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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 1, 2021 • 10:13:17am

Because this information needs to be disseminated:

re: #158 Belafon

Define reliably, Senator, because 100% doesn’t apply to any vaccine if a significant amount of the population refuses to get vaccinated.

Measles vaccine efficacy — depending on study, etc. — under 95% efficacious
Mumps vaccine efficacy — depending on study, etc. — under 88% efficacious
Pertussis (whooping cough) — 80-90% efficacious

I can go on — Fuck. Those. Assholes.

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 1, 2021 • 10:13:30am
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JOE 🥓  Nov 1, 2021 • 10:15:16am

It goes back to Pruneface Reagan, Stockman and Gramm slashing the Section 8 budget in 1981. Homelessness really began to spike when housing assistance was cut. Of course those assholes kept repeating the “private charity is more efficient” bullshit which Pruneface mainstreamed.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 1, 2021 • 10:16:54am

re: #3 JOE 🥓

It goes back to Pruneface Reagan, Stockman and Gramm slashing the Section 8 budget in 1981. Homelessness really began to spike when housing assistance was cut. Of course those assholes kept repeating the “private charity is more efficient” bullshit which Pruneface mainstreamed.

Private charity is more likely to be recruitment for a theocratic death cult, which is why members of the cult think it’s better than being a civilized nation.

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JOE 🥓  Nov 1, 2021 • 10:26:54am

re: #2 BlueSpotinAL

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Let me guess-Abbott is going to electrify the fence…

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KingKenrod  Nov 1, 2021 • 10:27:27am

Don’t know if she was vaxxed, but Buffy’s is in trouble. Her twitter timeline is full of RW brain rot.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 1, 2021 • 10:28:11am

re: #5 JOE 🥓

Let me guess-Abbott is going to electrify the fence…

Probably add some laser-sharks to the Rio Grand…

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 1, 2021 • 10:30:51am

re: #6 KingKenrod

Don’t know if she was vaxxed, but Buffy’s is in trouble. Her twitter timeline is full of RW brain rot.

Probably not. This is not the good Buffy.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 10:33:19am
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Belafon  Nov 1, 2021 • 10:35:58am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

What’s supposed to be happening?

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A Mom Anon  Nov 1, 2021 • 10:40:48am

re: #10 Belafon

Evil democrats impersonating tiki torch sporting Nazis. I don’t get why any liberal would do this, and I have no idea who they are, but it’s stupid. There’s plenty of Nazi lovers out there, no need to make shit up.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 1, 2021 • 10:40:49am

re: #10 Belafon

What’s supposed to be happening?

Dunning Kruger effect in real time: Repugs once again demonstrating their inherently limited intelligence. The torch lady and her gang were obviously mocking Youngkin and his brain dead supporters. It is as obvious as the guys who dressed up in Russian uniforms to guard Cheeto’s star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Poor stupid dupes think they have seen through a clever liberal attempt at a false flag, having no idea how obvious it is to the rest of us.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 10:42:49am
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sagehen  Nov 1, 2021 • 10:46:40am

re: #4 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Private charity is more likely to be recruitment for a theocratic death cult, which is why members of the cult think it’s better than being a civilized nation.

also, during recessions and economic meltdowns, when assistance is most desperately needed, is exactly when charitable donations drop off.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 10:47:51am
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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2021 • 10:49:39am

re: #196 steve_davis

funnily enough, even if england and the u.s. had stayed out of the war, Russia would eventually, slowly have ground down the Nazis. The Nazis lost freakin’ millions of soldiers at Leningrad and Stalingrad. Hitler could have fed more divisions into both and it ultimately would have come out the same.

In the unlikely scenario that Lord Halifax’s proposed armistice was accepted, the result would have been an Eastern Front even more of a meat grinder than it was in our timeline. Without direct aid from the British and US, the USSR would have been a far more dire spot for everything from armor to aircraft to strategic supplies. You’d be looking at a war drug out for months, if not years longer than actually happened and the death toll would have been ruinous.

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Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)  Nov 1, 2021 • 10:50:22am

Welp. That’s about enough internet for today, I think …

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 10:53:40am
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JOE 🥓  Nov 1, 2021 • 10:55:16am

re: #17 Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)

So Ricky is calling for another coup on Veterans Day.

Has the FBI paid him a visit to pull that Silver Spoon out of his mouth?

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JOE 🥓  Nov 1, 2021 • 10:59:28am

re: #18 Charles Johnson

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Dennis Prager has always been a racist.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:02:02am
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JOE 🥓  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:04:20am

re: #21 Charles Johnson

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:04:24am

re: #18 Charles Johnson

“If no one saw skin color then everything would be perfect.”

1. No, everything wouldn’t be perfect.
2. We don’t live in the world where people don’t see skin color.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:05:09am

NYT political reporters are some of the most arrogant people I’ve ever encountered.

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:06:38am

re: #18 Charles Johnson

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I don’t consider the term “colorblind” when used in the context of racial discrimination as “racist” so much as I think of it as “privileged.” As in the people who tend to use that term are those who are privileged enough to have never faced racial discrimination in their own lives or associated with those who have, so that when they hear cases of such they find themselves concluding that the discrimination is not racial in nature but due to some character flaw or past behavior.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:08:09am

re: #23 Belafon

If no one saw skin color, they’d choose some other factor as a basis for discrimination.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:08:10am
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Amory Blaine  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:08:18am
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retired cynic  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:08:24am

Treasury Secretary Yellen expresses openness to defusing debt ceiling without GOP votes
After some party leaders ruled out approach last month, Yellen says Democrats-only budget process could prove ‘viable’ way to tackle debt limit
washingtonpost.com

Yellen knows whereof she speaks. I would follow her lead, and abolish the debt ceiling. In whatever way possible. The bipartisan path is just fun and games for Republicans now.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:08:49am

re: #23 Belafon

“If no one saw skin color then everything would be perfect.”

1. No, everything wouldn’t be perfect.
2. We don’t live in the world where people don’t see skin color.

Most people would rather have their skin color or disability acknowledged rather than dismissed. It’s like saying “I don’t have a racist bone in my body!”

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:11:54am

re: #25 Targetpractice

I don’t consider the term “colorblind” when used in the context of racial discrimination as “racist” so much as I think of it as “privileged.” As in the people who tend to use that term are those who are privileged enough to have never faced racial discrimination in their own lives or associated with those who have, so that when they hear cases of such they find themselves concluding that the discrimination is not racial in nature but due to some character flaw or past behavior.

Racism is really a subset of hereditary privilege, which is what all conservative agitation is ultimately aimed at preserving or, if possible, expanding. Racism is how the hereditary elite get the white lower classes on board. They haven’t inherited money or property or status in traditional power networks, but they have inherited their skin color and that is more than enough for many once they see that it brings them, too, some kind of privilege.

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Citizen K  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:13:24am

re: #28 Amory Blaine

“Don’t be so cynical”. Uh huh, OK.

