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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Dec 27, 2020 • 9:44:59pm

I actually I know a couple of billionaires. Somewhat surprisingly to a lot of people, they have a good, accurate perspective about the value of money. Having billions doesn’t necessarily mean that $600 is less than nothing to you. It’s still $600. Someone like Trump, who is severely isolated from reality, may not have any idea what you could buy with $600 but even he knows it is enough to be important. Really smart billionaires, the self-made ones, know what it will buy. People who pretend it is nothing to them are part of that festering boil on the backside of human society, the failed status-seeker class.

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wrenchwench  Dec 27, 2020 • 9:53:27pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2020 • 10:09:11pm
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stpaulbear  Dec 27, 2020 • 10:09:20pm

re: #1 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Do they know they could help feed and shelter thousands of people in need without putting a dent in their lifestyle?

Sorry. I cringe at writing something so sanctimonious, but I’m at the ‘eat the rich’ stage of what’s happening to the 99.9%.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2020 • 10:16:38pm

Safe to say the Americans who need it most will burn through that $600 in less than an hour.

Great to know the U.S. government values you at $1800 / year.

/

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2020 • 10:16:48pm

re: #4 stpaulbear

Do they know they could help feed and shelter thousands of people in need without putting a dent in their lifestyle?

Sorry. I cringe at writing something so sanctimonious, but I’m at the ‘eat the rich’ stage of what’s happening to the 99.9%.

They either don’t, in which case they are morans, or they do, in which case they are sadists.

In either case, they are conservatives.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2020 • 10:18:11pm

Overnight Kitteh!

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2020 • 10:18:40pm

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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If anybody in the WH or DOJ heard this BS and signed off on it, they need to be disbarred immediately.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 27, 2020 • 10:21:14pm
The country is hellbent on the most exclusionary vision of itself that it can manage

Yup (The Office)

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thecommodore  Dec 27, 2020 • 10:22:09pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 27, 2020 • 10:33:07pm
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William Lewis  Dec 27, 2020 • 10:51:42pm

re: #1 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I actually I know a couple of billionaires. Somewhat surprisingly to a lot of people, they have a good, accurate perspective about the value of money. Having billions doesn’t necessarily mean that $600 is less than nothing to you. It’s still $600. Someone like Trump, who is severely isolated from reality, may not have any idea what you could buy with $600 but even he knows it is enough to be important. Really smart billionaires, the self-made ones, know what it will buy. People who pretend it is nothing to them are part of that festering boil on the backside of human society, the failed status-seeker class.

$600?

A bit more than a months rent.
A bit more than the 4 tires a truck needs, plus an oil change
A cheapish rifle
A couple of months of meds for a typical chronic illness - diabetes or hypertension, etc.
A decent pistol
Food for 4 months
A goodly amount of new cloths and shoes
A full “Bug Out Bag” with supplies for a month alone
6 months utilities costs

But only one of the above; each of them is that $600. When I have it to hand I am not sure which of those branches I will follow.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2020 • 10:52:26pm

Your tax dollars at work welding church and state together.

ABC San Francisco, reporting on a church which has been fined $1 million for defying health orders.

San Jose church repeatedly fined for defying health order received $340K in taxpayer money

SAN JOSE, Calif. (KGO) — Calvary Chapel San Jose, a church that faces more than $1 million in administrative fines for defying the state’s public health order, received a sizeable taxpayer-funded loan through the Paycheck Protection Program.

According to newly-released data from the Small Business Administration, Calvary Chapel San Jose received a $340,400 loan on April 15. ABC7’s analysis found that’s nearly three times more than what the average Bay Area religious organization received.

(more)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2020 • 10:53:23pm

re: #12 William Lewis

6 months utilities cost?

Damn, I wish mine were that cheap.

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William Lewis  Dec 27, 2020 • 10:55:04pm

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

6 months utilities cost?

Damn, I wish mine were that cheap.

Some areas are more expensive than others. Around here, also including the “Energy Assistance” welfare program I qualify for, I could probably stretch it to 6 months. Look at it as wishful thinking perhaps.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2020 • 10:56:00pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2020 • 10:58:49pm

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Presumably EW Jackson never read Psalms 23:4 (I thought wingnut pastors liked the Old Testament):

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2020 • 10:59:15pm

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

These people really hate the truth, don’t they?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2020 • 10:59:49pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

These people really hate the truth, don’t they?

It has a well-known liberal bias.

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Citizen K  Dec 27, 2020 • 11:00:51pm
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🌹UOJB!  Dec 27, 2020 • 11:01:20pm

re: #13 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Your tax dollars at work welding church and state together.

ABC San Francisco, reporting on a church which has been fined $1 million for defying health orders.

San Jose church repeatedly fined for defying health order received $340K in taxpayer money

(more)

Ah Calvary Chapel—The dearly departed Chuck Smith’s Pulpit Pimp Empire. Chuck said that the end times would commence in 1981…well they sorta did when Pruneface got into the White House…Oh and then there’s that little kerfuffle that Chuck had with his gay son..
.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2020 • 11:02:13pm

re: #15 William Lewis

Some areas are more expensive than others. Around here, also including the “Energy Assistance” welfare program I qualify for, I could probably stretch it to 6 months. Look at it as wishful thinking perhaps.

$600 would pay our water bill for twenty months. It would pay our electric bill for six months.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 27, 2020 • 11:02:37pm

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Presumably EW Jackson never read Psalms 23:4 (I thought wingnut pastors liked the Old Testament):

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

Which is why I refer to that Pulpit Pimp as EW Jackass.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 27, 2020 • 11:02:58pm

YouTube

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2020 • 11:03:10pm

re: #8 Targetpractice

If anybody in the WH or DOJ heard this BS and signed off on it, they need to be disbarred immediately.

Maybe someone proposed that Trump do this to get his cooperation in signing the legislation. It would not surprise me if he were planning to veto it until someone suggested that he create the signing statement to cover the items he didn’t support (actually that Faux News or Limbaugh didn’t support) so they could be “struck” from the legislation.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2020 • 11:03:56pm

re: #23 🌹UOJB!

Which is why I refer to that Pulpit Pimp as EW Jackass.

Virginia was definitely spared by not electing him.

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Jack Burton  Dec 27, 2020 • 11:04:21pm

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

$600 would pay our water bill for twenty months. It would pay our electric bill for six months.

All of my utilities together for 1 month are more than $600.

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Belafon  Dec 27, 2020 • 11:08:24pm

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

$600 would pay our water bill for twenty months. It would pay our electric bill for six months.

$600 would cover my electric and water together for 2 months. Add in my cable/internet/phone, and it would almost cover a month.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2020 • 11:10:44pm

re: #27 Jack Burton

All of my utilities together for 1 month are more than $600.

It was suggested here I could leave Conservatopia and move to Vermont.

I took a look at some house prices there. I’d have to win the Lotto first.

It does help that our water works is village-owned and the electric system is state owned here.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2020 • 11:11:45pm
If you’re looking for a case study in that slap-in-the-face maneuvering, look no further than the appointment of Marcus Bachmann, husband of former representative Michele Bachmann, who’s been appointed to the President’s Committee for People with Intellectual Disabilities, an advisory panel within the Department of Health and Human Services.

Mr. Bachmann is a Christian therapist. He’s not a medical doctor or even a licensed clinical psychologist. He has no apparent background remotely related to disabled people of any flavor (though, in the past, his wife has argued that vaccinations can cause, in her words, “mental retardation”).

What he does have is a history of anti-gay remarks and a counseling clinic that’s been accused multiple times of attempting conversion therapy on LGBTQ patients.

The allegations of strong anti-LGBTQ sentiment go back as far as 2005, when Bachmann gave a presentation at the explicitly anti-LGBTQ Minnesota Pastors’ Summit. His subject? “The Truth About the Homosexual Agenda.”

