The Bob Cesca Interview: Mary Trump Returns

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Mary Trump Returns — [Explicit Language] Mary is of course a clinical psychologist and the niece of the ex-president. She’s also the author of the must-read book Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World’s Most Dangerous Man. You can follow Mary’s work and her brilliant political commentary on Twitter @MaryLTrump. Today we’ll talk about the insurrection and its aftermath, frustrations with the Senate, how Uncle Donald is coping with losing the election, and a lot more. Meanwhile, if you like what you hear today, don’t forget to subscribe to our bonus content at patreon.com/bobcescashow.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 27, 2021 • 2:16:10pm

Carrying over from downstairs:

re: #174 Charles Johnson

Things we’ve seen the past few Wednesdays:

- An armed mob of Terrorists take over the U.S. Capitol
- The President of the United states get impeached…AGAIN
- The Next President of the United States taking office.

Today seems a bit tame by comparison.

/ Half

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darthstar  Jan 27, 2021 • 2:19:04pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

Today seems a bit tame by comparison.

/ Half

It’s not over yet!

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darthstar  Jan 27, 2021 • 2:19:14pm
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darthstar  Jan 27, 2021 • 2:20:39pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 27, 2021 • 2:23:01pm

re: #4 darthstar

He’s likely to be struck down by lightning out of a clear sky if he goes after Carter.

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Nyet  Jan 27, 2021 • 2:26:12pm

A mob of Boeberts.

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ckkatz  Jan 27, 2021 • 2:27:51pm

Regarding the Nigerian pirates in the Gulf of Guinea from last thread… Piracy has been going on since, at least, the Nigerian Oil Boom back in the 1970’s.

Piracy in West Africa: Preventing a Somalization of the Gulf of Guinea, Pt. 1
cimsec.org

” The historical epicenter is Nigeria, where pirates have parasitically fed off the country’s oil boom since the 1970s. During Nigeria’s first iteration of piracy, the crime began as simple economic opportunism. Ransacking docked ships was common, while bolder pirates—equipped with little more than canoes and machetes—ventured slightly further from port in attempts to board and rob slow-moving vessels. The theft of crude oil from refueling or anchored ships, referred to as “bunkering,” also brought a tidy profit through resale on a black market that spans the continent.”

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 27, 2021 • 2:32:45pm

From downstairs:

re: #158 Patricia Kayden

The Hill
@thehill
Poll: Trump’s standing rises among Republicans hill.cm

Actually, it may be because thousands of people have left the party after the Capitol insurrection. Of the ones left, the approvers are a larger percentage of the total.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 27, 2021 • 2:41:05pm

The first time I remember seeing her on the screen was in Ralph Meeker’s KISS ME DEADLY.

RIP, Cloris Leachman.

people.com

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 27, 2021 • 2:42:49pm
Many Trump loyalists think Democrats were out to get him from the start

Perhaps because he was a racist garbage person/president* even before he started? That couldn’t possibly be the reason.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 27, 2021 • 2:43:04pm

Meanwhile, in that hotbed of batshit crazy known as Michigan GOP:

Senate Republicans on Wednesday blocked the appointment of 13 people to state boards and commissions, political retribution aimed at Gov. Gretchen Whitmer apparently in response to state orders related to COVID-19 and vetoes.

House Republicans matched the political machinations, announcing a plan to withhold billions in federal funding for education unless the governor agrees to a law that would strip her and the health department of emergency health powers.

Both moves are intended as a political and legislative blow to the authority of the governor, but also likely indicate a prolonged fight that could delay providing billions of dollars in already approved assistance to residents who desperately need the help.

As of this week, nearly 14,500 people have died from COVID-19 and more than 550,000 people have contracted the coronavirus. Hundreds of thousands have either temporarily or permanently lost their jobs, and millions are awaiting receiving the COVID-19 vaccine.

The Senate voted 19-14 along party lines to reject the 13 appointments. The governor needs Senate approval for appointments; typically the process requires consideration of the individual appointees at the committee level, and rarely are they rejected as a group.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 27, 2021 • 2:44:01pm

re: #9 🌹UOJB!

Cloris Leachman

She was great in the Mel Brooks films.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 27, 2021 • 2:46:02pm

re: #12 Eric The Fruit Bat

She was great in the Mel Brooks films.

The Last Picture Show, too!

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2021 • 2:48:54pm

Monster
zonked out
and still peekin’

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retired cynic  Jan 27, 2021 • 2:54:32pm

deleted by me

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William Lewis  Jan 27, 2021 • 2:55:47pm

re: #15 retired cynic

Had never seen this before: Abraham Lincoln and Edgar Allen Poe. Wonder how THAT meeting came about?

[Embedded content]

Alas…
snopes.com

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Decatur Deb  Jan 27, 2021 • 2:58:11pm

re: #3 darthstar

Just ate a whole bowl of hot soup while standing on a balance board. #CovidSkills

Cirque du Bouillabaisse

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retired cynic  Jan 27, 2021 • 2:59:54pm

re: #16 William Lewis

Alas…
snopes.com

Oh, for heaven sakes! I’ve got to be more suspicious!