NPR Poll: Independents Believe Democrats Are a ‘Bigger Threat’ to American Democracy Than Republicans

Of course. Of course it’s all our fault. NO matter what we do, it’s all our fault. Just fucking kick us in the teeth whenever we try and do something and tell us we’re to blame when it all goes wrong, even when the other side doesn’t even fucking hide the matches in their hands when it all goes to fucking flame.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:13:49am
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:17:46am

re: #2 BlueSpotinAL

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How much do wire cutters cost. Bet less than a good ladder.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:18:28am

re: #5 JOE 🥓

Let me guess-Abbott is going to electrify the fence…

So insulated wire cutters

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:18:48am

re: #33 Charles Johnson

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The current theory is that Chuck is running for reelection so that he can then retire and his grandson appointed to his seat, because Repubs are all against “dynasties” running for office but totally cool with them being appointed.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:20:47am

Chuck Grassley is why we need an upper age limit for Senators.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:23:17am

re: #28 Amory Blaine

“Don’t be so cynical”. Uh huh, OK.

NPR Poll: Independents Believe Democrats Are a ‘Bigger Threat’ to American Democracy Than Republicans

I’ll have to read it later. What danger to democracy do we pose?

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Citizen K  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:23:44am

And as if this day couldn’t feel any shittier…

Another state essentially lost to us for at least another generation on the state-level and below.

Power begets power begets absolute, unshakable, impenetrable power.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:24:30am
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Belafon  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:25:55am

re: #39 Citizen K

And as if this day couldn’t feel any shittier…

Another state essentially lost to us for at least another generation on the state-level and below.

Power begets power begets absolute, unshakable, impenetrable power.

And obviously Democrats are the threat to Democracy.

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JOE 🥓  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:28:47am

re: #28 Amory Blaine

“Don’t be so cynical”. Uh huh, OK.

NPR Poll: Independents Believe Democrats Are a ‘Bigger Threat’ to American Democracy Than Republicans

Which is why I gave up on NPR ever since their hatchet job on Anita Hill.

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sagehen  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:31:58am

re: #36 Targetpractice

The current theory is that Chuck is running for reelection so that he can then retire and his grandson appointed to his seat, because Repubs are all against “dynasties” running for office but totally cool with them being appointed.

that’s how Lisa Murkowski initially got her seat; her father was the governor who appointed her.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:32:24am

re: #38 Belafon

I don’t think it matters. I would ask centrist democrats how they intend to reach these people. I OTOH don’t care about independents. Reaching out to new voters is the way forward for me, not begging votes from a voting block of unreliable fucktards.

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KGxvi  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:33:08am

re: #25 Targetpractice

I don’t consider the term “colorblind” when used in the context of racial discrimination as “racist” so much as I think of it as “privileged.” As in the people who tend to use that term are those who are privileged enough to have never faced racial discrimination in their own lives or associated with those who have, so that when they hear cases of such they find themselves concluding that the discrimination is not racial in nature but due to some character flaw or past behavior.

I had something of a debate about this with my sister a while back. She’s on Facebook a bit too much and follows (at least) Candace Owens. Owens had some post about how people were calling the sensor based faucets racist because they wouldn’t recognize dark skin. Of course the position of my sister and Owens was “that’s not racist, and you’re just looking for it everywhere.”

I was trying to explain to her that it was a blind spot or what is call negligent racism (you don’t have anyone in the room that’s different from you so you don’t consider alternative points of view or effects). But I couldn’t get through to her because in her mind racism is purely an interpersonal thing “I don’t like/hate those people” and not something that could be the result of omissions conscious or not.

Which, by the way, that distinction is the central point of CRT… it’s not necessarily about the intent so much as the outcomes. Much like the difference between intentional torts and negligence - that I hit you in the face with a baseball bat and causes damage is more important than whether I meant to do it or it was an accident

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:33:27am

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:35:50am

re: #28 Amory Blaine

“Don’t be so cynical”. Uh huh, OK.

NPR Poll: Independents Believe Democrats Are a ‘Bigger Threat’ to American Democracy Than Republicans

Independents are Republicans that are too embarrassed to say they’re Republicans. They have the same antidemocratic brainwashing as any other Republican.

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KGxvi  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:36:58am

re: #44 Amory Blaine

I don’t think it matters. I would ask centrist democrats how they intend to reach these people. I OTOH don’t care about independents. Reaching out to new voters is the way forward for me, not begging votes from a voting block of unreliable fucktards.

Independent isn’t an ideology. There are some who are more liberal than the mainstream democrats, there are some more conservative than mainstream republicans. Then there’s people like me who don’t really fit well in any box (center left libertarian). That the numbers are fairly even isn’t much of a surprise.

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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:37:12am

re: #28 Amory Blaine

“Don’t be so cynical”. Uh huh, OK.

NPR Poll: Independents Believe Democrats Are a ‘Bigger Threat’ to American Democracy Than Republicans

“Independents” are merely Republicans who are too embarrassed to admit to being Republicans in politically mixed company.

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:37:26am

re: #47 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Independents are Republicans that are too embarrassed to say they’re Republicans. They have the same antidemocratic brainwashing as any other Republican.

The ranks of “Independents” always amazingly swells whenever a Repub in office ends up leaving in disgrace.

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sagehen  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:38:16am

re: #28 Amory Blaine

“Don’t be so cynical”. Uh huh, OK.

NPR Poll: Independents Believe Democrats Are a ‘Bigger Threat’ to American Democracy Than Republicans

There’s no such thing as “independents”; they’re embarrassed Republicans, and we can assume they’re rarely embarrassed enough to vote D.

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:43:10am

Basically you can spot the “Independent” in your crowd of family/friends/coworkers/etc because they’re the one who gets uptight at Trump supporters being labeled as “racists.”

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b.d. (The war is over)  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:43:39am

Lol @ Lindsey.

Good luck with your base buddy!

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Dangerman  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:45:22am

re: #44 Amory Blaine

I don’t think it matters. I would ask centrist democrats how they intend to reach these people. I OTOH don’t care about independents. Reaching out to new voters is the way forward for me, not begging votes from a voting block of unreliable fucktards.

fundamental marketing

dont fight over increasing small slices of the existing pie

make the pie bigger

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:45:58am

re: #53 b.d. (The war is over)

Lol @ Lindsey.

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Good luck with your base buddy!

“Shoot those peaceful tourists!”

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IngisKahn  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:49:04am

Lego Titanic preorders sold out immediately :(

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b.d. (The war is over)  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:49:08am

re: #55 Targetpractice

“Shoot those peaceful tourists!”

GAETZ SAYS THAT THEY ARE ANTIFA! FIRE!!!

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Dangerman  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:49:53am

re: #45 KGxvi

way back when, my recollection is the concept of color blindness w/r/t ‘race’ was a kind of shorthand for ‘a time when color no longer matters’

it has of course been co-opted by the right to be used as an inevitable cudgel.
implying that we already are there and anyone who doesnt see it that way is the racist

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:51:36am
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A Mom Anon  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:52:28am

I got the Christmas gift my husband got me early. We got a bunch of birds from a company called Metalbirds. We have an owl, and eagle, a bat and couple of cardinals too. From there, the Husband found another company that makes these(mountain metal arts):

Chris Cornell and Dave Grohl
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Amory Blaine  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:53:49am

re: #60 A Mom Anon

Dang those would make great stencils.