(more)

Michele Bachmann’s Anti-LGBTQ Husband Shows Up on Trump’s Slate of Key Advisors (Friendly Atheist)

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2020 • 11:35:59pm

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(more)

Michele Bachmann’s Anti-LGBTQ Husband Shows Up on Trump’s Slate of Key Advisors (Friendly Atheist)

Hopefully, Biden will be able to dislodge most of the Trump appointees from the various panels that will be advising him. And why is Trump taking this action with so little time left in his administration? Just to complicate life for Biden?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Dec 27, 2020 • 11:48:21pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 27, 2020 • 11:59:42pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 27, 2020 • 11:59:52pm

re: #31 Hecuba’s daughter

Hopefully, Biden will be able to dislodge most of the Trump appointees from the various panels that will be advising him. And why is Trump taking this action with so little time left in his administration? Just to complicate life for Biden?

All these board appointments serve at the pleasure of the President, so Biden can oust them. I assume someone in his campaign (or perhaps a whole team) are watching who Trump is putting in.

A longer description of what Trump is doing with advisory boards is here:

Trump rewards allies with high-level appointments as presidency winds down (Global News from Canada)

The positions that Trump has filled in recent weeks are generally on advisory boards in which members go without a salary, though they get reimbursed for travel expenses. The positions have what [political science professor Paul] Light [of NYU] describes as “gorgeous resume value.”

The number of advisory board positions has ballooned over the years. Light said that he believes past administrations have put in sincere work to match up people with the kind of credentials and experience Congress envisioned when it created those boards. He doesn’t see that same effort now.

“This is all favours repaid and favours earned,” Light said of Trump’s picks.

The White House did not respond to a request for comment about what the president is seeking to accomplish with the appointments and how he thinks they would enhance the work of the federal government.

Among the most consequential of the wave of appointments has been with advisory boards at the Pentagon.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 28, 2020 • 12:11:30am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 12:12:09am

Benton County couple in custody for torturing, beating family; four-year-old dies (KCRG-TV)

[caution for descriptions of extreme Christian behaviour]

TL;DR, a Christian couple in Missouri tourtured their neighbours with three children for two weeks because they alleged the mother was possessed by demons.

The family was threatened with murder by gun while the torture went on. Their four-year old child was killed by exposure in a pond then left to freeze to death. The other two children were also beaten along with their mother and father. The mother and one child are still in the hospital.

The father shares the same last name with the neighbours, but it it not known whether they are related.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 12:23:46am

Thread, twenty-four tweets.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 28, 2020 • 12:34:25am
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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 28, 2020 • 12:34:59am

So just startled out of bed by a loud thunderstorm. Rare lightning intensity for Los Angeles. Cats are hiding, scared of the thunder.

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Teukka  Dec 28, 2020 • 12:36:00am

re: #38 Dread Pirate Ron

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Baaaaah? ///

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 28, 2020 • 12:39:17am

re: #39 Rightwingconspirator

The rain is still south of me, from Milpenis/San Jose has rain it looks like.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Dec 28, 2020 • 12:41:51am

re: #38 Dread Pirate Ron

My question is how can they type with such significant brain damage?

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 28, 2020 • 12:42:03am

By the way, windy.com is a really good weather map site….

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Teukka  Dec 28, 2020 • 12:42:55am

re: #42 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

My question is how can they type with such significant brain damage?

There’s a video on Youtube where you have a paranoid schizophrenic that is difficult to tell apart from a Q…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2020 • 12:43:04am

re: #28 Belafon

$600 would cover my electric and water together for 2 months. Add in my cable/internet/phone, and it would almost cover a month.

That’s basically just my rent and heating costs for a month

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2020 • 12:45:17am

re: #35 Dread Pirate Ron

Hello, Republicans.

Is taxation theft ?

Taxation WITHOUT REPRESENTATION is a form of theft.

Otherwise, it is just a normal function of any democratic government.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 12:46:50am

re: #45 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That’s basically just my rent and heating costs for a month

$600 would cover my Internet service for four months. (It would be on for three, though.)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 28, 2020 • 12:51:49am

.

♪ Late In December / Jackie Gleason Orchestra

..

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 12:55:37am

re: #43 Rightwingconspirator

By the way, windy.com is a really good weather map site….

Thanks. No trackers even, so it loads more quickly.

Local weather (cold):

windy.com

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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 28, 2020 • 1:03:01am

re: #42 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

My question is how can they type with such significant brain damage?

Voice to text?

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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 28, 2020 • 1:07:40am

Let me test how voice to text works on LGF comet threads.

It miss interpreted comment as comet. I do tend to enunciate clearly so all is not perfect. It also turned misinterpreted into 2 words.

The above was all voice to text. I also went in manually to put space in between sentences.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2020 • 1:14:33am

re: #51 A Three Hour Tour

My ex-wife is from Scotland and quickly disco veered that voice-to-type was a waist of thyme.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 28, 2020 • 1:46:17am

re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My ex-wife is from Scotland and quickly disco veered that voice-to-type was a waist of thyme.

So is Scottish voice-to-ear.

(I’ve tried to watch Scottish mystery shows like Wire In the Blood. Great stories, but not very easy on the ear.)

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John Hughes  Dec 28, 2020 • 1:51:38am

So when is Charles going to call the election for Biden?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 2:00:55am

re: #54 John Hughes

So when is Charles going to call the election for Biden?

I thought about asking about that a couple days ago.

Perhaps Mr. Johnson is waiting to make sure Tang the Conqueror is actually out for good first.

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2020 • 2:06:05am

so Trump lroves he’s a coward.
again.
bluster.
nothing but hot air.

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2020 • 2:08:24am

and there’s this

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2020 • 2:18:51am

some mornings
an hour from the alarm
when its clear
there is no more sleep
it is best to just get up
and start the run

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2020 • 2:25:25am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2020 • 3:05:02am

re: #54 John Hughes

So when is Charles going to call the election for Biden?

I will wait until Biden is sworn in…

Donnie has already telegraphed that he has something up his voluminous sleeves.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 3:08:40am

It’s mealtime on the High Plains. Let’s see what my wife stirred up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2020 • 3:14:58am

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It’s mealtime on the High Plains. Let’s see what my wife stirred up.

or rustled up

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 3:39:39am

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

or rustled up

I’m back. She rustled up a Marie Callender chicken pot pie, and made a cranberry pie which is just now ready to eat *yum*

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thedopefishlives  Dec 28, 2020 • 3:47:50am

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m back. She rustled up a Marie Callender chicken pot pie, and made a cranberry pie which is just now ready to eat *yum*

Aren’t you a lucky fella.

Morning Lizardim.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 4:09:58am

LOL, reading a person’s story over at Reddit where they came out of the Trump cult and along the way also discovered they were trans.

A comment on that story:

Three stages of a trans girl:

I want to be a girl

I am a girl

Death to capitalism

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thedopefishlives  Dec 28, 2020 • 4:16:16am

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

LOL, reading a person’s story over at Reddit where they came out of the Trump cult and along the way also discovered they were trans.

A comment on that story:

Three stages of a trans girl:

I want to be a girl

I am a girl

Death to capitalism

A girl’s journey of self-discovery leads her down the road to the destruction of the military-industrial complex.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 4:20:54am

re: #66 thedopefishlives

A girl’s journey of self-discovery leads her down the road to the destruction of the military-industrial complex.

That sounds like it could be a good book or movie with the correct writers.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 28, 2020 • 4:21:33am

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That sounds like it could be a good book or movie with the correct writers.

It does, at that. That’s a pretty good tag line. I’m impressed with myself for 6:30 in the morning.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 4:24:29am

Contrary to wingnuts, the nurse who fainted while getting a Covid-19 vaccine is alive and well.

