Seth Meyers: Federal Investigators Are Considering Sedition Charges for the Coup Attempt, and Examining Trump’s Role

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Seth takes a closer look at the former top prosecutor for the Capitol riots saying that evidence from the attack could support sedition charges as federal investigators continue to examine Trump’s role in fomenting the insurrection.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 22, 2021 • 6:27:57pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 22, 2021 • 6:38:32pm

Yay Tommy Tuberville!! Soon he won’t be the stupidest person in the Senate. Mo Brooks is running for Shelby’s seat.

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retired cynic  Mar 22, 2021 • 6:42:44pm

re: #2 Decatur Deb

We’re supposed to cheer?

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Decatur Deb  Mar 22, 2021 • 6:43:45pm

re: #3 retired cynic

We’re supposed to cheer?

Roy Moore is not out of the running.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 22, 2021 • 6:55:05pm
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Dave In Austin  Mar 22, 2021 • 6:59:16pm
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retired cynic  Mar 22, 2021 • 7:00:50pm

re: #6 Dave In Austin

They sound lovey!

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Dread Pirate Ron  Mar 22, 2021 • 7:01:37pm

I got the Moderna vaccine today and lost my internet. No discomfort or side effects in 8 hours.

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William Lewis  Mar 22, 2021 • 7:05:13pm

New toy.

I’ve had the old Canon 7 for a while and also have a ltm adaptor for my little Olympus digital but it’s really for when I get my grubbies on my inheritance and buy a Leica digital camera. I expect this lens to really shine for b&w landscapes.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Mar 22, 2021 • 7:10:51pm
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bratwurst  Mar 22, 2021 • 7:37:33pm

If you are looking for a pleasant distraction for the rest of your evening and have an extra $40, I would like to bring to your attention the final Todd Rundgren “virtual tour” performance starting at the top of the next hour.

Yes, I think that price is a BIT steep…but this is a re-creation of his live act circa 1989-91 with a big band on a soundstage with a professionally produced video presentation. I am a lifelong fan who has been critical of the numerous half-assed live appearances he has made in the 21st century. I have skipped more shows of his than I have seen in the last decade. However, this is a really good show that sounds terrific, especially after his voice warms up a bit.

You can check it out here. I had a near flawless streaming experience when I purchased a show 2 weeks ago.

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Jay C  Mar 22, 2021 • 7:42:15pm

re: #10 Dread Pirate Ron

BTW, Rep. Boebert* is going have to order another truckload of thoughts-and-prayers: I just read the latest news conference in Boulder upped the death toll from the King Soopers shooting to ten, including the one officer.

* who can take her trite sentiments and go vigorously fuck herself with them.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Mar 22, 2021 • 7:42:20pm

Just saw the Boulder PD presser. 10 dead, including a police officer. Shooter in custody. Pot- bellied white guy with a MAGA beard. Yeah, I know it’s stereotyping but, goddamn, enough is enough.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 22, 2021 • 7:42:24pm

re: #9 William Lewis

A Canon 7 with a Voigtlander lens, eh?

I have a pretty maxed out Olympus OM-D 10 Mk III, with an 8mm cap lens, 14-42mm kit lens, a Panasonic Linux 25mm f1.4 prime, a 75-150mm zoom, and a 100-300mm zoom.

Sad thing is I haven’t used it in a couple of years, and I’m thinking of selling the whole package.

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jaunte  Mar 22, 2021 • 7:43:18pm
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William Lewis  Mar 22, 2021 • 7:47:32pm

re: #13 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Just saw the Boulder PD presser. 10 dead, including a police officer. Shooter in custody. Pot- bellied white guy with a MAGA beard. Yeah, I know it’s stereotyping but, goddamn, enough is enough.

White guy so of course he’s in custody. < spit >

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Mar 22, 2021 • 7:47:49pm
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calochortus  Mar 22, 2021 • 7:48:42pm

re: #13 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Just saw the Boulder PD presser. 10 dead, including a police officer. Shooter in custody. Pot- bellied white guy with a MAGA beard. Yeah, I know it’s stereotyping but, goddamn, enough is enough.

Freepers are sure he’s a local liberal of some sort. Because Boulder.

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2021 • 7:49:33pm

re: #5 Patricia Kayden

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This does pose a problem. How do the (more) liberal news sources maintain viewers if we’re less into outrage than the Right? They have to keep viewers somehow.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Mar 22, 2021 • 7:49:49pm

No doubt we’ll see the Boulder shooter get another “mentally disturbed” defense from the right wing massacre lobby. Well, duh, of course he’s mentally disturbed but MAGA/Q/NRA propaganda is specifically designed, formulated if you will, to incite and weaponize the mentally disturbed.

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retired cynic  Mar 22, 2021 • 7:54:54pm

re: #17 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Mar 22, 2021 • 7:55:41pm

Btw, this Saddam-looking motherfucker is the one who ambushed the National Guard convoy in Texas this morning. There shouldn’t be enough of him left to fill a shoebox but he is safely in jail in Lubbock instead, thanks to the orders for the Guard to be unarmed.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 22, 2021 • 7:58:42pm

re: #19 Belafon

This does pose a problem. How do the (more) liberal news sources maintain viewers if we’re less into outrage than the Right? They have to keep viewers somehow.

At our weekly zoom meeting tonight, most talked about how they aren’t paying attention to the news these days because we now have a sane President who is not working overtime to outrage all those who don’t share his views. It’s also quiet because of the perhaps mistaken belief that the pandemic is finally being addressed and that we are now emerging into a potentially more normal environment.

But there was last week’s Atlanta spa shootings and today’s Boulder shooting. Let’s hope this is not a new trend where mass shootings are becoming more common.

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sagehen  Mar 22, 2021 • 7:59:03pm

re: #16 William Lewis

White guy so of course he’s in custody. < spit >

He just had a bad day, so this is what he did.

//

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jaunte  Mar 22, 2021 • 8:00:11pm
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DesertDenizen  Mar 22, 2021 • 8:05:19pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Btw, this Saddam-looking motherfucker is the one who ambushed the National Guard convoy in Texas this morning. There shouldn’t be enough of him left to fill a shoebox but he is safely in jail in Lubbock instead, thanks to the orders for the Guard to be unarmed.

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He’s from my neck of the woods. I’m surprised all he had was a 1911.

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William Lewis  Mar 22, 2021 • 8:06:39pm

re: #26 DesertDenizen

He’s from my neck of the woods. I’m surprised all he had was a 1911.

Probably thought he was Sgt York reincarnated…

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wrenchwench  Mar 22, 2021 • 8:09:19pm
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DodgerFan1988  Mar 22, 2021 • 8:17:37pm

All Fox News talk about every night is “illegals.”

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TedStriker  Mar 22, 2021 • 8:19:57pm

re: #27 William Lewis

Probably thought he was Sgt York reincarnated…

Sgt. Alvin York (a favorite son here in TN, especially in East TN out on the Cumberland Plateau, where he was from) would have probably beat the shit out of that guy.

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sagehen  Mar 22, 2021 • 8:22:44pm

You won’t be at all surprised how Andrew Sullivan reacted to the Atlanta shootings:

andrewsullivan.substack.com

When The Narrative Replaces The News
How the media grotesquely distorted the Atlanta massacres

and of course he’s put this column behind a subscribers-only paywall..

Sullivan then took aim at The New York Times and The Washington Post for their nonstop coverage depicting the Atlanta shootings as an anti-Asian hate crime with over two dozen stories combined. He also called out several others including, New York Times Magazine reporter Nikole Hannah-Jones, author Ibram Kendi, “Daily Show” host Trevor Noah for similarly jumping to conclusions.

“None of them mentioned that he killed two [W]hite people as well — a weird thing for a white supremacist to do — and injured a Latino. None pointed out that the connection between the spas was that the killer had visited them. None explained why, if he were associating Asian people with Covid19, he would nonetheless expose himself to the virus by having sex with them, or regard these spas as ‘safer’ than other ways to have quick sex,” the columnist said.

(snip)

The “Weekly Dish” columnist blasted the role of Critical Race Theory in the media’s narrative push, how the “only evidence” they need is to “check out the identity” victims and the culprit, adding “If the victims are [W]hite, they don’t really count. Everything in America is driven by white supremacist hate of some sort or other. You can jam any fact, any phenomenon, into this rubric in order to explain it.”

The Foxnews site has more extensive excerpts, with no paywall
foxnews.com
Andrew Sullivan blasts media for ‘grotesquely’ distorting Atlanta shootings to push hate crime ‘narrative’

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 22, 2021 • 8:23:09pm

re: #25 jaunte

After the Sandy Hook massacre, the response of a gun nut friend is seared in my memory: his only concern was that the tragedy would lead to limits on gun owners; he showed no compassion for those who lost their lives. Earlier Boebert did express the standard minimum GOP thoughts and prayers, but no one in the party has any interest in supporting serious measures to address this problem and prevent its constant recurrence. Virginia Tech failed to change minds, Sandy Hook failed, Las Vegas failed, Parkland failed — what, pray tell, will finally penetrate the brains of the ghouls who lead the GOP? Is there anything that will awaken in them a sense of decency or a desire to persuade their base that enough is finally enough? After all, gunowners don’t even care if their 2 year old kills another child or their parent — because it was an unforeseeable accident. Are we doomed to this endless cycle of death?

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TedStriker  Mar 22, 2021 • 8:25:12pm

re: #30 TedStriker

Fun fact about York: he founded a vocational school in the 1920s in his home county (Fentress) that still carries his name:

Alvin C. York established the school that carries his name during the 1920s in the county seat of his home county of Fentress. His goal was to give rural children the chance to obtain a high school education. Beginning in 1919 he toured the United States raising funds for the school, using his status as a war hero to get public attention and raising a total of $10,000.[3][4] He also solicited and received funds from the state legislature,[5] which contributed $50,000, and from Fentress County, which pledged $50,000.[4] Classes began in 1929 and the school operated privately until 1937,[5] when financial pressures related to the Great Depression led York to transfer the school to the state of Tennessee, which continues to operate it as a public school as a living memorial to York.

The school’s dedication reads:

To the end that my people of Pall Mall and of Fentress County and the boys and girls of this mountainous section may enjoy the liberating influences and educational advantages which were denied me, I dedicate this institution and my life to its perpetuation, and seek from the American people support in keeping with the great need.
— Sgt. Alvin C. York

Still, to this day, it is the only public high school in Tennessee directly run by the Tennessee Department of Education.

en.wikipedia.org

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 22, 2021 • 8:25:50pm

re: #31 sagehen

When it comes to that Tacky Tory Twit Sullivan it’s what I expect that snob to write.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Mar 22, 2021 • 8:26:13pm

re: #29 DodgerFan1988

Foreign Owned Xenophobia

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DesertDenizen  Mar 22, 2021 • 8:27:41pm

re: #32 Hecuba’s daughter

After the Sandy Hook massacre, the response of a gun nut friend is seared in my memory: his only concern was that the tragedy would lead to limits on gun owners; he showed no compassion for those who lost their lives. Boebert did express the standard minimum GOP thoughts and prayers, but no one in the party has any interest in supporting serious measures to address this problem and prevent its constant recurrence. Virginia Tech failed to change minds, Sandy Hook failed, Las Vegas failed, Parkland failed — what, pray tell, will finally penetrate the brains of the ghouls who lead the GOP? Is there anything that will awaken in them a sense of decency or a desire to persuade their base that enough is finally enough? After all, gunowners don’t even care if their 2 year old kills another child or their parent — because it was an unforeseeable accident. Are we doomed to this endless cycle of death?

Lack of compassion is one of the two hallmarks of modern conservatism.