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William Lewis  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:53:55am

Seems that the 12th Doctor has picked up a guitar for real.

The first single is here:

St. Christopher (Edit)

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Dangerman  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:54:22am

re: #48 KGxvi

Independent isn’t an ideology. There are some who are more liberal than the mainstream democrats, there are some more conservative than mainstream republicans. Then there’s people like me who don’t really fit well in any box (center left libertarian). That the numbers are fairly even isn’t much of a surprise.

in my little corner, independent does not mean fence sitting or wishy-washy. It means not being myopically pigeonholed left/right r/d, cons/lib. It means not holding extreme or radical positions, generally black and white ones. It means not living on any one dimensional definition of positions.

It means not being required to hold similarly polarized positions on unrelated issues - ie say on abortion and gun control.

It does not mean not holding strong or convicted opinions. It also generally means each issue on its merits and sometimes cherry picking good points of otherwise bad policy.

It means that whether originalist, strict constructionist, or activist, it is not the only interpretation of the constitution possible. And while yours, whatever it is, may be passionate, reasonable, etc it is not necessarily the only “right” one. We are guessing to an extent - assuming, inferring. Whether it was left ambiguous on purpose or by accident - whether their ancillary writings help or hurt their “original intent”. It means recognizing that this is 2021 with 350+m people in a country that is 50 states, plus territories that covers more than just 13 colonies. There is an instantaneous world economy that can and does have devastating effects on us — in that instant. That we don’t control all the natural resources or even have the largest population that can influence the use of natural resources (by everyday consumption, not by manipulating their mining/use/sale) everything and it means recognizing the thorny issues created by progress technology, and that critical thinking people can in fact critically think and may arrive at perfectly reasonable, workable, livable conclusions different from yours.

None of this says anything about not having or abandoning principles. It’s figuring out how to get as much as you can from the political process. Not stamping your foot and demanding that all things must go your way or you’ll throw a tantrum and then toss a wrench into the system, grinding it to a halt.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:54:47am

re: #61 Amory Blaine

That’s a cool idea. I may try that.

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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:55:38am

re: #53 b.d. (The war is over)

Lol @ Lindsey.

Good luck with your base buddy!

Lindsey: Take back the Senate! You’ve got guns - Use them!!!
Sgt-at-Arms: We are outnumbered, my lord. ‘Twould be suicide-by-mob. We must hold here and await reinforcements.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2021 • 11:55:58am

re: #62 William Lewis

Seems that the 12th Doctor has picked up a guitar for real.

The first single is here:

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They wrote Capaldi’s guitar playing into his Doctor.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:06:12pm
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Dangerman  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:09:13pm

re: #53 b.d. (The war is over)

Lol @ Lindsey.

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Good luck with your base buddy!

lindsey wasn’t in the loop?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:09:23pm

Uh, this isn’t true.

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Dangerman  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:10:33pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

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so by definition twitter is representative of its users //

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:10:33pm

I despise DeSantis, but he’s talking about the law he passed about COVID vaccines, not polio, measles, and mumps. Those are still required.

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Dangerman  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:12:32pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

I despise DeSantis, but he’s talking about the law he passed about COVID vaccines, not polio, measles, and mumps. Those are still required.

i read it as sarcasm

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:13:08pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

I despise DeSantis, but he’s talking about the law he passed about COVID vaccines, not polio, measles, and mumps. Those are still required.

For now. Wasn’t Florida the state where some dumbass legislator wanted a full review of all vaccination requirements, not just COVID?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:14:59pm

re: #73 Dopamine Fish

For now. Wasn’t Florida the state where some dumbass legislator wanted a full review of all vaccination requirements, not just COVID?

I wouldn’t be surprised if they did it, but they haven’t yet.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:15:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:15:22pm
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:19:08pm

Booster update. Been a little over 3 hours and my injection site is not even stiff or sore. Looking good so far. That is all

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:20:11pm

Summer turned 3 months old yesterday

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:24:20pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Not like that!”

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:26:24pm

Sinema: I won’t accept a bill with tax increases or if it helps my constituents.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:28:50pm

re: #2 BlueSpotinAL

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:28:59pm
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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:30:20pm

re: #53 b.d. (The war is over)

Graham went from insisting that Capitol Police shoot the invading hoards of Trumpist insurrectionists to defending Trump and refusing to hold Trump admin officials accountable for their effort to overturn a legitimately held election that Trump clearly lost.

Fuck him.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:31:26pm

re: #42 JOE 🥓

Which is why I gave up on NPR ever since their hatchet job on Anita Hill.

This is BULLSHIT

In response to the question, “In general, which party do you think is the bigger threat to democracy in the United States,” 41 percent of Independents said the Democratic Party, while 37 percent said the Republican Party. Among national adults, 42 percent said the former, while 41 percent said the latter. Among national registered voters, 43 percent said the Democratic Party, while 42 percent said the Republican Party.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:31:57pm
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Dangerman  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:37:09pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

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he is not going to spend $3b just like trump never spent nearly the entire cost of his ‘wall’

he’s not going to get very much erected either - just like trump

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:39:54pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

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LOL

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nines09  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:42:20pm

Good day good people. Just dropping this tune because its beautiful. Happy gales of November.

Jack Johnson, Matt Costa - Let It Be Sung ft. Zach Gill, Dan Lebowitz, Steve Adams

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:43:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:43:46pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:43:49pm
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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:43:59pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Abbott is proposing spending $3 billion on razor wire.

That will have precisely zero impact on border control and safety.

Why?

Because it can be easily cut with wire cutters, covered over with cheap carpet, or circumvented by crossing where there aren’t fences at all.

And it does nothing to stop visa overstays.

This is more of the same performative bulkshit we see from the GOP. Instead of spending on rebuilding their power grid and building resilient systems, they’re going to spend on this crap.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:44:27pm
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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:49:33pm

re: #93 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:49:38pm

re: #92 lawhawk

Abbott is proposing spending $3 billion on razor wire.

That will have precisely zero impact on border control and safety.

Why?

Because it can be easily cut with wire cutters, covered over with cheap carpet, or circumvented by crossing where there aren’t fences at all.

And it does nothing to stop visa overstays.

This is more of the same performative bulkshit we see from the GOP. Instead of spending on rebuilding their power grid and building resilient systems, they’re going to spend on this crap.

It could also be a grift. Who are they buying the razor wire from?

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JOE 🥓  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:51:45pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

UFO - Opening Sequence

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JOE 🥓  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:54:31pm

re: #92 lawhawk

Abbott is proposing spending $3 billion on razor wire.

That will have precisely zero impact on border control and safety.

Why?

Because it can be easily cut with wire cutters, covered over with cheap carpet, or circumvented by crossing where there aren’t fences at all.

And it does nothing to stop visa overstays.

