A Beautiful Acoustic Guitar Piece by Dustin Furlow: “Airborne”

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While recognizing my own experiences are comparable to drops in the ocean, “Airborne” is a piece I composed to illustrate the isolation, emotional turbulence and small triumphs I’ve felt since the beginning of the pandemic. Everyone has had an individual journey throughout this time - be it smooth sailing or stormy seas - and I wanted to dedicate this piece to those who have lost loved ones, their livelihood, or been separated from their lovers or families from closed borders.

Big thanks to Matt Thomas for recording, Antoine Dufour for mixing/mastering and Karlijn Langendijk for filming/color grading.

The guitar is a Cedar/Rosewood OM handbuilt by Rebecca Urlacher in Bend, Oregon.

Filming locations include Washington DC, Norfolk, and Amsterdam International Airports as well as the dunes of Castricum, Netherlands

It was a pleasure putting this all together and I’m proud to share it with you all. Let me know what you think and feel free to share this if you enjoyed it.

Recorded by Matt Thomas
Mixing/mastering by Antoine Dufour
Video by Karlijn Langendijk and Matt Thomas

Guitar handmade by Rebecca Urlacher
urlacherguitars.com

Film locations: Washington DC, Norfolk, and Amsterdam International Airports. The dunes of Castricum, Netherlands

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 11, 2021 • 10:24:25am

Ahh. There is nothing like the scent of a new thread.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 11, 2021 • 10:37:29am

FT

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retired cynic  Apr 11, 2021 • 10:48:39am

Lovely.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 11, 2021 • 11:10:20am

I really enjoy the lightning deals on amazon. The only problem is waiting for the deal to go active.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 11, 2021 • 11:12:57am

re: #2 I Would Prefer Not To

FT

I wonder if Google is still demonetizing pages that use the full term, now that he’s no longer President**.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 11, 2021 • 11:17:32am

re: #5 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Only if his sycophants are still reporting them like crazy.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 11, 2021 • 11:19:37am

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

Only if his sycophants are still reporting them like crazy.

Which they are. They drove the Utah Outcasts over to Twitch.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Apr 11, 2021 • 11:23:37am
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makeitstop  Apr 11, 2021 • 11:23:52am

File under locking the barn door after the completely humorless cow has gotten out…

Looking for freelancers, with no salary listed. I wonder if they’re going to pay them by the joke.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 11, 2021 • 11:25:15am

re: #9 makeitstop

No salary? No jokes given.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 11, 2021 • 11:26:19am

re: #10 PhillyPretzel

No salary? No jokes given.

I feel like what they’re doing there is to let the applicant fill in the blank, rather than setting an expectation. Then, they can hire in the lowest bidder.

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makeitstop  Apr 11, 2021 • 11:26:34am

re: #10 PhillyPretzel

No salary? No jokes given.

Or as the saying goes, ‘No money, no funny.’

Not that paying ‘conservative’ joke writers would make much of a difference.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 11, 2021 • 11:29:29am

re: #11 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

I always think I’m worth about 2x whatever I am currently being paid. That’s my fill-in the blank.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Apr 11, 2021 • 11:33:27am

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Robert Moses
(New York’s “master builder” of the twentieth century.)

Caro’s The Power Broker accused Moses of building the bridges across his parkways low in order to “restrict the use of state parks by poor and lower-middle-class families,” who did not own cars and would arrive by bus, and of discouraging blacks, in particular, from visiting Jones Beach, the centerpiece of the Long Island state park system, by such measures as making it difficult for black groups to get permits to park buses even if they came anyway (by other roads); assigning black lifeguards to “distant, less developed beaches” instead; and keeping the water temperature in the pool low, in the belief that black people were less tolerant of cold water. While the exclusion of commercial vehicles, and the use of low bridges where appropriate, were standard on earlier parkways, where they had been instituted for aesthetic reasons, Moses appears to have made greater use of low bridges, which his aide Sidney Shapiro said was done in order to make it more difficult for future legislators to allow commercial vehicles.

Moses vocally opposed allowing black war veterans to move into Stuyvesant Town, a Manhattan residential development complex created to house World War II veterans. In response to the biography, Moses defended his forced displacement of poor and minority communities as an inevitable part of urban revitalization, stating “I raise my stein to the builder who can remove ghettos without moving people as I hail the chef who can make omelets without breaking eggs.”

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 11, 2021 • 11:38:14am

re: #13 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I always think I’m worth about 2x whatever I am currently being paid. That’s my fill-in the blank.

I had a previous employer, when I resigned, they made the standard counter-offer. My boss’s boss said, “How much do you want in order to stay? 15%?” In the back of my head, I’m laughing, saying, “The other guys are paying me close to 50% more to get me to go, AND they aren’t going to be working me to death in a toxic environment like you currently are.”

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 11, 2021 • 11:45:28am

re: #15 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

If I ever leave my current job that is the answer I would love to give. :)

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2021 • 11:47:25am

re: #9 makeitstop

“Desperately searching for someone to make punching down seem funny.”

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:07:48pm
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Dangerman  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:09:50pm

re: #15 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

I had a previous employer, when I resigned, they made the standard counter-offer. My boss’s boss said, “How much do you want in order to stay? 15%?” In the back of my head, I’m laughing, saying, “The other guys are paying me close to 50% more to get me to go, AND they aren’t going to be working me to death in a toxic environment like you currently are.”

If you’re willing to pay me more now
If I’m worth it
And not just temporarily till you now find my replacement and boot me anyway
Then you admit you’ve been underpaying me

and if thats how you felt, then you should have made this offer at my last eval

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:11:00pm
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makeitstop  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:13:06pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s such a fucking mess.

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Dangerman  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:15:35pm

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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:16:17pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Uday looking and acting every bit whacked out as MAGATs want you to believe Hunter Biden is today.

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gocart mozart  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:17:52pm

Poor Ann Howard writes one book and gets sued first by a mass murderer and then by a serial killer.
Does this link work? civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:22:12pm

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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Dangerman  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:23:45pm
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jaunte  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:24:03pm

“White Lives Matter” rally outside Fort Worth City Hall:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:27:31pm

POLITICO Playbook: GOP donors privately pan Trump’s ‘horrible’ RNC speech

A slew of well-heeled Republican National Committee donors descended on Palm Beach this weekend, excited to be schmoozed, eager for access to DONALD TRUMP and other potential 2024 nominees, but mostly interested in hearing how far their dollars would go toward winning back the Congress and White House.

Trump’s speech didn’t do any of that.

“It was horrible, it was long and negative,” one attendee with a donor in the room tells Playbook. “It was dour. He didn’t talk about the positive things that his administration has done.”

Instead, Trump used the final night of the retreat to talk about himself, his grievances and how he plans to enact retribution against those who voted to impeach him — which runs counter to the donors’ main objective of making sure their dollars go toward winning overall.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:31:05pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

After four years of DT talking about himself and how the numbers make him look good they expected something else.

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:31:38pm

re: #14 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I’ve got a dogeared copy I inherited from my dad, who was a city planner and knew lawyers who worked directly for Moses. Moses actions had racist outcomes, even if his intent wasn’t always racist. You can say that I’ve got two degrees of separation from Robert Moses himself.

He targeted communities of color for “slum clearance”.
He targeted communities of color for his highways because it was easier to ram through his bridge, tunnel, and highway projects against communities that didn’t have clout to stop him and his plans. He targeted them repeatedly - the Gowanus in Brooklyn could have gone two blocks further West, into the industrial fringe, instead of right through the neighborhood. He knowingly built bridges on his parkways - Northern, Southern, Meadowbrook, Wantaugh, Sagiktos, Sunken Meadow, too low to get bus clearances safely because he wanted to make the parkways car only. He did this also knowing that cars would likely serve only whites who could afford them. It also meant that access to the beaches that those highways served also would be limited to white car drivers.

Oh, and the kicker?

Moses never learned to drive - he had a chauffeur drive him all around.

It finally took Nelson Rockefeller to stop Moses - all while Rockefeller saw himself as a master builder whose Empire State Plaza project in Albany razed a huge portion of the downtown and was envisioned to split key parks and neighborhoods in two as loop roads to 787 and 90.

Those loops didn’t get built.

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:32:44pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:33:32pm
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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:34:51pm

re: #27 jaunte

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:36:57pm

re: #33 lawhawk

Then can use the excuse that it is raining today but I do not think they will.
weather.gov

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:38:05pm
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Secret ANTIFA Operative  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:38:57pm

re: #2 I Would Prefer Not To

FT

Fuck that fat fucking fuck!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:40:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:42:09pm
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makeitstop  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:42:36pm

re: #30 lawhawk

I’ve got a dogeared copy I inherited from my dad, who was a city planner and knew lawyers who worked directly for Moses. Moses actions had racist outcomes, even if his intent wasn’t always racist. You can say that I’ve got two degrees of separation from Robert Moses himself.

He targeted communities of color for “slum clearance”.
He targeted communities of color for his highways because it was easier to ram through his bridge, tunnel, and highway projects against communities that didn’t have clout to stop him and his plans. He targeted them repeatedly - the Gowanus in Brooklyn could have gone two blocks further West, into the industrial fringe, instead of right through the neighborhood. He knowingly built bridges on his parkways - Northern, Southern, Meadowbrook, Wantaugh, Sagiktos, Sunken Meadow, too low to get bus clearances safely because he wanted to make the parkways car only. He did this also knowing that cars would likely serve only whites who could afford them. It also meant that access to the beaches that those highways served also would be limited to white car drivers.

Oh, and the kicker?

Moses never learned to drive - he had a chauffeur drive him all around.

It finally took Nelson Rockefeller to stop Moses - all while Rockefeller saw himself as a master builder whose Empire State Plaza project in Albany razed a huge portion of the downtown and was envisioned to split key parks and neighborhoods in two as loop roads to 787 and 90.

Those loops didn’t get built.

Moses’ wackiest idea by far was trying to build a super-highway to Montauk - on Fire Island. Only citizen action saved the barrier island and the communities on it.

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:44:09pm

re: #22 Dangerman

[because you don’t figure shit out by praying]

Apparently you figure shit out by riding a bike.

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EstebanTornado1963  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:47:13pm

Fuck that fat fuck.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:48:18pm

re: #41 EstebanTornado1963

The Jersey Whale has spoken again. ::: eye roll :::

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:49:02pm

re: #39 makeitstop

Moses wanted two Cross Manhattan Highways. One at the Manhattan Bridge. The other at the GWB. He got the latter, but thankfully not the former, which would have wrecked Chinatown and lower Manhattan.

Moses never saw a problem that he couldn’t solve by building more roads - his actions are induced demand in action.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:49:12pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:51:07pm
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sagehen  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:53:42pm

re: #39 makeitstop

Moses’ wackiest idea by far was trying to build a super-highway to Montauk - on Fire Island. Only citizen action saved the barrier island and the communities on it.

Isn’t Fire Island just a really big sandbar? That a slight rise in sea level, and/or a couple of big storms, will entirely destroy?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:56:10pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 11, 2021 • 12:58:21pm

OT I just got my second mat for my kitchen and it is a good as the first one. This one is a smaller one and I put it at the sink. I should have gotten these mats years ago.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:00:23pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:01:08pm

Politico, Axios, NYT: they all seem determined to elect President DeSantis.

As for interstate highways cutting apart minority neighborhoods, I got a good if too short education one day in Richmond, VA by a friend who lived there and studied it about how Black neighborhoods that had been doing well if not absolutely thriving were left in tatters by I-95. I saw a twitter feed earlier today where a scholar laid out redlining maps from the late 1930s that showed how closely the 465/65 set up in Indy snakes through the redlined neighborhoods mostly. The story is likely the same for nearly every urban center.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:09:22pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:11:26pm

re: #29 PhillyPretzel

After four years of DT talking about himself and how the numbers make him look good they expected something else.

They still expect “the pivot” to occur since otherwise it continues to show how deluded they were in supporting him in the first place.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:13:20pm

re: #41 EstebanTornado1963

Fuck that fat fuck.

Sure, it’s a liberal agenda - that everyone supports. Even Republicans. So sit the fuck down, shut the fuck up, and take your whuppin’ like a good boy. And enjoy the benefits of living in a society ruled by adults instead of a whiny manbaby.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:13:54pm

re: #52 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

You are right.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:14:04pm
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sagehen  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:14:05pm

re: #50 Barefoot Grin

Politico, Axios, NYT: they all seem determined to elect President DeSantis.