Thanks!

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:03:13pm

Daguerreoshop

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EPR-radar  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:03:20pm

re: #18 retired cynic

Oh, for heaven sakes! I’ve got to be more suspicious!

Thanks!

So, no-longer-retired cynic?

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Nyet  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:05:12pm

re: #19 jaunte

Daguerreoshop

À la guerre comme à la guerre.

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KGxvi  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:05:33pm

re: #8 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

From downstairs:

Actually, it may be because thousands of people have left the party after the Capitol insurrection. Of the ones left, the approvers are a larger percentage of the total.

The really interesting thing from that poll is the question about a Patriot Party. Among Republicans it’s 36-30 staying vs going, with 8% saying neither and 25% unsure. Among Trump voters, those numbers break down 31-35-5-28.

Let’s say that 28% breaks evenly. That’s 49% of Trump’s voters going to the new party. That’s about 23.5% of the popular vote nationally. At the state level, that’s enough to put states like Oklahoma, the Dakotas, and Idaho in play.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:06:39pm

hey y’all
take a breath
listen
hear that?

its the sound of nothing going on right now

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:07:05pm
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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:08:06pm
At least five federal judges with lifetime appointments who have announced plans to retire or semi-retire since last Wednesday, the day Donald Trump left the White House, the HuffPost reports.

That’s after eight judges had already announced their plans to step down since Biden was declared the winner of the 2020 presidential election.

come on mitch
show us how unity works

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KGxvi  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:08:33pm

re: #24 jaunte

How dare you do the thing I was doing only at a much larger scale and in a way that is going to fuck me over?

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TarHellion  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:09:28pm

re: #13 🌹UOJB!

She was so good in Last Picture Show. Peter Bogdanovich had predicted she would win an Oscar while the film was being made. Ellen Burstyn had turned down the role.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:09:33pm

re: #24 jaunte

Remember the CA energy crisis about 20 years ago?

When energy companies were deliberately CAUSING blackouts to spike the cost of power and making life miserable for almost everyone on the west coast?

Same basic idea. Profiteers give no shits about who they have to fuck over to make money.

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LadyBehir  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:16:29pm

Is Mary Trump actually Dr Trump? Is a clinical psychologist a doctorate designation?

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EPR-radar  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:17:42pm

re: #28 Eclectic Cyborg

Remember the CA energy crisis about 20 years ago?

When energy companies were deliberately CAUSING blackouts to spike the cost of power and making life miserable for almost everyone on the west coast?

Same basic idea. Profiteers give no shits about who they have to fuck over to make money.

The CA energy deregulation debacle ended what remained of my belief in ‘free market’ solutions.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:20:41pm

Humans adapt.

New Orleans celebrating “Yardi Gras”
wvlt.tv

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:22:13pm

re: #29 LadyBehir

Is Mary Trump actually Dr Trump? Is a clinical psychologist a doctorate designation?

Mary Trump does hold a PhD in psychology, but I don’t know if you are required to have such a degree to be called a clinical psychologist.

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darthstar  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:23:43pm

28 years? That’s gotta suck.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:26:19pm

re: #33 darthstar

28 years? That’s gotta suck.

It will improve the prison salad bar.

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BeachDem  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:27:49pm

Another GOP braintrust is heard from (at least they didn’t call him a FIREBRAND!)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:27:57pm

re: #32 Hecuba’s daughter

Mary Trump does hold a PhD in psychology, but I don’t know if you are required to have such a degree to be called a clinical psychologist.

[son of woman with a degree in clinical psychology hat]

To hold the job title of “clinical psychologist,” a person must hold a PhD or a PsyD.

To work in related fields of clinical psychology (education, research, hospital work, &c) they are called by their job title, but not a clinical psychologist.

A shorter form of clinical psychologist is Doctor.

[/hat]

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Greup  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:34:24pm

re: #33 darthstar

28 years? That’s gotta suck.

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I’m hoping this is what will doom the republicans. Once their followers are looking at decades in jail, the messaging of the leaders innocence will be hard to make stick.
The Democrats should let this take a while so more and more details will come out and more and more people will start to become desperate.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:35:03pm

re: #35 BeachDem

Another GOP braintrust is heard from (at least they didn’t call him a FIREBRAND!)

[Embedded content]

because what has my job to do with legislation?

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:36:19pm

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

[son of woman with a degree in clinical psychology hat]

To hold the job title of “clinical psychologist,” a person must hold a PhD or a PsyD.

To work in related fields of clinical psychology (education, research, hospital work, &c) they are called by their job title, but not a clinical psychologist.

A shorter form of clinical psychologist is Doctor.

