John Oliver on the Modern Plague of Union Busting
John Oliver discusses the mechanics of union busting, why the companies who do it face so few consequences, and what it really means when your manager wants to talk to you about “your attendance.”
John Oliver discusses the mechanics of union busting, why the companies who do it face so few consequences, and what it really means when your manager wants to talk to you about “your attendance.”
The tell that union busting isn’t about helping workers: companies spend hundreds of millions of dollars a year to prevent workers unionizing, when they could easily convert that expenditure to benefits/wage increases for those very workers.
They’d rather spend tons of money to deny union presence than to spend on worker benefits.
That’s exactly why unions are needed in so many industries and workplaces, particularly in retail/service like at Amazon and other big businesses with huge profit centers.
Gveetings, it is I, count Ott-ula… I vant to eat your feesh!!! pic.twitter.com/CuhSGuHyis
— In Otter News…. (@In_Otter_News2) November 12, 2021
re: #66 A Cranky One
For anyone who needs to hear it. @VP is not only a vital partner to @POTUS but a bold leader who has taken on key, important challenges facing the country—from voting rights to addressing root causes of migration to expanding broadband.
— Jen Psaki (@PressSec) November 15, 2021
JEN PSAKI: “Vice President Harris is a vital and committed member of this Administration, and has the President’s full support”.
RW MEDIA: “Biden Admin throws Harris under the bus!!!!!”
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Opinion: A newly disclosed memo reveals Trump’s plot to turn the military into his personal goon squad
Max Boot on that Johnny McEntee memo wanting Defense Sec. Esper fired.
Ends by saying Trump and Biden are polling about equally for 2024. Even leaving aside that any poll now for 2024 is worth spit, WTF????
Wonkette:
‘Fox & Friends’ Now Pushing Food Buckets Like Common Jim Bakkers
The gang over at “Fox & Friends” has finally crossed the inevitable threshold into the not-especially-wide world of survivalist food buckets. Following in the footsteps of such luminaries as Alex Jones and Jim Bakker, they are now pushing people to buy giant buckets of freeze-dried food in preparation for the end times. Well, not the end times, exactly, but rather for all the natural disasters suddenly happening for absolutely no reason they can think of, except maybe God is mad at gay men or feminists (definitely not climate change).
Or for when there is no food on any shelves anywhere because Joe Biden screwed up the supply chain by inventing COVID-19 and not forcing people to work for low wages or (ideally) no money at all.
Definitely not for a pandemic though. Those aren’t real.
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Remember: when investors combine their assets to form a corporation to improve their bargaining position and thus do business more efficiently, that is seen as the very heart and soul of Capitalism.
But when workers combine their bargaining power to obtain better wages, benefits and working conditions, that is seen as the very anathema and enemy of Capitalism.
Because individuals and families with limited incomes and resources should be expected to negotiate one-on-one with multi-billion-dollar international corporations for terms of employment, insurance coverage and financial services.
re: #5 retired cynic
Opinion: A newly disclosed memo reveals Trump’s plot to turn the military into his personal goon squad
Max Boot on that Johnny McEntee memo wanting Defense Sec. Esper fired.Ends by saying Trump and Biden are polling about equally for 2024. Even leaving aside that any poll now for 2024 is worth spit, WTF????
It’s not worth anything when it comes to 2024, but it does tell us that attempted coups are not a deal breaker for Republican voters, either because they’re fascists, or because propagandists have parted them from reality completely. I encounter people daily who at least claim that the coups were a “Democrat hoax.”
re: #1 lawhawk
I wonder if it’s possible or if anyone has figured out the numbers on this for companies like Walmart and Amazon or most other large retailers. And then look at companies like Costco who actually raised their starting salary to 17 dollars an hour. I have a feeling it would just be a lot less expensive to just be a decent employer. You don’t have huge turnover, retraining or burned out employees, don’t have to deal with lawsuits and paying even larger groups of attorneys than you already have to as a company. I have to wonder about the same logic applied to what they do to fight taxes, labor laws and fair wages.
I hate lobbyists, that whole system is a huge part of why we’re here. And yet it’s rarely addressed, reported on and nothing is done about it.
re: #6 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Wonkette:
‘Fox & Friends’ Now Pushing Food Buckets Like Common Jim Bakkers
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I remember my Tea Party neighbor doing this shit back in 2010 because scary black man Obama was going to turn America into a wasteland.
“To say that a bill is right for your district… and something that you helped write, but then you’ve got to vote against it because you don’t want to give the other side a victory? That is a sign of what’s broken.”