Wingnuts have been claiming she really died (dragging in the antivaxxers), creating fake documents, harassing her family, &c.

The hospital at which she works has now released two videos of her with her coworkers, but like any religion, conservatism is immune to facts.

Fact check: Nurse who fainted after COVID-19 vaccination is alive and well

She revealed to USA Today she has a condition which causes her to faint when pain is inflicted (such as an immunisation).

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nowherenorth2  Dec 28, 2020 • 4:37:20am

I play board games and d&d with a group. I was telling them about a recent email from my rep and the first line of the email stated ” we know that covid-19 was created in the wuhan province of china.”
One of my friends is a republican. He stated that that was true. Then told me that he knew no one personally who died from covid-19 and asked if people died from covid 19 or from underlying complications. He then said he doesn’t believe all science…
Needless to say. I ruined game night. Just amazes me about the echo chamber.

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nowherenorth2  Dec 28, 2020 • 4:40:01am

Addendum I forgot was that he said biden’s mental state is troublesome. Harris is really going to be president. And that Mike pence is the best choice for 2024 and that his policies are “like trump’s.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 4:46:03am

re: #70 nowherenorth2

I play board games and d&d with a group. I was telling them about a recent email from my rep and the first line of the email stated ” we know that covid-19 was created in the wuhan province of china.”
One of my friends is a republican. He stated that that was true. Then told me that he knew no one personally who died from covid-19 and asked if people died from covid 19 or from underlying complications. He then said he doesn’t believe all science…
Needless to say. I ruined game night. Just amazes me about the echo chamber.

I don’t know anyone personally who died of Covid-19 either. I don’t know anyone personally who’s even had it.

That doesn’t mean it isn’t real. I don’t know anyone who died of smallpox either.

“I don’t believe all (or any of) the science” is the goal-post moving of religious apologetics. If you ask “what evidence would convince you,” you will either get “none,” further conspiracy theories, or if you provide that evidence, the goal-post will just get moved again, “but whatabout… .”

A person who “doesn’t believe the science” about Covid-19 is an immediate danger to you and those you are close to if you allow them near you. You must protect your health, because selfish asshat isn’t going to do it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2020 • 4:46:23am

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m back. She rustled up a Marie Callender chicken pot pie, and made a cranberry pie which is just now ready to eat *yum*

“That’s my pot pie, Marvin!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2020 • 4:48:58am

re: #66 thedopefishlives

A girl’s journey of self-discovery leads her down the road to the destruction of the military-industrial complex.

Antifa Elegy?

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thedopefishlives  Dec 28, 2020 • 4:53:32am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Antifa Elegy?

Somebody get the Creative department on the phone, we’ve got ourselves a concept!

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 28, 2020 • 5:10:22am

re: #2 wrenchwench

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Hell, I’ll help you move out of the White House!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Dec 28, 2020 • 5:24:31am
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jeffreyw  Dec 28, 2020 • 5:26:17am

Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 5:26:52am

Far worse than the conspiracy theory guy with yarn and claims of aliens comes some real crazy conspiracy charts (and merch).

The Deep State Mapping Project

This is a creation of one Dylan Louis Monroe, who’s bio on Twitter reads:

Creator of the Deep State Mapping Project. Advocate for Truth, Peace, and Galactic co-operation.

There is a whole lot of insanity packed into one Website, but he still gets a 3/10 for Time Cube levels of nuts, or the labels on Emanuel Bronner’s Castile Soap.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 5:38:41am
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thedopefishlives  Dec 28, 2020 • 5:46:20am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 28, 2020 • 5:54:40am

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Benton County couple in custody for torturing, beating family; four-year-old dies (KCRG-TV)

[caution for descriptions of extreme Christian behaviour]

You have got to be shitting me.

The man said he himself had been beaten with a wooden spoon for showing compassion for his wife and children. When the man was asked by the deputy how he could stand by and watch the beatings of his wife and children, he responded by saying he was told his wife had a “demon” inside her and his children would end up the same way if the situation was not “taken care of.” Mast allegedly told him that if he told anyone or did not comply with the beatings, he would get the same or worse, or even be shot. He was told by Aumen not to provide aid or comfort to his family or Satan would come.

The man complied. He said the beatings had been going on for some two weeks. It included forcing the girl’s parents to perform sexual acts on her with a foreign object.

On Saturday, Mast and Aumen once again arrived at about 8:00 a.m. at which time Mast began beating the two-year-old boy with a wooden spoon. Then they left and returned around 5:00 p.m., and began beating the girl with a leather belt as she begged her family for help which was not forthcoming. She was then forced outside and made to get into a pond and stand in the water. Then the girl was held underwater by an unidentified adult, her father being forced to watch. [Ed. Dad watched but the person was unidentified? How does that work?] Then Mast beat the little girl with his fist and a belt and continued beating the little boy with the spoon. The girl, wet and beaten, was left on the bank to freeze.

So they would come and go as they pleased and the family on the beating end did nothing because the mother was supposedly possessed by the devil?

How was this discovered? Did someone find the little girls body?

And the people inflicting this were cohabitating but not married?

This is beyond weird in so many levels.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 5:56:54am

Coronavirus: Idlib residents bombarded by anti-vaccination messages (The National, United Arab Emirates)

Warplanes attack the village of Al Bara in southern Idlib on March 5, 2020, a day before a ceasefire went into effect in the province. AFP

Infertility, altered DNA and depopulation. These are just some of the so-called consequences of taking any of the new Covid-19 vaccines being launched around the world, at least according to the barrage of fake news circulating in north-west Syria that doctors said will lead to catastrophic consequences if swift action is not taken.

Several doctors, humanitarian and aid workers in north-west Syria told The National that in Syria’s last rebel-held area even convincing people that the virus is real is a daily struggle.

“People who have seen their children’s remains and their homes destroyed find it hard to believe in a virus they can’t see,” said Dr Mohammad Salem, head of the vaccination programme at the Assistance Co-ordination Unit, a Syrian opposition NGO that is one of the few credible sources of data on the coronavirus situation in north-west Syria.

Baseless claims peddled by public figures with considerable online followings or widely shared walls-of-text riddled with unresearched or inaccurate allegations are all contributing to widespread disregard of the virus, which has so far claimed the lives of 1.6 million people globally.

One self-proclaimed independent political researcher, who is verified on Twitter, told his 98,000 followers that if the virus does not kill them, a vaccine surely would.

A long-form, detailed explanation forwarded “many times” on WhatsApp, and received by The National from several unrelated sources around Idlib, tells of a “leaked audio recording of a US intelligence official” who reveals a plan to depopulate the Earth.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:04:13am

re: #82 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I can’t explain it, either the abusers’ behaviour or the parents’.

I suppose for the parents that might go to how much down the rabbit hole of religious belief they were.

That said, the article notes the family was threatened with firearms. That can lead to poor decision-making (I have crazy people living next to me; if I call the cops what happens if they don’t do anything).

I guess we’re going to have to wait to find out what happens with this.

But then, I could be merely misleading you. I am a “self-identified” atheist, and a Florida court has already granted my first wife a divorce from me for demon possession, so can you really trust me?

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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:06:44am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area this last week of 2020 (which feels like a decade’s worth of shit went down). I’m beat tired. It’s draining. And nowhere is this more acutely felt than watching GOPers and Trumpworld sabotaging the government and wrecking the economy for shits and giggles (or is it ratings, because it’s hard to see anything funny about this or the 340,000+ dead Americans).

Right now, roughly 1 in 1000 Americans has died from covid19. That’s not equally distributed across the nation. It’s far higher than that in places like NJ. Here in NJ, it’s 1 in 473 who have died. NY is 1 in 520.

North Dakota, which completely ignored the threat: 1 in 602. South Dakota: 1 in 611.