As for interstate highways cutting apart minority neighborhoods, I got a good if too short education one day in Richmond, VA by a friend who lived there and studied it about how Black neighborhoods that had been doing well if not absolutely thriving were left in tatters by I-95. I saw a twitter feed earlier today where a scholar laid out redlining maps from the late 1930s that showed how closely the 465/65 set up in Indy snakes through the redlined neighborhoods mostly. The story is likely the same for nearly every urban center.

In Los Angeles, yeah the 11 from downtown to Pasadena did some of that; but really the more destructive constructions were dams (e.g., Baldwin Hills) and Dodger Stadium (Chavez ravine).

Chavez Ravine: A Los Angeles Story

Not only an educational documentary, but also

Narration: Cheech Marin
Score: Ry Cooder

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:17:45pm

“Traditional infrastructure.” What a bullshit phrase. The nature of infrastructure evolves as we improve our technology. In the 1700’s, “infrastructure” didn’t include anything to do with oil, gas, electricity, or telephones. But now all of those are considered essential.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:19:44pm

Meanwhile in Huntington Beach…

ktla.com

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makeitstop  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:20:55pm

re: #46 sagehen

Isn’t Fire Island just a really big sandbar? That a slight rise in sea level, and/or a couple of big storms, will entirely destroy?

Pretty much. We lose a bit of it with every big storm that comes along.

A friend used to rent a house out there, on the beach side. After Hurricane Sandy and a couple of nor’easters, the house was declared unstable and inhabitable. Eventually most of the houses out there will suffer the same fate, I’m afraid.

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A Cranky One  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:28:14pm

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:30:21pm

re: #60 A Cranky One

How to write bad science fiction.

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mmmirele  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:31:03pm

re: #30 lawhawk

I mentioned this on Twitter, but I learned about freeways dividing and destroying communities in a 4th grade class (so 1969-70). I don’t know how we got this guy teaching one day, but he talked about it in terms 4th graders could understand. And it was gentle, not accusatory. You have to understand, I went to Whitey McWhiterson Elementary (Silverwood Elementary School, Concord, CA). As the years passed, I’d remember how I first heard about highways destroying and dividing communities and I’d wonder “how the hell did THAT happen?”

And then the YAFfer popped up with that crazy…brought it all back. Damn, the ignorance.

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makeitstop  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:31:13pm

re: #61 PhillyPretzel

How to write bad science fiction.

This is the future that liberals want. /

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Jay C  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:32:40pm

re: #46 sagehen

Isn’t Fire Island just a really big sandbar? That a slight rise in sea level, and/or a couple of big storms, will entirely destroy?

Not entirely sand: there’s also a bit of dirt out there, too. But not enough to get the high point of FI above like 9-10 feet (?). But yeah, rising sea levels are going to really mess with the place: IIRC, Hurricane Sandy created a surge that opened a 200-yard-wide gap at one end: but since there were no rich folks’ estates out that way, so they just left it….

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:34:04pm

re: #41 EstebanTornado1963

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:43:46pm

today’s shiitake harvest, ready for slicing and dehydrating.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:44:38pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mmm. They look good.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:45:57pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

How many logs do you have?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:48:56pm

re: #68 Colère Tueur de Lapin

How many logs do you have?

About 60, give or take

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makeitstop  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:52:14pm

re: #64 Jay C

Not entirely sand: there’s also a bit of dirt out there, too. But not enough to get the high point of FI above like 9-10 feet (?). But yeah, rising sea levels are going to really mess with the place: IIRC, Hurricane Sandy created a surge that opened a 200-yard-wide gap at one end: but since there were no rich folks’ estates out that way, so they just left it….

Someone told me that ‘The Breach’ was actually a good thing for the bay, because it changed the circulation patterns for water flowing in and out.

The stupid thing sure did put a hitch in walking out to certain parts of the island, though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:52:23pm
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A Cranky One  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:52:36pm

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A Cranky One  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:54:55pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:55:27pm

heh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 1:57:17pm

re: #73 A Cranky One

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A Cranky One  Apr 11, 2021 • 2:00:00pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 2:01:18pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2021 • 2:04:57pm

re: #56 sagehen

In Los Angeles, yeah the 11 from downtown to Pasadena did some of that; but really the more destructive constructions were dams (e.g., Baldwin Hills) and Dodger Stadium (Chavez ravine).

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Video

Not only an educational documentary, but also

Narration: Cheech Marin
Score: Ry Cooder

I’ve listened to the Ry Cooder album a 1,000 times, but today is the first time I watched the documentary. (Thanks!) A lot of the spoken parts are on the record. The album is the last to have Lalo Guerrero recorded. This might contain some bias:

[…] Lalo Guerrero passed away peacefully on March 17, 2005 at the age of 88. Imagine, five months before he passed away he was still performing and bringing down the house. In June of 2005, three months after his passing, a CD by Ry Cooder was released, “Chavez Ravine.” It includes three songs on which my dad sang lead vocals, a song he wrote for the project, “Corrido de Boxeo,” and new versions of his classic compositions “Los Chucos Suaves” and “Barrio Viejo.” He recorded the project in January of 2003 at the age of 86 with a still strong and vibrant voice. It’s fitting that even after he’s physically no longer with us, he’s on a great new CD which will help to advance Chicano music to a new mainstream audience. Lalo Guerrero was without a doubt the greatest Chicano musical artist of all time.[…]


Lalo’s son wrote that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 2:05:31pm

re: #76 A Cranky One

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A Cranky One  Apr 11, 2021 • 2:10:31pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 2:12:15pm

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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 11, 2021 • 2:15:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 2:20:46pm
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So Cal Greek Hippie  Apr 11, 2021 • 2:25:38pm

2015: Backyard (not mine) Sycamore Tree in Ventura, CA

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stpaulbear  Apr 11, 2021 • 2:28:55pm

re: #30 lawhawk

I’ve got a dogeared copy I inherited from my dad, who was a city planner and knew lawyers who worked directly for Moses. Moses actions had racist outcomes, even if his intent wasn’t always racist. You can say that I’ve got two degrees of separation from Robert Moses himself.

He targeted communities of color for “slum clearance”.
He targeted communities of color for his highways because it was easier to ram through his bridge, tunnel, and highway projects against communities that didn’t have clout to stop him and his plans. He targeted them repeatedly - the Gowanus in Brooklyn could have gone two blocks further West, into the industrial fringe, instead of right through the neighborhood. He knowingly built bridges on his parkways - Northern, Southern, Meadowbrook, Wantaugh, Sagiktos, Sunken Meadow, too low to get bus clearances safely because he wanted to make the parkways car only. He did this also knowing that cars would likely serve only whites who could afford them. It also meant that access to the beaches that those highways served also would be limited to white car drivers.

Oh, and the kicker?

Moses never learned to drive - he had a chauffeur drive him all around.

It finally took Nelson Rockefeller to stop Moses - all while Rockefeller saw himself as a master builder whose Empire State Plaza project in Albany razed a huge portion of the downtown and was envisioned to split key parks and neighborhoods in two as loop roads to 787 and 90.

Those loops didn’t get built.

The neighborhood I live in was a mixture of blue collar whites (below the bluff) and the affluent (at the top of the bluff) when the 35E route was proposed through St. Paul. The neighborhood put together a coalition that managed to delay full completion of the route until 1990. The concessions made to the neighborhood included limited access, fewer lanes, landscaping, and a 45mph speed limit through the neighborhood (it’s called a parkway). The speed limit is still in place and occasionally enforced. A local writer used to call it the practice freeway for learning how to drive.

Of course, north of my neighborhood, 94 was run straight through the middle of the thriving black Rondo neighborhood.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 2:29:20pm
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A Cranky One  Apr 11, 2021 • 2:32:27pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 2:33:48pm

re: #87 A Cranky One

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 2:41:13pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 11, 2021 • 2:41:19pm

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 11, 2021 • 2:42:08pm

Wiping of information is a real thing.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 11, 2021 • 2:52:24pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

Controversial hot take: I am not a fan of articles that take lightly the conditions in prison. I know there’s the schadenfreude element of these asshats getting some blowback from their stupidity, but… no. Just no. They don’t deserve to be abused in prison.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:01:59pm
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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:02:38pm

re: #93 The Pie Overlord!

I’d rather have COVID.

And so you will. Over, and over, and over, and over again. Until it eventually kills you. Because that’s how it works.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:02:57pm

re: #93 The Pie Overlord!

Good. Then let me have her dose. It will be put to good use.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:07:15pm

re: #95 PhillyPretzel

Good. Then let me have her dose. It will be put to good use.

I can’t begin to describe the utter rage that I feel at this whiny little bitch comparing her social media troubles to The Holocaust.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:07:49pm

re: #93 The Pie Overlord!

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Just when you MISTAKE thinking Loomer can’t get any dumber…

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:08:21pm

re: #96 The Pie Overlord!

I can’t begin to describe the utter rage that I feel at this whiny little bitch comparing her social media troubles to The Holocaust.

It’s funny how literal Nazis are the ones describing themselves as Holocaust victims. Well, not funny “ha-ha”, funny “white-hot seething ball of rage and I have to laugh so I don’t punch someone in the face.”

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:08:49pm

re: #96 The Pie Overlord!

I can’t begin to describe the utter rage that I feel at this whiny little bitch comparing her social media troubles to The Holocaust.

Trust me the rage I have when it comes to her is double!

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William Lewis  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:11:09pm

I’m a Triumph fan, owned a Bonnie, but then, there is Vincent…

The Myth of Vincent Motorcycles’ Black Lightning | Robb Report

and of course that deserves this:

Richard Thompson - 1952 Vincent Black Lightning

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makeitstop  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:12:49pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

FAFO, numbskull.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:14:44pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

POLITICO Playbook: GOP donors privately pan Trump’s ‘horrible’ RNC speech

Instead, Trump used the final night of the retreat to talk about himself, his grievances and how he plans to enact retribution against those who voted to impeach him — which runs counter to the donors’ main objective of making sure their dollars go toward winning overall.

Which differs from his four years in office how?

Answer: Not at all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:15:40pm
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🌹UOJB!  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:17:33pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jonathan Karl has always been a GOP Presstitute. Still remember when he repeatedly lied about Obama and sympathized with the teabaggers & birthers.

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sagehen  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:20:59pm

re: #102 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Which differs from his four years in office how?

Answer: Not at all.

Eternal Festivus. Year-round.

(just don’t ask him to do the feats of strength)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:21:51pm
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b.d. (The GOP is a Hate Group)  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:23:52pm

re: #104 🌹UOJB!

Jonathan Karl has always been a GOP Presstitute. Still remember when he repeatedly lied about Obama and sympathized with the teabaggers & birthers.

lol @ his pinned tweet:

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sagehen  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:26:34pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lawyers for 30-year-old Ethan Nordean cited recent reports detailing alleged assaults and poor treatment of Capitol riot defendants by jail guards. The specific article cited by Nordean’s lawyers was published by POLITICO, but has been deleted from the outlet’s website some reason. Insider points out that the POLITICO article detailed one defendant’s claim that another defendant “was severely beaten by correctional officers” and is now blind in one eye with a “skull fracture and detached retina.”

Gosh golly gee. Sounds like they’re being subjected to EXACTLY what they did to the Capitol Police and MPD. 140 injured cops, 1 died from the beatings and/or bear spray, 2 more committed suicide. One cop lost an eye. Another lost 3 fingers. Dozens have TBI.

Correctional officers should of course not do such things, but… if anybody deserves it, it’s these assholes.

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Dangerman  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:30:00pm

re: #48 PhillyPretzel

OT I just got my second mat for my kitchen and it is a good as the first one. This one is a smaller one and I put it at the sink. I should have gotten these mats years ago.

our frot nt door used to be

now it’s

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:31:48pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:32:12pm

re: #109 Dangerman

I was talking about one of these:
amazon.com

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Dangerman  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:32:16pm

re: #57 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

“Traditional infrastructure.” What a bullshit phrase. The nature of infrastructure evolves as we improve our technology. In the 1700’s, “infrastructure” didn’t include anything to do with oil, gas, electricity, or telephones. But now all of those are considered essential.

+1
and duh.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:34:06pm

re: #92 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Controversial hot take: I am not a fan of articles that take lightly the conditions in prison. I know there’s the schadenfreude element of these asshats getting some blowback from their stupidity, but… no. Just no. They don’t deserve to be abused in prison.

I think most people, like me, are responding to the idea that this guy shouldn’t be in jail. Any of the assault needs to be dealt with. When I read this:

Sandlin said guards tackled “to the ground” one high-profile prisoner, Richard Barnett, 60, who was photographed with his boot up on a desk in Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office. Sandlin said one of the guards declared, “I hate all white people and your honky religion.”

I have a hard time believing it even happened. It just sounds cliche.