— Rep. Don Bacon (R-NE), quoted by NBC News on the infrastructure bill.
re: #9 A Mom Anon
Republicans pay lip service to the Work Ethic and the Dignity of Labor, but in the end, they see it as just another business expense to be minimized or eliminated altogether.
Workers are just another commodity like staples or toner cartridges.
re: #12 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Republicans pay lip service to the Work Ethic and the Dignity of Labor, but in the end, they see it as just another business expense to be minimized or eliminated altogether.
Workers are just another commodity like staples or toner cartridges.
THIS.
re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg
I remember my Tea Party neighbor doing this shit back in 2010 because scary black man Obama was going to turn America into a wasteland.
I remember it way back in the ‘80’s when Howard Ruff was telling Reagan voters to stock up on precious metals and canned beans.
google.com
re: #220 Hecuba’s daughter
Democrats can win only if they are allowed to vote and Texas is doing everything within its power to eliminate that right.
That’s the same problem Georgia has, and Georgia Democrats flipped 40 seats throughout the state this month.
re: #12 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Republicans pay lip service to the Work Ethic and the Dignity of Labor, but in the end, they see it as just another business expense to be minimized or eliminated altogether.
Workers are just another commodity like staples or toner cartridges.
So that’s why they’re shaking me to try to get some extra work out of me.
Let’s check and see how things are going for Milo Yiannopoulos now that he’s “ex-gay” and Christian. Oh, he’s hawking Catholic iconography on the Church Militant’s YouTube shopping network? Well, obviously things are going great. pic.twitter.com/T7OkB1SCsu
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) November 15, 2021
So I check the news and you can imagine my (total lack of) surprise that the one charge that most of the experts declared was a slam-dunk in the Rittenhouse case…is the charge the judge just decided (over the prosecutor’s objection) doesn’t apply to this case and so has dismissed as the defense’s insistence.
re: #9 A Mom Anon
Costco also employs outside vendors, particularly do to the food sample vending. They don’t pay as much as inside workers, but I think that’s a very small percentage of the overall Costco workforce.
You’re right that being a good employer has longer term benefits by creating a stable workforce willing to do more for the business to be successful. But most businesses are run by bean counters who care only about shareholder value and return profits to shareholders - not the workers who make product.
re: #17 gocart mozart
Let’s check and see how things are going for Milo Yiannopoulos now that he’s “ex-gay” and Christian. Oh, he’s hawking Catholic iconography on the Church Militant’s YouTube shopping network? Well, obviously things are going great.
He’s not even getting paid for that, he just gets to spend unsupervised time in the rectory with choirboys
re: #19 lawhawk
They call it “Human Resources”, but not in the sense of renewable resources, more in the sense of raw materials to be strip-mined.
Did Mike Pence set a new standard for Vice Presidents that Kamala Harris isn’t living up to?
I mean, besides the new standards he set for craven toadying to an authoritarian racist?
Because I don’t recall Pence getting anywhere near as much criticism from the media.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2021
In fact, I can’t recall a single goddamned thing Mike Pence achieved in his term. He was a useless sack of flesh who did nothing except collect a paycheck.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2021
re: #23 Charles Johnson
In fact, I can’t recall a single goddamned thing Mike Pence achieved in his term. He was a useless sack of flesh who did nothing except collect a paycheck.
as pointed out in the previous thread, he was put in charge of Covid Response, which he handled much the same way he handled AIDS when he was governor of Indiana…
re: #23 Charles Johnson
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Did Mike Pence set a new standard for Vice Presidents that Kamala Harris isn’t living up to?
I mean, besides the new standards he set for craven toadying to an authoritarian racist?
Because I don’t recall Pence getting anywhere near as much criticism from the media.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2021
oh c’mon
it’s as obvious as the white on his face
re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg
And this is why there’s a need for labor unions. If companies did the right thing when no one was watching (aka as integrity)thereby would be no need for all that. I think this is also another reason the right doesn’t like history. We’ve got this ridiculous backstory of companies being these benevolent things that pay us for the right to eat, have a roof and maybe halfway decent medical care. Any look at America during the beginning of the industrial revolution and the beginning of railroads shows not a lot has changed in how the rich view the poor and working class. They weren’t called robber barons for nothing. We don’t learn from history because we have a problem with kids learning history. It’s stupid
and shortsighted.
For those who missed it yesterday, Joe Bacon has left and he isn’t coming back. He was very hurt by what happened the other night, and he feels very unwelcome here.
re: #27 Charles Johnson
For those who missed it yesterday, Joe Bacon has left and he isn’t coming back. He was very hurt by what happened the other night, and he feels very unwelcome here.