[/hat]

but she’s a woman

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:37:30pm

re: #37 Greup

I’m hoping this is what will doom the republicans. Once their followers are looking at decades in jail, the messaging of the leaders innocence will be hard to make stick.
The Democrats should let this take a while so more and more details will come out and more and more people will start to become desperate.

I didn’t pull the cats tail
I only held the cats tail.
it ran.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:37:45pm

re: #35 BeachDem

Another GOP braintrust is heard from (at least they didn’t call him a FIREBRAND!)

[Embedded content]

Read the Time article and it was just sickening to see how they kissed that Nazi’s ass.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:37:50pm

re: #28 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh. I remember that scam first hand
I used to commute past a power plant devoted to providing surplus capacity while it sat idle daily, and listening to rhetoric on the radio about how California regulations would not allow new plants, and that lack of capacity was why we had shortages and brownouts

The worst outages took place in a mild winter, when the power load was a lot lower historically than the summer. I think if the power schemers messed with a/c season there would have been a lot more public anger.

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LadyBehir  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:37:56pm

Picturing the wingnut head explosions if Dr Biden and Dr Trump work on a project together with full Press coverage.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:39:33pm

meanwhile in Kentucky:

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TedStriker  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:40:18pm

re: #9 🌹UOJB!

The first time I remember seeing her on the screen was in Ralph Meeker’s KISS ME DEADLY.

RIP, Cloris Leachman.

people.com

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:40:41pm

empty and echoing Trump hotel. there’s video

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:42:27pm

re: #35 BeachDem

Another GOP braintrust is heard from (at least they didn’t call him a FIREBRAND!)

[Embedded content]

Hmmm…

he founded a real estate investment firm called SPQR Holdings

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teleskiguy  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:44:44pm

Don Jr. followed “Ricky Vaughn” on Twitter. Charles pointed it out and Don Jr. blocked him.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:44:56pm

Hopefully thinking.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:47:02pm
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sagehen  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:50:39pm

re: #16 William Lewis

Alas…
snopes.com

if it makes you feel any better, Oscar Wilde and Walt Whitman probably had sex:

mhpbooks.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:52:19pm

re: #39 Dangerman

but she’s a woman

And she’s never caught a baby (but was on the business end of delivering two).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:56:28pm
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jaunte  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:56:52pm
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William Lewis  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:58:22pm

re: #33 darthstar

28 years? That’s gotta suck.

[Embedded content]

They must have changed the charge sheet after that second grand jury. OOPS!

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retired cynic  Jan 27, 2021 • 3:59:58pm

re: #51 sagehen

if it makes you feel any better, Oscar Wilde and Walt Whitman probably had sex:

mhpbooks.com

Doesn’t do anything for me.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:00:37pm

re: #55 William Lewis

They must have changed the charge sheet after that second grand jury. OOPS!

It’s all fun and games until you’re looking at spending a few decades behind bars.

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:06:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:08:39pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:09:04pm

Report this troglodyte for directing hate at transgender people. Behind a clicky because gross.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:12:24pm

good fucking grief

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:12:31pm
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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:12:49pm

re: #33 darthstar

28 years? That’s gotta suck.

[Embedded content]

Nothing complicates your life quite like a federal indictment.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:13:39pm
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No Malarkey!  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:14:27pm
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Jay C  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:17:20pm

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

“Industrial hemp”
SRSLY?
Is that what they’re calling it these days….?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:18:19pm

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

Ugh. Darrell fucking Issa is on there too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:18:49pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:19:12pm

re: #65 No Malarkey!

I lettered in two sports (skiing and soccer) all four years in high school, never got a jacket. My sister lettered in skiing and academics and did get a jacket, she gave it to a thrift store a couple of years after she graduated.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:19:20pm

re: #67 Eclectic Cyborg

Ugh. Darrell fucking Issa is on there too.

and Chip Roy

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:19:25pm

How. The. Fuck. Is. This. Legal?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:19:31pm

re: #64 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

As I have said, I think it’s pure authoritarian “because we’re in charge.”

It’s genocide.

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Belafon  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:19:56pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

About fucking time.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:21:02pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:22:10pm

re: #71 Eclectic Cyborg

How. The. Fuck. Is. This. Legal?

What?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:23:52pm
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William Lewis  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:28:50pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

I lettered in two sports (skiing and soccer) all four years in high school, never got a jacket. My sister lettered in skiing and academics and did get a jacket, she gave it to a thrift store a couple of years after she graduated.

I was an academic letterman (Debate and Forensics)and even got given the letter much to my humor. I think it’s still floating around in my piles of junk. Last time I thought of it I considered having it sewn onto my field jacket along with my sgt stripes after I got out but I didn’t think anyone would really get it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:29:14pm

re: #75 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What?

Refresh the comment. Specifically, the Missouri government being allowed to withhold vaccinations from its residents simply because they don’t want them vaccinated.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:31:50pm

re: #57 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

It’s all fun and games until you’re looking at spending a few decades behind bars.

and known as fur and horns guy

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:35:12pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

I lettered in two sports (skiing and soccer) all four years in high school, never got a jacket. My sister lettered in skiing and academics and did get a jacket, she gave it to a thrift store a couple of years after she graduated.