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prairiefire  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:40:59pm

Outdoor concert area Raj Ma Hall, NE Kansas City

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prairiefire  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:43:52pm

Calvin Arsenia!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:52:02pm
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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:53:28pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

OH THANK GOD. At long last, Putin won’t know everything we do.

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John Hughes  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:54:29pm

re: #92 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

A society should be judged not by how it treats its outstanding citizens but by how it treats its criminals.

— Fyodor Dostoyevsky

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:58:33pm

Boebert’s husband also likes to expose things.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 3:58:40pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:04:46pm

re: #100 William Lewis

I’m a Triumph fan, owned a Bonnie, but then, there is Vincent…

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I was at a motorcycle shop buying gloves and wound up sitting on a Bonneville for a couple minutes. Another customer came up to me and told me that I had the perfect look for a Bonneville, which was kind of flattering. I was pushing 60, bald with a gray beard, somewhat overweight.
A couple minutes later I ran into him at a convenience store next to the shop. I was on my red 250 cc Taiwanese Kymco scooter wearing a full helmet. He averted his eyes and didn’t say a word while I was filling the tank.

Edit: I’ve got a poster for the Richard Thompson album with that song. It’s a stylized indoor staging of a campsite at night with the Vincent parked behind him - a great picture.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:06:42pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

So that’s why I suddenly a heard a random popping noise from Mar-A-Lago.

/

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:09:36pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump obviously hasn’t missed them or he would be complaining. OTOH, he might complain now that it’s been pointed out he isn’t getting them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:10:52pm

Have we already seen this movie?

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:11:43pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

Have we already seen this movie?

Pretty sure I saw that on an episode of Stargate.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:11:56pm

Last night I dreamed I put on CNN and they were covering the Russian embassy in DC after Trump ran into it after he was indicted…while the Army surrounded the embassy…

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:16:07pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wait! The Trump administration had done positive things?

Oh, right. Changes to tax code that favour the wealthy, denying climate change, and further reducing workers to serfs. That is the sort of thing the GQP regards as positive.

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stpaulbear  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:16:15pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

If he actually did that work every day he would have what is know as calluses instead of blisters.

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retired cynic  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:20:43pm

re: #128 stpaulbear

If he actually did that work every day he would have what is know as calluses instead of blisters.

Bingo.

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stpaulbear  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:21:20pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

Have we already seen this movie?

Or read the book: Microscopic Chinese!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:28:02pm

re: #130 stpaulbear

Or read the book: Microscopic Chinese!

Kurt Vonnegut Jr.’s Green Death in Slapstick?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:29:52pm

LOL

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:32:41pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

They did not get dear leader to rally for them.

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BigPapa  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:33:56pm

The white supremacists don’t seem to have supremacy in anything.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:34:07pm

re: #134 BigPapa

The white supremacists don’t seem to have supremacy in anything.

Good.

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Jay C  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:36:40pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

Well, it seems like “White Lives Matter” has indeed induced reflexive tremors in a lot of folks: unfortunately for them it’s mostly peals of laughter…..

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stpaulbear  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:36:50pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kurt Vonnegut Jr.’s Green Death in Slapstick?

I think Green Death is right. I read all of Vonnegut’s books in a flurry so I’m not sure which book it’s from.

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:39:12pm

Maybe they already did.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:39:26pm

re: #137 stpaulbear

I think Green Death is right. I read all of Vonnegut’s books in a flurry so I’m not sure which book it’s from.

I was an exchange student in Matsuyama, Japan in the early ’80s. There was one bookstore with English-language books and for some reason that had nearly every Vonnegut book. I bought them all and read them in 6 months. I can’t remember the plots of any but Slaughterhouse-Five, but that’s because I had read it before (and have since—such a great book).

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:39:38pm

Second dose tomorrow, 2:30.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:44:24pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:46:25pm

re: #139 Barefoot Grin

I was an exchange student in Matsuyama, Japan in the early ’80s. There was one bookstore with English-language books and for some reason that had nearly every Vonnegut book. I bought them all and read them in 6 months. I can’t remember the plots of any but Slaughterhouse-Five, but that’s because I had read it before (and have since—such a great book).

I bought two different 5-book box sets of Vonnegut in the mid-70’s and my band kept both sets in the panel truck. We played all over the 5-state area so four of us were reading Vonnegut while the fifth guy drove.

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stpaulbear  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:50:35pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

Doesn’t Mar-A-Lago seem like the kind of place where everyone would be carrying Chanel bags full of cash?

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SerialUpDinger  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:53:34pm

Sleeping Bee in Mariposa Lily

The flower is Catalina Mariposa Lily,Calochortus catalinae - we found this bee lingering inside the flower with a few of his friends (beetles). Often insects will linger inside this flower - one theory is that the plants offers some intoxicating substance. We believe this long horned bee was napping (10:30AM local time). Santa Monica Mountains

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:53:57pm

re: #134 BigPapa

The white supremacists don’t seem to have supremacy in anything.

Well, they are pretty good at making asses of themselves.

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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:57:29pm

One of the Corvettes at the National Corvette Museum, post sink hole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 4:58:49pm

re: #145 SerialUpDinger

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The flower is Catalina Mariposa Lily,Calochortus catalinae - we found this bee lingering inside the flower with a few of his friends (beetles). Often insects will linger inside this flower - one theory is that the plants offers some intoxicating substance. We believe this long horned bee was napping (10:30AM local time). Santa Monica Mountains

Kind of like how the bumblebees here in TheBackwoods get “drunk” and occasionally just pass out when the passionflowers are in bloom here.

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BigPapa  Apr 11, 2021 • 5:02:07pm

re: #147 BlueSpotinAL

That’ll buff out.

Took my truck in to get a minor dent repaired I’ve neglected for a few years. Company wants to logo it so it needs to not look hoopty. Two days before it goes somebody backs out into me damaging the same spot on the other side.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 11, 2021 • 5:07:11pm

re: #141 Cheechako

Life in Alaska:

“Send help now”: Two mushers describe the events that led to their rescue from the Kobuk 440 race trail

Damn. That was intense. I’m glad they all are ok.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 11, 2021 • 5:09:45pm

Prince segment on 60 Minutes right now.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 11, 2021 • 5:10:04pm

Anyone watching 60 Min? Showcasing Prince’s Music collection

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 11, 2021 • 5:11:04pm

re: #152 Dave In Austin

Anyone watching 60 Min? Showcasing Prince’s Music collection

8000 unreleased songs, they say. Wow.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 11, 2021 • 5:11:16pm

::: watching My Grandparents War on PBS :::

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2021 • 5:33:14pm
An 11-year-old boy is dead after he was shot by a 9-year-old boy in a car in a Walmart parking lot Sunday afternoon in Dallas, police said.

Police said a 32-year-old woman parked at the Walmart at 2827 S. Buckner Blvd. and left the two boys, who police said are not related, in the car while she went shopping around 12:41 p.m. Police said they think the 9-year-old found a gun in the car and shot the 11-year-old.

wfaa.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 5:34:06pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 11, 2021 • 5:34:12pm

re: #153 Barefoot Grin

8000 unreleased songs, they say. Wow.

That’d be over 500 albums.

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BigPapa  Apr 11, 2021 • 5:37:32pm

Intellectual Consistency, how the F does it work?

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 11, 2021 • 5:38:21pm

re: #158 BigPapa

Intellectual Consistency, how the F does it work?

And the police knew this at the time they confronted him and decided to persecute him? Just from looking in the window of his car? Are you fucking kidding me?

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Jay C  Apr 11, 2021 • 5:40:14pm

re: #158 BigPapa

Intellectual Consistency, how the F does it work?

At least with a serving officer in the military, there’s a better-than-usual chance that the guy actually KNOWS something about gun safety….

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 11, 2021 • 5:42:30pm

re: #158 BigPapa

Intellectual Consistency, how the F does it work?

To a lot of people it’s a simple black and white issue.
///

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 11, 2021 • 5:42:59pm

re: #161 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

To a lot of people it’s a simple black and white issue.
///

*WHACK!*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 5:43:26pm

re: #158 BigPapa

Intellectual Consistency, how the F does it work?

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BigPapa  Apr 11, 2021 • 5:44:06pm

re: #161 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

To a lot of people it’s a simple black and white issue.
///

Oh I went there.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 11, 2021 • 5:44:18pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

I forgot the 2nd Amendment included a melanin clause.

Well, it does say “the right of the People to keep and bear arms,” and we all know they don’t think of Blacks as people, so…

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2021 • 5:46:12pm

Watching Badland on Netflix: Kevin Makely, Mira Sorvino, Wes Studi, Bruce Dern…
these old westerners really had beautiful teeth.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:00:16pm

re: #166 jaunte

Watching Badland on Netflix: Kevin Makely, Mira Sorvino, Wes Studi, Bruce Dern…
these old westerners really had beautiful teeth.

You should have seen how clean all of the soldiers’ teeth were Hacksaw Ridge.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:01:19pm

::: watching Atlantic Crossing :::

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stpaulbear  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:01:34pm

re: #166 jaunte

Watching Badland on Netflix: Kevin Makely, Mira Sorvino, Wes Studi, Bruce Dern…
these old westerners really had beautiful teeth.

You’ll have to go back to something with Gabby Hayes.

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:01:48pm

Sorry to say, Badland is pretty silly.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:02:14pm

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

And for an extra feel good, Rush is still and forever dead

Woot! I definitely feel fine!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:12:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:13:10pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:14:29pm

re: #170 jaunte

Sorry to say, Badland is pretty silly.

That’s something that Sergio Leone got right, iirc.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:17:24pm
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🌹UOJB!  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:19:20pm

re: #171 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

And for an extra feel good, Rush is still and forever dead

Woot! I definitely feel fine!

Don’t forget that Liddy is dead too.

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:26:25pm

One of our psycho billionaires is probably working on a plan to reanimate the careers of dead right wing celebrities via deepfakes.

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:26:53pm

Free horror movie idea!

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:28:21pm

Actually it’s YOU who ought to repent you ignorant Pulpit Pimp!

‘Prophet’ Robin Bullock Calls on Biden to Confess That He’s ‘Not the Legitimate President’

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:30:51pm

re: #179 🌹UOJB!

“You didn’t win legitimate!”

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:37:18pm

re: #179 🌹UOJB!

Actually it’s YOU who ought to repent you ignorant Pulpit Pimp!

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Biden: Why would I lie in front of God?

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(((Archangel1)))  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:42:52pm
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🌹UOJB!  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:43:14pm

re: #180 jaunte

“You didn’t win legitimate!”

These Pimps will never stop kissing Trump’s ass.

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:44:26pm

re: #183 🌹UOJB!

It’s going dry fast.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:44:38pm

re: #182 (((Archangel1)))

One word: Lutefisk.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:44:53pm

re: #182 (((Archangel1)))

When they filmed JR Ewing leaving the courthouse, it was actually filmed in my town.

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:45:36pm
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mmmirele  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:46:01pm

re: #128 stpaulbear

If he actually did that work every day he would have what is know as calluses instead of blisters.

Those blisters almost made me want to shriek. I’m diabetic, those kinds of open wounds are the things we’re taught to avoid. My brother (also diabetic) was showing me a pair of orthotics he’d gotten made so that he could take long walks again. He bought a new pair of shoes and managed to rub the outer sides of his feet bloody. This required him to wear a boot for several weeks while the bloody blisters healed up.* The whole point of the orthotics is they have a space cut out so the rubbing doesn’t take place.

* You’re probably asking, why didn’t he feel the blisters? Wouldn’t they hurt? Well yeah, if he didn’t have diabetic neuropathy in his feet. He doesn’t feel a thing. I, on the other hand, have such sensitive feet that I can tell when there’s a piece of lint that needs to come out because it bugs me to death.

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:47:30pm
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makeitstop  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:56:13pm

Watching Knicks - Raptors. There’s a roof leak in Madison Square Garden, so the game is under a rain delay.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2021 • 6:57:18pm

One of the more hilarious people on Questionable Content is Aurelia, Clinton and Claire’s mom. Come to find out she plays video games and livestreams her playing. To stay anonymous, she has an avatar:

questionablecontent.net

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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:02:40pm

re: #185 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

One word: Lutefisk.

One word. Martini.

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sagehen  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:02:44pm

re: #168 PhillyPretzel

::: watching Atlantic Crossing :::

me too.

now I’ve gone to google to find out

that the old man Haakon lived until 1957; Olav was king from 1957 until his death in 1991. Little Harald became king in 1991.(Olav and Martha were 1st cousins. Harald’s wife Sonja, married 1968, was a commoner.)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:04:49pm

re: #191 Belafon

One of the more hilarious people on Questionable Content is Aurelia, Clinton and Claire’s mom. Come to find out she plays video games and livestreams her playing. To stay anonymous, she has an avatar:

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questionablecontent.net

I got introduced to that comic by my niece. And the truth is that Clinton has no chill.