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2021 • 8:27:44pm

We’re having a nice little storm pass through, this being the end of a third wave. The line grew in width as it got closer:

Storms
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 22, 2021 • 8:31:17pm

re: #37 Belafon

We’re having a nice little storm pass through, this being the end of a third wave. The line grew in width as it got closer:

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BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
Tornado Warning
National Weather Service Austin/San Antonio TX
1026 PM CDT Mon Mar 22 2021

The National Weather Service in Austin San Antonio has issued a

* Tornado Warning for…
Central Williamson County in south central Texas…

* Until 1115 PM CDT.

* At 1025 PM CDT, a severe thunderstorm capable of producing a
tornado was located near Sun City, or near Serenada, moving east at
40 mph.

HAZARD…Tornado and golf ball size hail.

SOURCE…Radar indicated rotation.

IMPACT…Flying debris will be dangerous to those caught without
shelter. Mobile homes will be damaged or destroyed.
Damage to roofs, windows, and vehicles will occur. Tree
damage is likely.

* Locations impacted include…
Georgetown, Taylor, Granger, Serenada, Leander, Bartlett, Liberty
Hill, Jarrell, Weir, Georgetown Dam, Sun City, Granger Dam, Andice,
Theon, Laneport, Hoxie, Waterloo, Hare, Walburg and Schwertner.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS…

TAKE COVER NOW! Move to a basement or an interior room on the lowest
floor of a sturdy building. Avoid windows. If you are outdoors, in a
mobile home, or in a vehicle, move to the closest substantial shelter
and protect yourself from flying debris.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 22, 2021 • 8:36:31pm

I just got in from raising the flags after the last mass-murder when the news of another one was coming in.

If President Biden ordered the flags to half-staff every time there was a mass-murder in the country, the flag would never fly at full-staff.

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2021 • 8:38:33pm

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I just got in from raising the flags after the last mass-murder when the news of another one was coming in.

If President Biden ordered the flags to half-staff every time there was a mass-murder in the country, the flag would never fly at full-staff.

Probably needs to be that way.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 22, 2021 • 8:41:12pm

The addition of the ‘tube cam’ was much needed.
And, someone needs test that dog for PEDs

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 22, 2021 • 8:41:44pm

Polish writer Jakub Zulczyk charged for calling President Duda a ‘moron’ (BBC)

Conservatives will seek to limit free speech, no matter which country they rule.

A popular Polish writer and journalist could face up to three years in prison for calling President Andrzej Duda a “moron” in a Facebook post in November.

Jakub Zulczyk accused Mr Duda of failing to understand the US electoral process in a tweet to Joe Biden.

Mr Duda’s tweet stopped short of recognising his victory, pending Electoral College confirmation, but hailed his “successful campaign”.

Poland has made it a crime to insult state leaders and religion.

Following US media reports of a presidential victory for Mr Biden on 7 November, President Duda tweeted: “Congratulations to Joe Biden for a successful presidential campaign.

“As we await the nomination by the Electoral College, Poland is determined to upkeep high-level and high-quality PL-US strategic partnership for an even stronger alliance.”

Referring to the tweet in a Facebook post, Mr Zulczyk wrote that he had studied US politics with a keen interest, and that he had “never heard of such a thing as Electoral College nomination”.

“Joe Biden is the 46th president of the USA,” he wrote, adding: “Andrzej Duda is a moron.”

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:10:59pm

New South Wales is receiving historic amounts of rainfall in the same area where last year they had historic bushfires.

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:12:13pm

OOPS! another Pulpit Pimp got caught doing something naughty with Mr. Ding Dong!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:16:17pm

re: #44 🌹UOJB!

OOPS! another Pulpit Pimp got caught doing something naughty with Mr. Ding Dong!

Remember that whole controversy last year involving Pastor John Ortberg? The leader of Menlo Church in California resigned in July after it became public knowledge that he allowed a volunteer who admitted an “attraction to minors” to work with children.

Ortberg failed to take action in part because the warnings came from his estranged transgender son… and because the volunteer was his other son. While there were thankfully no reported incidents with the volunteer, it was truly disturbing that he was allowed to travel with children during overnight trips, including unsupervised ones. It was a clear reminder that this church’s oversight ability was a problem.

Now there’s another incident involving the same megachurch.

Menlo Church has a branch in Mountain View and they posted a message for members over the weekend saying that worship director Michael Bryce Jr. has been fired after past misconduct came to light.

(more at Friendly Atheist)

Controversial CA Megachurch Fires Pastor Over “Inappropriate Behavior Online”

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:21:10pm

OK! Here is a puzzle for you to solve!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:22:22pm

A “megachurch” is generally defined as a church which can hold two thousand or more people. The concept of megachurches started in the mid XIX Century. The first Evangelical megachurch was built in London in 1861.

In the United States, the first Evangelical megachurch was the Angelus Temple built by Amiee Semple (which included a radio station to broadcast her sermons across the country).

Three thousand Roman Catholic parishes have churches which hold more than two thousand people around the world.

The total number of Christians who attend megachurches in the USA exceeds fifty percent.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:23:34pm

re: #46 🌹UOJB!

OK! Here is a puzzle for you to solve!

LOL

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:26:59pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Then Pulpit Pimp Paul Risser got into the Presidency of the Church of the Foursquare Gospel, he fired the long time pastor at Angeles Temple, drove away most of the Asian, African-American and Hispanic church members and brought in a flashy Pulpit Pimp and a brass band.

Oh and Risser sold the radio station, too.

As for the long time pastor of Angeles Temple, he wound up homeless.

Risser finally went too far when he got involved in a pyramid scheme using the denomination’s pension fund. His partners drained the fund dry and ol Risser got the boot…until he begged for forgiveness and the fools took him back into the mini$try!

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:27:54pm

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:28:52pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Fixed. The RCC number is churches around the world, not just the USA.

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sagehen  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:28:53pm

re: #46 🌹UOJB!

OK! Here is a puzzle for you to solve!

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not possible, because they’re all odd numbers. 3 odd numbers can’t add up to an even number.

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Targetpractice  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:28:59pm

re: #46 🌹UOJB!

OK! Here is a puzzle for you to solve!

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Brain.exe has stopped working. Abort, Retry, Fail?

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Secret ANTIFA Operative  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:30:09pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Her equally shitty husband’s website had a “China Virus” tab.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:31:52pm

re: #52 sagehen

not possible, because they’re all odd numbers. 3 odd numbers can’t add up to an even number.

Totally possible, just have to know the game

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:32:48pm

re: #46 🌹UOJB!

OK! Here is a puzzle for you to solve!

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Took me a bit, haven’t played pool in years

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jamesfirecat  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:36:21pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Totally possible, just have to know the game

Explain, even if behind a comment.

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:40:21pm

re: #46 🌹UOJB!

OK! Here is a puzzle for you to solve!

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You can’t from the ones pictured.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:40:36pm

re: #57 jamesfirecat

Explain, even if behind a comment.

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:41:59pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Totally possible, just have to know the game

Don’t know anything about whatever rules it’s talking about.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:43:33pm

re: #46 🌹UOJB!

OK! Here is a puzzle for you to solve!

Can I post this as a hint?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:44:20pm

re: #58 Belafon

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:49:59pm

re: #49 🌹UOJB!

American Pseudochristians involved in a pyramid scheme you say?

I’m shocked…. SHOCKED I SAY!

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:52:40pm
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mmmirele  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:55:42pm

re: #31 sagehen

Andrew Sullivan blasts media for ‘grotesquely’ distorting Atlanta shootings to push hate crime ‘narrative’

Fuck that guy. He’d absolutely HATE my narrative, which is that this is one of the fruits of White Christian Nationalism, a toxic mix of racism, sexism, Evangelical weirdness about sex, and patriarchy.

IOW, he picked this shit up at home and at church. They told him he was a loathsome worm because he kept sinning, he went to a halfway house for “sex addiction” instead of getting properly checked out by a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist, his parents tossed him out of the house and gee…not that ANY of this should lead to eight people dead, but it did.

He’s the one who did it, but if he hadn’t had been eating the toxic stew of White Christian Nationalism, maybe it wouldn’t have happened.

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Targetpractice  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:56:57pm

re: #64 Ace-o-aces

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Glenn is shocked, SHOCKED to find out that Repubs only cares about Silicon Valley’s monopoly when it inconveniences them.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 22, 2021 • 9:59:17pm

re: #31 sagehen

You won’t be at all surprised how Andrew Sullivan reacted to the Atlanta shootings:

andrewsullivan.substack.com

When The Narrative Replaces The News
How the media grotesquely distorted the Atlanta massacres

Not surprised. I remember when Andrew went to great lengths to deny that Matthew Shepard’s killing had anything to do with homophobia.

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Targetpractice  Mar 22, 2021 • 10:00:28pm

Repubs don’t care about monopolies, they actually love monopolies because businesses like those have more money to give in “campaign donations.”

What they hate is when those same monopolies listen to their customers and start taking action to rein in hate, bigotry, and racism.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Mar 22, 2021 • 10:10:04pm

re: #64 Ace-o-aces

Green Greenwald is a synonym for “bad faith argument” himself.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 22, 2021 • 10:20:59pm

re: #67 Ace-o-aces

Not surprised. I remember when Andrew went to great lengths to deny that Matthew Shepard’s killing had anything to do with homophobia.

Related:

Wyoming shelves hate crime law decades after Shepard’s death (Associated Press, March 12, 2021)

CHEYENNE, Wyo. (AP) — Lawmakers in Wyoming, where gay college student Matthew Shepard was killed more than 20 years ago, again decided not to adopt a hate crimes law.

Wyoming is one of just three states that haven’t enacted hate crimes legislation since Shepard was beaten and left for dead in Laramie in 1998. The killing of the University of Wyoming student inspired those laws in other states and at the federal level.

A measure tabled Thursday by the Wyoming House Judiciary Committee would have allowed prosecutors to consider a criminal’s biases against race, sex, gender, religion, sexual orientation, national origin, ethnicity or disabilities when seeking punishment for crimes.

The legislation sponsored by Republican Rep. Pat Sweeney of Casper also would have provided for anti-bias training for law enforcement officers to help them identify and respond to hate crimes.

Most public testimony Thursday was in support of the bill, the Casper Star-Tribune reported. Others said the bill went too far or not far enough to discourage hate crimes.

Arkansas and South Carolina are considering hate crimes legislation this year, though lawmakers removed protections for gay or transgender people from the South Carolina bill Thursday.

All previous attempts to pass a hate crimes bill in Wyoming have failed.

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 22, 2021 • 10:24:34pm

re: #65 mmmirele

Andrew Sullivan blasts media for ‘grotesquely’ distorting Atlanta shootings to push hate crime ‘narrative’

Fuck that guy. He’d absolutely HATE my narrative, which is that this is one of the fruits of White Christian Nationalism, a toxic mix of racism, sexism, Evangelical weirdness about sex, and patriarchy.

IOW, he picked this shit up at home and at church. They told him he was a loathsome worm because he kept sinning, he went to a halfway house for “sex addiction” instead of getting properly checked out by a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist, his parents tossed him out of the house and gee…not that ANY of this should lead to eight people dead, but it did.

He’s the one who did it, but if he hadn’t had been eating the toxic stew of White Christian Nationalism, maybe it wouldn’t have happened.

Of course The Tory Twit downplays the racist implications because he STILL believes the Bell Curve shit that the White Race is genetically superior to all others.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 22, 2021 • 10:25:33pm

Speaking of megachurches and hiding vaccination:

Pastor Who Said the True Vaccine Was “Jesus Christ” Now Admits He Got His Shots (Friendly Atheist)

The pastor would be John Hagee, who came down with Covid-19 last year.

In a statement to ABC News, his staff “clarified” his comments:

Hagee Ministries later clarified Hagee’s comments, saying in a statement to ABC News that the pastor’s words were taken out of context.