Charlestown, Massachusetts, had a murder problem in the nineties. Everyone knew, but you know about snitches and what they get.

The cops found one guy. He was pissed. Cop tells him, “You don’t want to be caught, then don’t wear your fucking school jacket!” He was just one of several suspects they rolled up in the same way.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:38:46pm
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plansbandc  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:42:12pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

I lettered in basketball and lacrosse and got a jacket. LOVED it. Lost it in my fire.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:43:59pm

Another conservative who doesn’t understand how the Constitution works.

Impeachments start in the US House, Ted. But you knew that. You’re lying to your supporters.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:49:20pm

Probably already posted because I had one whale of a shitty day, but here’s today’s Legaltainment (tm):

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:50:03pm

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Another conservative who doesn’t understand how the Constitution works.

Impeachments start in the US House, Ted. But you knew that. You’re lying to your supporters.

Or he could be trying to appear to be as ignorant as his supporters.

“Look - he thinks like I do.

He’s one of us!”

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:55:06pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 27, 2021 • 4:56:35pm

Speaking of skiing, it was very nice today. Good soft snow, not too crowded.

Although a snowboarder almost took me out. I cussed him good, called him a fucking asshole and told him to watch where he was going and “you’re lucky I don’t whack your knees with my pole!” He said he was sorry.

This is China Bowl at Vail.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:00:21pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:00:38pm
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Belafon  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:01:05pm
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ckkatz  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:04:38pm

re: #34 Decatur Deb

Ken White (PopeHat) had a thought on that:

By the way, I hope that you didn’t get caught up in the tornado that hit the Birmingham ‘burbs Monday?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:05:25pm
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Belafon  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:05:42pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:08:58pm

Die broke and homeless. Or in prison.

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EPR-radar  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:12:23pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

A DHS bulletin about the threat posed by the Republican stochastic (or worse) SA really shouldn’t omit “Republican” from the threat description.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:13:06pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

The yellow ones need to work on their team skills. Especially their defence.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:13:25pm

😂😂

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:13:59pm

re: #92 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I read the opinion in full. They actually pleaded, in court, that masks are medical equipment and that they have a right to refuse medical treatment. Okay, then, you go ahead and have your COVID parties. Just keep ‘em to yourselves. You can all go die alone and in pain for all I care.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:14:09pm

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Another conservative who doesn’t understand how the Constitution works.

Impeachments start in the US House, Ted. But you knew that. You’re lying to your supporters.

After the GOP regains control of the House in the 2022 midterms, they can impeach former Democratic Presidents in between voting to repeal Obamacare, since they don’t want to pass legislation anyway.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:14:13pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:14:42pm

Not related to the Capitol insurrection, a criminal moran is caught.

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teleskiguy  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:17:34pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:21:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:27:56pm
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thecommodore  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:28:54pm
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jaunte  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:29:20pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

“we’re not allowed to ask questions to her or anyone in the building”

FREEDOM!!!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:30:07pm
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plansbandc  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:31:14pm

Cuteness alert!

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darthstar  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:32:28pm
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stpaulbear  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:35:27pm

re: #96 Romantic Heretic

The yellow ones need to work on their team skills. Especially their defence.

Yep, and every time they scored, they turned towards the camera wondering “where is my treat!” They’re only in it for the seeds.

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:37:49pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:39:36pm

re: #91 ckkatz

Ken White (PopeHat) had a thought on that:

By the way, I hope that you didn’t get caught up in the tornado that hit the Birmingham ‘burbs Monday?

Nah. We’re a couple hours south of the Yankee part of Alabama.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:39:40pm

oh

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:40:06pm

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:42:29pm
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(((Archangel1)))  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:43:32pm

re: #102 teleskiguy

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If the hedge funds were hoping that the current closure of the main Discord channel used by the social media traders and the pressure on Reddit (which led to the WSB channel turning private) would deter or depress folks, then they were seriously wrong.

All those folks are ANGRY now.


This is starting to resemble the days of the digital music revolution in the late 90s/early 2000 and the failed efforts by the record companies to stop it over fears due to declining album sales. Sure, the RIAA may have killed Napster all those years ago, but music downloads and streaming never went away. Today, streaming music platforms are as common as white bread.
They can close one site, but these social traders will just go to another, and then another and then ANOTHER. And if they didn’t have an axe to grind with Wall Street hedge funds, you can bet they have one now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:43:57pm
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lawhawk  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:45:24pm

re: #93 Belafon

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This is not entirely accurate.

Individual income tax rates are expected to revert to pre TCJA rates after 2025; this was part of the chicanery the GOP played in getting the tax cuts for businesses and the 1%ers.