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plansbandc  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:06:24pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

What an asshole.

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sagehen  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:11:34pm

re: #182 (((Archangel1)))

A city that never sleeps.

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EstebanTornado1963  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:18:01pm

Watched the Masters replay. Lots of maskless assholes in the crowd. Care to guess what their skin color was?

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:21:41pm

re: #197 EstebanTornado1963

Watched the Masters replay. Lots of maskless assholes in the crowd. Care to guess what their skin color was?

Forget it Jake, It’s Georgia.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:23:02pm

WUT
(BTW this is not Trump’s actual house but WTAF)

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teleskiguy  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:23:32pm

re: #197 EstebanTornado1963

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mmmirele  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:24:57pm

re: #197 EstebanTornado1963

Watched the Masters replay. Lots of maskless assholes in the crowd. Care to guess what their skin color was?

I wonder how they’re feeling about a Japanese golfer taking the green jacket this year?

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:28:20pm

re: #201 mmmirele

I wonder how they’re feeling about a Japanese golfer taking the green jacket this year?

Don’t be surprised if the assholes in the state legislature pass a law requiring…Golfer ID!

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:29:18pm

re: #199 The Pie Overlord!

Lotsa compensation going on there.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:31:24pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:32:45pm
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Belafon  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:33:02pm

The Republican Party has sunk so low that a Cheney has the most integrity of them all:

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Dangerman  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:35:06pm
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jaunte  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:35:45pm

re: #207 Dangerman

Emphasis on the YOU.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:36:46pm
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Belafon  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:40:27pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:45:49pm
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CleverToad  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:54:36pm

re: #189 jaunte

Thanks for posting the info & link for the GoFundMe for Nichelle Nichols — we just donated. I’ve seen her in person a few times, admired her greatly for lo these many decades. Wishing her all the best.

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cat-tikvah  Apr 11, 2021 • 7:55:33pm

re: #182 (((Archangel1)))

Liberty Bell and Gritty.
Also addytood.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 11, 2021 • 8:00:05pm

re: #182 (((Archangel1)))

Tar Pits.

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2021 • 8:08:46pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Apr 11, 2021 • 8:12:15pm
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Secret ANTIFA Operative  Apr 11, 2021 • 8:16:08pm

We were a little late to the game, but we binged the Qanon doc on HBO yesterday and today. All I can say is that Watkins Jr and Sr are two of the creepiest MFers alive. Especially the elder. He’s the kind of guy who drives around in dented panel vans cruising shopping malls for underage kids to offer candy to.

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2021 • 8:19:19pm
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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Apr 11, 2021 • 8:29:21pm

re: #217 Secret ANTIFA Operative

Watkins Sr made his money dealing in pornography considered illegal in countries where the age of consent is 14. Just sayin’.

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BigPapa  Apr 11, 2021 • 8:35:12pm

As a person who’s crawled in attics and crawlspaces for a living this book should shame all of you into action. WOOD + WATER = BAD people. It’s bad.

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sagehen  Apr 11, 2021 • 8:46:37pm

re: #217 Secret ANTIFA Operative

We were a little late to the game, but we binged the Qanon doc on HBO yesterday and today. All I can say is that Watkins Jr and Sr are two of the creepiest MFers alive. Especially the elder. He’s the kind of guy who drives around in dented panel vans cruising shopping malls for underage kids to offer candy to.

can I say how not-surprised I was that the day before the capitol insurgency, they posted a Q-drop claiming to have proof (hundreds of pages of documents and 4 hours of audio; none of which they produced, they just said they had it) that Mike Pence had conspired to remove Trump and make himself president. Like… maybe that was the source of the “hang Mike Pence” chants, not just that he did his job certifying the EV.

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austin_blue  Apr 11, 2021 • 8:46:37pm

re: #147 BlueSpotinAL

One of the Corvettes at the National Corvette Museum, post sink hole.

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The death of a Plastic Pig.

Sad!

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 11, 2021 • 8:47:13pm

Yesterday there was discussion here about vaccinating shut-ins. Today’s Chicago Tribune had an article titled “Homebound seniors get vaccine via sheriff’s team”. The Cook County sheriff’s office is visiting these seniors in the Dixmoor area and vaccinating them with the one-dose J&J vaccine. They are partnering with Meals on Wheels and other organizations to reach those who might otherwise be unable to be vaccinated.

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2021 • 8:54:09pm
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Belafon  Apr 11, 2021 • 9:03:11pm

Your journalistic life is over when you get pegged by Tom:

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2021 • 9:06:55pm
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austin_blue  Apr 11, 2021 • 9:08:08pm

re: #225 Belafon

Your journalistic life is over when you get pegged by Tom:

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GG should wander down to the local Post Office, settle down on his knees, and suck dicks at 25 cents a pop until he gets his self respect back.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 11, 2021 • 9:09:22pm

re: #227 austin_blue

Post Office?

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2021 • 9:09:35pm

If you render the tweet, you see a poll.

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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2021 • 9:12:31pm

re: #225 Belafon

Your journalistic life is over when you get pegged by Tom:

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Glenn can’t bring himself to admit that he backed the wrong horse or that all his wingnut pals were just using him to prop up a sentient turd, so instead we get these pathetic excuses about how the personal life of a candidate’s son was what could have turned the entire election. Not that there was an actual scandal that was missed or that the media was caught working with the candidate’s campaign to bury a major story, but that the personal struggles of the candidate’s son weren’t treated as a major news story.

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austin_blue  Apr 11, 2021 • 9:14:04pm

re: #226 wrenchwench

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Whoa, take ‘er easy there, Pilgrim.

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2021 • 9:17:00pm

re: #225 Belafon

Your journalistic life is over when you get pegged by Tom:

Tom borrowed his analysis from my meme:

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austin_blue  Apr 11, 2021 • 9:19:18pm

re: #228 Dread Pirate Ron

Post Office?

Sure. Busy public space. Great place to wear kneepads and put out a hat. Sexual busking.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 11, 2021 • 9:20:53pm

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 11, 2021 • 9:23:43pm

re: #233 austin_blue

Here in S.F. is is pretty much relegated to the private adult movie booths. I was going to say 25 cent booths but I doubt they are that cheap anymore.

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austin_blue  Apr 11, 2021 • 9:27:37pm

Time for the rack.

Gaetz is a Dead Man Walking.

Good.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 11, 2021 • 9:28:09pm

My wife ordered dinner through Doordash tonight. I ordered a margarita with my dinner, it was 32 oz. I guess I was supposed to share it.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 11, 2021 • 9:46:28pm

re: #237 Dread Pirate Ron

My wife ordered dinner through Doordash tonight. I ordered a margarita with my dinner, it was 32 oz. I guess I was supposed to share it.

I first looked at that and when I saw 32 Ozs. I thought that was a pretty expensive steak!

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 11, 2021 • 10:12:21pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Apr 11, 2021 • 10:12:23pm
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PrairieQueen  Apr 11, 2021 • 10:20:32pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

What I want to know is do they eat and do they poop?

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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2021 • 10:21:30pm

So I see the days of “compassionate conservative” are gone, now replaced with “competent Trumpism.” I’d like just one of these assholes who repeats that shit to define it out loud, because to me it just means “all the hate, half the craziness.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 11, 2021 • 10:23:12pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 11, 2021 • 10:35:39pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 11, 2021 • 10:37:28pm

re: #240 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Looting a Little Caesar’s is like looting a cardboard recycler.

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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2021 • 10:47:01pm

re: #244 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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Well, that does tend to happen when you have people whose survival instinct takes a backseat to their selfishness. “I should stay safe” is overridden by “I WANNA GET SHITFACED IN A BAR WITH MY BUDS!!!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 11, 2021 • 10:49:32pm

re: #246 Targetpractice

And constant disinformation about vaccines meaning some people won’t get them, and GOP states opening up way too damn fast.

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Teukka  Apr 11, 2021 • 10:52:11pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2021 • 11:16:22pm

“Competent Trumpism” looks like that thing that a lot of people warned about for years: Someone every bit as fascist as Trump, but better at selling it to those outside the base.

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teleskiguy  Apr 11, 2021 • 11:20:10pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2021 • 11:21:09pm

re: #250 teleskiguy

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“A product of their time” is the nice way of saying “They’re a bitter old racist.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 11, 2021 • 11:37:28pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 12, 2021 • 12:01:48am

Hah, I worked with a Dick Hymen in ‘77. Too young to be the same person, but I did go all Bevis and Butthead over his name. I also knew a Bud Wiser and Dick Head.

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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2021 • 12:03:32am

re: #253 Dread Pirate Ron

Hah, I worked with a Dick Hymen in ‘77. Too young to be the same person, but I did go all Bevis and Butthead over his name. I also knew a Bud Wiser and Dick Head.

I worked at a golf course in high school, my boss’s name was Harry Johnson.

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Cheechako  Apr 12, 2021 • 12:10:43am

re: #253 Dread Pirate Ron

Hah, I worked with a Dick Hymen in ‘77. Too young to be the same person, but I did go all Bevis and Butthead over his name. I also knew a Bud Wiser and Dick Head.

My college roommate was a Jack Daniels. He drove a cool 52 MGTD with right hand drive and had to use the hand crank to get it started.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Apr 12, 2021 • 12:12:07am

This is really pretty damned callous of Winslow and the gleeful commenters. The last year in particular has hardened many hearts, me included, but I am still not so far gone as to laugh at an idiot setting himself on fire. Fortunately he was not seriously injured.

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ckkatz  Apr 12, 2021 • 12:23:47am

There are some interviews of Frederick Brennan (Original 8Chan Developer and partner to the Watkins) and Will Sommer at the Fever Dreams Podcast of The Daily Beast. Several other episodes of the podcast have additional interviews with QAnon Series participants.

In this special bonus episode of The Daily Beast’s Fever Dreams podcast, New Abnormal host Molly Jong-Fast joins Fever Dreams producer Jesse Cannon and co-host Will Sommer to interview Fredrick Brennan, the star of the HBO documentary. Brennan, founder of the website 8chan, which would become a breeding ground for QAnon, has since become an outspoken opponent of the website’s current owner, Jim Watkins, and his son Ron.

He Was Partners With ‘QAnon.’ Now He Wants Them Arrested
thedailybeast.com

re: #217 Secret ANTIFA Operative

We were a little late to the game, but we binged the Qanon doc on HBO yesterday and today. All I can say is that Watkins Jr and Sr are two of the creepiest MFers alive. Especially the elder. He’s the kind of guy who drives around in dented panel vans cruising shopping malls for underage kids to offer candy to.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 12:27:39am

re: #254 teleskiguy

I worked at a golf course in high school, my boss’s name was Harry Johnson.

My first boss had a client named Harry Dong

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 12:33:20am

re: #249 Targetpractice

“Competent Trumpism” looks like that thing that a lot of people warned about for years: Someone every bit as fascist as Trump, but better at selling it to those outside the base.

Josh Hawley seems to come closest to fitting that bill: he seems to be able to sell himself successfully to the GOP base as an “outsider” and “man of the people” (although he is neither).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 12:35:37am

re: #251 Targetpractice

“A product of their time” is the nice way of saying “They’re a bitter old racist.”

Just because something was accepted back then does not necessarily make acceptable now.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Apr 12, 2021 • 12:36:49am

re: #252 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I saw Dick Hyman play live in 2015. VERY talented jazz piano player.

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Targetpractice  Apr 12, 2021 • 12:58:15am

One of those weird paradoxes of life: When your computer is nearing the end of its useful life, you look at the list of all the games you can’t play on it and programs it can’t run and despair. Then you buy a brand new computer that can do all that…and you don’t know where to begin.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 1:00:35am

re: #262 Targetpractice

One of those weird paradoxes of life: When your computer is nearing the end of its useful life, you look at the list of all the games you can’t play on it and programs it can’t run and despair. Then you buy a brand new computer that can do all that…and you don’t know where to begin.

like starting off with a new girlfriend…

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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 12, 2021 • 1:03:55am

re: #262 Targetpractice

One of those weird paradoxes of life: When your computer is nearing the end of its useful life, you look at the list of all the games you can’t play on it and programs it can’t run and despair. Then you buy a brand new computer that can do all that…and you don’t know where to begin.