This is more of the same performative bulkshit we see from the GOP. Instead of spending on rebuilding their power grid and building resilient systems, they’re going to spend on this crap.

Just remember that Winter is coming and Abbot and the Republicans haven’t done one f’n thing to upgrade the state’s power grid.

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JOE 🥓  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:56:15pm

re: #93 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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Ah the same British Israelite shtick that was pushed by Herbert & Garner Ted Armstrong and w. euGene Scott who preached that the real Israelites fled to England.

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Mattand  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:56:47pm

So, I finally looked up what “Let’s go, Brandon” means.

Somehow, what passes for clever in the conservative head space has hit bottom and gone another 200 feet under that.

Again.

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Mattand  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:58:19pm

re: #97 JOE 🥓

Just remember that Winter is coming and Abbot and the Republicans haven’t done one f’n thing to upgrade the state’s power grid.

What’s scary is a not-insignificant chunk of TX Republicans are full metal “I’d rather my family freeze to death than risk an immigrant crossing the border.”

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plansbandc  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:58:20pm

...

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:58:46pm

re: #86 Dangerman

Nope, the money will all go to his contractor buddies.

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plansbandc  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:59:43pm

Let’s try this again. So shocking. Not.

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Dangerman  Nov 1, 2021 • 12:59:53pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]Schumer on voting rights legislation: “Later this evening, I will file cloture on motion to proceed the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act, setting up a vote to take place on Wednesday.” 60 votes will be needed to end a filibuster and allow debate on the bill to begin.

R’s wont even deign to debate it

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Dangerman  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:01:31pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

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the political demographic problem is not that there are more Ds than Rs and if only we could get them to vote

it’s that there are more stupid than smart people and they do vote

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:02:52pm

re: #99 Mattand

So, I finally looked up what “Let’s go, Brandon” means.

Somehow, what passes for clever in the conservative head space has hit bottom and gone another 200 feet under that.

Again.

They gave fragile, brittle, Conservatives who are fine with mass death, but get prudish about colorful language, permission to swear without swearing. Of course they went wild like the arrested development cases that they are.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:03:26pm
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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:04:22pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Hey it fools the best of us.
littlegreenfootballs.com
re: #120 jaunte

re: #121 Eclectic Cyborg

Those are some wet miserable people right there.

re: #124 A Mom Anon

I kinda hope Hell has a damp, moldy, sprinkly wing where you can’t light a tiki torch, but that’s all there is all around you, tiki torches and lighters for all eternity.

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gocart mozart  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:09:43pm
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retired cynic  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:11:41pm

It’s the Worst Possible Time to Try Out a Public-Private Military, And Yet
All of the problems with privatization—lack of oversight, the profit motive—get a lot worse when you add guns and explosives to them.
esquire.com

There’s an extremely strange and, frankly, frightening story in The Nation concerning a growth industry in North Carolina, and if January 6 had not happened, I wouldn’t even bring it up. But it did, so I am.

Oak Grove is a self-described “Tactical and Cultural Training Center” occupying 300 acres between Hoffman and nearby Camp Mackall. According to the company’s website, facilities include a multistory shoot house, a small-arms range, a rappelling tower, an explosive breaching bay (to practice blowing down doors for forced entry), and five “realistic cultural training villages ranging in size and type with available role players and livestock.”
Yes, it sounds like a theme park for suburban commandos—Militialand!—but it’s a serious business run by serious people.
Who’s training in Hoffman? According to a report this September from the Costs of War project at Brown University’s Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, Pentagon spending totaled over $14 trillion over the course of the war of Afghanistan—with one-third to half going to for-profit contractors. Alongside caterers and cleaners and the manufacturers of tanks and planes, today’s contractors include companies training not only current and former military and cops and private guards, but also civilians seeking to be more “prepared.”
In addition to Oak Grove and the infamous Blackwater (now renamed Academi, which was founded in N.C.’s Dismal Swamp in 1998), North Carolina is home to Frontline, Spartan, The Range and others—all of them offering realistic combat and live fire training to government, corporate and private individuals. Grassroots activists organizing across this state are concerned about a seemingly unmonitored flow of military-grade weapons, training, and white warrior ideology out of North Carolina’s privatized military and into civilian lives.

Commenter:

I was drafted in the very last military draft in 1972, back when the troops themselves did KP. In the middle of my two year service, the Army switched from us doing our own KP to contractors. Immediately, the quality of the food and the cleanliness of the mess halls plummeted. Before, we had a mess sergeant over our shoulders insisting on us polishing that giant cook pan, and we knew we would be eating off the trays the next day. After that, it was not uncommon to find hair or old food on the trays and the food was poorly made.

Worth reading, if you aren’t scared enough already.

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retired cynic  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:16:49pm

And scarier?
The Supreme Court May Execute Steve Bannon’s Plan to Destroy the Administrative State
Reviving the “nondelegation doctrine” would imperil the American government’s ability to govern.
esquire.com

These two pieces are worth what I pay for Charlie Pierce’s column for a year.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:17:24pm

re: #103 plansbandc

Let’s try this again. So shocking. Not.

This is why I was skeptical when we had Twitter threads earlier claiming that 40% of Chicago police were going to quit, or 40% of NY police were going to quit, or 40% of whatever major city’s police were going to quit. They keep saying this - but they never DO it.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:18:13pm

So apparently there were some draft tweets Trump didn’t send on Jan 6 that have surfaced…and boy are they winners. One of them blames Antifa and encourages the mob.

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:18:30pm

re: #110 retired cynic

Privatization is always a scam. The premise is a fraud. The idea that private biz is irrevocably better than government.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:18:54pm

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:20:26pm

re: #112 Dopamine Fish

This is why I was skeptical when we had Twitter threads earlier claiming that 40% of Chicago police were going to quit, or 40% of NY police were going to quit, or 40% of whatever major city’s police were going to quit. They keep saying this - but they never DO it.

Lol. Of course not. No other job has the power over others. Carry a gun. Being allgedly superior to us mere civilians.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:21:49pm

re: #109 gocart mozart

It’s times like this I wish I still had twitter. Mustard! Mustard your troops! We gotta have mustard!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:22:01pm

re: #99 Mattand

It’s an utterly stupid meme, which of course means teh atavists love it.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:23:40pm

re: #112 Dopamine Fish

This is why I was skeptical when we had Twitter threads earlier claiming that 40% of Chicago police were going to quit, or 40% of NY police were going to quit, or 40% of whatever major city’s police were going to quit. They keep saying this - but they never DO it.

Conservatives lie to themselves and each other constantly. It’s only when they try to lie to a normal person that they get pushback. Of course they lied about quitting their jobs so they’d have the right to play Russian roulette with COVID.

Only the dumbest, Todd Starnesiest ones who have no idea it’s all a scam, actually quit rather than protect themselves from COVID.

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steve_davis  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:25:08pm

re: #39 Citizen K

And as if this day couldn’t feel any shittier…

[Embedded content]

Another state essentially lost to us for at least another generation on the state-level and below.