“Pastor Hagee himself is taking the vaccine,” said Hagee Ministries spokesperson Ari Morgenstern. “Pastor Hagee believes in both the power of prayer and modern medicine. These are not mutually exclusive.”

His words weren’t taken out of context. And those things are mutually exclusive. You’ll be just fine with the vaccine and no prayer. You will not be fine with prayer and no vaccine.

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 22, 2021 • 10:29:25pm

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Speaking of megachurches and hiding vaccination:

Pastor Who Said the True Vaccine Was “Jesus Christ” Now Admits He Got His Shots (Friendly Atheist)

The pastor would be John Hagee, who came down with Covid-19 last year.

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That asshole is on record saying that every Jew must return to Israel for Armageddon to begin. And at the end of the battle, all Jews are slaughtered except for 144,000 male virgins who will convert to Xtianity.

Hagee wants to finish what Hitler started.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 22, 2021 • 10:32:18pm
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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Mar 22, 2021 • 10:37:40pm

re: #74 Ace-o-aces

Stop playing the national anthem at corporate sports events.

They aren’t representing the people or the nation, and we aren’t sending dough boys to France to slay the Huns anymore.

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Targetpractice  Mar 22, 2021 • 10:42:02pm

re: #71 🌹UOJB!

Of course The Tory Twit downplays the racist implications because he STILL believes the Bell Curve shit that the White Race is genetically superior to all others.

Sully’s whole bit these days is he gets more attention for being a contrarian asshole than he would if he were “just another liberal pundit.” So when most pundits are in agreement that there was a racial element to these shootings, he instead decides to put himself out there as the guy who Faux will talk about and invite on their shows to declare that the media are wrong to say a white guy can be racist.

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 22, 2021 • 10:42:17pm

re: #74 Ace-o-aces

Sorbo would sing another tune if he was black…or maybe be another Tim Scott or Burgess Owens…

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Mar 22, 2021 • 11:02:16pm

re: #77 🌹UOJB!

Sorbo would sing another tune if he was black…or maybe be another Tim Scott or Burgess Owens…

He’s throwing anything at the wall to get the wingnuts to notice him. The only jobs Sorbo can get now are completely low-end Wingnut welfare.

Casting calls are like that John Mulaney joke about police line ups:

“Is… is that Dean Cain?”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 22, 2021 • 11:25:35pm

re: #75 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Stop playing the national anthem at corporate sports events.

They aren’t representing the people or the nation, and we aren’t sending dough boys to France to slay the Huns anymore.

Senate Bill 12: Could the National Anthem soon be required in public schools? (WAFF-TV, Huntsville, Ala.)

State-mandated patriotism bill.

HUNTSVILLE, Ala. (WAFF) - If passed, Senate Bill 12 would require public schools to play the National Anthem during the school week and before all athletic events.

The bill’s sponsor, Alabama Senator Gerald Allen, said the idea for this bill started after he was a spectator at his grandchild’s games at school.

“I was at a sporting event, watching my granddaughter play one evening at a volleyball tournament,” Senator Allen said. “I got to thinking about, ‘When are they going to play the National Anthem?’. That wasn’t played.”

This sparked Senate Bill 12.

If passed, this bill would require all K-12 public schools to play the Star-Spangled Banner during school sanctioned sporting events and at least once per week during school hours.

An exception would be if a school has more than two sporting events on the same day. Then schools will only be required to play the anthem once.

“Men and women through the ages have given their lives to protect and defend this great country, and it’s just fitting to let those students here that National Anthem,” Senator Allen said.

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‘Cause that will work real well at a school-sponsored golf match, tennis match, debate tournament, track and field meet, &c.

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(((Archangel1)))  Mar 22, 2021 • 11:34:40pm

re: #46 🌹UOJB!

OK! Here is a puzzle for you to solve!

[Embedded content]

Oof, this took me longer than I’d care to admit. Been ages since I played though, pandemic notwithstanding…

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Targetpractice  Mar 22, 2021 • 11:43:13pm

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Senate Bill 12: Could the National Anthem soon be required in public schools? (WAFF-TV, Huntsville, Ala.)

State-mandated patriotism bill.

(more)

‘Cause that will work real well at a school-sponsored golf match, tennis match, debate tournament, track and field meet, &c.

This is going to cause all sorts of confusion in Alabama since schools won’t know if they’re supposed to play The Star Spangled Banner or Dixie.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 23, 2021 • 12:22:07am

re: #81 Targetpractice

This is going to cause all sorts of confusion in Alabama since schools won’t know if they’re supposed to play The Star Spangled Banner or Dixie.

It’s conservative performance art. They need culture wars to prevent their voters from catching on to the idea conservatives only care about power and the money that gets them power.

This bit from the article:

“Men and women through the ages have given their lives to protect and defend this great country, and it’s just fitting to let those students here that National Anthem,” Senator Allen said.

a) Throughout the ages?
b) Who’s prohibiting students from hearing the National Anthem?
c) How about you get on with education in a school rather than performative patriotism by a captive audience?

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(((Archangel1)))  Mar 23, 2021 • 12:31:47am

Yes, I have dreamed of donuts.
So would you if the nearest DD branch was over several thousand miles away… xD

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 23, 2021 • 12:46:34am

re: #83 (((Archangel1)))

Yes, I have dreamed of donuts.
So would you if the nearest DD branch was over several thousand miles away… xD

According to the Dunkin’ Donuts shop locator, there are none in the Nebraska Panhandle.
Krispy Kreme’s Website overrides my Zip Code input and defaults to a location in Springfield, Missouri (I presume it’s getting that from my ISP and the search function doesn’t work right). According to their national map the nearest one to me is Thornton, Colorado (two hundred miles).

The nearest doughnut shop is Daylight Donuts in Gering (about fifty miles).

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Targetpractice  Mar 23, 2021 • 12:46:48am

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It’s conservative performance art. They need culture wars to prevent their voters from catching on to the idea conservatives only care about power and the money that gets them power.

This bit from the article:

a) Throughout the ages?
b) Who’s prohibiting students from hearing the National Anthem?
c) How about you get on with education in a school rather than performative patriotism by a captive audience?

This really goes to show the power of Cold War-era historical revisionism in this country. There was no national anthem before 1931 and it didn’t become commonplace to play it before games before WWII. In other words, generations of Americans marched off to war before the damned song was even recognized as anything other than a poem sung to the tune of a British drinking song.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 12:48:21am

re: #13 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Just saw the Boulder PD presser. 10 dead, including a police officer. Shooter in custody. Pot- bellied white guy with a MAGA beard. Yeah, I know it’s stereotyping but, goddamn, enough is enough.

Recovering sex addict?

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ericblair  Mar 23, 2021 • 12:49:30am

Also, “You have political representation! You can put up a yard sign!”

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ckkatz  Mar 23, 2021 • 12:49:50am

re: #83 (((Archangel1)))

IIRC, you are Scotland?

Google shows Dunkin Donuts near Leeds as well as Sheffield and Krispy Kreme near Nottingham. In Israel, I think that the chain pulled out around the turn of the century.

Edited to add, via google:

Krispy Kreme Edinburgh
Hermiston Gait Retail Park
Address: Lothian, Hermiston Gait, 16 Lochside Ave,
Edinburgh EH12 9DJ, United Kingdom

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 23, 2021 • 12:50:07am

Funny Daylight Donuts story:

When my wife and I lived in Ponca City, Oklahoma, there was a Daylight Donuts shop downtown. It was only open from 3 to 4 AM.

My wife wandered in one morning about 3:30 AM and sat down at one of the tables; they acted like we were insane (but they did sell us some doughnuts, though they had no beverages).

It makes me think the place was a front for something and not an actual doughnut shop.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 12:52:12am

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Polish writer Jakub Zulczyk charged for calling President Duda a ‘moron’ (BBC)

They should charge him for “revealing government secrets”.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 23, 2021 • 12:54:07am

re: #87 ericblair

Because yard signs equal representation in Congress.

I’m sure Delegate Elanor Holmes Norton would like to educate the guy.

If conservatives didn’t have bad-faith arguments, they would have no arguments at all.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 23, 2021 • 12:55:26am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They should charge him for “revealing government secrets”.

My wife told me earlier seeing how Poland’s Law and Justice Party are cracking down against religious freedom (including passing a blasphemy law), she’s glad we went to Poland when we did.

She doesn’t think she’d do well in a Polish jail.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 23, 2021 • 12:56:22am

re: #86 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Recovering sex addict?

Could be an insulin problem.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Mar 23, 2021 • 12:57:57am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They should charge him for “revealing government secrets”.

“But your honor, it wasn’t a secret!”

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Mar 23, 2021 • 12:58:43am

Hilarious string.

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ckkatz  Mar 23, 2021 • 1:02:03am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They should charge him for “revealing government secrets”.

Hah! A blast from the past, the old Soviet era humor:

A man on Red Square shouts, ‘Brezhnev is an idiot!’
He gets sentenced to 15 years: five years for insulting the Soviet leader, and 10 years for betraying a state secret.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 1:06:07am

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Funny Daylight Donuts story:

When my wife and I lived in Ponca City, Oklahoma, there was a Daylight Donuts shop downtown. It was only open from 3 to 4 AM.

My wife wandered in one morning about 3:30 AM and sat down at one of the tables; they acted like we were insane (but they did sell us some doughnuts, though they had no beverages).

It makes me think the place was a front for something and not an actual doughnut shop.

I lived near a döner kebab shop in Langen that was like that. Really lame, and there was almost nobody there any time I went to visit, which was only when it was late or I had nothing at home to fix.

Which was in itself a good thing. I love döner kebab and would have eaten there a lot more often, I assume it was just a money-laundering front.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 1:07:27am

re: #92 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My wife told me earlier seeing how Poland’s Law and Justice Party are cracking down against religious freedom (including passing a blasphemy law), she’s glad we went to Poland when we did.

She doesn’t think she’d do well in a Polish jail.

Yeah, we visited Krakow in 2016 and I am glad we did. There was already a very religious-conservative/nationalist undercurrent that has since really become prevalent.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 1:09:45am

re: #96 ckkatz

Hah! A blast from the past, the old Soviet era humor:

A man on Red Square shouts, ‘Brezhnev is an idiot!’
He gets sentenced to 15 years: five years for insulting the Soviet leader, and 10 years for betraying a state secret.

yes, I just reworked that old chestnut.

My favorite was Brezhnev getting up to read the opening speech to the 1980 Moscow Olympics. He starts in: “Oh - oh - oh - oh…” until an aide interrupts him and whispers in his ear, “Chairman, you are reading the Olympic symbol!”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 23, 2021 • 1:13:26am

And now for some 1970 music for your next drug-induced altered state:

Pharaoh’s Dance (Audio)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 23, 2021 • 1:16:01am

re: #87 ericblair

Here we go again in the comments:

Fuque all you liberals who live in rural areas. You deserve what you get in “flyover country.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 23, 2021 • 1:23:46am

Early Dean is the best Dean:

Dean Martin - Powder Your Face with Sunshine [1948]



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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 23, 2021 • 1:27:31am

DENVER - Governor Jared Polis released the following statement on the Boulder shooting:

“My heart is breaking as we watch this unspeakable event unfold in our Boulder community. We are making every public safety resource available to assist the Boulder County Sheriff’s Department as they work to secure the store. I’m incredibly grateful to the brave men and women who have responded to the scene to help the victims of this senseless tragedy. This is very much an active situation and we continue to monitor very closely. We ask for your patience as law enforcement works tirelessly to secure the site. Right now, the biggest priority is to let local law enforcement and the City of Boulder do their work to ensure the safety of those involved.”

colorado.gov

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ckkatz  Mar 23, 2021 • 1:34:53am

re: #99 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

yes, I just reworked that old chestnut.

My favorite was Brezhnev getting up to read the opening speech to the 1980 Moscow Olympics. He starts in: “Oh - oh - oh - oh…” until an aide interrupts him and whispers in his ear, “Chairman, you are reading the Olympic symbol!”