Most people see a temporary tax break (of about 7 years), while businesses get a permanent break. That’s how they gamed the JCT/CBO scoring.

The way that they’re suggesting that the tax rates are increasing for this year isn’t on the actual tax brackets (which aren’t changing) but in other breaks that are no longer operative - namely around the health care premiums tax break. Tax Foundation does address this.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:45:27pm

re: #116 (((Archangel1)))

If the hedge funds were hoping that the current closure of the main Discord channel used by the social media traders and the pressure on Reddit (which led to the WSB channel turning private) would deter or depress folks, then they were seriously wrong.

All those folks are ANGRY now.

[Embedded content]

This is starting to resemble the days of the digital music revolution in the late 90s/early 2000 and the failed efforts by the record companies to stop it over fears of lost sales. Sure, the RIAA may have killed Napster all those years ago, but music downloads and streaming never went away. Today, streaming music platforms are as common as white bread.
They can close one site, but these social traders will just go to another, and then another and then ANOTHER. And if they didn’t have an axe to grind with Wall Street hedge funds, you can bet they have one now.

Dopefish’s First Rule of the Internet: The Internet is Forever.
Dopefish’s Second Rule of the Internet: Don’t Piss Off the Internet. It bites back. Hard.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:47:58pm
Alpine, New Jersey, Police Chief Christopher Belcolle told HuffPost via email on Tuesday that “an investigation is being conducted by the Bergen County Prosecutor’s Office” and that “no additional information can be released.” The Conway family has a home in Alpine.

The Bergen County Prosecutor’s office confirmed “that each member of the Conway family has been fully cooperative throughout the investigation.”

So someone’s investigating

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sagehen  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:50:03pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh

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She’s 85 years old. Perhaps it’s time she retire.

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austin_blue  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:50:42pm

Re: Cloris Leachman and a quick look at her IMDB history:

She was born in 1926 in Des Moines, Iowa.

Her first mention in a movie was in “Carnegie Hall” in 1947. Her nest was in “Kiss me Deadly” in 1955. She made dozens of TV appearances before and after on pretty much every damned major serious drama production in TV in between, from Actor’s Studio, to Kraft Theater, to Alfred Hitchcock Presents.

She played June Martin, Timmy’s mom on Lassie, for 28 episodes in 1957 and 1958 until she was fired for not wanting to go on the road and flog Campbell’s Soup ( the shoe’s sponsor).

At the time of her death, she had two movies in Post Fucking Production.

That, my friends , is the definition of a working actress.

RIP.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:52:15pm

re: #108 plansbandc

Cuteness alert!

little loki here is doing a great job at tackling stairs

I only regret, that I have but one upding to give

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:52:44pm
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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:53:33pm

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 27, 2021 • 5:54:42pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:00:03pm

re: #122 austin_blue

Re: Cloris Leachman and a quick look at her IMDB history:

She was born in 1926 in Des Moines, Iowa.

Her first mention in a movie was in “Carnegie Hall” in 1947. Her nest was in “Kiss me Deadly” in 1955. She made dozens of TV appearances before and after on pretty much every damned major serious drama production in TV in between, from Actor’s Studio, to Kraft Theater, to Alfred Hitchcock Presents.

She played June Martin, Timmy’s mom on Lassie, for 28 episodes in 1957 and 1958 until she was fired for not wanting to go on the road and flog Campbell’s Soup ( the shoe’s sponsor).

At the time of her death, she had two movies in Post Fucking Production.

That, my friends , is the definition of a working actress.

RIP.

Timmy’s later mom, June Lockhart, is hanging on at age 95, as is Timmy himself (Jon Provost) who is now 70.

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retired cynic  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:02:08pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:03:18pm
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Jack Burton  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:03:46pm

re: #94 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Die broke and homeless. Or in prison.

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I like Bob Cesca’s idea. Bulldoze Mar-a-lago and turn it into a cemetery for COVID victims. Tear down Trump tower in Manhattan and turn it into a COVID memorial.

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William Lewis  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:04:07pm

re: #120 Dangerman

So someone’s investigating

They better be. Anyone else releasing a 16 year old’s topless picture on Twitter would be in jail facing federal CP charges by now. Not saying it’s good bad or indifferent but that’s the current law and case law in the US.

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lawhawk  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:05:07pm

re: #130 Jack Burton

I’m keen on turning Bedminster into a national memorial to covid19 victims; the others should be sold for restitution to the victims’ families.

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EPR-radar  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:06:25pm

re: #128 retired cynic

That seems like something the younger set wouldn’t get.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:06:31pm
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William Lewis  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:06:56pm

re: #122 austin_blue

Re: Cloris Leachman and a quick look at her IMDB history:

She was born in 1926 in Des Moines, Iowa.

Her first mention in a movie was in “Carnegie Hall” in 1947. Her nest was in “Kiss me Deadly” in 1955. She made dozens of TV appearances before and after on pretty much every damned major serious drama production in TV in between, from Actor’s Studio, to Kraft Theater, to Alfred Hitchcock Presents.