The majority of NY and NJ deaths occurred in March-May when few understood the disease, hospitals were completely overwhelmed in the NYC metro, and there were no treatments and doctors were trying everything imaginable to improve survival rates for those coming in.

ND and SD managed to decimate their populations knowing that the best way to preserve life and keep people safe was masking and social distancing. They did neither. Both states are among the bottom in adoption of masking/social distancing among the general population and neither mandates masking.

Stay the fuck home if you’re feeling unwell, mask the fuck up for fuck’s sake if you do have to go out for essentials, and social distance. The life you save might be your own.

(All figures derived from worldometers). JHU is lagging worldometers by a couple of days, but it’s in the same ballpark.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:08:11am

re: #81 thedopefishlives

The conspiracy wing of the GOP is going to keep pumping out these “Ten Neat Tricks to steal an election [number 8 will shock you!]” articles straight through the inauguration. (Yes - don’t expect this to stop after the electoral votes are counted)

They have been counted, they just await certification by the Senate…which it sounds like Trump is going to try to interfere with.

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plansbandc  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:14:23am

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Your kitteh is so adorable. <3

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:16:30am

We can’t let a pandemic interfere with meth distribution.

KEARNEY — A former Shelton woman has been federally indicted after more than 1½ pounds of methamphetamine was seized from her house in September.

On Sept. 12, police served a search warrant at the house of Sandra D. Samuelson, then of Shelton. In addition to the suspected meth, $3,878 and a pistol were seized.

Samuelson, 46, now of Kearney, was arrested and is charged in Buffalo County District Court with felony distribution of meth more than 140 grams, possession of a firearm by a prohibited person, prohibited acts, possession of marijuana over one ounce but less than one pound and possession of a deadly weapon during the commission of a felony.

(more)

starherald.com

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:24:14am

More(ish) info on that weird story.

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plansbandc  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:25:37am

re: #24 Dread Pirate Ron

I want a time machine just for music.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:26:55am

re: #89 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

More(ish) info on that weird story.

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Just wait for the trial when their defense is “Jay-Zuss told us to kill her!” and the Jury in the Show Me How Stupid We Can Get State let them off the hook…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:27:07am

And more.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:27:36am

re: #91 🌹UOJB!

Just wait for the trial when their defense is “Jay-Zuss told us to kill her!” and the Jury in the Show Me How Stupid We Can Get State let them off the hook…

Religious Freedom is at stake here!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:28:38am

re: #92 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Sheriff: Missouri girl’s killers sought to remove ‘demon’

I agree that children that age are demonically possessed, but there is not a lot you can do about it except wait for them to grow up…

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thedopefishlives  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:29:58am

re: #92 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Because, you know, when Jesus drove out demons, he had to beat people to within an inch of their lives and drown them. Fuck.

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:31:59am

Trumps at maragrifto
Pence is in Vail
Mnuchin is in mexico

Fuckers

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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:34:11am

This is a thread of how Trump “negotiates” while the reality is that he’s a saboteur and extortionist who doesn’t care about anything except ekeing out more money and slapping his name on stuff.

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Belafon  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:34:39am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:35:23am

re: #89 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

More(ish) info on that weird story.

Aumen lived with Mast and his wife, Knox said. A Facebook post from the sheriff’s office identified the parents, who have the same last name as the male defendant. According to Knox, investigators were told they were not related.

So a threesome.

The sheriff in the article says he cannot comment on whether the parents face legal exposure, but the investigation continues.

Unfortunately in some states, religion is something of a get-out-of-jail free card regarding medical care or mistreatment of children. I don’t know if that’s the case in Missouri. It unfortunately leads to the occasional news article of a child dying because they were denied treatment, or mistreated, by their parents.

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:35:40am
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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:39:07am

re: #100 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV

The incoming batch of good ol’ fascists are a bunch of fascists and fascist enablers. They are authoritarians who want to impose their views on everyone else and don’t care how many suffer because they got theirs.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:41:29am

re: #94 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I agree that children that age are demonically possessed, but there is not a lot you can do about it except wait for them to grow up…

It was the mother who was supposedly possessed not the children.

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:41:30am

re: #70 nowherenorth2

I play board games and d&d with a group. I was telling them about a recent email from my rep and the first line of the email stated ” we know that covid-19 was created in the wuhan province of china.”
One of my friends is a republican. He stated that that was true. Then told me that he knew no one personally who died from covid-19 and asked if people died from covid 19 or from underlying complications. He then said he doesn’t believe all science…
Needless to say. I ruined game night. Just amazes me about the echo chamber.

I don’t know anyone who died of cancer.
Ffs

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:41:40am

When you have lost even the NY Post….

Mr. President, it’s time to end this dark charade.

We’re one week away from an enormously important moment for the next four years of our country.

On Jan. 5, two runoff races in Georgia will determine which party will control the Senate — whether Joe Biden will have a rubber stamp or a much-needed check on his agenda.

Unfortunately, you’re obsessed with the next day, Jan. 6, when Congress will, in a pro forma action, certify the Electoral College vote. You have tweeted that, as long as Republicans have “courage,” they can overturn the results and give you four more years in office.

In other words, you’re cheering for an undemocratic coup.

You had every right to investigate the election. But let’s be clear: Those efforts have found nothing. To take just two examples: Your campaign paid $3 million for a recount in two Wisconsin counties, and you lost by 87 more votes. Georgia did two recounts of the state, each time affirming Biden’s win. These ballots were counted by hand, which alone debunks the claims of a Venezuelan vote-manipulating Kraken conspiracy.

Sidney Powell is a crazy person. Michael Flynn suggesting martial law is tantamount to treason. It is shameful.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:42:15am

re: #100 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV

How do you have “second-hand experience” living somewhere—Dave Weigel

You have a family member in that country.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:42:16am

re: #95 thedopefishlives

Because, you know, when Jesus drove out demons, he had to beat people to within an inch of their lives and drown them. Fuck.

Mother and son beaten within an inch of their lives. Daughter beaten to death.

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:43:15am

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I don’t know anyone personally who died of Covid-19 either. I don’t know anyone personally who’s even had it.

That doesn’t mean it isn’t real. I don’t know anyone who died of smallpox either.

“I don’t believe all (or any of) the science” is the goal-post moving of religious apologetics. If you ask “what evidence would convince you,” you will either get “none,” further conspiracy theories, or if you provide that evidence, the goal-post will just get moved again, “but whatabout… .”

A person who “doesn’t believe the science” about Covid-19 is an immediate danger to you and those you are close to if you allow them near you. You must protect your health, because selfish asshat isn’t going to do it.

How do you “decide” which science to “believe”?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:43:38am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:43:47am

re: #107 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV

How do you “decide” which science to “believe”?

Your faith will guide you.

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Belafon  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:44:09am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:46:17am

re: #107 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV

How do you “decide” which science to “believe”?

Which ever science fits your needs or beliefs.

“I don’t believe in vaccine science because I think vaccines have poisons.”

“I believe in physics because I like owning my cell phone.”

“But I don’t believe in physics because a 5G cell phone can cause you to get Covid-19.”

“I believe in medicine because I need antibiotics when I have an infection.”

“I don’t believe in antibiotics because evolution by natural selection explains how they work.”

&c

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garzooma  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:47:08am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You have a family member in that country.

Or you read a book by Solzhenitsyn. Really, it could be anything.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:48:24am

Just had another friend die from Covid yesterday…

To those who buy the Republican bullshit that Covid is nothing to worry about I will reply…

Go fuck yourselves…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:49:15am

re: #104 Eric The Fruit Bat

When you have lost even the NY Post….

It’s all about the Republicans winning GA. That’s what the Post spent too many paragraphs saying. Trump et al are fucking up GA and they should stop doing that.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:50:21am

Oh, I needed a laugh today and Tom Tomorrow delivers!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:50:36am
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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:51:20am

re: #84 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I can’t explain it, either the abusers’ behaviour or the parents’.