I am guessing that a lot of old contextual humor is going to be lost as we old geezers pass on.

The one I remember:
Why is our (Soviet) government not in a hurry to land men on the moon?
What if they refuse to return?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 23, 2021 • 1:36:00am

The Brussels Times

Jehovah’s Witnesses given €12,000 fine for incitement to hatred against ex-members

The Jehovah’s Witnesses in Belgium must pay a €12,000 fine for the systematic and “disturbing” exclusion of ex-members who have left the organisation, the Ghent correctional court ruled on Tuesday.

The court ruled that the non-profit association behind Jehovah’s Witnesses is guilty of inciting discrimination and hatred or violence against former members, reports the Belga news agency.

“The Jehovah’s Witnesses’ shunning policy cuts to the very core of relationships, and the victims suffer both physical and psychological consequences,” one of the lawyers of the civil parties said during the trial last month.

In 2015, an ex-member took the organisation to the Ghent public prosecutor’s office for slander and defamation, insults and violation of the discrimination law.

He claimed that once the members had left the group, they were disowned and completely isolated socially, by order of the organisation.

The Ghent public prosecutor’s office summoned the Jehovah’s Witnesses for four charges: incitement to discrimination on the basis of religious belief against a person, and against a group, as well as incitement to hatred or violence against a person, and against a group.

(more)

Though many churches shun former members, up to and including throwing children out on the street, the JWs are extreme even by that measure.

The plaintiffs say they intend to go on to the European Court for an EU-wide ruling.

The JWs claim the state is interfering with their religious rights.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 23, 2021 • 1:42:17am

re: #104 ckkatz

I am guessing that a lot of old contextual humor is going to be lost as we old geezers pass on.

The one I remember:
Why is our (Soviet) government not in a hurry to land men on the moon?
What if they refuse to return?

One joke I recall:

An American diplomat and a Soviet diplomat were walking through Gorky Park one fine day, discussing the relative merits of each other’s systems. The American diplomat said, “The great thing about the American system is that a citizen, with an appointment of course, can walk into the Oval Office and say, ‘Mr. President, I don’t like the way you’re running this country”’”

The Soviet diplomat said, “Really it’s not all that different here, to be frank. Any Soviet citizen can, with an appointment, as in America, walk into the office of the General Secretary and say, ‘Comrade General Secretary, I don’t like the way the American President is running his country!’”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 1:44:34am

re: #104 ckkatz

I am guessing that a lot of old contextual humor is going to be lost as we old geezers pass on.

The one I remember:
Why is our (Soviet) government not in a hurry to land men on the moon?
What if they refuse to return?

and all the East German jokes, especially involving that odd auto they used to produce out of fiberglass with a two-stroke three-cylinder motor, the Trabant

Did you hear about the accident involving two Trabants and 37 dead?

-Three were killed in the accident and 37 while fighting to salvage spare parts!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 23, 2021 • 1:47:21am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and all the East German jokes, especially involving that odd auto they used to produce out of fiberglass with a two-stroke three-cylinder motor, the Trabant

Did you hear about the accident involving two Trabants and 37 dead?

-Three were killed in the accident and 37 while fighting to salvage spare parts!

Now Germany makes three-cylinder engines (but four strokes) which are even smaller (Smarts).

The salvaging parts bit is pretty funny.

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ckkatz  Mar 23, 2021 • 1:55:15am

Ha!

Just about the last joke I remember from 40 years ago:

A man walks into a shop. He asks the clerk, “You don’t have any meat?”
The clerk says, “No, here we don’t have any fish. The shop that doesn’t have any meat is across the street.”

I have a cousin (originally from Michigan) who lives in Hamburg. She used to talk about the Trabi’s when the wall came down. And how underpowered and overpolluting they were.

These days we talk about various different Germanic languages and dialects. I do not speak any German-based languages beyond the American dialect of English. But am curious about her perceptions of the various dialects. Including Pennsylvania, Texas and Kansas German. Since we have Swiss-German ancestry, it is also interesting to get her thoughts on some of the various Swiss-German dialects.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 2:13:09am

re: #109 ckkatz

The German version of Hogan’s Heroes (yes, they have one, it is called Ein Käfig voller Helden “A Cage Full of Heroes”) is brilliant, as it has Schlutz speaking Bavarian and Klink speaking Saxon, the language associated with East German border guards.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 23, 2021 • 2:16:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 2:17:39am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Right-wing pastor Jack Hibbs thinks he knows what is behind transgenderism and support for trans rights: “Demonism. I believe it’s satanic.”

must really raise your hackles, eh?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 2:19:17am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 23, 2021 • 2:35:03am

re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

must really raise your hackles, eh?

Transgender people get to join us folks with epilepsy.

Come on in, the water full of demons is fine!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 2:39:37am

re: #114 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Transgender people get to join us folks with epilepsy.

Come on in, the water full of demons is fine!

I remember when the Campus Crusade for Christ people were active in our dorm at Arizona State University. I even went along to a meeting. Somebody there commented to the loud rock music blaring from another room that it was “devil music”.

That was the last time I had anything to do with the CCC. If you wanna believe in angels & demons then I got no reason to continue talking to you.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 23, 2021 • 2:39:53am

In the categories Bizarre, WTF, and LOL:

Food critic reviews Peeps’ new Hot Tamales and Fruit Loops flavors (Newsday)

“PEEPS® is back and better than ever!” cried a news release announcing the triumphant return of the candy world’s answer to spray foam insulation, minus the annoying fossil-fuel aftertaste. Owing to the pandemic, the Pennsylvania factory that makes them abruptly closed last March, severely disrupting the Peeps global supply chain, which is why you saw no blobby ghosts at Halloween, no spongy kelly green Christmas trees.

After a period in which nary a peep was heard from the company, the chick-squirting machines resumed production in time for the Easter rush, whereupon Peeps came under attack from PETA for, I assumed, the company’s inhumane overcrowding of bunnies under cellophane. Nope. The marshmallow creations are made with gelatin derived from pigs, which is to say that — cruel irony alert — the bodies of real animals are being boiled in order to create fake ones. At a company named Just Born.

PETA hoped the pandemic would lead a chastened Peepstate to mend its ways. Nope again. Just Born pivoted instead to franchise expansion. Not having strolled down the candy aisle recently, I expected to see only Peeps of old, boxes of pastel-colored chicks with beady brown eyes made of carnauba wax. (Yes, there’s some in your garage.) For decades, bunnies of similar import stood shoulder-to-shoulder with military precision, their identical blank faces a silent commentary on the evils of groupthink, silent because they have no mouths. These dystopian, “Handmaid’s Tale” harsh-mallows maintained their iron grip till the early years of this century, when flavors like strawberry and vanilla Peeps appeared, paving the way for bunnies and chicks to self-identify as root beer, blue raspberry, cotton candy, fruit punch, etc.

This season’s two new offerings, Hot Tamales Peeps (little red candy version) and Fruit Loops-flavored pops, featuring four Peeps impaled on a single stick, represent supermarket synergy at its finest. Elsewhere in the store, Peeps can now be found in other companies’ cookies, cereal and coffee creamer, all of which suggests that some of America’s favorite processed foods are mating in the aisles after closing time at Stop ‘N Shop.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 23, 2021 • 2:48:44am

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

In the categories Bizarre, WTF, and LOL:

Food critic reviews Peeps’ new Hot Tamales and Fruit Loops flavors (Newsday)

(more)

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ericblair  Mar 23, 2021 • 2:50:13am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 23, 2021 • 2:54:29am

re: #117 Dr Lizardo

I feel I achieved the next level at LGF: No one ever used the NO sprayer on me before. /s

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Nojay UK  Mar 23, 2021 • 2:56:12am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and all the East German jokes, especially involving that odd auto they used to produce out of fiberglass with a two-stroke three-cylinder motor, the Trabant

Just after the breakup of the Warsaw Pact someone ran a Trabant in the Monte Carlo rally and didn’t come last in their category — IIRC they came 92nd out of 96 and they completed the course.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 2:56:48am

re: #120 Nojay UK

Just after the breakup of the Warsaw Pact someone ran a Trabant in the Monte Carlo rally and didn’t come last in their category — IIRC they came 92nd out of 96 and they completed the course.

The Eddie the Eagle of motor racing…

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 23, 2021 • 3:01:47am

re: #120 Nojay UK

Just after the breakup of the Warsaw Pact someone ran a Trabant in the Monte Carlo rally and didn’t come last in their category — IIRC they came 92nd out of 96 and they completed the course.

Trabants are becoming quite expensive here in Czech Republic - they’re a sought-after collector’s item. When I first arrived here back in the summer of 2001, I could’ve easily picked up a Trabant (in very good condition, mind you) for less than $300.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 3:02:58am

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

Trabants are becoming quite expensive here in Czech Republic - they’re a sought-after collector’s item. When I first arrived here back in the summer of 2001, I could’ve easily picked up a Trabant (in very good condition, mind you) for less than $300.

Their cult status also grew after appearing on the cover of U2’s Achtung, Baby

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Nojay UK  Mar 23, 2021 • 3:16:39am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Eddie the Eagle of motor racing…

Some years ago I saw a Trabant parked up near where I live here in Edinburgh. It had the Monte Carlo stickers on it, I don’t know if it actually was the actual race car or a wannabee replica.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Mar 23, 2021 • 3:26:03am

This is pathetic. I actually feel bad for people who are this desperate and willfully ignorant of reality.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 23, 2021 • 4:17:32am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 23, 2021 • 4:20:27am

re: #126 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I saw those Savage tweets yesterday and didn’t know what to make of them. Savage just doesn’t rate high enough for me to spend the time to figure it all out.

The network of cross-linked absurdity on social media is now such a dense ball of spaghetti that I can’t make heads or tails of many posts.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 23, 2021 • 4:22:16am

re: #127 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I saw those Savage tweets yesterday and didn’t know what to make of them. Savage just doesn’t rate high enough for me to spend the time to figure it all out.

The network of cross-linked absurdity on social media is now such a dense ball of spaghetti that I can’t make heads or tails of many posts.

I guess everyone needs someone to hate. It’s depressing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 4:23:47am

re: #128 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I guess everyone needs someone to hate. It’s depressing.

really. Until enough Muslim immigrants came, Europeans had to invent Protestantism so they could hate each other while still being of the same race & religion

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 23, 2021 • 4:25:16am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

really. Until enough Muslim immigrants came, Europeans had to invent Protestantism so they could hate each other while still being of the same race & religion

I guess I should be happy that I only hate Republicans. 👀

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 23, 2021 • 4:27:20am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

really. Until enough Muslim immigrants came, Europeans had to invent Protestantism so they could hate each other while still being of the same race & religion

Europe’s always had the Jews to hate. And they still do; it’s easy to find anti-Semitism here in Europe and you don’t have to look too deeply to find it, either. And the further east you go, the stronger it becomes.

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steve_davis  Mar 23, 2021 • 4:34:07am

re: #52 sagehen

not possible, because they’re all odd numbers. 3 odd numbers can’t add up to an even number.

that was my thought, but I’m losing what is left of my mind knowing that there is apparently some trick here I haven’t thought of.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 4:35:58am

re: #131 Dr Lizardo

Europe’s always had the Jews to hate. And they still do; it’s easy to find anti-Semitism here in Europe and you don’t have to look too deeply to find it, either. And the further east you go, the stronger it becomes.

that is true, but that was the case of a persecuted minority. But thanks to the Reformation, they basically have an excuse for an entire half the population to hate the other half

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 4:37:30am

re: #132 steve_davis

that was my thought, but I’m losing what is left of my mind knowing that there is apparently some trick here I haven’t thought of.