Power begets power begets absolute, unshakable, impenetrable power.

in some ways, what is happening in the U.S. senate right now will be very healthy for the Democratic party if it survives long enough to make use of the wisdom gained from it. Pretty sure after these two years, and the possible loss of senate control in 2022, if Democrats win back control in 2024, the death of the filibuster will be first on the agenda, and then a voting rights act that breaks the back of the gerrymander. Then, quite possibly, an increased supreme court.

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retired cynic  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:25:35pm

re: #119 Punish Domestic Terrorists

This is eventually going to push enough vaccinations that we will begin to exit from this horror, whether the reactionaries like it or not. And before next year’s mid-terms, too.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:29:33pm

It’s a too-slow process, but Republicans weed themselves out when given power to abuse. They just don’t fit in where people are expected to not be complete trash.

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) — A judge who oversees elections in an Alabama county was removed from office after being accused of racist, sexually inappropriate behavior that included demeaning comments about women and saying George Floyd “got what he deserved” when an officer in Minnesota murdered him.

Talladega County Probate Judge Randy Jinks, 65, was ousted in a unanimous order filed Friday by the nine-member Alabama Court of the Judiciary. Following a trial, the panel found that he violated five judicial ethics rules including failing to uphold the integrity and independence of the court system.

A former business owner who served as chairman of the county Republican executive committee, Jinks denied most of the claims, blamed workers for misinterpreting jokes and accused employees of eavesdropping, court records showed.

Jinks, who doesn’t have a law license, was first elected in 2018 and took office the following year. His conduct was the subject of a complaint filed in March that accused him of watching and sharing sexually inappropriate videos and making comments about the appearance and anatomy of women.

Alabama judge booted for racist, inappropriate behavior (AP via MSN)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:33:40pm

re: #122 Punish Domestic Terrorists

A former business owner who served as chairman of the county Republican executive committee, Jinks denied most of the claims, blamed workers for misinterpreting jokes and accused employees of eavesdropping, court records showed.

Don’t you just love how it’s never their fault?

/

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steve_davis  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:37:11pm

re: #96 JOE 🥓

[Embedded content]

Video

“then towards the end, we’ll have a couple of the oompaloompa womens get all up in there….”

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sagehen  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:42:52pm

re: #104 Dangerman

R’s wont even deign to debate it

But when the reconciliation bill comes to the Senate, isn’t there a Vote-a-rama thing where any and everything can be proposed as amendments? Maybe they can sneak it in there…

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Dangerman  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:45:08pm

re: #116 Rightwingconspirator

Lol. Of course not. No other job has the power over others. Carry a gun. Being allgedly superior to us mere civilians.

as long as there’s no cameras around

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retired cynic  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:47:54pm

re: #125 sagehen

Not if the parliamentarian rules it out. I assume she passes judgement on the amendments offered as well as the bill itself. And any amendments passed in the Senate would send the bill back to the House. Of course, the time would be absolutely worth it if the voting bill COULD be attached.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:49:20pm

re: #108 Shropshire Slasher

I didn’t pass it on as fact. But yeah, I got fooled because of a lot of personal observations of very shitty behavior. My comment still stands directed toward any Proud Boy, Oath Keeper, 3 percenter, or any of the rest of these dipshits.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:52:37pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Later this evening, I will file cloture on motion to proceed the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act, setting up a vote to take place on Wednesday.” 60 votes will be needed

re: #127 retired cynic

Not if the parliamentarian rules it out. I assume she passes judgement on the amendments offered as well as the bill itself. And any amendments passed in the Senate would send the bill back to the House. Of course, the time would be absolutely worth it if the voting bill COULD be attached.

OH NOES! NOT ANOTHER SYMBOLIC VOTE!

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:55:16pm
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Dopamine Fish  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:55:50pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

They aren’t self-aware enough to know when they’re beclowning themselves.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 1, 2021 • 1:58:14pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

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KGxvi  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:02:42pm

re: #63 Dangerman

That is all very well said. And definitely true among those of us who are acutely politically aware and have taken the time to think about things beyond Team R and Team D.

Alas, those of us who have taken that time, regardless of our political philosophies/ideologies, are probably a distinct minority of the population. Most Americans don’t have the bandwidth to pay much attention or to think about things beyond a superficial level.

I’d be curious to see what the opinions are among those who pay close attention to politics rather than just the random sample/cross section of the general public.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:06:05pm

thread from SCOTUSblog earlier:

much more in the thread

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:08:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:10:04pm

WHAT CAN POSSIBLY GO WRONG???

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:10:06pm

Not that these two would ever have opportunity to meet each other in person, but I don’t think Greta would give Amy control over her uterus.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:11:05pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

WHAT CAN POSSIBLY GO WRONG???

Nothing, for white people. There’s a whole lotta black people in Ohio who are going to be at risk of getting shot, either by citizens or by police.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:11:29pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

WHAT CAN POSSIBLY GO WRONG???

[Embedded content]

Ohio wants to make it easier for their police to justify shooting black people. THEY MAY HAVE HAD A GUN!

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:11:59pm

re: #138 Dopamine Fish

Nothing, for white people. There’s a whole lotta black people in Ohio who are going to be at risk of getting shot, either by citizens or by police.

Beat me by 24 seconds.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:12:36pm

re: #137 darthstar

Why would we give a flying fuck what a law peson had to say about scientific fact?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:12:40pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

Counterpoint: They don’t give a shit if they beclown themselves as long as it makes them feel like they are owning the Libs.

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Dangerman  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:12:43pm

re: #133 KGxvi

That is all very well said. And definitely true among those of us who are acutely politically aware and have taken the time to think about things beyond Team R and Team D.

Alas, those of us who have taken that time, regardless of our political philosophies/ideologies, are probably a distinct minority of the population. Most Americans don’t have the bandwidth to pay much attention or to think about things beyond a superficial level.

I’d be curious to see what the opinions are among those who pay close attention to politics rather than just the random sample/cross section of the general public.

i had no interest in party politics or primaries
i followed them as i do now, but did not participate
i deliberately registered as non party i think until 2018

then it became clear that to advance my agenda, i needed to be a registered democrat.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:13:05pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

WHAT CAN POSSIBLY GO WRONG???

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JOE 🥓  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:13:19pm

re: #139 darthstar

Ohio wants to make it easier for their police to justify shooting black people. THEY MAY HAVE HAD A GUN!

Tin soldiers and MAGATS coming
We’re finally on our own
This winter I hear the war cry
Cops kill unarmed blacks in Ohio…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:14:19pm

It’s pink and IT HAS A TUTU!!!

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:14:52pm

re: #140 darthstar

Beat me by 24 seconds.

Great minds, etc., etc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:17:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:23:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:25:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:26:23pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:29:47pm

re: #145 JOE 🥓

Tin soldiers and MAGATS coming
We’re finally on our own
This winter I hear the war cry
Cops kill unarmed blacks in Ohio…

Ohio already had open season on unarmed blacks. Let’s not forget the death of John Crawford at a Walmart.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:30:04pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

That kind of predictability makes it a good stock for people shorting the market.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:30:57pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Producers redux.