I have the opposite problem. I want old games to run on my new computer. RTCW and AvP2 especially.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 1:04:34am

re: #264 Dread Pirate Ron

I have the opposite problem. I want old games to run on my new computer. RTCW and AvP2 especially.

but some old girlfriends you just never get over…

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Targetpractice  Apr 12, 2021 • 1:08:39am

re: #264 Dread Pirate Ron

I have the opposite problem. I want old games to run on my new computer. RTCW and AvP2 especially.

Is it wrong that I had more fun playing RTCW’s multiplayer mode back in the day than I had actually playing the single player campaign?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 12, 2021 • 1:22:17am

I liked Alien vs. Predator II because you could play 3 different games, one each as an alien, a predator, and a marine.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 12, 2021 • 2:33:33am

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Dangerman  Apr 12, 2021 • 3:25:25am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 3:27:36am

re: #269 Dangerman

Biden Bars Trump From Receiving Intelligence Briefings, Citing ‘Erratic Behavior’

Not like Trump would have bothered to read them, but I am sure that people would be happy to pay him for a peek.

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Dangerman  Apr 12, 2021 • 3:32:54am

re: #269 Dangerman

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apparently this was February

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Dangerman  Apr 12, 2021 • 3:36:25am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 3:51:54am

re: #272 Dangerman

Classy as always. I remember when my fellow Republicans would have condemned this stuff but, that was a whole 4 years ago.

They prefer leaders who don’t let their party get taken prisoner.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 12, 2021 • 4:14:09am

Good

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steve_davis  Apr 12, 2021 • 4:15:33am

re: #17 jaunte

“Desperately searching for someone to make punching down seem funny.”

Conservatives are ideologues, and like ideologues of all stripes, they are humorless, pinch-faced prudes. In order to transfer humor successfully, it has to go through the cups of empathy and compassion for the little guy, and conservatism has neither of those qualities.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 4:22:56am

re: #275 steve_davis

They still think that “Cancel Culture” refers to people cancelling history by taking down Confederate monuments while overlooking the extent to which those very monuments are an attempt at cancelling a history of sedition, slavery and armed uprising.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 12, 2021 • 4:24:52am

re: #276 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Dixie Chicks would like a word with Conservatives about so called cancel culture. Ditto Kapernick.

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steve_davis  Apr 12, 2021 • 4:33:03am

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Where are you from?”
“I’m from here.”
“But where are you from from?”

LOL. Are there any other languages where you can do something like this to the grammar and have it actually make sense to everyone?

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Dangerman  Apr 12, 2021 • 4:40:48am

It’s such a relief to wake up in the morning and not to be constantly embarrassed by obnoxious over-inflated jerks

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steve_davis  Apr 12, 2021 • 4:41:43am

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Woman: “I will love you with all my heart.”
Cat: “Finally, someone who knows how to wear a goddamned mask.”

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Dangerman  Apr 12, 2021 • 4:43:16am

re: #278 steve_davis

“Where are you from?”
“I’m from here.”
“But where are you from from?”

LOL. Are there any other languages where you can do something like this to the grammar and have it actually make sense to everyone?

Easy Rider:

Where are you from, man?
Where are you from, man?

Hard to say.

Hard to say?
Where are you from, man?

It’s hard to say because
it’s a very long word, you know?

I just wanna know where you’re from.

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Targetpractice  Apr 12, 2021 • 4:48:24am

BWAHAHAHAHA:

CNN reports that Gaetz “was recently denied a meeting with Donald Trump at his Mar-a-Lago estate as the ex-President and his allies continue to distance themselves from the Florida congressman.”

Gaetz tried to meet with Trump shortly after learning he was under federal investigation for potential sex trafficking charges, but CNN’s sources say the former president’s aides advised him to “not stick his neck out to defend Gaetz.”

When Trump bails on your ass, even the rats go “Man, that guy was quick!”

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A Mom Anon  Apr 12, 2021 • 4:51:13am

Over the years, I have kind of lost interest in tv. Most shows are just not in the must see category. Then I got hooked on the vet and zoo shows on Nat Geo Wild a couple weeks ago. I think my fave is Dr. Oakley: Yukon Vet. And the new show about Alaska Wildlife Rescue, which is about at least 3 rescues that work together to rehabilitate all kinds of hurt and sick animals. Michelle Oakley is a bad ass. And smart. YMMV of course, but it helps pass the time when politics and news are too fucking annoying.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 12, 2021 • 4:52:33am

My wife: “what did you say?”

Me: “nothing—I was talking with the dog.”

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A Mom Anon  Apr 12, 2021 • 4:55:53am

re: #284 Barefoot Grin

This happens at my house pretty much daily, lol.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 12, 2021 • 4:57:14am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 12, 2021 • 5:45:49am

re: #248 Teukka

Another day, another racist…. バカ…

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It’s a damn shame she didn’t go all Bruce Lee on his dumb ass.

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jeffreyw  Apr 12, 2021 • 5:48:24am

Good morning!

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Dizzy  Apr 12, 2021 • 5:49:13am

re: #253 Dread Pirate Ron

Hah, I worked with a Dick Hymen in ‘77. Too young to be the same person, but I did go all Bevis and Butthead over his name. I also knew a Bud Wiser and Dick Head.

I worked with a real estate agent named Anita Hoare.

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Dangerman  Apr 12, 2021 • 5:55:21am

re: #282 Targetpractice

BWAHAHAHAHA:

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When Trump bails on your ass, even the rats go “Man, that guy was quick!”

Matt, you and josh mandel go sit at the punks table.
Too toxic for trump. I’m letting that sink in.

Though it Is funny that Gaetz truly thought trump would be there for him.
Given the kind of people Trump routinely hobnobs with open rejection is something.

otoh it could just mean that Trump has yet to see how there is anything in it for him— a universal precondition for Trump to do anything for anybody.

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lawhawk  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:00:31am

re: #282 Targetpractice

Trump and loyalty only work in one direction. You must be loyal to Trump. That’s all that matters to him. He shows zero loyalty to anyone else. That’s beyond him. He doesn’t care about anyone else or anything that isn’t Trump. It’s what you can do for him, not what he can do for you.

Gaetz is learning the hard way that it’s a one way ticket.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:05:14am

re: #283 A Mom Anon

Over the years, I have kind of lost interest in tv. Most shows are just not in the must see category. Then I got hooked on the vet and zoo shows on Nat Geo Wild a couple weeks ago. I think my fave is Dr. Oakley: Yukon Vet. And the new show about Alaska Wildlife Rescue, which is about at least 3 rescues that work together to rehabilitate all kinds of hurt and sick animals. Michelle Oakley is a bad ass. And smart. YMMV of course, but it helps pass the time when politics and news are too fucking annoying.

I love the Zoo shows. Informative and interesting without the Eating Other Animals part.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:14:04am

Good thread explaining the law surrounding the allegations against Matt Gaetz.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:16:04am

re: #290 Dangerman

Matt, you and josh mandel go sit at the punks table.
Too toxic for trump. I’m letting that sink in.

Though it Is funny that Gaetz truly thought trump would be there for him.
Given the kind of people Trump routinely hobnobs with open rejection is something.

otoh it could just mean that Trump has yet to see how there is anything in it for him— a universal precondition for Trump to do anything for anybody.

Unless Gaetz has something on Trump, there is nothing in protecting Gaetz for him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:17:01am

re: #289 Dizzy

I worked with a real estate agent named Anita Hoare.

So my company in Frankfurt had an American expat computer guy in whose last name was Gilligan.

I studiously avoided any “Drop those coconuts!” references until he had to get in between the two desks where our Macs were situated. I suggested that it would be easiest just to pull them apart so he could get in, and could not help but point out that this was in effect “Gilligan’s Aisle”.

I think he even smiled at that one, but was not about to acknowledge it.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:19:04am

re: #279 Dangerman

It’s such a relief to wake up in the morning and not to be constantly embarrassed by obnoxious over-inflated jerks

And John Cornyn isn’t happy!

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lawhawk  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:19:46am

re: #293 No Malarkey!

Key grafs:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:21:39am

re: #296 No Malarkey!

“Unimaginably conventional.”

You make it sound like that’s a bad thing when it’s coming from the President.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:24:53am

re: #250 teleskiguy

I need to go look and see if he did racist things or just had his normal tendency of not always thinking through what his statements actually meant.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:26:51am

re: #256 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

This is really pretty damned callous of Winslow and the gleeful commenters. The last year in particular has hardened many hearts, me included, but I am still not so far gone as to laugh at an idiot setting himself on fire. Fortunately he was not seriously injured.

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We were laughing at idiots setting themselves on fire, or injuring themselves by shooting lawnmowers filled with explosives, long before covid.

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lawhawk  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:29:16am

re: #298 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How dare someone not tweet out incitement to violence or spur on an insurrection to overthrow the government. How dare someone not use a tweet to demean, diminish, or spew hateful nonsense at political opponents. How dare someone not use a tweet to spew white nationalist claptrap.

Cornyn is the problem. He’s the GOP base that Trump relies on for power. He’s fine with Trump sabotaging government, because the end result is more tax cuts - same as always. That’s the one true outcome GOPers want above all else. Tax cuts. Too bad if the nation burns, collapses, or is overrun with a pandemic that kills 500,000+ due to the depraved indifference to the plight of millions.

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Dangerman  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:30:09am
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John Hughes  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:32:32am

re: #253 Dread Pirate Ron

Hah, I worked with a Dick Hymen in ‘77. Too young to be the same person, but I did go all Bevis and Butthead over his name. I also knew a Bud Wiser and Dick Head.

I once knew a woman called Madame Crotte Boudin. You did not mess with her.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:32:47am

re: #301 lawhawk

How dare someone not tweet out incitement to violence or spur on an insurrection to overthrow the government. How dare someone not use a tweet to demean, diminish, or spew hateful nonsense at political opponents. How dare someone not use a tweet to spew white nationalist claptrap.

Cornyn is the problem. He’s the GOP base that Trump relies on for power. He’s fine with Trump sabotaging government, because the end result is more tax cuts - same as always. That’s the one true outcome GOPers want above all else. Tax cuts. Too bad if the nation burns, collapses, or is overrun with a pandemic that kills 500,000+ due to the depraved indifference to the plight of millions.

It’s staggering that nearly 47% of voters voted for more of it.

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Dangerman  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:37:04am

re: #296 No Malarkey!

And John Cornyn isn’t happy!

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Cornyn stole that from politico almost word for word

The Biden White House media doctrine: Less can be more

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:42:29am

re: #304 No Malarkey!

It’s staggering that nearly 47% of voters voted for more of it.

and let us not forget that Trump got more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016, even after putting his Presidenting skills on full display for four years.

And had it not been for an unprecedented turnout on the Democrats’ part and a handful of GOP state election officers who still had a shred of integrity, he could well have pulled it off.

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makeitstop  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:42:48am

re: #283 A Mom Anon

Over the years, I have kind of lost interest in tv. Most shows are just not in the must see category. Then I got hooked on the vet and zoo shows on Nat Geo Wild a couple weeks ago. I think my fave is Dr. Oakley: Yukon Vet. And the new show about Alaska Wildlife Rescue, which is about at least 3 rescues that work together to rehabilitate all kinds of hurt and sick animals. Michelle Oakley is a bad ass. And smart. YMMV of course, but it helps pass the time when politics and news are too fucking annoying.

‘Secrets of the Zoo’ is really good, too. They do a whole season at one zoo, they did Bronx Zoo a couple of seasons back. It’s cool to see how they handle enormous animals and take care of them.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:42:58am
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Belafon  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:45:50am

The problem i see with this is have you met America:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:47:02am

Whoo. Big news:

The State of Rhineland-Palatinate is now offering vaccination appointments for over-60-year-olds. So I put in my request today. Germany is lagging badly with only 16% of its population vaccinated.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:47:03am

re: #254 teleskiguy

I worked at a golf course in high school, my boss’s name was Harry Johnson.

Had a teacher and football coach (and also school disciplinarian) named Dick Angle. We referred to him as Bent Penis. I also went to high school with a kid named Robin Hood.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:48:49am

re: #306 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and let us not forget that Trump got more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016, even after putting his Presidenting skills on full display for four years.

And had it not been for an unprecedented turnout on the Democrats’ part and a handful of GOP state election officers who still had a shred of integrity, he could well have pulled it off.

He fell less than 43k votes short of throwing the election into the House, which would’ve reelected him despite Biden winning the popular vote by 7 million votes.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:49:16am

re: #311 Eventual Carrion

Had a teacher and football coach (and also school disciplinarian) named Dick Angle. We referred to him as Bent Penis. I also went to high school with a kid named Robin Hood.