I knew something was askew. consult the wikipedia page that notes that balls 1 - 8 are solid colors, 9 and above are striped.

usually there is a line underneath to distinguish 6 from 9 but it is missing in this case…

drove my mathematician friends nuts on FB, one pointed out that if you switch to an 11-based system, it would add up.

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darthstar  Mar 23, 2021 • 5:12:33am

This made me laugh. Good morning.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 23, 2021 • 5:24:31am

re: #135 darthstar

This made me laugh. Good morning.

I am accumulating resources to help make life multiplanetary & extend the light of consciousness to the stars

JFC, that’s got to be one of the most pretentious things I’ve ever read, LOL. Sounds like Elon’s getting high on the smell of his own flatulence.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 23, 2021 • 5:25:59am

re: #135 darthstar

This made me laugh. Good morning.

Easy peasy…They’re both nuts.

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Teukka  Mar 23, 2021 • 5:26:49am

This is your Tuesday sciency stuff dose, this time about the big TX Power Grid Outage in February this year:

What Really Happened During the Texas Power Grid Outage?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 23, 2021 • 5:32:10am

Always amazed at how many hits some youtube videos get in just a couple of days. LIke tens of millions.

Here is one from 4 days ago, already 23M+ views. The topic is something that is bound to get wide circulation. But the channel must be raking in money from Google:

Glitterbomb Trap Catches Phone Scammer (who gets arrested)

..

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Decatur Deb  Mar 23, 2021 • 5:39:07am

…delete
Glitch produced 2 copies. The following is better-structured.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 23, 2021 • 5:44:32am

re: #136 Dr Lizardo

I am accumulating resources to help make life multiplanetary & extend the light of consciousness to the stars

JFC, that’s got to be one of the most pretentious things I’ve ever read, LOL. Sounds like Elon’s getting high on the smell of his own flatulence.

That’s the expressed theme of the Musk interviews and the Musk-modeled character in the Nat Geo Mars series. It’s one of the less harmful things an accidental billionaire can do.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 23, 2021 • 5:52:17am

re: #141 Decatur Deb

That’s the expressed theme of the Musk interviews and the Musk-modeled character in the Nat Geo Mars series. It’s one of the less harmful things an accidental billionaire can do.

Fair enough. And it has just enough of a touch of James Bond supervillainy. 😂

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Belafon  Mar 23, 2021 • 5:57:09am

re: #137 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Easy peasy…They’re both nuts.

But one of them is self-aware.

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jeffreyw  Mar 23, 2021 • 5:58:02am

We’ve been robbed!

Good morning!

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darthstar  Mar 23, 2021 • 5:59:41am

re: #142 Dr Lizardo

Fair enough. And it has just enough of a touch of James Bond supervillainy. 😂

I think Musk models himself after Drax/Zorin/Blofeld.

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darthstar  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:00:57am

re: #143 Belafon

But one of them is self-aware.

Well…partially aware at least. She’s still fuckin’ nuts.

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:03:34am

Biden is the first president since reagan to get his entire cabinet confirmed

(omb/tanden is cabinet -level)

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:03:38am

re: #132 steve_davis

that was my thought, but I’m losing what is left of my mind knowing that there is apparently some trick here I haven’t thought of.

Possible spoiler alert.

UZ8GQaKcYaKsREzOMngD4TAz/q0WdXpW

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Decatur Deb  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:04:06am

re: #145 darthstar

I think Musk models himself after Drax/Zorin/Blofeld.

He’s rich enough to be perpetually eccentric, not nuts. If he turns out to be right, he’ll get all the highschools named after him.

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darthstar  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:09:21am
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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:09:44am

Here’s a chilling stat (electoral-vote.com)

Between the end of Reconstruction and 2020 (a total of 124 years), only eight Black people were elected to the U.S. Senate.

6 were dems

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ericblair  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:10:15am

re: #142 Dr Lizardo

Fair enough. And it has just enough of a touch of James Bond supervillainy. 😂

More than a touch. When you start reading bits of what these rich nutballs are saying, they want a new world away from pesky Earthly concerns like human rights and democracy. They want to be Weyland Yutani.

Ironically, the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, of which most nations are signatories, is basically space communism. Everything is supposed to be done under the control and responsibility of the appropriate State, so no independent commercial operators (non-government entities). No national appropriation of celestial bodies, including no restricting where others can go.

I’m just waiting for the big push by the rich to amend the treaty, because these guys won’t put up with any of it.

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:10:28am

Fuck the GOP.

They will offer up their usual thoughts and prayers and do nothing but try to goose the sales of guns across a nation already swamped with more guns per capita than anywhere else on the planet. No other OECD nation has as much gun violence as the US. We do nothing to stop it, because one party has completely sold itself to the NRA (wholly owned subsidiary of Russia - prove me wrong on this).

The NRA has gotten courts to write the entire first half of the 2A out of existence, allowing people unfettered access to guns, despite the death toll that includes homicides, suicides, and mass shootings.

The only reason mass shootings were down in 2020 was because of the pandemic, and the moment that restrictions were relaxed, those ticked right back up again. School shootings were likewise down in 2020 - again for the same reason.

The GOP answer to every mass shooting is the same: thoughts and prayers, do nothing, it’s too soon to politicize the deaths, gun control is wrong, and Democrats are coming to take your guns away.

So the mass slaughter continues.

Even the trope that good guys with a gun can stop the bad guys doesn’t check out. It never has, because the bad guy invariably gets the drop on the good guys, as was the case yesterday when the first cop on the scene was himself murdered by the shooter.

Having a gun doesn’t make you invulnerable. It makes you a mark. If you say that arming teachers will prevent school shootings, the shooters will target teachers and take their guns. Heck, there have been school shootings where there were armed guards and that didn’t deter the shooting in the first place.

It’s not a deterrent to a determined assailant.

It’s easier to get a gun in many states than it is to register to vote in those states.
It’s easier to get a gun in some states than it is to get an abortion or health insurance.

And one party keeps trying to make it easier to get guns while simultaneously making it harder to vote, get abortions, or health coverage. Weird how that works.

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Nojay UK  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:16:02am

re: #151 Dangerman

Here’s a chilling stat (electoral-vote.com)

I saw some numbers for representation in the US Senate and House of Congress some time ago — back in the 1980s the Republicans had more women members than the Democrats, with roughly parity in total numbers of seats. Nowadays it’s the Democrats who have much a larger female representation than Republicans.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:19:52am

re: #152 ericblair

More than a touch. When you start reading bits of what these rich nutballs are saying, they want a new world away from pesky Earthly concerns like human rights and democracy. They want to be Weyland Yutani.

Ironically, the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, of which most nations are signatories, is basically space communism. Everything is supposed to be done under the control and responsibility of the appropriate State, so no independent commercial operators (non-government entities). No national appropriation of celestial bodies, including no restricting where others can go.

I’m just waiting for the big push by the rich to amend the treaty, because these guys won’t put up with any of it.

Years ago I posted that there was a finite number of billionaires a democracy could sustain. Since Trump I’m fairly sure that number is 0. It’s not that they are particularly evil or insufficiently good, just that having enough money to move nations and buy functional immunity makes them too dangerous to foster. We need to restructure our legal and economic system to prevent wealth from approaching quasi-national status.

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A Cranky One  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:20:00am

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:23:54am

re: #154 Nojay UK

The GOP have under 10% women representation and have one or two persons of color in their entire caucus (House and Senate). This is a party that is a white nationalist party where the misogyny runs strong.

Meanwhile, Democrats are moving towards parity.

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darthstar  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:25:20am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:25:29am

re: #157 lawhawk

The GOP have under 10% women representation and have one or two persons of color in their entire caucus (House and Senate). This is a party that is a white nationalist party where the misogyny runs strong.

Meanwhile, Democrats are moving towards parity.

and Lassie Lindsay Graham is warning is that the Democrats are out to change America forever!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:27:03am

re: #158 darthstar

Oath Keeper Who Stormed Capitol Is Struggling to Cope Because He’s a ‘Family Man’ with ‘No Previous Experience’ Being Jailed, Lawyers Claim

The implication being that “those people” who grow up in a criminal milieu are totally used to being in and out of jail/prison…

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:31:17am

re: #14 Eric The Fruit Bat

A Canon 7 with a Voigtlander lens, eh?

I have a pretty maxed out Olympus OM-D 10 Mk III, with an 8mm cap lens, 14-42mm kit lens, a Panasonic Linux 25mm f1.4 prime, a 75-150mm zoom, and a 100-300mm zoom.

Sad thing is I haven’t used it in a couple of years, and I’m thinking of selling the whole package.

Keep it
Something might develop
(Too easy?)

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Belafon  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:34:56am

Hey, look at what happens when governors decide to relax:

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:35:06am

re: #30 TedStriker

Sgt. Alvin York (a favorite son here in TN, especially in East TN out on the Cumberland Plateau, where he was from) would have probably beat the shit out of that guy.

Gary Cooper probably too

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Belafon  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:35:59am

The good doctor needs to lighten up a little.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:39:03am

re: #164 Belafon

Krispy Kreme offering free doughnuts for getting vaccinated is like Marlboro offering free cigarettes for getting a flu shot. We have an obesity epidemic in this country that is killing us. Corporations that ride the COVID-19 vaccine as a marketing ploy for junk food is terrible.

Quite the overreaction. The odd doughnut is not the issue: it is the diet/lifestyle combination.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:43:47am

re: #165 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Quite the overreaction. The odd doughnut is not the issue: it is the diet/lifestyle combination.

A donut every once in a blue moon is fine.

A box of donuts every day - that might be a problem.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:44:27am

re: #166 Dr Lizardo

A donut every once in a blue moon is fine.

A box of donuts every day - that might be a problem.

But the latter is closer to the standard…

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:45:46am

re: #31 sagehen

You won’t be at all surprised how Andrew Sullivan reacted to the Atlanta shootings:

andrewsullivan.substack.com

When The Narrative Replaces The News
How the media grotesquely distorted the Atlanta massacres

and of course he’s put this column behind a subscribers-only paywall..

The Foxnews site has more extensive excerpts, with no paywall
foxnews.com
Andrew Sullivan blasts media for ‘grotesquely’ distorting Atlanta shootings to push hate crime ‘narrative’

Killing two “white” people *also* then means it can’t be a hate crime?

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Belafon  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:47:26am

re: #167 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But the latter is closer to the standard…

The people who are going to go to Krispi Kreme every day for a year are the people who already go to Krispi Kreme every day.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:47:29am

re: #168 Dangerman

Killing two “white” people *also* then means it can’t be a hate crime?

The same logic that says that having a black friend means you can’t be a racist.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:48:24am
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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:48:51am

re: #74 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

Heck the crowds have been starting to cheer earlier and earlier since the 70s

..and the home..woo woo woo.. Of the brave…play ball!

O say can you see…woo woo woo…

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:52:29am

re: #85 Targetpractice

This really goes to show the power of Cold War-era historical revisionism in this country. There was no national anthem before 1931 and it didn’t become commonplace to play it before games before WWII. In other words, generations of Americans marched off to war before the damned song was even recognized as anything other than a poem sung to the tune of a British drinking song.

Now do “under god” in the pledge. ;-)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 6:55:42am

re: #173 Dangerman

Someone here posted about how people who do not understand a concept like patriotism, Christianity or masculinity are the ones who cling most desperately to the arbitrary and often superficial symbols we come to attach to them: flags/anthems, crosses/public prayers, guns/camo gear, etc…

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:01:07am

Meanwhile, here in Czech Republic….

Covid-19 reinfections are growing fast in the Czech Republic, which currently has the world’s highest per capita death rate from the disease, a state health institute said.

The number of reinfections jumped to 1,400 by 28 February from 158 registered at the end of January and 56 at the end of 2020, data from the National Institute of Public Health have shown.

“The reinfection rate is growing because of the significant number of Covid-19 cases during the autumn wave,” the institute said in a statement.