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KGxvi  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:32:21pm

re: #143 Dangerman

i had no interest in party politics or primaries
i followed them as i do now, but did not participate
i deliberately registered as non party i think until 2018

then it became clear that to advance my agenda, i needed to be a registered democrat.

I’m somewhat privileged in that way, living in California, we have non-partisan top-two primaries now. The only time party registration matters is for presidential contests, the Dems (and I think Libertarians) let independents vote in their primaries; the GOP doesn’t, but there hasn’t been a Republican presidential candidate that I’ve actually like since McCain in 2000, so that doesn’t really matter much. And since I don’t really have much desire to run for public office these days, being registered in a party is sort of unnecessary.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:36:01pm

re: #154 jaunte

The Producers redux.

The Aristocrats is more like it.

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KGxvi  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:36:09pm

Just curious, I think I’ve mentioned before that John Eastman was my con law professor in law school… would anyone be interested in a page about him and how it’s not entirely surprising that he ended up where he has?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:37:04pm

re: #157 KGxvi

Just curious, I think I’ve mentioned before that John Eastman was my con law professor in law school… would anyone be interested in a page about him and how it’s not entirely surprising that he ended up where he has?

you got to be kidding. POST IT!

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:38:37pm

re: #157 KGxvi

Just curious, I think I’ve mentioned before that John Eastman was my con law professor in law school… would anyone be interested in a page about him and how it’s not entirely surprising that he ended up where he has?

Yes, please.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:39:19pm

Lou Reed (Robin) and John Cale…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:39:29pm
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darthstar  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:40:35pm

re: #157 KGxvi

Just curious, I think I’ve mentioned before that John Eastman was my con law professor in law school… would anyone be interested in a page about him and how it’s not entirely surprising that he ended up where he has?

Even if it doesn’t have a pic of an animal yes.

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William Lewis  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:41:30pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, like this?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:42:33pm

re: #163 William Lewis

So, like this?

[Embedded content]

share it with Canon and see what they say

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:43:09pm
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darthstar  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:43:25pm

Heh…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:44:16pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:45:02pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

That reminds me so much of Monet’s paintings!

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KGxvi  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:45:55pm

Ok, I’ll work up a post on Eastman.

I’m also realizing that my time in law school was a bit of a Forest Gump scenario… we had Eastman and Hugh Hewitt as con law professors, Tim Canova was on the faculty for a bit (had a class with him), I believe Ken Starr and Tom Campbell were also visiting professors while I was there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:46:26pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:46:49pm

re: #157 KGxvi

Just curious, I think I’ve mentioned before that John Eastman was my con law professor in law school… would anyone be interested in a page about him and how it’s not entirely surprising that he ended up where he has?

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:47:25pm

re: #160 darthstar

Lou Reed (Robin) and John Cale…

[Embedded content]

I saw the Todd Haynes doc last weekend. This wasn’t in it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:47:27pm
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William Lewis  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:48:29pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

share it with Canon and see what they say

They’d not be amused with “Leica” in the EXIF data ;)

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nines09  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:50:10pm

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William Lewis  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:51:46pm

re: #160 darthstar

Alas, I’m seeing things on the intertubes saying it’s a hoax. Pity.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:51:55pm

At the COP26 press briefing by Denmark today, Sen. Kerry was one of the guests who spoke a little:

unfccc-cop26.streamworld.de

What I was surprised by is that he brought up his time in the Navy, and that the USN has been using nukes for 70+ years without any major incident. This all under the topic of moving shipping away from fossil fuels.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:52:32pm

re: #176 William Lewis

Alas, I’m seeing things on the intertubes saying it’s a hoax. Pity.

Kinda hard seeing Lou sign on to that.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:53:56pm

re: #176 William Lewis

Alas, I’m seeing things on the intertubes saying it’s a hoax. Pity.

Fuck the intertubes. I want to believe Lou dressed as Robin.

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JOE 🥓  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:54:25pm

Fucked Up Franky Graham Cracker LIKES Global Warming!

Franklin Graham: Climate change was God’s idea — just look at Noah’s flood and the plagues of Egypt.

deadstate.org

In a post to his Facebook page this Monday, evangelist Franklin Graham said that unusually hard summers and winters are not necessarily because of climate change, but because of God’s vengeance, and people concerned about climate change are forgetting that souls may see unusually harsh conditions if they don’t get their priorities straight.

“…He will bring judgment on those who have rejected Him and His Son, Jesus Christ. I’m often asked if we are getting close to the return of Jesus Christ. No man knows the day or the hour, but I believe we are getting close. You’d better be ready.”

I hope you get closer to The Big G when you’re hooked up to a respirator, Fucked Up Franky!

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:54:48pm

re: #178 Barefoot Grin

Kinda hard seeing Lou sign on to that.

Hey, I got it from facebook, and you know how accurate the information is there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:54:50pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:55:21pm

re: #180 JOE 🥓

I thought Christians were generally supposed to be opposed to burning in hell?

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:55:35pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:55:50pm

So this whole UNFCC thing (COP26 is one of their meetings) can be thrown under the bus once the Supreme Court rules that that the EPA cannot regulate carbon dioxide.

Because if the US can’t regulate CO2 then every country in the world will use that as a reason for themselves not doing their own part.

This is the end, I think, of the UN’s ability to really influence anything about climate change. For all the the pomp that goes with these big UN gatherings, for all the leaders that will show up, there is a feeling of ennui that permeates (well, at least me.)

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:56:50pm

re: #181 darthstar

Hey, I got it from facebook, and you know how accurate the information is there.

I’m sure Lou had his playful side.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:58:32pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 2:58:57pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:02:33pm

re: #186 Barefoot Grin

I’m sure Lou had his playful side.

A search of the Interwebz suggests that photo has been making the rounds since late 2013 and is indeed a hoax.

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sagehen  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:04:28pm

re: #163 William Lewis

So, like this?

[Embedded content]

So is that shadow on the left the thing from Lost? Or maybe there’s a T Rex just off screen?

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:04:59pm

Trump repeats anti-Semitic tropes but he thinks “Israel owning Congress” is a GOOD THING. 😣

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:05:12pm

re: #177 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

At the COP26 press briefing by Denmark today, Sen. Kerry was one of the guests who spoke a little:

unfccc-cop26.streamworld.de

What I was surprised by is that he brought up his time in the Navy, and that the USN has been using nukes for 70+ years without any major incident. This all under the topic of moving shipping away from fossil fuels.

What about the Thresher?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:06:17pm

Many people do not seem to accept why the UN has meetings.

Many young people seem to get upset that the UN is not a savior.

The UN exists to allow different countries to talk to each other, under some sort of rules for comity.

That’s why the UN exists. That is why there are UN meetings.

COP26 has little effect on climate change. It exists so countries can talk to each other under the same umbrella.

The concept of sovereignty is a tricky thing, but ultimately it means that nothing can be done. Think of the UN like the US Senate, only bigger and less tractable.