When I was at Pitt I met John Tomato, Roy Lettus and Larry Aygges. Used to joke about setting up a law firm with these guys…

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lawhawk  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:49:38am

re: #308 Belafon

Only problem is that Trump’s contracts explicitly prevent that from happening. He hamstrung Biden’s foreign policy all while ignoring that the US needs other countries to have their populations vaccinated in order to help keep us safe too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:50:32am

re: #312 No Malarkey!

He fell less than 43k votes short of throwing the election into the House, which would’ve reelected him despite Biden winning the popular vote by 7 million votes.

Or if enough state officials had played along we could have seen the same thing.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:51:01am

re: #314 lawhawk

Only problem is that Trump’s contracts explicitly prevent that from happening. He hamstrung Biden’s foreign policy all while ignoring that the US needs other countries to have their populations vaccinated in order to help keep us safe too.

I was glad to see we are releasing millions of doses of Astra Zeneca to Canada and Mexico.

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John Hughes  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:51:42am

re: #251 Targetpractice

PPOG made many “off colour” remarks in his life, a few of them that seem racist now, But how could you call him “bitter”?

The only thing he ever expressed any anger about that I know was that his children did not bear his name (what am I, an ameoba?) and once he got pissed off because a photographer was taking too long to take a photo (PPOG was in his 80s at the time and seriously needed to piss).

Fuck, if you’d asked me one of the least probably things I could imagine doing, defending PPOG would be near the top of the list.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:52:12am

re: #311 Eventual Carrion

Had a teacher and football coach (and also school disciplinarian) named Dick Angle. We referred to him as Bent Penis. I also went to high school with a kid named Robin Hood.

Went to church with a kind lady named Needa Light. Oh, the jokes we made about made-up relatives of hers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:52:24am

re: #316 No Malarkey!

I was glad to see we are releasing millions of doses of Astra Zeneca to Canada and Mexico.

There is still a concern that this disease could mutate into something more virulent, contagious or, God forbid, resistant to existing vaccines…then we would find ourselves chasing our own tail.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:53:25am

re: #318 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Went to church with a kind lady named Needa Light. Oh, the jokes we made about made-up relatives of hers.

Her son Bud?

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Dangerman  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:53:50am

re: #312 No Malarkey!

He fell less than 43k votes short of throwing the election into the House, which would’ve reelected him despite Biden winning the popular vote by 7 million votes.


45k in three states and he woulda won outright

nope.
my mistake

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:56:31am

Things are likely to get even nastier in Brooklyn Center, MN, I’m afraid. If protests continue it will undoubtedly attract chaos agents and wannabe militia men. I hope not.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:57:21am

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:57:43am

re: #322 Barefoot Grin

Things are likely to get even nastier in Brooklyn Center, MN, I’m afraid. If protests continue it will undoubtedly attract chaos agents and wannabe militia men. I hope not.

I saw that headline this morning and it instantly turned into one of those days I just don’t want to live here anymore. The local article I read said the victim had a warrant out for his arrest, which will undoubtedly be used to justify the shooting, but… God damn it, people.

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lawhawk  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:58:07am

re: #312 No Malarkey!

The House was majority Democrats in 2020.

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lawhawk  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:58:13am
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Dangerman  Apr 12, 2021 • 6:58:31am

re: #322 Barefoot Grin

Things are likely to get even nastier in Brooklyn Center, MN, I’m afraid. If protests continue it will undoubtedly attract chaos agents and wannabe militia men. I hope not.

Its like there’s a pattern or something

White cop
Not white driver
Traffic stop
Escalates to any excuse to shoot

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:02:36am

re: #319 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is still a concern that this disease could mutate into something more virulent, contagious or, God forbid, resistant to existing vaccines…then we would find ourselves chasing our own tail.

It is critical to get billions of people vaccinated as rapidly as possible, a daunting task.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:04:09am

re: #321 Dangerman

45k in three states and he woulda won outright

I don’t think so. Which three?

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:04:41am

re: #324 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

I saw that headline this morning and it instantly turned into one of those days I just don’t want to live here anymore. The local article I read said the victim had a warrant out for his arrest, which will undoubtedly be used to justify the shooting, but… God damn it, people.

Yes, I know there will be the usual “well actually he had it coming” types. I should wait for details, of course. But like you, it just makes me so sad.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:05:14am

re: #240 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:08:17am

re: #330 Barefoot Grin

Yes, I know there will be the usual “well actually he had it coming” types. I should wait for details, of course. But like you, it just makes me so sad.

I just can’t imagine how horrifying it must have been for his mother, with him on the phone, saying he was being pulled over, and the fear she must have felt for him in that moment, only for those fears to be realized when she called back later and was told he’d been shot.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:08:36am

re: #325 lawhawk

The House was majority Democrats in 2020.

When the presidential election is thrown to the House, each state gets only one vote, and the GOP controlled more state delegations.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:10:43am

re: #248 Teukka

Behold the master race. LOL at that schlub.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:11:05am
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Dangerman  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:13:13am

re: #329 No Malarkey!

I don’t think so. Which three?

sorry i misread what i was reading
43-45k would have thrown it to the house, etc.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:14:09am
More than 100 corporate executives hold call to discuss halting donations and investments to fight controversial voting bills

More than 100 chief executives and corporate leaders gathered online Saturday to discuss taking new action to combat the controversial state voting bills being considered across the country, including the one recently signed into law in Georgia.

Executives from major airlines, retailers and manufacturers — plus at least one NFL owner — talked about potential ways to show they opposed the legislation, including by halting donations to politicians who support the bills and even delaying investments in states that pass the restrictive measures, according to four people who were on the call, including one of the organizers, Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, a Yale management professor.

While no final steps were agreed upon, the meeting represents an aggressive dialing up of corporate America’s stand against controversial voting measures nationwide, a sign that their opposition to the laws didn’t end with the fight against the Georgia legislation passed in March.

washingtonpost.com

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:14:43am

re: #335 Belafon

We have to face it, because they are gearing up to try again in 2024. They plan to put Trump loyalists in position in swing states to give their electoral votes to Trump, regardless of how the people vote.

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Dangerman  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:16:13am

re: #331 Belafon

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they said he had an “outstanding warrant”
i cant find anything that says for what exactly

was he such a danger that there was no other solution?

these cops are becoming like everyone else
the gun is the only solution to every problem (hammer/nail)

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:16:16am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:16:42am

re: #335 Belafon

They really did try to overthrow US democracy. Might not have been a good plan, but they did. The leader of this effort, who they still follow, openly laments that it failed, and denounces those who didn’t help enough.
I get why people would rather not face that. But we have to.

Because we are likely to face it again.

They saw how close they came to succeeding and are not going to make the same mistakes twice.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:18:06am

re: #339 Dangerman

they said he had an “outstanding warrant”
i cant find anything that says for what exactly

was he such a danger that there was no other solution?

these cops are becoming like everyone else
the gun is the only solution to every problem (hammer/nail)

He was shot while trying to get back in his car, though the timing is not clear; I assume body cam footage would clear that up. (No idea if Brooklyn Center requires this. I’ll have to check.) I feel it’s more likely that they shot him just to stop him from escaping them, rather than out of fear.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:19:04am
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Belafon  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:20:03am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:21:53am

re: #340 Belafon

“Candidate Biden suggested he would be a moderate, transitional president. Nearly three months in, President Biden has blazed a different path, aiming to be a transformational president - using his narrow majority to ram through the biggest expansion of government since LBJ.”

Biden won by a record popular vote and a clear majority.

And if not for the way that gerrymandering and the nature of the Senate disproportionally favor the GOP, the Democratic majority would be much larger than it is reflected in Congressional seats.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:22:43am

re: #341 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They really did try to overthrow US democracy. Might not have been a good plan, but they did. The leader of this effort, who they still follow, openly laments that it failed, and denounces those who didn’t help enough.
I get why people would rather not face that. But we have to.

Because we are likely to face it again.

They saw how close they came to succeeding and are not going to make the same mistakes twice.

The problem they will run into is what we saw this weekend: They need turnout and their marches fizzled.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:24:08am

re: #343 No Malarkey!

Just for comparison: Germany, with a population of 86 million, has 709 seats in its Parliament

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:24:14am

re: #342 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

He was shot while trying to get back in his car, though the timing is not clear; I assume body cam footage would clear that up. (No idea if Brooklyn Center requires this. I’ll have to check.) I feel it’s more likely that they shot him just to stop him from escaping them, rather than out of fear.

He was a black man, so they feared him. And shooting him just to keep him from escaping is like a really bad reason.

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Dangerman  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:24:25am

re: #340 Belafon

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Alternate alternate

Biden is doing what’s popular with voters and ignoring what 50 R senators want…
And what they want is to obstruct anything and everything

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Dangerman  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:26:00am

re: #348 Belafon

He was a black man, so they feared him. And shooting him just to keep him from escaping is like a really bad reason.

Ding!

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:26:33am

re: #346 Belafon

The problem they will run into is what we saw this weekend: They need turnout and their marches fizzled.

If they get the right laws enacted and right officials in place, they will give swing state electoral votes to Trump regardless of how the people vote. Then chaos.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:28:10am

re: #348 Belafon

He was a black man, so they feared him. And shooting him just to keep him from escaping is like a really bad reason.

Unless he was wanted for a violent offense and was considered armed and dangerous.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:38:35am

re: #352 No Malarkey!

Unless he was wanted for a violent offense and was considered armed and dangerous.

Which were the excuses the police gave AFTER shooting the guy in the back as he was climbing in his van in that earlier incident.

Just remember why they pulled him over: He had an air freshener hanging from his rear view mirror.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:40:07am
This is a column about the possible decline of economists in the marketplace of ideas, so it seems fitting to start it by talking about a political scientist.

Yale University’s Stephen Skowronek has explained the Trump presidency better than other theories (including mine). His theory places Donald Trump in the “disjunctive presidency” bin, the same category as John Quincy Adams and Jimmy Carter: presidents who take office as the exhausted heir of a bankrupt political ideology. These presidencies, by performing so badly, are usually followed by “transformative presidencies” that lead the country in a decidedly different direction.

In an interview in October with the Nation’s Richard Kreitner, Skowronek suggested that if Joe Biden won, he might surprise people: “Joe Biden is possibly the least likely reconstructive leader you can imagine, and yet I’m not giving up on him completely.” He concluded, “In some ways, having a moderate with a reconstructive movement or coalition at his back is exactly where you want to be.”

washingtonpost.com

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darthstar  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:40:10am
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🌹UOJB!  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:46:25am

re: #355 darthstar

Crackhead Mike:

Fox won’t tell you but I will.

You’re an asshole!

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:47:01am

re: #356 🌹UOJB!

Crackhead Mike:

Fox won’t tell you but I will.

You’re an asshole!

That doesn’t disqualify you from Fox though.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:49:45am

re: #357 Belafon

That doesn’t disqualify you from Fox though.

When Dominion and Smartmatic get done with Crackhead Mike he’s going to wind up just like this guy!

Born a poor black child

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darthstar  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:56:16am
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darthstar  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:56:34am

re: #358 🌹UOJB!

When Dominion and Smartmatic get done with Crackhead Mike he’s going to wind up just like this guy!

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I’m okay with this.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:56:35am

Another Pulpit Pimping asshole.

Uh, there is no Presidency Seat in Hay-Venn, Pimp!

Johnny Enlow Says Trump Is Sitting in ‘The Presidency Seat in Heaven’

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:57:32am

re: #355 darthstar

Yep, doesn’t take a PI to figure out that Fox News has billions of reasons to not put Lindell on the air. He should hire the investigators Trump sent to Hawaii to find Obama’s “real” birth certificate no-one ever heard from afterwards.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:58:17am

re: #355 darthstar

I’m surprised bannon isn’t concerned about being sued.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 7:59:33am

re: #359 darthstar

This has actually been reported as a problem by the Washington Post. Immigrants are being denied shots for not having IDs, even though that’s not required.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:02:10am

OT I am home today waiting for a package. I used a vacation day so that I could wait for said package. I got a call from a supervisor asking me why I have not answered my radio. Fortunately it is a supervisor whom I have worked with before and who knows me fairly well. This is not how I wanted to start my day off.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:04:29am

Matt no matter how hard you try you ain’t Silvio!

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:04:54am

re: #288 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

Just about grown
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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:06:47am
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plansbandc  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:08:38am

re: #253 Dread Pirate Ron

We had a substitute for our sex ed class in high school. Miss Hymen.

Just try to imagine the hilarity.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:09:33am

re: #225 Belafon

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:11:08am

re: #361 🌹UOJB!

Another Pulpit Pimping asshole.

Uh, there is no Presidency Seat in Hay-Venn, Pimp!

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Wow, isn’t that like flat out blasphemy?

