequently posting his material to Fascistborg, Stonekettle commits genocide against Nebraskans.

Then I came to my senses.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:28:24pm
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thedopefishlives  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:28:47pm

re: #303 jaunte

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I feel sorry for COVID right now.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:32:38pm

re: #300 Charles Johnson

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:33:43pm

Rudy has nothing to worry about!

Paula White and the rest of Trump’s Pulpit Pimp Posse will anoint him with oil, lay their hands on him, talk in tongues while Kenneth Copeland blows Covid away…

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makeitstop  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:34:21pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:36:09pm

But wait, is Donald lying again? 🤔

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:36:39pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:44:08pm

re: #299 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

So Rudy has the Rona? Did I get that right?

And he is maskless in all his appearances. Wonder when he was first contagious? Could it have been as long ago as the Wednesday hearing?

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:44:14pm

re: #309 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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So when is Rudy’s Star Witness going to come down with Covid?

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makeitstop  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:46:12pm

re: #311 🌹UOJB!

So when is Rudy’s Star Witness going to come down with Covid?

Or Jenna, for that matter?

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thecommodore  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:46:28pm

Georgia governor rebuffs Trump’s call for special session to overturn election results, top official says

Good to know that not even Brian Kemp is corrupt enough to do what Trump wanted.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:48:41pm

Trump talked so much about cucumbers last night I got hungry for Mom’s cucumber salad with sour cream, dill & sliced red onions!

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thecommodore  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:51:16pm

I realize this may sound pretty far fetched, but considering some of the shit Trump has pulled over the past five years, I think it’s fair to say there’s no such thing as something being too far fetched.

That said, is it far fetched to think that Trump will actually do what Michael Flynn suggested and declare martial law sometime between now and Biden’s inauguration, citing “massive voter fraud?”

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BigPapa  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:52:09pm

re: #314 🌹UOJB!

That looks amazing. Might try to make soon.

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makeitstop  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:52:33pm

re: #315 thecommodore

I realize this may sound pretty far fetched, but considering some of the shit Trump has pulled over the past five years, I think it’s fair to say there’s no such thing as something being too far fetched.

That said, is it far fetched to think that Trump will actually do what Michael Flynn suggested and declare martial law sometime between now and Biden’s inauguration, citing “massive voter fraud?”

That would never fly.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:56:10pm

re: #311 🌹UOJB!

So when is Rudy’s Star Witness going to come down with Covid?

GODDAMMIT! YOU DIDN’T PAY ME ENOUGH!

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:57:16pm

::: watching Hello Dolly :::
I need something to cheer me up. Rudy having COVID-19 just doesn’t cut it.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:58:02pm

re: #316 BigPapa

That looks amazing. Might try to make soon.

Very simple recipe

2 to 3 English cucumbers (peeled and thinly sliced)
1 tablespoon salt
1/2 cup sour cream
1 tablespoon white vinegar
3 tablespoons dill (fresh, chopped, or 5 teaspoons dried)
Dash of black pepper (freshly ground)

Slice the cucumbers, drain excess liquid then in another bowl combine all the other ingredients except the black pepper.

Add the sliced cucumbers to the mixed ingredients then just a dash of fresh ground black pepper on top. Mix it all up.

Let it chill for an hour in the refrigerator for the dill to leach into the dressing.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:59:05pm

re: #314 🌹UOJB!

Trump talked so much about cucumbers last night I got hungry for Mom’s cucumber salad with sour cream, dill & sliced red onions!

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Is it just pure sour cream or does it have something else in it?

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thecommodore  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:59:30pm

re: #317 makeitstop

That would never fly.

But would he try it?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 6, 2020 • 12:59:58pm

re: #321 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Is it just pure sour cream or does it have something else in it?

Vinegar to thin the sour cream.

I use crema, in a CA-twist. And it’s fantastic.

I also don’t bother with measurements, just eyeball all of it.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:00:46pm

re: #323 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Vinegar to thin the sour cream.

I use crema, in a CA-twist. And it’s fantastic.

I also don’t bother with measurements, just eyeball all of it.

Ugh. Of COURSE you would be one of “those” people.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:00:59pm

re: #321 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Is it just pure sour cream or does it have something else in it?

Mom tried it with cider vinegar but it just got a little too tart so she switched to white vinegar instead.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:01:17pm

re: #324 thedopefishlives

Ugh. Of COURSE you would be one of “those” people.

I mean I try SOMETIMES with measurements.

But not with the cucumber salad, I’m too lazy for that.

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Khal Wimpo (part of the vote-stealing cabal)  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:01:58pm

So the commenters on Breitbart are taking Trump’s loss well:

Fox News accidentally reported reality! Zounds! (snivel) Never watching it again! (sob)

Apparently, they’ve all decided to move on to “news” outlets that more slavishly tell them lies. Bye-bye to reality!

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thedopefishlives  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:02:07pm

re: #326 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I mean I try SOMETIMES with measurements.

But not with the cucumber salad, I’m too lazy for that.

I always envy people who can do that. My mom and mother-in-law both can. Me? I have to go by the recipe card, and if I’m missing something, I panic.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:02:07pm

re: #322 thecommodore

But would he try it?

You mean send out a tweet that says “I’m declaring martial law and requiring a new election” without notifying anyone in advance who could potentially implement this coup?

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:04:19pm

re: #314 🌹UOJB!

Trump talked so much about cucumbers last night I got hungry for Mom’s cucumber salad with sour cream, dill & sliced red onions!

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Looks delicious! Share the recipe?

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:05:19pm

re: #328 thedopefishlives

I always envy people who can do that. My mom and mother-in-law both can. Me? I have to go by the recipe card, and if I’m missing something, I panic.

I wish I had been able to get Grandma’s first edition of The Joy Of Cooking when she passed away. I found the recipes fascinating since they were formulated during the Depression.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:06:06pm

re: #330 The Pie Overlord!

Looks delicious! Share the recipe?

#320 above!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:06:19pm

re: #328 thedopefishlives

I always envy people who can do that. My mom and mother-in-law both can. Me? I have to go by the recipe card, and if I’m missing something, I panic.

For me it’s because of practice. As I’ve gotten more comfortable knowing what I’m doing in the kitchen and how things turn out, it’s easier to just wing it. (Note: this does not apply to baking at all.)

I do generally work from a recipe at least the first time…

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makeitstop  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:14:00pm

re: #322 thecommodore

But would he try it?

He’d float a trial balloon, but the reaction would be so negative he’d back right down.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:20:18pm

re: #321 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Is it just pure sour cream or does it have something else in it?

I do something similar with plain yogurt instead of sour cream.

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retired cynic  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:21:56pm

re: #335 Teddy’s Person

I do something similar with plain yogurt instead of sour cream.

I’ve always done it with plain yoghurt. It’s a Mediterranean dish, and the thinner you slice things, the better, IMO!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:49:40pm

re: #335 Teddy’s Person

I do something similar with plain yogurt instead of sour cream.

tzatziki sauce!

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CleverToad  Dec 6, 2020 • 1:53:53pm

re: #241 🌹UOJB!

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