The EU member of 10.7 million people has so far registered over 25,000 deaths from almost 1.5 million Covid-19 cases.

The figures make it the world’s leader in deaths per capita and second worst in cases per capita, according to an AFP tally based on data per 100,000 inhabitants over the past 14 days.

rte.ie

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:02:51am

re: #175 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, here in Czech Republic….

rte.ie

Germany has decided not to allow extended family visits over Easter as they are still feeling the wave generated by easing restrictions over Christmas…

Sucks.

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:03:47am

re: #104 ckkatz

I am guessing that a lot of old contextual humor is going to be lost as we old geezers pass on.

The one I remember:
Why is our (Soviet) government not in a hurry to land men on the moon?
What if they refuse to return?

Why did the Russians have such fast Olympic runners?
-They used the border as the finish line
-The starting gun was loaded

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:06:43am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany has decided not to allow extended family visits over Easter as they are still feeling the wave generated by easing restrictions over Christmas…

Sucks.

Here, there’s currently no parliamentary support to extend the current state of emergency - which expires on 28 March.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:06:58am

re: #175 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, here in Czech Republic….

rte.ie

Yesterday, here in Minnesota, we recorded the first official day with zero deaths from COVID-19 since March 13, 2020.

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:07:20am

re: #109 ckkatz

Ha!

Just about the last joke I remember from 40 years ago:

A man walks into a shop. He asks the clerk, “You don’t have any meat?”
The clerk says, “No, here we don’t have any fish. The shop that doesn’t have any meat is across the street.”

I have a cousin (originally from Michigan) who lives in Hamburg. She used to talk about the Trabi’s when the wall came down. And how underpowered and overpolluting they were.

These days we talk about various different Germanic languages and dialects. I do not speak any German-based languages beyond the American dialect of English. But am curious about her perceptions of the various dialects. Including Pennsylvania, Texas and Kansas German. Since we have Swiss-German ancestry, it is also interesting to get her thoughts on some of the various Swiss-German dialects.

I once ordered coffee without milk
The waitress said were out of milk can I give it to you without cream?

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stpaulbear  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:10:08am

re: #162 Belafon

The FM oldies station that I listen to in the morning has been running some well done Covid PSAs every commercial break. They started out with folksy MN Health department ads, but now they’re running CDC ads that hit a little harder without being strident. They cover everything that people should still be doing to slow Covid. They’re really good.

Two of the stations big advertisers are a casino and an indoor water park (both in WI), and they almost always have a Covid PSA before or after. I’ve texted the station to tell them how glad I am that they’re running the PSAs in conjunction with the ads. I asked if they’d had any negative (fake news!) reactions to the PSA and they said that no one had complained.

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:15:34am

re: #142 Dr Lizardo

Fair enough. And it has just enough of a touch of James Bond supervillainy. 😂

Does elon have a long haired white cat?

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:15:49am

re: #143 Belafon

But one of them is self-aware.

Which one?

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:20:44am

re: #158 darthstar

[Embedded content]

True of every first time arrestee who is also a father.
So what makes you special? //

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:22:02am

re: #184 Dangerman

True of every first time arrestee who is also a father.
So what makes you special? //

“Our prison system is for criminals, not for patriots!”

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darthstar  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:24:39am
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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:32:09am

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Polish writer Jakub Zulczyk charged for calling President Duda a ‘moron’ (BBC)

Conservatives will seek to limit free speech, no matter which country they rule.

(more)

It wasn’t for calling the President a moron, he revealed a state secret (old Soviet joke)

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:37:18am

re: #187 The Pie Overlord!

It wasn’t for calling the President a moron, he revealed a state secret (old Soviet joke)

One morning in the Kremlin, an aide says to Leonid Brezhnev, “Comrade General Secretary, today you’re wearing one black shoe and the other is brown.”

“Yes,” Brezhnev answers, “I’ve noticed it myself.” “So, why didn’t you change?”, inquired the aide, to which Brezhnev replied, “See, I went to change, but when I looked in the closet, the only other pair was the same…one shoe was brown and the other black.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:44:13am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

really. Until enough Muslim immigrants came, Europeans had to invent Protestantism so they could hate each other while still being of the same race & religion

I suppose there were not enough Jews to go around?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:46:14am

re: #189 The Pie Overlord!

I suppose there were not enough Jews to go around?

Much more fun to have half of society hating the other half rather than all ganging up on the same minority.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:46:18am

JFC

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:49:17am
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mmmirele  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:49:26am

re: #67 Ace-o-aces

Not surprised. I remember when Andrew went to great lengths to deny that Matthew Shepard’s killing had anything to do with homophobia.

Jesus.

Oh, and Dan Savage is encouraging people to read an article on Quillette (already not a good choice because of Quillette’s racism and xenophobia) about how Jesse Singal is not transphobi. HELLO. If the only place you can find the article is on Quillette, then holy crap…NOPE.

One of my friends is transgender. She heard a local Alabama transphobe on the radio last night, was just livid and asked me to read something she wrote to said transphobe. I was all, this is fine, go ahead and send it.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:50:40am

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:51:34am

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I just got in from raising the flags after the last mass-murder when the news of another one was coming in.

If President Biden ordered the flags to half-staff every time there was a mass-murder in the country, the flag would never fly at full-staff.

could just cut all the poles in half…
oh wait…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:53:03am

re: #194 The Pie Overlord!

I love the car analogy for guns. Let’s do it:

-Everyone has to learn how to use the car properly and get licensed to use it without supervision

-Your license can be taken away

-Every owner pays into insurance

-There are places where you can’t use the car

At which point they will simply cite the second clause of the Second Amendment stressing our right to bear arms - while of course totally ignoring the “well-regulated militia” aspects of it

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 23, 2021 • 7:57:11am

More to follow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:00:05am

re: #197 Dr Lizardo

More to follow.

he was only 21?

Yowser

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:02:12am

Is There Anything Actually Wrong With ‘Christian Nationalism?’ (Newsweak)

Yes. There are many things very wrong with any kind of theocratic nationalism.

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TedStriker  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:03:29am

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

he was only 21?

Yowser

The Atlanta killer is only 22, IIRC.

Young, radicalized, and armed to the teeth.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:03:29am

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

he was only 21?

Yowser

Not untypical with spree killers, as I recall.

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:03:57am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember when the Campus Crusade for Christ people were active in our dorm at Arizona State University. I even went along to a meeting. Somebody there commented to the loud rock music blaring from another room that it was “devil music”.

That was the last time I had anything to do with the CCC. If you wanna believe in angels & demons then I got no reason to continue talking to you.

It was their slavish devotion to Bill Buckley, the Birchers, Reagan and the GOP that turned me off of those Xtians.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:04:22am

re: #194 The Pie Overlord!

Also: In most cases there’s a lot more paperwork associated with buying a car than with buying a gun.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:05:30am

re: #201 Dr Lizardo

Not untypical with spree killers, as I recall.

Yep. Young, angry and easily able to access deadly weaponry is usually not a great combo.

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:06:39am

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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Sen. Kennedy:

*YOUR ARGUMENT* is allowing the drunks, these buffoonic caricatures, to be the public face of all gun owners.

The answer is for *YOU* the “sober drivers” to acknowledge who the drunk gun owners are and target, yes, target them.

if you would crack down hard *only* on the demonstrably dangerous and irresponsible, nothing would happen to the 95% of responsible gun owners.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:07:42am

re: #200 TedStriker

The Atlanta killer is only 22, IIRC.

Young, radicalized, and armed to the teeth.

I was actually thinking of what he looked like in the video yesterday when he was taken into custody

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darthstar  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:08:56am
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sagehen  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:10:45am

re: #201 Dr Lizardo

Not untypical with spree killers, as I recall.

Bonnie and Clyde were 24 and 25 when they died…

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Jay C  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:13:10am

Just finished watching the live update from Boulder: still not a lot of hard data on the shooter, the victims - outside of the slain officer, who is being (seriously and appropriately, AFACBD) lauded as a sterling example of LE dedication - most questions waved off with the same “It’s too early in the investigation” dodge. I’m sure we will get the whole story eventually: I guess it’s a function of the Internet Age that it just seems bad not to get all information immediately….

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:13:42am

re: #196 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

At which point they will simply cite the second clause of the Second Amendment stressing our right to bear arms - while of course totally ignoring the “well-regulated militia” aspects of it

that’s why, imo any argument relating to the 2nd amendment is a loser from the start.
as are registrations, databases, bans etc.

every right comes with some responsibilities, even gun possession.
hold gun owners to their responsibility of controlling their weapons at all times.
most of the dangerous ones will weed themselves out.
the rest of us wont have our lives impacted at all just like i dont lose my license or car because someone else is arrested for dui.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:14:03am

re: #208 sagehen

Bonnie and Clyde were 24 and 25 when they died…

Exactly. They were pretty young when they went on their crime spree. Andrew Cunanan, the killer of Gianni Versace, amongst others, was only 27.

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:14:27am

re: #199 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Is There Anything Actually Wrong With ‘Christian Nationalism?’ (Newsweak)

Yes. There are many things very wrong with any kind of theocratic nationalism.

wow,what an idiotic question

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:15:59am

re: #211 Dr Lizardo

Exactly. They were pretty young when they went on their crime spree. Andrew Cunanan, the killer of Gianni Versace, amongst others, was only 27.

Lee Harvey Oswald was 24 when he shot Kennedy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:16:42am
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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:17:00am

Age is irrelevant to mass shootings.

We’ve seen teen shooters (Columbine).
We’ve seen older shooters (Las Vegas).

The one thing that seems to bind these mass shootings is that they’re typically white and male. They also have easy access to guns and can more easily buy guns than they can register to vote or get a driver’s license.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:20:06am

Oops…..looks like the previous Czech Health Ministers fucked up royally.

The lack of vaccines in the Czech Republic, which often justifies the slow-moving vaccination against COVID-19, cannot be attributed only to the often-blamed bureaucratic apparatus of the European Union. The Czech government also bears its share of responsibility, as it did not use the opportunity to order more vaccines, although it could have. It was a decision of the former two health ministers.

According to a document obtained by Hospodářské noviny, the Czech Republic was able to order significantly more benefits than what was actually ordered, thanks to agreements concluded with the European Union.

While some countries ordered enough doses to create the so-called natural immunity among people, which according to experts requires at least 70 percent of the population to have been vaccinated, the Czech Republic plans to vaccinate only 44 percent of people by the middle of the year.

There could have been twice as many vaccines from two manufacturers
According to the letter, the reason behind the lack of available vaccines is the fact that the government ordered only 81.1 percent of the vaccines to which it was entitled under the order. They only ordered half of the possible vaccines from AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson.

According to the Ministry of Health, this was a decision of the previous Ministers of Health Adam Vojtěch and Roman Prymula (both for YES). Vojtěch told the paper that he was only dealing with the supply of AstraZeneca vaccines, at a time when it was not clear which vaccines would be successful, so the Ministry did not want to “bet everything on one card”.

While the Czech Republic will have less than half of the adult population vaccinated by the middle of the year according to the current strategy, Malta has ordered vaccines for 92 percent of people, Denmark for 79 percent and Romania for 56 percent. Only Latvia, Slovakia, Croatia and Bulgaria anticipate lower vaccination rates by mid-year.

Original, in Czech: novinky.cz

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:20:58am

re: #215 lawhawk

Age is irrelevant to mass shootings.

We’ve seen teen shooters (Columbine).
We’ve seen older shooters (Las Vegas).

The one thing that seems to bind these mass shootings is that they’re typically white and male. They also have easy access to guns and can more easily buy guns than they can register to vote or get a driver’s license.

maybe this is tautology but they also think that shooting and killing people means something. that it will do something or solve something.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:24:37am

re: #144 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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calochortus  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:26:14am

re: #197 Dr Lizardo

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More to follow.