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:11:17am

re: #368 No Malarkey!

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:11:56am

re: #361 🌹UOJB!

When did Trump die, and who did he bribe to get to heaven?

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Dangerman  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:14:35am

re: #352 No Malarkey!

Unless he was wanted for a violent offense and was considered armed and dangerous.

then they should have controlled him from the minute he stepped out of his vehicle

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:14:55am

re: #266 Targetpractice

Is it wrong that I had more fun playing RTCW’s multiplayer mode back in the day than I had actually playing the single player campaign?

I’d say no. I play Arma 3 exclusively multiplayer and have done almost literally none of the single player materials, which is sort of extensive with the various DLCs.

A large part of that I think is that multiplayer, and especially cooperative multiplayer*, is much more of a community experience than the gaming experience itself**. And the gaming groups I interact with are relatively broad*** and discuss a lot of things in their private forums (usually Discord at this point.)

* - I’m not a fan of PvP stuff. In part because I am awful with it in first-person shooters. Plus I play to not be massively stressed for hours at a time.

** - Which leads into discussions of toxic gaming communities and how for a lot of multiplayer games (especially public server ones) you are better off playing with a bunch of friends you know about rather than a group of total strangers.

*** - Well, fairly good distribution of city/country of origin and some spread in age. Gender-wise, still overwhelmingly male. The verbal insult tossing web between the various European players based on country (or city) is an interesting mess.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:15:09am

re: #373 Punish Domestic Terrorists

When did Trump die, and who did he bribe to get to heaven?

He’s killing off his followers so that he has an army to storm the gate.

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Dangerman  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:16:28am

re: #359 darthstar

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sean, does the virus ask for ID?

nitwit

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:17:05am

re: #371 Eventual Carrion

Wow, isn’t that like flat out blasphemy?

Pulpit Pimp doubles down on his bullshit!

Johnny Enlow Says Trump Is ‘Recognized From Heaven’ as the Legitimate President

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A Cranky One  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:17:42am

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:19:14am

re: #295 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So my company in Frankfurt had an American expat computer guy in whose last name was Gilligan.

I studiously avoided any “Drop those coconuts!” references until he had to get in between the two desks where our Macs were situated. I suggested that it would be easiest just to pull them apart so he could get in, and could not help but point out that this was in effect “Gilligan’s Aisle”.

I think he even smiled at that one, but was not about to acknowledge it.

I would presume he’d been hearing those jokes since he was a wee lad.

My last name is one that leads to all sorts of quippy remarks and I once offered a co-worker $5 if he came up with one I hadn’t heard before.* I never paid out.

* - Sounds counterproductive? Maybe, but it had him thinking about them rather than just constantly tossing them out.

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Ming5000  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:19:56am

re: #204 Belafon

Better late than never: Police officer resp. for pepper spraying Lt. Caron Nazario has been fired.

As Soledad O’Brian noted, “Fired once the video went viral.” The incident occurred Dec. 5, 2020.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:20:11am

re: #301 lawhawk

How dare someone not tweet out incitement to violence or spur on an insurrection to overthrow the government. How dare someone not use a tweet to demean, diminish, or spew hateful nonsense at political opponents. How dare someone not use a tweet to spew white nationalist claptrap.

Cornyn is the problem. He’s the GOP base that Trump relies on for power. He’s fine with Trump sabotaging government, because the end result is more tax cuts - same as always. That’s the one true outcome GOPers want above all else. Tax cuts. Too bad if the nation burns, collapses, or is overrun with a pandemic that kills 500,000+ due to the depraved indifference to the plight of millions.

Well, he sat there and toss platitudes when Texas froze just a short time ago.

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darthstar  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:21:07am
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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:21:36am

re: #380 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I would presume he’d been hearing those jokes since he was a wee lad.

My last name is one that leads to all sorts of quippy remarks and I once offered a co-worker $5 if he came up with one I hadn’t heard before.* I never paid out.

* - Sounds counterproductive? Maybe, but it had him thinking about them rather than just constantly tossing them out.

My first name is like that. The last time I had someone with a new one was my orthodontist when I was a teenager.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:22:23am

re: #380 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I would presume he’d been hearing those jokes since he was a wee lad.

I think that one of the reasons Mr Gilligan left the ‘States was to escape them.

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lawhawk  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:24:31am

re: #369 plansbandc

We had a substitute for our sex ed class in high school. Miss Hymen.

Just try to imagine the hilarity.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:25:12am

re: #383 darthstar

Hmm. That appears to be an insult to Jabba.

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lawhawk  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:25:22am

re: #383 darthstar

Bad analogy. C3PO serves a valid and useful purpose. Scott is a treasonweasel enabler who made a fortune bilking the government out of billions in Medicare fraud and never spent a day in jail.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:26:32am

re: #381 Ming5000

Better late than never: Police officer resp. for pepper spraying Lt. Caron Nazario has been fired.

As Soledad O’Brian noted, “Fired once the video went viral.” The incident occurred Dec. 5, 2020.

In other words not fired for doing it, but for getting caught at it in a way that isn’t readily deniable.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:28:29am

re: #379 A Cranky One

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I heard Matt’s answer in Zap Brannigan’s voice.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:28:34am

re: #384 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

My first name is like that. The last time I had someone with a new one was my orthodontist when I was a teenager.

The constant teasing I had in High School hell because of my last name. And the teachers doubled down on the teasing.

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A Cranky One  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:29:38am

Growing up, my parents called me by my middle name, which is unusual.

My grandmother never got it right. She always called me “thing” and couldn’t understand why my parents named me that.

On the positive side that may explain why I’m so handy.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:30:22am

re: #391 🌹UOJB!

The constant teasing I had in High School hell because of my last name. And the teachers doubled down on the teasing.

Last time I sat on a jury as an alternate the judge made a joke on my last name when I was dismissed. I decided that was *not* the time to make an issue of it.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:31:09am

re: #392 A Cranky One

Growing up, my parents called me by my middle name, which is unusual.

My grandmother never got it right. She always called me “thing” and couldn’t understand why my parents named me that.

On the positive side that may explain why I’m so handy.

I have a acquaintance from college who refers to her children as “Thing 1” and “Thing 2”.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:33:18am
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austin_blue  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:37:03am

re: #392 A Cranky One

Growing up, my parents called me by my middle name, which is unusual.

My grandmother never got it right. She always called me “thing” and couldn’t understand why my parents named me that.

On the positive side that may explain why I’m so handy.

Wait wait…

Your middle name is “Pipewrench”?

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Ming5000  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:37:07am

Pre-CL’d fun: good thread 😂

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:41:55am

re: #397 Ming5000

I had an outstanding, witty and engaged Russian professor at ASU. But then at one point I recall he seemed listless and burnt out and totally inattentive. I wondered what happened.

This was 1980, right after the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and it seems that the US intelligence services were keeping him up late trying to make sense of intercepts that they could not translate.

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A Three Hour Tour  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:55:06am

re: #380 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I would presume he’d been hearing those jokes since he was a wee lad.

My last name is one that leads to all sorts of quippy remarks and I once offered a co-worker $5 if he came up with one I hadn’t heard before.* I never paid out.

* - Sounds counterproductive? Maybe, but it had him thinking about them rather than just constantly tossing them out.

I’ve been hearing it all my life, even though the last syllable of my family’s variant of the name is spelled with a “ki” instead of a “ga.” There are family members who, despite the variant spelling, do pronounce the name as “Gilligan.”*

it also didn’t help being short, clumsy, and seemingly surrounded by an improbability field that made one the walking embodiment of Murphy’s Law.

* Oddly enough, the historic occupation of the American branch from which I’m descended is boatbuilding.

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ericblair  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:55:25am

re: #354 Belafon

In an interview in October with the Nation’s Richard Kreitner, Skowronek suggested that if Joe Biden won, he might surprise people: “Joe Biden is possibly the least likely reconstructive leader you can imagine, and yet I’m not giving up on him completely.” He concluded, “In some ways, having a moderate with a reconstructive movement or coalition at his back is exactly where you want to be.”

I don’t think Biden is moderate in the Nation-magazine-insult sense; he’s just not performatively leftie, so the left decided he was a centrist sellout.

Plus, unlike Obama and Clinton, he’s the furthest thing from a n00b in Washington politics. This means that the GOP can bullshit him into slow-walking things he wants to do, or rope-a-dope him into watering down initiatives with empty promises of support, and he is quite aware of the power he has and hasn’t got.

I like that they have (correctly) decided to talk about nonpartisanship instead of bipartisanship. We’ve gotten so used to the framing that everything has to be blessed by a bunch of good-ol-boy/girl GOP senators, whether they are in power or not, that “we’re going to do something because seventy-something percent of the people think it should be done” is jarring. You know, maybe it’s the GOP senate that’s out of touch, how about that?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 8:59:27am

re: #400 ericblair

Our press grew used to waking up each morning to a fresh new outrageous tweet or juicy scandal.

They really don”t know what to do now that their job is to report on real news and events.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:01:50am

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:04:29am

re: #402 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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Kentucky has set a goal of getting 2.5 million of our 4.5 million people vaccinated to lift capacity restrictions, but not the mask mandate.

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Jay C  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:05:36am

re: #400 ericblair

I don’t think Biden is moderate in the Nation-magazine-insult sense; he’s just not performatively leftie, so the left decided he was a centrist sellout.

Plus, unlike Obama and Clinton, he’s the furthest thing from a n00b in Washington politics. This means that the GOP can bullshit him into slow-walking things he wants to do, or rope-a-dope him into watering down initiatives with empty promises of support, and he is quite aware of the power he has and hasn’t got.

I like that they have (correctly) decided to talk about nonpartisanship instead of bipartisanship. We’ve gotten so used to the framing that everything has to be blessed by a bunch of good-ol-boy/girl GOP senators, whether they are in power or not, that “we’re going to do something because seventy-something percent of the people think it should be done” is jarring. You know, maybe it’s the GOP senate that’s out of touch, how about that?

Do you mean “can” or “can’t” in your second paragraph? Because a relative imperviousness to GOP bullshit seems be one of Joe’s hallmark characteristics (however well he hides it behind the “comity” rhetoric).

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:05:41am

re: #401 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Our press isgrew used to waking up each morning to a fresh new outrageous tweet or juicy scandal.

They really don”t know what to do now that their job is to report on real news and events.

Check with the GQP and Fox News for their daily talking points.

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John Hughes  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:06:21am

re: #325 lawhawk

The House was majority Democrats in 2020.

Irrelevant — a contingent election is not decided by a majority vote of representatives, but by a majority vote of state contingents.

What idiotic group of monkeys wrote this joke of a constitution anyway?

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:06:28am

re: #403 No Malarkey!

Kentucky has set a goal of getting 2.5 million of our 4.5 million people vaccinated to lift capacity restrictions, but not the mask mandate.

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Shouldn’t vaccinated mean that the person has received all of the doses they are supposed to get (two for Moderna/Fizer, one for J&J)? are they expecting to hit that mark?

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:07:06am

re: #406 John Hughes

Irrelevant — a contingent election is not decided by a majority vote of representatives, but by a majority vote of state contingents.

What idiotic group of monkeys wrote this joke of a constitution anyway?

People who thought those elected to office would do the right thing.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:10:24am

Pulpit Pimp-0-Rama continues with Jeff Jansen…the same asshole who said God will put Trump back in the White House during the last week of April…and he boasts that his church ushers will kill…

rightwingwatch.org

‘Prophet’ Jeff Jansen’s Ushers Will Not Hesitate to Shoot Anyone Who Tries to ‘Pull Something’

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John Hughes  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:12:55am

re: #352 No Malarkey!

Unless he was wanted for a violent offense and was considered armed and dangerous.

Considered? By who?

Judge, jury and executioner?

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John Hughes  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:14:42am

re: #354 Belafon

His theory places Donald Trump in the “disjunctive presidency” bin, the same category as John Quincy Adams and Jimmy Carter: presidents who take office as the exhausted heir of a bankrupt political ideology.

I’d love to know in what way Jimmy Carter was the “exhausted heir of a bankrupt political ideology”.

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John Hughes  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:16:24am

re: #361 🌹UOJB!

Wait, he’s saying Trump is dead? So who’s in Mar-a-Largo? A clone?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:18:33am

re: #405 No Malarkey!

Check with the GQP and Fox News for their daily talking points.

I look in regularly at newsmax to see what the current RWTPs are

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John Hughes  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:19:01am

re: #371 Eventual Carrion

Wow, isn’t that like flat out blasphemy?

Oh, come on, if you’re going to accuse American “Christians” of blasphemy we’d run out of wood for the bonfires.