She played June Martin, Timmy’s mom on Lassie, for 28 episodes in 1957 and 1958 until she was fired for not wanting to go on the road and flog Campbell’s Soup ( the shoe’s sponsor).

At the time of her death, she had two movies in Post Fucking Production.

That, my friends , is the definition of a working actress.

RIP.

I had never heard of “Kiss me, deadly” as a movie before today. So instead, I’ll remember her with what that made me think of instead:

Lita Ford - Kiss Me Deadly (Official Video)

I think she’d get a laugh.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:07:04pm
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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:08:23pm

re: #136 Dangerman

Just because they’re betting on black when you’re betting on red, that doesn’t mean you get to bitch when it lands on black 5 times in a row. Maybe you should just take your ball and go home.

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Jay C  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:10:02pm

re: #121 sagehen

She’s 85 years old. Perhaps it’s time she retire.

Past time.
It’s not like California lacks for a deep bench of Senate-qualified Democrats, anyway…..

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:11:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:12:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:13:19pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:15:28pm
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William Lewis  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:16:14pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is why I tolerate his lesser days; when it really counts, he’s there.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:18:25pm
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jaunte  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:18:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:18:42pm
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jaunte  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:19:39pm

re: #144 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

The person infected with P.1. had previously traveled to Brazil.

People still aren’t taking this thing seriously.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:20:04pm
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retired cynic  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:20:41pm

re: #148 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

That’s the way to do it!

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aatharuv  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:21:49pm

re: #145 jaunte

Donald Trump was acting like a Banana Republic Third World politician:
- looting the treasury for his clan’s benefit
- trying to keep power by legal and extra legal affairs
- keeping his cabinet stocked with yes men.
- Loved getting titles and accolades showered on him “Biggest effort”. Who doesn’t think he would have made himself General General Admiral if he could have.

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danarchy  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:22:15pm

re: #148 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Not for nothing, but I don’t think I would take an injection from random folks going car to car…

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lawhawk  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:24:26pm

Rep. Jimmy Gomez has introduced a resolution to expel Greene from Congress.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:24:58pm

This is real, but wait there’s more. Elvis wanted to be on the anti-drug task force. Your life is now complete.

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sagehen  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:25:53pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

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the mask has been on the lion for months; it’s featured in the Fallon opening credits.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:28:33pm

Trump appointee says Tuberville met with Trump family, advisers on eve of Capitol attack

Tuberville, through a spokeswoman, said he did not attend the meeting with Trump on the eve of the deadly attack

but there’s pix

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:29:17pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:29:23pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:29:59pm

🙏🏾

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:30:35pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:34:46pm

F unity.

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bratwurst  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:35:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:36:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:39:33pm
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stpaulbear  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:40:22pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

I hope Tim Kaine has gotten a ton of shit for even suggesting it as a ‘let’s get along’ measure.

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retired cynic  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:44:00pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m agreeing with Romney! My God!

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EPR-radar  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:46:06pm

re: #164 stpaulbear

I hope Tim Kaine has gotten a ton of shit for even suggesting it as a ‘let’s get along’ measure.

I expect shit like this from Collins because she is a goddamnrepublican, but Kaine is a former D VP nominee and should fucking know better.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:47:45pm

I’m guessing the roads are bad tonight:

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plansbandc  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:48:34pm

Wouldn’t it be nice if Romney really had the integrity he pretends to have?

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stpaulbear  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:51:14pm

re: #153 I Would Prefer Not To

This is real, but wait there’s more. Elvis wanted to be on the anti-drug task force. Your life is now complete.

[Embedded content]

And he got to be on the anti-drug team. They sent him a badge. He used the badge to enter a plane and drag someone off. It was an ex-employee who had stolen some stuff (including Polariods of Priscilla) before leaving town. His visit with Nixon is an amazing and funny story.

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EPR-radar  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:51:21pm

re: #168 plansbandc

Wouldn’t it be nice if Romney really had the integrity he pretends to have?

The sense I get is that Romney isn’t on board with the stupidity and violence of the Trumpers.

From his point of view he can get everything he wants with more traditional methods of GOP ratfucking.

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Jack Burton  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:51:31pm

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Don’t go puttin’ none of that stuff on my sled, Clark. You know that metal plate in my head? I had to have it replaced, cause every time Catherine revved up the microwave I’d piss my pants and forget who I was for a half hour or so. So over at the VA they had to replace it with plastic. It ain’t as strong so I don’t know if I should go sailin down no hill with nothing between the ground and my brains but a piece of government plastic.”

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Charles Johnson  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:56:45pm
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Dave In Austin  Jan 27, 2021 • 6:58:52pm

So Dr. Biden is going to spearhead the re-unification of children taken from their parents by Fat Donny. This works for me.