I suppose for the parents that might go to how much down the rabbit hole of religious belief they were.

That said, the article notes the family was threatened with firearms. That can lead to poor decision-making (I have crazy people living next to me; if I call the cops what happens if they don’t do anything).

I guess we’re going to have to wait to find out what happens with this.

But then, I could be merely misleading you. I am a “self-identified” atheist, and a Florida court has already granted my first wife a divorce from me for demon possession, so can you really trust me?

That depends on which demon.

On second reading were you possessed by a demon?
or did you possess an invisible demon friend?
Maybe named Harvey
And you spent more time with it than your wife…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:51:47am

re: #108 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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American Terrorist Suicide Bomber.

Granted, he took precautions to prevent loss of life but it was still an act of terror and potentially deadly to others.

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mmmirele  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:52:35am

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

LOL, reading a person’s story over at Reddit where they came out of the Trump cult and along the way also discovered they were trans.

A comment on that story:

Three stages of a trans girl:

I want to be a girl

I am a girl

Death to capitalism

Uhm, except for the Trump cult part, does this person live in Alabama? Because basically that’s her story.

And you know, she’s so nice. She went over to her ex-wife’s house to replace a faucet, and her ex-wife STILL thinks, after all this time, that being transgender is still just a phase. Me: Hello, lady, I took your ex to the hospital for her confirmation surgery and saw her every day after that until she went home. As for her suicide attempt, she still has a Civil War era bullet in her shoulder, I’d say she was definitely suicidal. MK is much nicer than me, that’s all I can say.

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:54:55am

re: #86 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They have been counted, they just await certification by the Senate…which it sounds like Trump is going to try to interfere with.

There’s a reason why these dates are spaced apart
Safe harbor
Ec votes
Congress accepts
Inauguration

Trumps got nuthin

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:56:29am

re: #89 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

More(ish) info on that weird story.

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Is it wrong to say they look exactly like I figured?

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:56:43am

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Overnight Kitteh!

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SQUEEEEE!!! Kevin 💜💚

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:57:20am

re: #38 Dread Pirate Ron

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So there was pizza making machines in the building and the live stock have escaped?

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:58:57am

re: #120 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2020 • 6:59:40am

re: #97 lawhawk

This is a thread of how Trump “negotiates” while the reality is that he’s a saboteur and extortionist who doesn’t care about anything except ekeing out more money and slapping his name on stuff.

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Well he’s the $600 president now

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:01:11am

re: #98 Belafon

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Not world.
Party, Matt.
Just one party.

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Belafon  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:01:27am

Thread:

Picking out the important summary ones:

…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:03:02am

re: #113 🌹UOJB!

Just had another friend die from Covid yesterday…

To those who buy the Republican bullshit that Covid is nothing to worry about I will reply…

Go fuck yourselves…

I am sorry for the loss you are enduring.

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Alephnaught  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:03:50am

re: #97 lawhawk

This is a thread of how Trump “negotiates” while the reality is that he’s a saboteur and extortionist who doesn’t care about anything except ekeing out more money and slapping his name on stuff.

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I like all those immediate responses to the thread on Dec 23rd that went “Ha ha! He just vetoed!” or, even more ironically, “Well, that tweet aged well.”

I also notice a couple of the early responses were like “But, he doesn’t have anything to lose!”, as if a) that was true, and b) having nothing to lose is a magical superpower as far as politics goes.

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:07:33am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Which ever science fits your needs or beliefs.

“I don’t believe in vaccine science because I think vaccines have poisons.”

“I believe in physics because I like owning my cell phone.”

“But I don’t believe in physics because a 5G cell phone can cause you to get Covid-19.”

“I believe in medicine because I need antibiotics when I have an infection.”

“I don’t believe in antibiotics because evolution by natural selection explains how they work.”

&c

So…darts

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:10:22am

re: #114 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

It’s all about the Republicans winning GA. That’s what the Post spent too many paragraphs saying. Trump et al are fucking up GA and they should stop doing that.

Same editorial also said this:

If you insist on spending your final days in office threatening to burn it all down, that will be how you are remembered. Not as a revolutionary, but as the anarchist holding the match.”

“revolutionary”? Yeah but not in the way they mean

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cat-tikvah  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:10:32am

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Sheesh, I taught Torah and Jewish Bible, with special attention to biblical prophets, and their messages boiled down to two:
Turn back from your evil ways (warnings, righteous anger)
Take comfort, it will get better (compassion)

Don’t any of these folks actually read the text they claim to revere? Or is it like all those “patriots” who claim to love a Constitution they don’t understand?

Yeah, I already know the answer.

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Teukka  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:12:11am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:13:14am

re: #132 cat-tikvah

Don’t any of these folks actually read the text they claim to revere? Or is it like all those “patriots” who claim to love a Constitution they don’t understand?

Yeah, I already know the answer.

The onion nailed it over a decade ago:

Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be

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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:18:53am

re: #125 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV

Well he’s the $600 president now

Well, someday soon, hopefully that’ll be all that he has to his name.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:19:07am

re: #130 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV

So…darts

Antivaxxeer crap is a weird version of the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy.

This sometimes occurs in other fields of science. A study in Sweden examining health effects of living near high-voltage power lines over twenty-five years came up with a positive correlation between living within three hundred metres and about eight hundred different ailments. In particular, childhood leukemia came up four times more often than across Sweden by average.

The anti-sciencers then went to the Swedish Parliament to get laws passed to do something to “protect the children.”

The problem was with such a large number of ailments in a relatively small population being assessed (eight hundred ailments of people within three hundred metres), a cluster of some disease was very likely.

They drew the target around “childhood leukemia” and said “See?”

That particular study comes up occasionally now in discussions of high-voltage transmission lines, particularly as a counter to building new ones.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:20:01am

re: #135 lawhawk

Well, someday soon, hopefully that’ll be all that he has to his name.

You seem to think he has more than this now.

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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:22:00am

re: #137 thedopefishlives

Good point.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:24:11am

re: #137 thedopefishlives

You seem to think he has more than this now.

Well, after all that grifting from his supporters over his “stop the steal, give me money” campaign, he might now.

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jaunte  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:25:39am
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Teukka  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:25:43am

re: #136 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Antivaxxeer crap is a weird version of the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy.

This sometimes occurs in other fields of science. A study in Sweden examining health effects of living near high-voltage power lines over twenty-five years came up with a positive correlation between living within three hundred metres and about eight hundred different ailments. In particular, childhood leukemia came up four times more often than across Sweden by average.

The anti-sciencers then went to the Swedish Parliament to get laws passed to do something to “protect the children.”

The problem was with such a large number of ailments in a relatively small population being assessed (eight hundred ailments of people within three hundred metres), a cluster of some disease was very likely.

They drew the target around “childhood leukemia” and said “See?”

That particular study comes up occasionally now in discussions of high-voltage transmission lines, particularly as a counter to building new ones.

They’re the modern day equivalent to the nutbars who claimed telegraphs and electrical power lines caused the flu back in the late 19th to early 20th centuries… Also, is it known whether you have clustering both with overhead wires and with underground cables, or didn’t the research bother to differentiate between the two?

HV Underground cables have lesser electrical fields around them, but they are a PitA to deal with engineering-wise. Magnetic fields are of similar magnitude, but the thing with magnetic fields and those “allergic” to electricity is that things do not quite add up.

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jaunte  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:26:07am
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thedopefishlives  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:27:05am

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, after all that grifting from his supporters over his “stop the steal, give me money” campaign, he might now.

I don’t know if that was even enough to cover his campaign debts, but you might be correct.

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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:28:13am

re: #142 jaunte

How many patients have lesser care because Walter Reed ousted this doctor who criticized Trump’s joyride?