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A Three Hour Tour  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:19:19am

re: #406 John Hughes

Irrelevant — a contingent election is not decided by a majority vote of representatives, but by a majority vote of state contingents.

What idiotic group of monkeys wrote this joke of a constitution anyway?

The Constitutional Convention of 1787, presided over by George Washington. James Madison drafted the document, and it was the product of months of argument and compromise among the delegates, including Benjamin Franklin and Alexander Hamilton.

The convention was called to rejigger the ineffective and unworkable Articles of Confederation. Essentially, they locked the doors, worked in secret, and overthrew the existing weak central government and replaced it with a stronger federalized central government.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:19:22am

re: #412 John Hughes

Wait, he’s saying Trump is dead? So who’s in Mar-a-Largo? A clone?

We know what’s in Mar-A-Lardo—a fucking traitorous crook!

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William Lewis  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:20:44am

48 hours since Pfizer #2. My arm is sore but really I only notice it if something presses against the injection site. Yay me!

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EstebanTornado1963  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:30:04am

We had our 2 week period since the 2nd Pfizer dose on Saturday. Went out to dinner, still didn’t feel comfortable around other people even though I’m pretty confident we’re safe.
It’s all the other people out who, who knows their status and I’m pretty sure the place was more crowded than the mandates. (I’m in Vegas)
I still was masking up while not eating, if that makes me a sheep, so be it.

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John Hughes  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:30:10am

re: #408 Belafon

People who thought those elected to office would do the right thing.

Like I said…

But your theory doesn’t explain the the weird random rules. Actual political horse trading between politician who knew they weren’t really on the same side on many things does.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:32:38am

re: #406 John Hughes

Irrelevant — a contingent election is not decided by a majority vote of representatives, but by a majority vote of state contingents.

What idiotic group of monkeys wrote this joke of a constitution anyway?

It was cobbled together to reassure the slavers that the majority wouldn’t end their evil institution. It kind of worked for 70 years, until the free states had enough votes to elect a President without the slave states, who promptly dissolved the union so they could continue to expand their slave empire. In hindsight, the Civil War Amendments should’ve abolished the electoral college.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:32:42am

re: #411 John Hughes

I’d love to know in what way Jimmy Carter was the “exhausted heir of a bankrupt political ideology”.

In the case of the Democratic Party in the 70s, it was a party torn between the old racists and those that were supporting rights for minorities and only held together because of the party’s support for the New Deal. it’s wasn’t the New Deal that was the issue, it was that the two groups could be held together with duct tape and wire.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:34:07am

Someone posted this and it showed up on my FB. It’s lovely. Moroccan.

AZA, Imzzi

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:34:40am

re: #407 Belafon

Shouldn’t vaccinated mean that the person has received all of the doses they are supposed to get (two for Moderna/Fizer, one for J&J)? are they expecting to hit that mark?

No, their goal of lifting capacity restrictions is 2.5 million with at least one dose. Which does confer a lot of protection from serious illness.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:35:32am

re: #420 No Malarkey!

It was cobbled together to reassure the slavers that the majority wouldn’t end their evil institution. It kind of worked for 70 years, until the free states had enough votes to elect a President without the slave states, who promptly dissolved the union so they could continue to expand their slave empire. In hindsight, the Civil War Amendments should’ve abolished the electoral college.

Which is where we are now. Things were “stable” (for white people) as long as a majority of white people were needed to win. Now that it doesn’t take a majority of whites to win, the white people party has decided it’s time to end democracy.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:36:20am

re: #413 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I look in regularly at newsmax to see what the current RWTPs are

I look at the headlines on realclear politics.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:36:34am

re: #424 Belafon

Which is where we are now. Things were “stable” (for white people) as long as a majority of white people were needed to win. Now that it doesn’t take a majority of whites to win, the white people party has decided it’s time to end democracy.

You summed up the abortive Coup Attempt of 2021 very concisely there.

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lawhawk  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:38:01am

re: #415 A Three Hour Tour

The Constitutional Convention of 1787, presided over by George Washington. James Madison drafted the document, and it was the product of months of argument and compromise among the delegates, including Benjamin Franklin and Alexander Hamilton.

The convention was called to rejigger the ineffective and unworkable Articles of Confederation. Essentially, they locked the doors, worked in secret, and overthrew the existing weak central government and replaced it with a stronger federalized central government.

Only those guys were in the room where it happened, and Hamilton became strongest proponent of the Federalist approach to support the Constitution and new government.

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John Hughes  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:39:13am

re: #415 A Three Hour Tour

it was the product of months of argument and compromise among the delegates, including Benjamin Franklin and Alexander Hamilton.

And some other people who we don’t like to talk about so much.

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Jay C  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:41:22am

re: #415 A Three Hour Tour

The Constitutional Convention of 1787, presided over by George Washington. James Madison drafted the document, and it was the product of months of argument and compromise among the delegates, including Benjamin Franklin and Alexander Hamilton.

The convention was called to rejigger the ineffective and unworkable Articles of Confederation. Essentially, they locked the doors, worked in secret, and overthrew the existing weak central government and replaced it with a stronger federalized central government.

Well, “stronger” is a relative term (the Federal Government of the US as set up in 1789 would seem astonishingly limited by today’s standards/expectations) - but then, it was still a vast improvement over the Articles of Confederation. However, the drafters of the Constitution DID have to deal with the holdover attitudes of state governments (most of which dated back to pre-Revolutionary times), and there were numerous [what we would call] kludges which had to built in to guarantee the states some modicum of “sovereignty”: the provisions for the “contingent election” procedures in the House (and the original election of Senators by state Legislatures) are a couple of them.

430
O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:41:40am

re: #418 EstebanTornado1963

We had our 2 week period since the 2nd Pfizer dose on Saturday. Went out to dinner, still didn’t feel comfortable around other people even though I’m pretty confident we’re safe.
It’s all the other people out who, who knows their status and I’m pretty sure the place was more crowded than the mandates. (I’m in Vegas)
I still was masking up while not eating, if that makes me a sheep, so be it.

I plan on wearing a mask in public until the state mask mandate is revoked; here in Minnesota, that should be safe, as we are in little danger of our Senate Republicans overpowering the governor and the Democratic House and ending things early.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:41:56am

re: #410 John Hughes

Considered? By who?

Judge, jury and executioner?

If there was a warrant for his arrest for homicide or another serious, violent felony. Otherwise, there was no excuse to use deadly force just to restrain him, IMO.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:43:13am

re: #418 EstebanTornado1963

We had our 2 week period since the 2nd Pfizer dose on Saturday. Went out to dinner, still didn’t feel comfortable around other people even though I’m pretty confident we’re safe.
It’s all the other people out who, who knows their status and I’m pretty sure the place was more crowded than the mandates. (I’m in Vegas)
I still was masking up while not eating, if that makes me a sheep, so be it.

It makes you responsible.

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lawhawk  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:45:43am

re: #431 No Malarkey!

If there was a warrant for his arrest for homicide or another serious, violent felony. Otherwise, there was no excuse to use deadly force just to restrain him, IMO.

Reports indicate the predicate reason for the stop was hanging air fresheners from the rear view mirror, which is a MN infraction. How we get from that to straight up shooting the driver is unclear. Having an outstanding warrant shouldn’t result in a death sentence either.

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EstebanTornado1963  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:45:45am

re: #430 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

My girlfriend just did that back test where they test for allergies, and she’s allergic to everything 😆. She said that she will be wearing a mask since we golf a lot. I can see a lot of people wearing masks during flu season since the flu was virtually nonexistent last year.

435
jaunte  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:46:56am

Jen Psaki responds just now to a question about John Cornyn’s tweet:

She’s happy to confirm that President Biden doesn’t spend his time tweeting conspiracy theories, but working for the American people.

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John Hughes  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:46:57am

re: #431 No Malarkey!

If there was a warrant for his arrest for homicide or another serious, violent felony. Otherwise, there was no excuse to use deadly force just to restrain him, IMO.

Frankly, for the point of view of non-US policing there is never any excuse for the use of deadly force to “restrain” someone.

Deadly force is allowed if someone’s life is being actually threatened. An “outstanding warrant” is purely irrelevant, whatever it is for.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:47:47am

re: #429 Jay C

Well, “stronger” is a relative term (the Federal Government of the US as set up in 1789 would seem astonishingly limited by today’s standards/expectations) - but then, it was still a vast improvement over the Articles of Confederation. However, the drafters of the Constitution DID have to deal with the holdover attitudes of state governments (most of which dated back to pre-Revolutionary times), and there were numerous [what we would call] kludges which had to built in to guarantee the states some modicum of “sovereignty”: the provisions for the “contingent election” procedures in the House (and the original election of Senators by state Legislatures) are a couple of them.

The state powers sort of held up until the 1920s when the Equal Protection clause of the 14th Amendment was pretty much held in a series of Supreme Court decisions to apply to the states in addition to the federal government. And inter-state commerce was also much more important as well by then and thus had an effect as well since there was federal oversight on that.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:48:17am

re: #433 lawhawk

Reports indicate the predicate reason for the stop was hanging air fresheners from the rear view mirror, which is a MN infraction. How we get from that to straight up shooting the driver is unclear. Having an outstanding warrant shouldn’t result in a death sentence either.

It could be justified if the warrant was for homicide or armed robbery, for example. You don’t want to just let an armed murderer go. At this point, I have no idea what the arrest warrant was for.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:48:23am

re: #433 lawhawk

Reports indicate the predicate reason for the stop was hanging air fresheners from the rear view mirror, which is a MN infraction. How we get from that to straight up shooting the driver is unclear. Having an outstanding warrant shouldn’t result in a death sentence either.

Not gonna lie, I actually had no idea that was the case. But, hey, I’m white, I can get away with it.

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lawhawk  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:50:07am
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No Malarkey!  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:51:04am

re: #436 John Hughes

Frankly, for the point of view of non-US policing there is never any excuse for the use of deadly force to “restrain” someone.

Deadly force is allowed if someone’s life is being actually threatened. An “outstanding warrant” is purely irrelevant, whatever it is for.

Well, I mean if John Dillinger is fleeing you, you can’t just let him go.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:51:42am

re: #440 lawhawk

Well said. This is how a real administration works.

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lawhawk  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:51:54am

re: #438 No Malarkey!

It could be justified if the warrant was for homicide or armed robbery, for example. You don’t want to just let an armed murderer go. At this point, I have no idea what the arrest warrant was for.

No. It’s not justified. You can arrest without shooting someone. You can execute a warrant without killing someone. We don’t know if he was armed or not.

We know cops can take armed suspects into custody without shots fired. It happens all the time.

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gwangung  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:51:58am

re: #436 John Hughes

Frankly, for the point of view of non-US policing there is never any excuse for the use of deadly force to “restrain” someone.

Deadly force is allowed if someone’s life is being actually threatened. An “outstanding warrant” is purely irrelevant, whatever it is for.

I thought the legal standard for the US was IMMINENT danger?

When did this change?????

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:52:42am

re: #444 gwangung

I thought the legal standard for the US was IMMINENT danger?

When did this change?????

When a white police officer decided to shoot a Black man just because he was trying to get away.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:54:10am


I’ve always been fascinated by what one person’s lifetime can encompass. This photo seems like the remote past, and it is when you consider everything that has happened since 1917, but there are a few people still alive who were alive then. It is a source of wonder.

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John Hughes  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:55:48am

re: #438 No Malarkey!

It could be justified if the warrant was for homicide or armed robbery, for example. You don’t want to just let an armed murderer go.

If there was a warrant out for homicide or armed robbery just means someone has accused him of that. Killing him because he doesn’t stop when you tell him to stop is totally unjustified.

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ericblair  Apr 12, 2021 • 9:58:58am

re: #404 Jay C

Do you mean “can” or “can’t” in your second paragraph? Because a relative imperviousness to GOP bullshit seems be one of Joe’s hallmark characteristics (however well he hides it behind the “comity” rhetoric).

Ha, yes, should be “can’t” but I “can’t” change it now. Yeah, no malarky.

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John Hughes  Apr 12, 2021 • 10:01:56am

re: #441 No Malarkey!

Well, I mean if John Dillinger is fleeing you, you can’t just let him go.

Dillinger, it is claimed, drew a gun when confronted by the police, that would normally be considered justification for use of deadly force.

As to whether you should “let him go” if he just tries to run — of course not, you run after him. (And, if you’re not stupid, you have someone waiting to catch him when he runs). But shooting someone because they run? WTF.

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John Hughes  Apr 12, 2021 • 10:03:33am

re: #445 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

When a white police officer decided to shoot a Black man just because he was trying to get away.


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