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:01:41pm
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stpaulbear  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:05:39pm

re: #171 Jack Burton

“Don’t go puttin’ none of that stuff on my sled, Clark. You know that metal plate in my head? I had to have it replaced, cause every time Catherine revved up the microwave I’d piss my pants and forget who I was for a half hour or so. So over at the VA they had to replace it with plastic. It ain’t as strong so I don’t know if I should go sailin down no hill with nothing between the ground and my brains but a piece of government plastic.”

When I was growing up, a local park had a metal spiral slide that used to be part of a factory’s fire escape. When my sisters and I went to the park, mom would give each of us a sheet of waxed paper that we would sit on while going down the slide. We had it so slick that kids would go shooting full speed off the end of the landing.

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:09:33pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:11:38pm

Could someone explanation this stock market manipulation thing to me using 3rd grade English because I have no idea what’s going on?

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Jack Burton  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:12:48pm

re: #174 jaunte

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The push to “regulate” here is more FYJIGM.

As if there haven’t been thousands of stocks manipulated to ridiculous surges before by assholes on Wall Street.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:14:06pm
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Teukka  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:14:39pm

re: #177 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Could someone explanation this stock market manipulation thing to me using 3rd grade English because I have no idea what’s going on?

You have this possibility on betting a certain stock, say $GME, to rise or fall, and to buy it at the value when it has risen or fallen. A lot of hedge fund managers bet on $GME falling, and r/WSB made it so that it instead rose, and rose painfully much, forcing hedge fund managers to buy at that cost. Cue:

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:17:08pm

Jimmy Gomez is my Congressman.

Props!

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:17:29pm
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austin_blue  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:20:22pm

re: #139 jaunte

This is not new in the Republican Party … This is the party of the Willie Horton ad.

<<>>

For you young un’s, the Willie Horton ad was trotted out in 1988, 32 fucking years ago.

We have been fighting overt Republican racist tropes, not dog whistles but screaming air raid sirens, for *over 30 years*.

(Edited for basic maths. See the post below, I had 42 years originally. I may have drunk scotch.)

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:22:17pm

re: #183 austin_blue

32 years ago. You scared me for a bit. But I get your point. Republicans haven’t changed their race baiting ways. They’ve gotten progressively worst.

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retired cynic  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:23:13pm

re: #184 Patricia Kayden

Over 40. Look at Reagan’s history, in 1979-80.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:23:14pm
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austin_blue  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:23:48pm

re: #184 Patricia Kayden

32 years ago. You scared me for a bit. But I get your point. Republicans haven’t changed their race baiting ways. They’ve gotten progressively worst.

Ack! I have lost the ability to do basic maths. I’ll edit it.

Thanks.

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teleskiguy  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:24:13pm

re: #183 austin_blue

For you young un’s, the Willie Horton ad was trotted out in 1988, 42 33 fucking years ago.

We have been fighting overt Republican racist tropes, not dog whistles but screaming air raid sirens, for *over 40 years*.

ftfy

In 1990, Jesse Helms put out this ad.

Jesse Helms “Hands” ad

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Decatur Deb  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:25:05pm

re: #175 stpaulbear

When I was growing up, a local park had a metal spiral slide that used to be part of a factory’s fire escape. When my sisters and I went to the park, mom would give each of us a sheet of waxed paper that we would sit on while going down the slide. We had it so slick that kids would go shooting full speed off the end of the landing.

The munitions plant where I worked had massive old-school slides so you could un-ass the building when the explosions started. Some of them were 3 stories high and would dump the lucky escapees a couple hundred feet from the supersonic blast front. We had no records of a successful use.

Abandoned slide (different plant):

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Jack Burton  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:25:07pm

re: #180 Teukka

You have this possibility on betting a certain stock, say $GME, to rise or fall, and to buy it at the value when it has risen or fallen. A lot of hedge fund managers bet on $GME falling, and r/WSB made it so that it instead rose, and rose painfully much, forcing hedge fund managers to buy at that cost. Cue:

[Embedded content]

Most hedge funds, if I remember correctly, are setup as 130/30, meaning 130% long, 30% short on the market or market sector they deal with. They play both ways as a “hedge” for massive losses.

They probably shorted the shit out of Gamestop because it seemed like COVID was likely pushing them out of business.

How shorting works is: Basically you borrow shares of a stock you think is going to go down from your broker, and sell them at the high price they are now. Later if it goes down you buy the shares back at a lower price and give them back to your broker. The price difference is your profit.

If the stock ends up going up, you lose money because you have to buy it at a higher price.

Apparently the share price was pushed up from around $18 to like $350 so these hedgefund managers are hosed.

They did the equivalent of buying it at $350/share and selling it at $18/share.

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Teukka  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:26:47pm

re: #190 Jack Burton

Most hedge funds, if I remember correctly, are setup as 130/30, meaning 130% long, 30% short on the market or market sector they deal with. They play both ways as a “hedge” for massive losses.

They probably shorted the shit out of Gamestop because it seemed like COVID was likely pushing them out of business.