Freepers are saying his name is Ahmad Al-Issa. They may or may not have a clue.

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gwangung  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:26:54am

Fracking disgusting, Friend’s father died, and a resident mailed the mail to express their glee.

Crawling out the woodwork.

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danarchy  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:28:22am

re: #219 calochortus

Freepers are saying his name is Ahmad Al-Issa. They may or may not have a clue.

That was announced in the press briefing, it is correct

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:29:06am

re: #221 danarchy

That was announced in the press briefing, it is correct

Ah, fuck. We’re never going to get to address the real problems in this country as long as people can invent a convenient scapegoat excuse.

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calochortus  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:29:38am

re: #221 danarchy

That was announced in the press briefing, it is correct

Sigh. Because a (likely) Muslim nut case is just what we needed now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:30:30am

re: #199 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Is There Anything Actually Wrong With ‘Christian Nationalism?’ (Newsweak)

Yes. There are many things very wrong with any kind of theocratic nationalism.

From the article:

“My own definition of “Christian nationalism” would be this: An orientation for engaging in the public square that recognizes America as a Christian nation, where our rights and duties are understood to come from God and where our primary responsibilities as citizens are for building and preserving the strength, prosperity and health of our own country.

It is a commitment to an institutional separation between church and state, but not the separation of Christianity from its influence on government and society. It is a belief that our participation in the political system can lead to beneficial outcomes for our own communities, as well as individuals of all faiths.”

And just how the fuck to you resolve those gaping contradictions?

Of course Christian values shape America through the individuals who practice the faith, who vote or otherwise participate in governing. Just as all the other religions represented in America’s population help to shape America.

Christianity is and will remain for some time as the single largest religion, just not the de facto or default state religion that it once was.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:30:34am

re: #223 calochortus

Sigh. Because a (likely) Muslim nut case is just what we needed now.

Doesn’t matter whether he is or isn’t. His foreign-sounding name is enough to paint him as an external threat, someone who “shouldn’t even be here” (doesn’t matter if he’s an American citizen or not - see Obama, Barack Hussein).

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No Malarkey!  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:32:21am

Morning Joe was flogging the immigration crisis with lies this morning.

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No Malarkey!  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:34:48am

re: #221 danarchy

That was announced in the press briefing, it is correct

Clearly means real Muricans need MOAR GUNS! to counter the furrin terrorist threat./

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:39:12am

re: #219 calochortus

Freepers are saying his name is Ahmad Al-Issa. They may or may not have a clue.

I’m seeing that reported in other sources as well. NY Post and NY Daily News among others.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:40:57am

re: #228 Dr Lizardo

I’m seeing that reported in other sources as well. NY Post and NY Daily News among others.

Then we are soon going to be hearing all about how we are so focused on demonizing lone wolf white males that we are ignoring the Muslim Terror Threat. In all caps and from all the rooftops…

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calochortus  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:43:12am

Well, I need to get moving this morning, but on my way out the door I’ll point out that all these rough, tough, strong guys who like to destroy stuff-and people-have it wrong.
A child can destroy things quite efficiently. It takes an actual adult to create and repair to any significant extent.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:43:51am

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

he was only 21?

Yowser

The massage parlor shooter isn’t much older. It’s a young man’s game.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:44:14am

I’ve just been poking around the intertubez. There was a report released in 2019 that stated the average age of a mass shooter is 33. They tend to be (no surprise here) overwhelmingly white and male.

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:47:22am

Shooter is X.

Okay, that may explain motive, but there’s more fundamental questions: how the fuck did he get the guns, and why is it so fucking easy for people to get guns in the US, including and especially guns that serve no other purpose except to kill as many people in as short a time as possible.

We know why the laws are stagnant in this area despite overwhelming support for gun control, background checks, and banning assault weapons: the GOP.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:49:36am

re: #229 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Then we are soon going to be hearing all about how we are so focused on demonizing lone wolf white males that we are ignoring the Muslim Terror Threat. In all caps and from all the rooftops…

BIDEN LET THIS GUY IN!!!

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:51:38am

fwiw

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:56:17am

re: #233 lawhawk

Shooter is X.

Okay, that may explain motive, but there’s more fundamental questions: how the fuck did he get the guns, and why is it so fucking easy for people to get guns in the US, including and especially guns that serve no other purpose except to kill as many people in as short a time as possible.

We know why the laws are stagnant in this area despite overwhelming support for gun control, background checks, and banning assault weapons: the GOP.

None of that matters, because the shooter is X, and therefore X is the problem. There’s no way guns or access thereto can be the problem, because law-abiding gun owners something something wharrgarbl.

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Charmingly Persistent  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:58:23am

I don’t know that it matters that the shooter this time is a Muslim. I still want for cities in Colorado to be able to set stricter gun regulations than the state. I still want AR-15s banned. I still want open carry ended so at least we don’t have to wait until people start shooting to know they are dangerous.

On a personal note,

f3VqKUpKIdLPrTBJURYHV0yrTwx0WHd4yNwK0zLw5TQShAkHG9Bnqmu69oW7g8845GhKC4zLKQHYEGaLDYdiTF1pL/wKIePbcPWySrqXtrOcsCQJeXE9m7rkWoOM7tvfl8O712b32VnNOuqHH28YblkTM71QwCX23ZZ0zLlhWS1ETcNkG2TW97XfA6P4CXD81NTKtCKLCzFspw0xtVd6RNE5Fuph8Yc6UlWbkJM/hqQgLoF0fjFF0pDOCWMqUBnUqGgw8Bi2GjU=

It is hard to get Colorado to pass gun control because last time Democrats who voted for it were recalled and the Dems lost the state senate for a while. But this may do it. I hope.

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Jay C  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:58:39am

re: #234 Eclectic Cyborg

BIDEN LET THIS GUY IN!!!

While I’m sure some Internet imbecile will no doubt propagate this meme (and other halfwits take it up) - according to LE, the shooter was a “local” who was said to have lived “most of his life” in Arvada, CO: a commuter/suburban town between Denver and Boulder.

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(((Archangel1)))  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:58:41am

re: #88 ckkatz

Not Scotland. Israel, where a donut variety called “sufganiyot” has been a Hanukkah holiday tradition for centuries.

Classic sufganiyot differ from US donuts - little, puffy balls of dough usually filled with a small (if not bordering on nonexistent) amount of jam and sprinkled lightly with powdered sugar. Small, minimally sweet and nothing fancy.

Traditional small sufganiyot

Here’s the thing: Dunkin’ Donuts launched in Israel in the mid ’90s, opened 9 branches, and closed them all 2001 citing poor sales resulting from “cultural disinterest”.

But if you were to look in the past few years alone, the two weeks leading to Hanukkah each winter have had just about every bakery in the country going above and beyond in terms of how big and over the top their sufganiyot can be, if not going outright crazy. They’ve also started bringing out DD-styled donuts into the mix as well (weak, pale imitations at any rate).

Calories in this image are bigger than they appear.
One of the four page sufganiyot menu offered by a top Israeli confectionery.
Familiar appearance, but nowhere near as good. Not even close.

Not pictured are the insane varieties that were sold by my place, little towers of sugar nearly as high as my LCD screen.

Sales of the doughy goodness break new records each year. And about two weeks later when the holiday is over, all vanish without a trace. Just two weeks, with a sizable chunk of the population longing for them and/or the glorious US variety throughout the remaining ~350 days of the year.

Personally, I’m a traditionalist who will forever prefer his donuts in the good old-fashioned US variety that can’t really be found in these parts since DD left in 2001.

But “cultural disinterest”? Yeah right, that’s some straight up BS. Someone failed at business management, pure and simple.

[Edited because I kept getting things wrong with the images. Also typos.]

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2021 • 8:58:47am

re: #235 Dangerman

GOPers will point out that the GWB years saw an expansion of the wall. Obama also expanding the wall as required by Congressional appropriations from Bush years.

What everyone seems to ignore is that the wall created as many problems as it purports to solve, including stranding those who would leave seasonally. They’re now stuck on one side or the other.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:16:43am

re: #23 Hecuba’s daughter

“At our weekly zoom meeting tonight, most talked about how they aren’t paying attention to the news these days because we now have a sane President”

That’s basically me. I’ve stopped watching all news programs including those I regularly viewed on MSNBC. President Biden is doing an excellent job and I’m going to give myself a break. I assume many of us on the left are doing just that.

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:19:23am

re: #239 (((Archangel1)))

Not Scotland. Israel, where a donut variety called “sufganiyot” has been a Hanukkah holiday tradition for centuries.

Classic sufganiyot differ from US donuts - little, puffy balls of dough usually filled with a small (if not bordering on nonexistent) amount of jam and sprinkled lightly with powdered sugar. Small, minimally sweet and nothing fancy.

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Not pictured are the insane varieties that were sold by my place, little towers of sugar nearly as high as my LCD screen.

Sales of the doughy goodness break new records each year, and two weeks later once the holiday period is over, all are gone - with a sizable chunk of the population longing for them throughout the rest of the year.

“Cultural disinterest”? Yeah right. Someone failed at business management, pure and simple.

you gotta sell suntan lotion and umbrellas

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:20:22am

re: #241 Patricia Kayden

“At our weekly zoom meeting tonight, most talked about how they aren’t paying attention to the news these days because we now have a sane President”

That’s basically me. I’ve stopped watching all news programs including those I regularly viewed on MSNBC. President Biden is doing an excellent job and I’m going to give myself a break. I assume many of us on the left are doing just that.

i feel way less need, and compulsion to stay up to the minute informed/aware

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:20:23am

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I like this Jakub guy!! How is a democracy subjecting citizens to penalties for criticizing government officials? That’s outrageous.

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Rightwingconspirator  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:20:32am

Another mass shooting? Already? Damn.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:20:34am

As far as the Colorado shooting suspect goes, people will look at his name and immediately associate that with OMG HE’S A JIHADHI!!! and I’m damned sure that’s already happening, and I don’t even need to look.

But it’s a ridiculous assumption - based on my RL Italian-origin family name, it’d be assumed I’m either

A) more Catholic than the pope

or

B) the capo di tutti i capi of the Five Families.

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darthstar  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:23:20am

Just did my first live class on the Peloton - my resistance/cadence wasn’t displaying so I quit four minutes into it and rejoined a half minute later - so I had to start way behind where I wanted to be on the leaderboard. Managed to finish 460 out of 2100 people still.

Jenn Sherman’s classes kick butt though.

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sagehen  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:23:30am

re: #237 Charmingly Persistent

my daughter had her Covid vaccine at that King Soopers a few days ago. I am relieved I don’t know any of the victims, but that’s just selfish. They all had people who knew and loved them.

The very best line in any of Bush’s speeches was, speaking of the thousands of 9/11 victims…

“Each and every one of them was the most important person in the world to somebody.”

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:24:54am

re: #245 Rightwingconspirator

Another mass shooting? Already? Damn.

Good to see you.

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sagehen  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:26:06am

re: #240 lawhawk

GOPers will point out that the GWB years saw an expansion of the wall. Obama also expanding the wall as required by Congressional appropriations from Bush years.

What everyone seems to ignore is that the wall created as many problems as it purports to solve, including stranding those who would leave seasonally. They’re now stuck on one side or the other.

And because they’re stuck… they send for their families. If they could go back to their village for half the year, their spouses and offspring wouldn’t be here.

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darthstar  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:27:24am

re: #245 Rightwingconspirator

Another mass shooting? Already? Damn.

It’s like all of the assholes took the pandemic off too.

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Rightwingconspirator  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:30:03am

re: #249 wrenchwench

Thanks. Out of the hospital and home to recover.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:35:37am

Moderna Shot #1 update: My arm is a little sore today but it’s manageable. I haven’t taken anything for it but I might pop a couple ibuprofen here soon.