Here’s the ugly, uncomfortable, and unpleasant truth: the rich run the show. Climate change is not going to be avoided because the rich do not want to give up their wealth.

Because we are social animals and we create pecking orders, and the rich are high up on the order.

Abating climate change will only happen through even larger innovations than we’ve already seen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:06:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:08:59pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:09:37pm

re: #192 Hecuba’s daughter

What about the Thresher?

Sharks are of little thought at COP26, though you can probably find them on the menu around Scotland.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:10:27pm
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nines09  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:12:30pm

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sagehen  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:13:06pm

re: #191 The Pie Overlord!

Trump repeats anti-Semitic tropes but he thinks “Israel owning Congress” is a GOOD THING. 😣

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If Israel “owned” Congress, we’d have taxpayer-funded universal healthcare, including abortion on demand up to 20 weeks, free college, and the only people avoiding mandatory military service would be those who opt to serve on ambulance crews or in immigrant assistance instead.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:15:44pm

re: #186 Barefoot Grin

I’m sure Lou had his playful side.

I saw Laurie Anderson in concert not long after he died. She told a lot of stories about him and yes, his playful side, but towards the end he just wanted to be with her and appreciate every second.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:16:08pm
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JOE 🥓  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:18:52pm

re: #191 The Pie Overlord!

Trump repeats anti-Semitic tropes but he thinks “Israel owning Congress” is a GOOD THING. 😣

[Embedded content]

When Fuckhead said that “good people” carried Tiki Torches and yelled Jews Will Not Replace Us…and Fuckhead can’t understand why we wouldn’t vote for him…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:19:25pm
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A Cranky One  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:21:10pm

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jurassic Park but with a Cat

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:25:23pm

One of the long running problems with the UN meetings like COP26 is that the UN heads can’t speak truths. They have to be remarkably agile with their words.

Now, we’re a long ways from Khrushchev pounding on a podium, but just having a guy get up there, as today, and claim we have to keep the surface average temperature rise under 1.5C is as useless as having one of those cute otters get up there and balance a ball.

We have already bought 1.5C , it’s just that the universe hasn’t delivered it yet. Just wait three decades, the delivery is not coming by door-dash.

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William Lewis  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:29:08pm

re: #199 sagehen

If Israel “owned” Congress, we’d have taxpayer-funded universal healthcare, including abortion on demand up to 20 weeks, free college, and the only people avoiding mandatory military service would be those who opt to serve on ambulance crews or in immigrant assistance instead.

I wish this were true here.

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Nojay UK  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:29:24pm

re: #177 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

At the COP26 press briefing by Denmark today, Sen. Kerry was one of the guests who spoke a little:
What I was surprised by is that he brought up his time in the Navy, and that the USN has been using nukes for 70+ years without any major incident.

AFAIK Senator Kerry never served on a nuclear ship or sub during his service. Modern nuclear ships and subs in the USN all run reactors with 90%-plus enriched uranium fuel, basically bomb-grade material. If, say, Iran decided to start building a fleet of “green” nuclear-powered oil carriers to USN reactor engineering standards I suspect there would be a certain amount of harsh words spoken on the subject.

The Russian icebreaker reactors use medium-enriched fuel, just under 20% U-235 if I recall but they can be refuelled with less maintenance effort than a nuclear sub or aircraft carrier since their engine spaces are a lot more open than a purely military vessel. I think they have a 7-year operational cycle between refuelling. I’m not sure if any of the ex-Soviet era Kiev BCNs are still in service.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:31:51pm

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:31:53pm

re: #207 Nojay UK

AFAIK Senator Kerry never served on a nuclear ship or sub during his service. Modern nuclear ships and subs in the USN all run reactors with 90%-plus enriched uranium fuel, basically bomb-grade material. If, say, Iran decided to start building a fleet of “green” nuclear-powered oil carriers to USN reactor engineering standards I suspect there would be a certain amount of harsh words spoken on the subject.

The Russian icebreaker reactors use medium-enriched fuel, just under 20% U-235 if I recall but they can be refuelled with less maintenance effort than a nuclear sub or aircraft carrier since their engine spaces are a lot more open than a purely military vessel. I think they have a 7-year operational cycle between refuelling. I’m not sure if any of the ex-Soviet era Kiev BCNs are still in service.

Of the four in that class one was scrapped, two sold to China a museum ships, and the fourth was sold to India and is still in service in their navy.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:35:21pm

Okay, I love this.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:35:54pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:36:46pm

re: #204 A Cranky One

That’s amazingly well done!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:45:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:48:17pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:48:42pm
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Moe Avattar  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:49:17pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

Meet the Pink Fairy Armadillo.. It’s pink and IT HAS A TUTU!!!

WTF Japanese Movie Pink Armadillo Attack wtf pink armadillo attack

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:51:53pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is a good one. Officer I was just breezing along I did not know I was going above the speed limit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:55:37pm
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EstebanTornado1963  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:57:12pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 3:58:25pm
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KGxvi  Nov 1, 2021 • 4:01:51pm

re: #199 sagehen

If Israel “owned” Congress, we’d have taxpayer-funded universal healthcare, including abortion on demand up to 20 weeks, free college, and the only people avoiding mandatory military service would be those who opt to serve on ambulance crews or in immigrant assistance instead.

See, your mistake is confusing “Israel” and “the Jews”, which is something the anti-Semites do all the time because, to them, the Jews are Israel and Israel is the Jews. And of course, by “Jews” they mean their various stereotypes, not the actual Israeli republic nor the Americans who practice the Jewish faith, but some amorphous ethnicity/race that is “Jewish”.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 1, 2021 • 4:13:00pm

re: #192 Hecuba’s daughter

What about the Thresher?

Neither the Thresher or Scorpion were lost due to a reactor failure. Thresher was lost due to uncontrolled flooding in the engine room and the emergency blow HP air lines freezing up due to excessive moisture in the system when activated. Scorpion was lost due to (classified) reasons.

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William Lewis  Nov 1, 2021 • 4:13:25pm
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 1, 2021 • 4:15:41pm

Power Strip … check.
Charger … check.
Charged and loaded iPad … check.
Purell … check.
Charged iPhone … check.
Leatherman … check.
Cash, ID and credit cards … check.
Parker Jotter … check.
Partial list for Election Day.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2021 • 4:19:22pm

re: #224 PhillyPretzel

Power Strip … check.
Charger … check.
Charged and loaded iPad … check.
Purell … check.
Charged iPhone … check.
Leatherman … check.
Cash, ID and credit cards … check.
Parker Jotter … check.
Partial list for Election Day.

No memory foam pillow?

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William Lewis  Nov 1, 2021 • 4:19:53pm

re: #222 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Neither the Thresher or Scorpion were lost due to a reactor failure. Thresher was lost due to uncontrolled flooding in the engine room and the emergency blow HP air lines freezing up due to excessive moisture in the system when activated. Scorpion was lost due to (classified) reasons.