How shorting works is: Basically you borrow shares of a stock you think is going to go down from your broker, and sell them at the high price they are now. Later if it goes down you buy the shares back at a lower price and give them back to your broker. The price difference is your profit.

If the stock ends up going up, you lose money because you have to buy it at a higher price.

Apparently the share price was pushed up from around $18 to like $350 so these hedgefund managers are hosed.

They did the equivalent of buying it at $350/share and selling it at $18/share.

So that explains the mass of hedge fund managers walking around NYC bow-leggedly… ///

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:29:00pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:30:11pm

re: #190 Jack Burton

Most hedge funds, if I remember correctly, are setup as 130/30, meaning 130% long, 30% short on the market or market sector they deal with. They play both ways as a “hedge” for massive losses.

They probably shorted the shit out of Gamestop because it seemed like COVID was likely pushing them out of business.

How shorting works is: Basically you borrow shares of a stock you think is going to go down from your broker, and sell them at the high price they are now. Later if it goes down you buy the shares back at a lower price and give them back to your broker. The price difference is your profit.

If the stock ends up going up, you lose money because you have to buy it at a higher price.

Apparently the share price was pushed up from around $18 to like $350 so these hedgefund managers are hosed.

They did the equivalent of buying it at $350/share and selling it at $18/share.

Dumb question… Who’s going to be out money once the price of GameStop stock tanks?

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:32:37pm
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EPR-radar  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:34:11pm

re: #193 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Dumb question… Who’s going to be out money once the price of GameStop stock tanks?

Everyone unlucky enough to have bought near the peak.

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Jack Burton  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:34:21pm

re: #193 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Dumb question… Who’s going to be out money once the price of GameStop stock tanks?

Well I’m assuming the people in the reddit group bought it en masse, as as it started going up lemmings jumped on, and they told people to buy, and those people told people to buy…. ala pyramid scheme. People who bought later and didn’t get out yet are the ones who will get screwed when reality comes for it.

So it’s good that some Wall Street assholes are getting punked, but those doing the punking will be screwing other people just like a pyramid scheme does as well.

So really, no one is a hero in this.

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jaunte  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:35:45pm

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austin_blue  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:39:54pm

re: #189 Decatur Deb

The munitions plant where I worked had massive old-school slides so you could un-ass the building when the explosions started. Some of them were 3 stories high and would dump the lucky escapees a couple hundred feet from the supersonic blast front. We had no records of a successful use.

Abandoned slide (different plant):

[Embedded content]

When I was working in the oil industry as a wellhead geologist, I would occasionally work drillings rigs on land (most of my work was offshore, which was very much my preference for numerous reasons).

On a land rig, there was a line that ran from the stack fingers near the top of the derrick (where you would stack 90’ sections of drill pipe when you needed to change a drill bit) that ran some 200 odd feet away from the rig. It was called the Geronimo line.

If there was a big kick or a blowout when you were tripping pipe to change out a bit, the Derrickman could put his escape wheel on the line and Squee!! to safety unless the gas bubble ignited and cooked him to a cinder before he was clear of all hell breaking loose.

I met one guy who had used it and lived. His back looked like Jamie Frazier’s.

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austin_blue  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:48:49pm

re: #193 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Dumb question… Who’s going to be out money once the price of GameStop stock tanks?

My understanding is that it depends on the end date of the short contract. If it’s January the 27th and you shorted the stock at $20 and the actual cost today was $200, you will owe $180 on every stock optioned. So if you optioned 100,000 stocks to short, you would lose $180,000,000 bongo buckaroos.

Again, scotch diminished math skills, here, please confirm my back of the envelope scribbles.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:50:01pm

re: #198 austin_blue

When I was working in the oil industry as a wellhead geologist, I would occasionally work drillings rigs on land (most of my work was offshore, which was very much my preference for numerous reasons).

On a land rig, there was a line that ran from the stack fingers near the top of the derrick (where you would stack 90’ sections of drill pipe when you needed to change a drill bit) that ran some 200 odd feet away from the rig. It was called the Geronimo line.

If there was a big kick or a blowout when you were tripping pipe to change out a bit, the Derrickman could put his escape wheel on the line and Squee!! to safety unless the gas bubble ignited and cooked him to a cinder before he was clear of all hell breaking loose.

I met one guy who had used it and lived. His back looked like Jamie Frazier’s.

In the Apollo era, NASA launch pads had a giant version of that. The cable hung in a catenary arc, so the upslope at the end decelerated the users.

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austin_blue  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:54:07pm

re: #200 Decatur Deb

In the Apollo era, NASA launch pads had a giant version of that. The cable hung in a catenary arc, so the upslope at the end decelerated the users.

In the oilfield, the escape wheel had a little thumb brake. Worked a treat.

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(((Archangel1)))  Jan 27, 2021 • 7:56:34pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 27, 2021 • 8:11:54pm

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