Trump’s fascist authoritarian spin in the WH is wrapping up and the damage done will take generations to be cleaned up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:31:43am

re: #144 lawhawk

How many patients have lesser care because Walter Reed ousted this doctor who criticized Trump’s joyride?

Trump’s fascist authoritarian spin in the WH is wrapping up and the damage done will take generations to be cleaned up.

I assume he will be reinstated after January 20th…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:34:15am

re: #142 jaunte

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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:35:05am

Seditious GOPers are seditious:

I would read that as a mass resignation of GOPers from NH legislature.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:38:53am

re: #147 lawhawk

Yeah, the Governor needs to call their bluff, like this tweet suggests:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:40:08am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:41:02am

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, the Governor needs to call their bluff, like this tweet suggests:

“We support the Right to Have One’s Cake and Eat it, Too!!!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:41:56am

re: #147 lawhawk

Seditious GOPers are seditious:

I would read that as a mass resignation of GOPers from NH legislature.

It would appear they want their Libertarian Paradise (tm)

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:43:25am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“We support the Right to Have One’s Cake and Eat it, Too!!!”

Heh. But seriously, if I were the NH Governor, I’d schedule a live presser for 5 pm local time and announce that I accept their mass resignation with immediate effect and announce that I’m scheduling special elections to fill those now-vacant seats.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:52:37am

re: #152 Dr Lizardo

Heh. But seriously, if I were the NH Governor, I’d schedule a live presser for 5 pm local time and announce that I accept their mass resignation with immediate effect and announce that I’m scheduling special elections to fill those now-vacant seats.

The NH Democrats should immediately advance a resolution to accept the resignations.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Dec 28, 2020 • 7:55:57am

re: #78 jeffreyw

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Western good morning!

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:09:24am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The NH Democrats should immediately advance a resolution to accept the resignations.

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Oh those folks who signed that are in violation of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment and they must be removed from the legislature and barred from any government entity.

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nines09  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:09:51am

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:10:55am

re: #147 lawhawk

Seditious GOPers are seditious:

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I would read that as a mass resignation of GOPers from NH legislature.

There’s a growing pocket of ultra-libertarian irrationals living here.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:11:30am

Well, that make three times in the last six days maintenance has snaked out the sewage service line to prevent “shit pools” from forming outside my building, and prevent waste water from flowing into my bathtub whenever my upstairs neighbors flush the toilet.

There was a moment of amusement when the dogs freaked when they had fed the snake in the wrong direction and they could hear the head rattling around in the toilet trap

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:12:48am

re: #152 Dr Lizardo

Heh. But seriously, if I were the NH Governor, I’d schedule a live presser for 5 pm local time and announce that I accept their mass resignation with immediate effect and announce that I’m scheduling special elections to fill those now-vacant seats.

Sununu, who has done an ok job with the pandemic, but whom I don’t like for his ed. and reproductive rights records, has been increasingly vocal not just about the loons in his own party here, but about the extremists in the GOP nationally.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:12:59am

Well, if they’re going to declare themselves in revolt, it would seem the answer is to send out the National Guard to round them up. Play stupid games, &c.

That would be one way to end this moronic political theatre: Take them at their word.

New Declaration of Independence for NH Read, Signed, & Delivered in Concord by Crowd of Revolutionaries (Goes to Free Keene)

They don’t put their names on the Website, though.

If you read it, get a pillow to protect your head from the incoming headdesk. They proclaim Gov. Sununu (R) as a “king.”

They make lots of citations from the New Hampshire Constitution to show how their liberties are allegedly infringed.

They curiously fail to mention Article 3 in the New Hampshire Bill of Rights in the Constitution of the state, which reads:

[Art.] 3. [Society, its Organization and Purposes.] When men enter into a state of society, they surrender up some of their natural rights to that society, in order to ensure the protection of others; and, without such an equivalent, the surrender is void.
June 2, 1784

Funny that, it’s almost as if all those libertarian “rights” they are claiming are nullified by the same document with which they are trying to justify them.

New Hampshire State Constitution—Bill of Rights (goes to the New Hampshire state government Website)

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wrenchwench  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:13:41am
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A Cranky One  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:18:51am

re: #141 Teukka

They’re the modern day equivalent to the nutbars who claimed telegraphs and electrical power lines caused the flu back in the late 19th to early 20th centuries… Also, is it known whether you have clustering both with overhead wires and with underground cables, or didn’t the research bother to differentiate between the two?

HV Underground cables have lesser electrical fields around them, but they are a PitA to deal with engineering-wise. Magnetic fields are of similar magnitude, but the thing with magnetic fields and those “allergic” to electricity is that things do not quite add up.

I wonder if the utility companies use herbicides to stunt plant growth (and hence maintenence costs) under the HV lines? If so, that is a more likely cause of cancer clusters.

If the study didn’t evaluate other potential causes it’s worthless.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:20:14am

About the only people who will come out of the Trump Presidency better off than they went in are rich white people.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:22:00am

I’m going to head off to bed.

Remind me not to go to New Hampshire again. There’s too many nutbars since I was last there.

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sagehen  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:23:18am

re: #107 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV

How do you “decide” which science to “believe”?

Does my iPhone work? When I put gas in my car, does the internal combustion engine operate as expected? When my brother was anesthetized for his hernia operation and slept through it? That science I “believe.”

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Teukka  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:25:32am

re: #162 A Cranky One

I wonder if the utility companies use herbicides to stunt plant growth (and hence maintenence costs) under the HV lines? If so, that is a more likely cause of cancer clusters.

If the study didn’t evaluate other potential causes it’s worthless.

Herbicides, PCB’s…

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:29:07am

re: #141 Teukka

They’re the modern day equivalent to the nutbars who claimed telegraphs and electrical power lines caused the flu back in the late 19th to early 20th centuries… Also, is it known whether you have clustering both with overhead wires and with underground cables, or didn’t the research bother to differentiate between the two?

HV Underground cables have lesser electrical fields around them, but they are a PitA to deal with engineering-wise. Magnetic fields are of similar magnitude, but the thing with magnetic fields and those “allergic” to electricity is that things do not quite add up.

Well, maybe not. If you’re talking about 1890 or so, they’re missing about 140 years of science. Specifically, germ theory was brand new, and propagating it to the general population was a slow process without modern media.

The 1920s were another matter (although some people were probably still running on the education they’d had twenty years earlier), but even so, all the wrong causes they were coming up with were things that hadn’t been around for long, so it wasn’t quite as wacked out to think they might have side effects.

In other words, they had some excuse for at least entertaining the idea that those other brand-new things might be the cause of these new problems. Unlike our contemporaries.

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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:32:28am
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Citizen K  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:32:55am

The success in which the term ‘terrorism’ has been both narrowed and expanded in the American conscience, to which anything done by foreign and/or non-white ethnic perpetrators counts as ‘terrorism’ but white folks, when they explicitly use the same tactics as those we agree are ‘terrorists’, for a clear terrorist purpose, never are allowed to be called Terrorists. At best, they’re lone wolves who clearly offer no insight into a larger dynamic, unlike when a single black person throws a tear gas can shot into a protest crowd back. Then that’s clearly and obviously indicative of a prejudicial campaign against the police by ”organized criminal elements’ who want to burn down the city for shits and giggles, obviously.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:34:26am

re: #162 A Cranky One

I wonder if the utility companies use herbicides to stunt plant growth (and hence maintenence costs) under the HV lines? If so, that is a more likely cause of cancer clusters.

If the study didn’t evaluate other potential causes it’s worthless.

Here in Michigan they don’t use chemicals. I’ve been monitoring the quarter-mile stretch of big power line right-of-away on the west edge of my property for 34 years now. They cut stuff they should not, but I’ve never have seen or smelled chemicals.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:37:01am
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:37:04am

Ok, this was bad, but I laughed anyway.