I’ve heard so many things over the years from torpedo accident ala Kursk to a torpedo doing a circle ala the Mk18 that sank USS Tang to being sunk by the Russians. Whatever it was I keep hoping that they’ll declassify it someday.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 1, 2021 • 4:20:28pm

re: #225 Decatur Deb

No. I do not need one. I have an iPad with movies and TV shows on it.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 1, 2021 • 4:31:09pm

re: #223 William Lewis

I suspect the military members who go down that route will be fewer than some project.

And now that I think of it, this is probably a good way to purge the military of bad actors.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 1, 2021 • 4:33:32pm

re: #226 William Lewis

I’ve heard so many things over the years from torpedo accident ala Kursk to a torpedo doing a circle ala the Mk18 that sank USS Tang to being sunk by the Russians. Whatever it was I keep hoping that they’ll declassify it someday.

I’ve heard all sorts of rumors as well. The USN (SS) actively discourages them. But in the vein of being sunk by the USSR, well lets just say the rumor mill has it that they found enough at the wreck site and surrounding area for there to have been 2 boats going down at the same time.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 1, 2021 • 4:35:26pm

re: #223 William Lewis

The same military forces who are willing to be deployed anywhere to fight and perhaps lose their lives or their limbs because of orders from their superior officers are unwilling to take a vaccine to protect themselves from a deadly disease — vaccines that have been successfully administered to hundred of millions of people world wide. Certainly seems as those these solders have a problem obeying legitimate authority.

Maybe they can get a job as a server in restaurants in Florida or Texas, where vaccines are not required.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 1, 2021 • 4:40:56pm

For some reason I’ve been watching a lot of history videos on Youtube, mostly by creators who are tossing around ideas of why things happen.

There is an enormous plank in the eyes of some, say the young guys who like to fixate on wars (especially WWI and WWII). They almost always have such a Euro-centric view of the universe that I feel they have embedded themselves into a mind set too deeply organized by the worst of ideologues.

Earlier today I linked to a (right-wing) article on revisionist history books (of WWII.)

The need to rework our feelings and beliefs about the past is real. We are always trying to figure out why something happened. Or didn’t happen.

I take this as natural and good bit of exercise for the intellect.

But I also believe that trying to claim why this or that happens is fraught with problems.

Causality in human societies strikes me as a tough nut. We are creatures whose actions are controlled by chemicals as much as anything else.

Even given that, I think I am on solid ground in claiming that the existential collective crisis this country is in has its roots in our fundamentalist Christian past. The loss-of-god problem is really important to driving American politics. It has for over a hundred years.

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SerialUpDinger  Nov 1, 2021 • 4:49:18pm

Promotion to Corporal

Exciting day at our homestead. Our son - he has been away for two years this week - is now a Corporal. We watched the video of him a the ceremony and it was bittersweet recognizing that he is now a young man who has changed so much! We are so proud of him!

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William Lewis  Nov 1, 2021 • 4:52:17pm

re: #232 SerialUpDinger

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Exciting day at our homestead. Our son - he has been away for two years this week - is now a Corporal. We watched the video of him a the ceremony and it was bittersweet recognizing that he is now a young man who has changed so much! We are so proud of him!

Ah, pass him my congratulations. Don’t know how it is in the Corps but to me Corporal was the best rank. All the privileges of an NCO and very few of the responsibilities because you were expected to still be learning them. Was especially good when on TDY for schooling as I could enjoy the NCO club rather than the usually lesser EM clubs :D

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 1, 2021 • 4:55:22pm

re: #230 Hecuba’s daughter

A lot of these anti-vaxxers losing their military and police jobs, the racist clownshoes infesting our Jan 6. Court proceedings, and other assorted civilized society rejects are counting on a Trump victory in 2024 where he will issue blanket pardons for everyone.

They aren’t wrong or crazy in their aspirations. Trump would very well likely issue reversals overriding all military decisions for the past 4 years as he replaces all of the Joint Chiefs with total wackadoodle lackies and throws the justice system into intentional chaos. They are counting on all pay and pension unrealized to also be included in reinstatement. Don’t think they all have a Trump lock victory in their heads as Republican counties everywhere stack the deck with 100% partisan crooks running the elections.

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austin_blue  Nov 1, 2021 • 4:57:36pm

re: #3 JOE 🥓

It goes back to Pruneface Reagan, Stockman and Gramm slashing the Section 8 budget in 1981. Homelessness really began to spike when housing assistance was cut. Of course those assholes kept repeating the “private charity is more efficient” bullshit which Pruneface mainstreamed.

While cutting Section 8 certainly slashed *thousands* of subsidized housing units available to poor people, I would suggest that dismantling mental health programs made it even worse by dropping *tens of thousands* of horribly vulnerable people into very unwelcoming streets with no help.

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sagehen  Nov 1, 2021 • 4:58:57pm

re: #224 PhillyPretzel

Power Strip … check.
Charger … check.
Charged and loaded iPad … check.
Purell … check.
Charged iPhone … check.
Leatherman … check.
Cash, ID and credit cards … check.
Parker Jotter … check.
Partial list for Election Day.

Water bottle.
Snacks.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 1, 2021 • 5:02:47pm

re: #236 sagehen

Water is provided. Snacks I will buy at the Acme and that is why I packed one of my European (French style) string shopping bags.
amazon.com

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2021 • 5:22:18pm
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austin_blue  Nov 1, 2021 • 5:29:13pm

re: #223 William Lewis

As one Vet to another, bravo and hooah.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2021 • 5:34:05pm
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nines09  Nov 1, 2021 • 5:38:13pm
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austin_blue  Nov 1, 2021 • 5:39:00pm

re: #240 Belafon

That is just fucking brilliant.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2021 • 5:52:29pm
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nines09  Nov 1, 2021 • 5:54:07pm

God Fearing man Of The Lord

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nines09  Nov 1, 2021 • 5:55:16pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 1, 2021 • 5:57:10pm

re: #244 nines09

God Fearing man Of The Lord

[Embedded content]

So that blonde girl in red is dressed up as “Sexy MAGA Hat”

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nines09  Nov 1, 2021 • 6:00:03pm

re: #246 The Pie Overlord!

It’s a whorehouse.
They will hang you or me.
But not the chosen.
And they say they have Bible study.
Yeah.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 1, 2021 • 6:01:40pm

re: #245 nines09

[Embedded content]

not judging, but was Trump hosting an adult video awards thingy?

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nines09  Nov 1, 2021 • 6:05:44pm

re: #248 Barefoot Grin

Trump was sucking in the suckers to suck money out of them.
I hear Wayne Gretzky’s daughter was there.

Paulina Gretzky

JFC

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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 1, 2021 • 6:12:21pm

re: #244 nines09

God Fearing man Of The Lord

Somewhere, Bill Clinton is looking at this picture and thinking, “Damn, man, at least exercise some discretion.”

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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 1, 2021 • 6:18:30pm

re: #246 The Pie Overlord!

So that blonde girl in red is dressed up as “Sexy MAGA Hat”

Worse: She’s dressed up as either Ivanka or Kayleigh McEnemy AS Sexy MAGA Hat.


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