I also woke up with an overwhelming urge to kill John Connor. Is this normal?

//

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Belafon  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:38:23am

re: #194 The Pie Overlord!

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I can’t take my car into a bar or a supermarket.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:39:16am

re: #254 Belafon

I can’t take my car into a bar or a supermarket.

not without damaging the finish…

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:39:44am

re: #253 Eclectic Cyborg

Moderna Shot #1 update: My arm is a little sore today but it’s manageable. I haven’t taken anything for it but I might pop a couple ibuprofen here soon.

I also woke up with an overwhelming urge to kill John Connor. Is this normal?

//

Depends….are you getting flippant responses cued up in your eyes?

“Buddy you got a dead cat in there?” - Terminator

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Jay C  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:40:29am

Things one learns surfing the Internet! In case it hadn’t/hasn’t been noted, March 17 of this year was the 150th anniversary of the establishment of professional baseball in the US, with the foundation of the National Association of Professional Base Ball Players in 1871.

Even though most “standard” histories of the game tend to place the start of the “organized” game in the US with the setup of the National League in 1876, the NA was carrying on some sort of “league” schedule for a few years before that; so: another unnoticed milestone… (?)

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Belafon  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:40:52am

re: #222 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Ah, fuck. We’re never going to get to address the real problems in this country as long as people can invent a convenient scapegoat excuse.

Then don’t let it be an excuse. He was allowed to buy a gun because the law says you don’t need to show responsibility as a gun owner to buy one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:42:23am

re: #258 Belafon

Then don’t let it be an excuse. He was allowed to buy a gun because the law says you don’t need to show responsibility as a gun owner to buy one God says we all have the right to bear one.

/

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Belafon  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:44:37am

re: #243 Dangerman

i feel way less need, and compulsion to stay up to the minute informed/aware

The worry from my point of view is this: Voting tends to almost be directly correlated with either fear or rage, not happiness.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:51:15am

re: #258 Belafon

Then don’t let it be an excuse. He was allowed to buy a gun because the law says you don’t need to show responsibility as a gun owner to buy one.

THIS.

You have to pass a test to be able to drive a car.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:53:10am

re: #261 Eclectic Cyborg

THIS.

You have to pass a test to be able to drive a car.

You don’t have to be a member of a well regulated militia to bear arms.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:54:02am

Back from my first Pfizer jab. Pretty seamless process through suburban Cook County, IL. 15 min. observation took longer than checking to shot. Now I gotta get used to the gov’t tracking my every move.

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plansbandc  Mar 23, 2021 • 9:54:13am

re: #193 mmmirele

wVgnHq8iDHNpPi3McsJgvN9gi10S49OOjUDz2G3FucbqQ2/eQGn18FzEQJgI3MxL26UIC5g4lK+ff+oZYHU+3ljy7zxi5y7rvSxKAL7uiMS3tnb2dP/7mpiQM7cL5YEe5+S0qxXB+hwtcvhPt1QHWCz7+LNftI6c78nopPKTzFz0p9AFG1VjcsYW7F74hY08IREeqHj6duJwUYEr78KOj668xx1+XVwjk5Lcr+AJf1YlZjzBQwPMig==

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:00:01am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:02:37am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:04:30am

So have the usual suspects freaked out about the Colorado shooter having a non “real American” name yet?

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danarchy  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:09:34am

re: #267 GlutenFreeJesus

So have the usual suspects freaked out about the Colorado shooter having a non “real American” name yet?

Fox seems to be playing up the mental illness angle

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:10:01am

re: #267 GlutenFreeJesus

So have the usual suspects freaked out about the Colorado shooter having a non “real American” name yet?

I expect that we will hear no end of how the left loves to demonize white males but makes excuses for guys like this, etc…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:14:45am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:15:11am

My Internet is back! It’s been 24 hours since I got the first dose of the Moderna vaccine. Hurt less than most flu shots. There is a slight tenderness if I punch the injection area.

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:15:23am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:15:53am

re: #268 danarchy

Fox seems to be playing up the mental illness angle

That’s…rather surprising. Usually they go for skin color more than anything else.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:18:23am

re: #272 lawhawk

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Sounds about right. She lives just 30 miles south of me. This area is crawling with people like that.

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:18:34am

re: #261 Eclectic Cyborg

THIS.

You have to pass a test to be able to drive a car.

imo, while car/driving/license analogies are easy to understand, somewhat applicable, and have merit with reasonable people/honest arguers, they tend to fail because driving is a non-constitutional, regulated privilege.

right, wrong or otherwise, and however you interpret it, the 2A is in the constitution and that will always make it a different animal.

there can be no argument that gun ownership/possession comes with responsibilities.
every right comes with some responsibilities. even those under the 2A.

focus on laws that make people responsible for their actions.
that includes gun sellers.
nothing pre-emptory except with regards to imminent threats.
no confiscations, bans, registration, etc.
Actions.
you screw up, you’ve proven you’re not responsible.
you lose your freedom, finances and future.
if you dont speed, dont drive drunk, respect red lights and stop signs, the world leaves you alone.

the only place this argument goes is ‘we want the right to own guns and no responsibility for what happens”.
while this is what they’ve been doing, they haven’t quite come to saying it out loud yet.

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:19:03am

re: #263 GlutenFreeJesus

Back from my first Pfizer jab. Pretty seamless process through suburban Cook County, IL. 15 min. observation took longer than checking to shot. Now I gotta get used to the gov’t tracking my every move.

(they already were)

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:20:16am

re: #275 Dangerman

The 2A also assumed a well regulated militia and regulation of firearms and organization of those with the right bear arms, but the GOP has written all of that out of the Constitution.

Regulation, including licensing can and should be part of the equation.

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darthstar  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:20:31am

White guy kills 10 people in Colorado, and Marsha Blackburn blames BLM fears.

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Dangerman  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:20:43am

re: #271 Dread Pirate Ron

My Internet is back! It’s been 24 hours since I got the first dose of the Moderna vaccine. Hurt less than most flu shots. There is a slight tenderness if I punch the injection area.

…it hurts when i do this…..
…don’t do that…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:22:03am
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darthstar  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:22:16am

re: #271 Dread Pirate Ron

My Internet is back! It’s been 24 hours since I got the first dose of the Moderna vaccine. Hurt less than most flu shots. There is a slight tenderness if I punch the injection area.

Maybe stop punching the injection area…it’s just your body’s antibodies greeting the new neighbors.

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darthstar  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:27:09am

re: #278 darthstar

White guy kills 10 people in Colorado, and Marsha Blackburn blames BLM fears.

Just saw “He’s Muslim” trending on Twitter. And Fox is apparently covering the shooting now that it’s an act of terrorism. The guns are the issue, assholes, not the religion.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:27:32am

re: #281 darthstar

Maybe stop punching the injection area…it’s just your body’s antibodies greeting the new neighbors.

So, basically “stop hitting yourself”?

I’m have elementary school flashbacks here…

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William Lewis  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:29:39am

I’ve mentioned it before but the Czech licensing and testing regimen for firearms would be the best way to handle the issue here while still allowing for the classic gun culture to exist. The problem is that the far right radicals have their fantasy interpretation of the constitution so deeply engrained in their brains that they won’t allow sane regulations. These are people, after all, that call unlicensed concealed carry (something the founders abhorred — only criminals concealed their weapon! ) “Constitutional Carry”.

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EstebanTornado1963  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:29:51am

Paging @joenbc

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darthstar  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:33:50am

Greitens is a cretin.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:34:37am

re: #271 Dread Pirate Ron

My Internet is back! It’s been 24 hours since I got the first dose of the Moderna vaccine. Hurt less than most flu shots. There is a slight tenderness if I punch the injection area.

If it hurts when you do that, don’t do that.

(Hennie, we hardly knew ye.)

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sagehen  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:39:24am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is a case for the Metaphor Police.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:39:35am

re: #282 darthstar

Just saw “He’s Muslim” trending on Twitter. And Fox is apparently covering the shooting now that it’s an act of terrorism. The guns are the issue, assholes, not the religion.

And the previous one was Christian. Hell, has anyone even ascertained that he is Muslim? Just the name doesn’t prove anything. He could be a Jew for Jesus for all we know.

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danarchy  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:45:10am

re: #289 Eventual Carrion

And the previous one was Christian. Hell, has anyone even ascertained that he is Muslim? Just the name doesn’t prove anything. He could be a Jew for Jesus for all we know.

Saw his facebook page for a bit before it got locked. His last posting was from September, but it was a passage from the koran. So it is a decent bet. However it also seems the guy had paranoid delusions if you take his brothers word for it.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:50:02am

For what it’s worth, listening to the radio earlier, the shooter’s older brother says he has serious mental health issues,including bouts of paranoia. They did not have the interview audio, just some early chatter about stuff that happened after the police press conference yesterday. So we may get no actual motive beyond this guy’s fears and anger and untreated mental health issues. Maybe.

We’re failing in two big areas in this country: how we treat mental health issues(and I believe we don’t have nearly enough professionals to handle the number needing help, which is another issue)and the crappy system we have in place. The second issue is guns and how awful and stupid our system is. It is possible to register each weapon, we already have a system that registers cars, bikes, trucks and even trailers. Create a second system to register and insure guns that looks like that. Make it illegal to sell your guns without a transfer of ownership, just like a car. And if you fuck up and someone is hurt or killed because you’re careless and stupid , no more boom sticks for you. And you face criminal charges. The only reason this is even a thing is because lobbyists and right wing assholes need a wedge to make people hate each other. It needs to stop.

I’m also starting to think that shielding the public from the gore of these mass shootings is a bad plan. I know it’s awful and traumatizing to see it on the tv, and there’s respect for the victims and their families and that matters too. But the public is not going to have a wake up call on this unless they can see the carnage up close. It’s too easy to push it aside every fucking time it happens, and so it happens over and over.

To be clear, not all shooters have definable mental health issues beyond being self focused assholes or even psycho or sociopaths. It can’t be the excuse for all these shootings. But something fundamentally wrong is happening in our culture if there is a big enough contingent of humans defending guns over life that we can’t fix what is broken. We’re not a United States of anything at a lot of fundamental levels and I personally think that is what is driving this much brokenness.

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DesertDenizen  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:50:13am

re: #290 danarchy

Saw his facebook page for a bit before it got locked. His last posting was from September, but it was a passage from the koran. So it is a decent bet. However it also seems the guy had paranoid delusions if you take his brothers word for it.

So someone who never shoukd have had access to weapons. Some mental health conditions should make it difficult to procure a weapon, or even impossible. And this is coming from someone who chose to surrender my weapons to my father after being diagnosed with Type 2 Bipolar and spending some time in the hospital to get stable.

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Teukka  Mar 23, 2021 • 10:56:10am

re: #268 danarchy

Fox seems to be playing up the mental illness angle

Hmmm… Q- or Sabmyk-ball of middle eastern persuasion?

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sagehen  Mar 23, 2021 • 11:02:52am

re: #275 Dangerman

imo, while car/driving/license analogies are easy to understand, somewhat applicable, and have merit with reasonable people/honest arguers, they tend to fail because driving is a non-constitutional, regulated privilege.

right, wrong or otherwise, and however you interpret it, the 2A is in the constitution and that will always make it a different animal.

Anymouse has a whole history thing that until the 1920’s, courts mostly held that driving was also a constitutional right (freedom of movement). Cars weren’t licensed or tagged, drivers weren’t licensed, that era’s right wing strongly objected when states tried to pass laws.

Eventually, the death toll got high enough the appellate courts and supremes decided it really was okay for states to require training and testing and licensing.

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BeenHereAwhile  Mar 23, 2021 • 1:06:08pm

re: #166 Dr Lizardo

A donut every once in a blue moon is fine.

A box of donuts every day - that might be a problem.

Ich bin ein Berliner


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