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sagehen  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:38:22am

re: #154 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

Western good morning!

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That pic is so exquisitely lifelike I can smell it on the page.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:38:41am

re: #156 nines09

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mmmirele  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:39:35am

re: #162 A Cranky One

I wonder if the utility companies use herbicides to stunt plant growth (and hence maintenence costs) under the HV lines? If so, that is a more likely cause of cancer clusters.

If the study didn’t evaluate other potential causes it’s worthless.

We have wide and long utility right of ways that run W/E across Mesa. Some of them are actually mowed. Others have lots of cactus growing but there are well worn paths between the cactus clumps. People have been walking their dogs under those utility lines for decades. The right of ways do have poles and cables blocking ingress points for people attempting to run off-road vehicles through there. Probably a lot more than you wanted to know about large/long utility right of ways.

ETA We also have quite a number of canals that run from northeast to southwest. Some of these canal beds are ancient. The Mormon farmers who came to Mesa to grow oranges at the turn of the 20th century found the very well engineered canals left behind by the Hohokam and repurposed them. The Hohokam left behind hundreds of miles of canals when their society ended around 1450.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:40:49am

I think of Warner as a suicide bomber-terrorist because he’s already allowed some yahoo to copycat the warning scaring the shit out of law enforcement. The Las Vegas guy, too. What else did he intend but to send waves of fear and panic among hundreds gathered for a concert?

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:45:00am

re: #176 Barefoot Grin

I think of Warner as a suicide bomber-terrorist because he’s already allowed some yahoo to copycat the warning scaring the shit out of law enforcement. The Las Vegas guy, too. What else did he intend but to send waves of fear and panic among hundreds gathered for a concert?

On the evidence, the Las Vegas guy wanted to kill lots of people.

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retired cynic  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:50:09am

re: #170 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Here in Michigan they don’t use chemicals. I’ve been monitoring the quarter-mile stretch of big power line right-of-away on the west edge of my property for 34 years now. They cut stuff they should not, but I’ve never have seen or smelled chemicals.

They do both down here in downstate IL.

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:53:28am

A new Gallup poll finds Congress’ job approval rating is at just 15%, the lowest of the 116th Congress, and President Trump’s job approval rating has fallen to 39% — down seven percentage points from before the election.

In contrast, nearly two-thirds of Americans approve of the way Joe Biden is handling his presidential transition.

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sagehen  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:56:04am

re: #170 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Here in Michigan they don’t use chemicals. I’ve been monitoring the quarter-mile stretch of big power line right-of-away on the west edge of my property for 34 years now. They cut stuff they should not, but I’ve never have seen or smelled chemicals.

They should rent a herd of goats.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:57:00am

re: #169 Citizen K

Imagine how different the headlines would be if the bomber was black…or latino.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:57:08am

re: #177 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

On the evidence, the Las Vegas guy wanted to kill lots of people.

Yeah, that’s pretty easy.

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:00:43am
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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:01:43am

re: #180 sagehen

But will you stare at them?

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:02:47am

re: #160 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The problem is these dipshits can’t tell the difference between society and ‘socialism’.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:04:10am

re: #163 Eclectic Cyborg

About the only people who will come out of the Trump Presidency better off than they went in are rich white people.

They might change their minds when the guillotines go up. /

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:05:32am

re: #169 Citizen K

“He’s not a suicide bomber because he had never intended to kill anyone. The term “suicide bomber” has been reserved for those people who have killed others are had intentions to kill. That’s how most people have come to understand it.”

Granted, he took precautions not to kill anyone, but he certainly must have taken into account that persons could have been killed or injured despite his best efforts.

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Citizen K  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:07:42am

re: #181 Eclectic Cyborg

Note this pedantry ever only goes one way, per always. Anything to avoid using a word to describe a white perp that’s de facto reserved for just about any crime a non-white person commits.

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John Hughes  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:07:58am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I assume he will be reinstated after January 20th…

That would work. Of course the people who fired him should be fired. And never work in healthcare or government service ever again.

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plansbandc  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:08:08am

re: #154 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

So pretty!

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plansbandc  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:09:35am

re: #161 wrenchwench

Dude and I were just talking about how amused we are with animals who play dead. This is perfect. :D

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thedopefishlives  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:10:16am

Jesus. Why is this a debate? Anthony Quinn Warner is a goddamn terrorist and a suicide bomber. Whatever his actual motive or end goals, he did the following: 1) Used a weapon with potential for large-scale death or destruction; 2) caused extensive death or damage in a public fashion; 3) created significant uncertainty of safety in his wake.

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Citizen K  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:10:42am

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Granted, he made efforts not to kill anyone, but he certainly must have taken into account that persons could have been killed or injured despite his best efforts.

Also, the whole point is that just because the goal for most suicide bombers has been mass death does not mean that this, which explicitly targeted a communication center and took down essential communications for the city for nigh unto 2-3 days so far, was not purposeful, planned, and with an explicit goal in mind. I’m pretty fucking sure that counts as terrorism, regardless of the lack of death.

But again, we’ve successfully found ways to pedant our way out of ever referring to a white perp as a ‘terrorist’ while always inventing new ways to treat brown folk, especially foreign brown folk, as ‘terrorists’ even for things that wouldn’t have fell under the banner of ‘terrorism’ until that point..

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Citizen K  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:12:07am

re: #192 thedopefishlives

Jesus. Why is this a debate? Anthony Quinn Warner is a goddamn terrorist and a suicide bomber. Whatever his actual motive or end goals, he did the following: 1) Used a weapon with potential for large-scale death or destruction; 2) caused extensive death or damage in a public fashion; 3) created significant uncertainty of safety in his wake.

Because he’s white. White perps must necessarily be treated and described in the most glowing and sympathetic ways possible, because we reserve most of our suspicion and loaded words for non-white folk, especially blacks, even when (especially when?) they’re the victim and not the perp.

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:14:02am

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Granted, he made efforts not to kill anyone, but he certainly must have taken into account that persons could have been killed or injured despite his best efforts.

- killing other people (intending or not/non combatants or military) is not a factor
- damaging or destroying a target is (could be people or not)

- as for suicide - if there’s a very high likelihood of not surviving the attack, whether intentional or not, that’s pretty much definitional

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:14:32am

re: #161 wrenchwench

It’s the Ted Nugent of snakes!

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A Cranky One  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:14:38am

Taking out the 911 service for a large area likely resulted in some deaths (since emergency services couldn’t be reached).

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:16:03am

re: #192 thedopefishlives

Jesus. Why is this a debate? Anthony Quinn Warner is a goddamn terrorist and a suicide bomber. Whatever his actual motive or end goals, he did the following: 1) Used a weapon with potential for large-scale death or destruction; 2) caused extensive death or damage in a public fashion; 3) created significant uncertainty of safety in his wake.

re: #195 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV

oh, i see you pretty much wrote that…

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thedopefishlives  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:16:56am

re: #198 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV

Great minds, etc., etc.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:17:23am

re: #177 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

On the evidence, the Las Vegas guy wanted to kill lots of people.

Las Vegas guy was a terrorist but not a bomber. For Nashville, motivation could be important — after all if he had been fired from AT&T, it would be in a totally different category i.e. going postal. But he wasn’t; and if the attack were 5G related, then that would fit the definition of suicide bomber.

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A Cranky One  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:18:04am

re: #196 Dr Lizardo

It’s the Ted Nugent of snakes!

Here is music far more cerebral than anything by Ted:

Five Minutes of Pink Oyster Mushroom Playing Modular Synthesizer

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:19:28am

Teddy looks like he’s at the end of a week-long bender.

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Alephnaught  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:25:39am

re: #188 Citizen K

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Note this pedantry ever only goes one way, per always. Anything to avoid using a word to describe a white perp that’s de facto reserved for just about any crime a non-white person commits.

I’m old enough to remember a time before 9/11, when if you asked people in the British Isles to name a terrorist group, they’d say “The IRA”*, and that group often bombed places to cause property damage.

What struck me about the Nashville bombing was that there was a warning given out before the bomb detonated. The IRA would do the same thing very often, such as in the 1996 Dockland Bombings, in order to get people out of the way.

I’d love to see how these pedants try and argue that the IRA wasn’t a terrorist organisation and didn’t commit terrorist acts.

(*EDIT: Technically it’s “The Provisional IRA”)

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thedopefishlives  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:25:46am

re: #200 Hecuba’s daughter

Las Vegas guy was a terrorist but not a bomber. For Nashville, motivation could be important — after all if he had been fired from AT&T, it would be in a totally different category i.e. going postal. But he wasn’t; and if the attack were 5G related, then that would fit the definition of suicide bomber.

I think we’re still being too nuanced with that. A disgruntled worker could still qualify as a terrorist if they carry out their attack in a way that fits the patterns of terrorism. If they walk in with a handgun, shoot a few people, and get arrested - sure, not a terrorist, I buy that. But if they blow up their former workplace with a damn truck, I’d call that a terrorist even if their motivation wasn’t strictly to cause terror.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:30:59am

re: #201 A Cranky One

Sorta reminds me of this famous scene for some reason:

Steven Spielberg - Close Encounters of the Third Kind, 1977 - Play The Five Tones

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Citizen K  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:36:57am

re: #203 Alephnaught

There’s also the fact that even if this guy acted without acting in the name of an explicit organization, the propensity of stochastic terrorism on the white supremacist and alt-right side of things means they don’t need to be to still be carrying out attacks in the name of a codified and widespread ideology.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:49:43am

Ran across this old tweet about Satan’s Tinkerbell (h/t Joe Bacon). Nothing new, but it’s good to have witnesses.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:50:42am
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thedopefishlives  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:52:15am

re: #207 Dr. Teddy’s Person

Ran across this old tweet about Satan’s Tinkerbell (h/t Joe Bacon). Nothing new, but it’s good to have witnesses.

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That’s absolutely chilling. The woman is outright evil.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:55:33am

Just checking Twitter (my mistake) and I see “trending” on the right side:

And my reaction was: Twitter, you’re trying too hard.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:58:08am

This tweet perfectly encapsulates this entire damn post-election fiasco.

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plansbandc  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:58:31am

Apple pie for brunch doesn’t suck.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:59:47am

re: #212 plansbandc

Apple pie for brunch doesn’t suck.

Saturday, I just gave up and had a bowl of ice cream for dinner.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 28, 2020 • 10:01:57am

Akiva starts in on GOHMERT!’s latest farce, and, well, it’s every bit as much of a shitshow as our favorite asparagus could produce.

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sagehen  Dec 28, 2020 • 10:03:12am

re: #194 Citizen K

Because he’s white. White perps must necessarily be treated and described in the most glowing and sympathetic ways possible, because we reserve most of our suspicion and loaded words for non-white folk, especially blacks, even when (especially when?) they’re the victim and not the perp.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 28, 2020 • 10:05:31am

Medical billing - what a disaster.

So I go to pay a bill… and now there’s a different phone number. Then when I do connect (after holding) it sounds like different people than with whom I’ve dealt before (for this doctor’s office.)

Pay the bill via CC.

Check CC online… the name of the billing company is different than the prior billing company (which was named after the medical group.)

So I call the medical billing company and ask them what the name is on my credit card bill… and they say: oh yeah, we’re the new billing office.

I check my doctor’s online site, and that site still has a third, and different, way to pay the bill (online), that is not the same as the first or second (new) ocmpany.

What can we conclude other that all this billing gymnastics is yet another reason why healthcare costs are so high in this country?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2020 • 10:09:46am
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sagehen  Dec 28, 2020 • 10:09:55am

re: #203 Alephnaught

I’m old enough to remember a time before 9/11, when if you asked people in the British Isles to name a terrorist group, they’d say “The IRA”*, and that group often bombed places to cause property damage.

What struck me about the Nashville bombing was that there was a warning given out before the bomb detonated. The IRA would do the same thing very often, such as in the 1996 Dockland Bombings, in order to get people out of the way.

I’d love to see how these pedants try and argue that the IRA wasn’t a terrorist organisation and didn’t commit terrorist acts.

(*EDIT: Technically it’s “The Provisional IRA”)

Long before the PLO, we used to have a Puerto Rican terrorist organization, the FALN. They did bombings, hijackings, they shot up Congress one time (automatic weapons from the gallery). They tried to assassinate President Truman, one of his bodyguards died shielding him.

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2020 • 10:10:14am

re: #211 thedopefishlives

This tweet perfectly encapsulates this entire damn post-election fiasco.

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why not just open a single state’s envelope - ie Wyoming and leave it at that?

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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2020 • 10:14:30am

The speculation on Warner’s motive and pointed effort to avoid dubbing him a terrorist will continue up until authorities or the press find somebody willing to say on the record that he was “disturbed,” at which point he’ll be written off as “just another crazy white guy” and the country will move on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2020 • 10:16:49am
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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 28, 2020 • 10:17:21am
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sagehen  Dec 28, 2020 • 10:17:48am

re: #213 Dr. Teddy’s Person

Saturday, I just gave up and had a bowl of ice cream for dinner.

Mint Chocolate Chip? Cherry Garcia? Americone Dream?

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 28, 2020 • 10:19:21am

re: #223 sagehen

Mint Chocolate Chip? Cherry Garcia? Americone Dream?

A scoop of chocolate and a scoop of vanilla. See, Needy Amin’s not the only one who gets two scoops.

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lawhawk  Dec 28, 2020 • 10:22:52am

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kayak’s still showing their inflated costs of $1300 a room per night.

Yeah, they’re still trying to cash in even as Trump exits stage left.

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coin operated  Dec 28, 2020 • 10:22:58am

Had to do a double-take to be sure…yup…theres a $500K RV in the resort flying a “Trump 2024” flag.

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garzooma  Dec 28, 2020 • 10:57:22am

re: #211 thedopefishlives

This tweet perfectly encapsulates this entire damn post-election fiasco.

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Rasmussen Reports

Come January 6th:

Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything. - Stalin

Did Rasmussen just suggesting taking advice from Stalin?

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Florida Panhandler  Dec 28, 2020 • 10:59:15am

re: #225 lawhawk

Kayak’s still showing their inflated costs of $1300 a room per night.

Yeah, they’re still trying to cash in even as Trump exits stage left.

Trump will still keep rates as high as possible and try to take advantage of the pundit-endorsed theory that he will be the Republican leader from now on.

Those who wish to curry favor with Republicans will use Trump facilities to grift their way into their political machine. That’s the theory anyway. The reality may end up being very different, especially as prison walls make it hard to manage day to day crime, and may tend to cause support from the rabble to falter a bit.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 28, 2020 • 11:22:32am

re: #162 A Cranky One

I wonder if the utility companies use herbicides to stunt plant growth (and hence maintenence costs) under the HV lines? If so, that is a more likely cause of cancer clusters.

If the study didn’t evaluate other potential causes it’s worthless.

One might wonder if the study already had its conclusion ready and was just looking for data to justify itself. Though that is not an indictment of science but of those attempting it.

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John Hughes  Dec 28, 2020 • 12:40:30pm

re: #162 A Cranky One

You’re falling into the same error as the loons.

If you search for clusters of any sort around some specific type of location you will find them. You don’t need to look for a “cause”, it’s just a statistical artifact.

Now, if you look for clusters of a particular illness, then, assuming it’s statistically improbable, you might spend the time to work out why.


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Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
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