I missed the blowup, but will miss JB.
re: #27 Charles Johnson
I’m sorry that happened. I hope he takes a while to heal, and decides to come back.
re: #18 Targetpractice
So I check the news and you can imagine my (total lack of) surprise that the one charge that most of the experts declared was a slam-dunk in the Rittenhouse case…is the charge the judge just decided (over the prosecutor’s objection) doesn’t apply to this case and so has dismissed as the defense’s insistence.
“I have big problems with this statute, I have made no bones about that from the beginning,” Schroeder said Monday, but determined that the gun’s barrel was not shorter than the legal limit.
Prosecutors also agreed that the barrel was a legal length.
re: #27 Charles Johnson
For those who missed it yesterday, Joe Bacon has left and he isn’t coming back. He was very hurt by what happened the other night, and he feels very unwelcome here.
I continue to be saddened by the whole mess. I was annoyed at times by both of the parties involved, sure, but that just kind of goes with the territory here sometimes. And while it’s not for me or anyone else here to tell him what to feel or what to do, seems to me maybe Joe’s overreacting at this point a little? Teleskiguy has apologized for what was obviously a very low point for him, and we know he’s been through a lot this last year. I’ve seen plenty of lizards (present company included) trying to tell Joe he’s still welcome here and this was more about Teleskiguy than it was ever about him.
Hopefully at some point Joe will realize that and know he’s still welcome back here. I’ll miss his stories and his LA deli food.
re: #27 Charles Johnson
For those who missed it yesterday, Joe Bacon has left and he isn’t coming back. He was very hurt by what happened the other night, and he feels very unwelcome here.
Did other people join in the bullying, or was it one troubled user claiming he had the support of others in private messages when he attacked Joe as part of his flounce?
I’d bailed from the thread when seeing that nasty post, because the alternative was coming in hot, and ripping into the flouncer who had already lost his mind, which didn’t seem helpful at the time.
re: #30 Shropshire Slasher
The judge essentially says an AR-15 is not a “dangerous weapon.” From the article … pic.twitter.com/yQvTLhn8Sv
— Don Lewis (@DonLew87) November 15, 2021
Basically, the judge just carved out an exception in the state law to argue that rifles of “lawful” length are totally legal for 17 year olds to carry around in the state of WI period. He’s not even leaning on the defense’s argument that Rittenhouse was “hunting” that night, he’s just saying “If the barrel is long enough, it’s totally legal.”
re: #33 Targetpractice
“Any firearm” seems to me to be pretty simple. No reason to talk about barrel length.
re: #32 Punish Domestic Terrorists
I’m not gonna call out anyone, but it wasn’t just one person.
re: #32 Punish Domestic Terrorists
Did other people join in the bullying, or was it one troubled user claiming he had the support of others in private messages when he attacked Joe as part of his flounce?
I’d bailed from the thread when seeing that nasty post, because the alternative was coming in hot, and ripping into the flouncer who had already lost his mind, which didn’t seem helpful at the time.
AFAICT, no: it was just teleskiguy. Who later apologized.
Also: all the comments directed to Joe B. that I could see (mine included) were begging him to reconsider and (eventually) come back.
Like ipsos at #31, I’m saddened by the mess as well.
ETA: Didn’t see Charles’ post @ #36. Still sad,
re: #27 Charles Johnson
For those who missed it yesterday, Joe Bacon has left and he isn’t coming back. He was very hurt by what happened the other night, and he feels very unwelcome here.
if anyone cares what I think:
(if not, that’s fine too)
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Court reads charges aloud. “Contempt of Congress”
Two counts. Each count carries max of 1-year in jail and a $100,000 fine, per prosecutor— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) November 15, 2021
You might recognize Bannon defense lawyer David Schoen from the Trump impeachment trial earlier this year ====> pic.twitter.com/lzqacixkDM
— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) November 15, 2021
US District Court judge Carl Nichols will take over this case. Hearing Thursday at 11am. Virtual hearing, is preference for Bannon, per defense lawyer
— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) November 15, 2021
It wasn’t expected. But there’ll be no request for pretrial detention for Steve Bannon
— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) November 15, 2021
re: #11 Dangerman
“To say that a bill is right for your district… and something that you helped write, but then you’ve got to vote against it because you don’t want to give the other side a victory? That is a sign of what’s broken.”
— Rep. Don Bacon (R-NE), quoted by NBC News on the infrastructure bill.
Don Bacon is from Nebraska’s blue dot (NE-2). The district is a true swing district (they elected Don Bacon and Joe Biden).
The state legislature is trying to divide the district in half, so the blue dot is eliminated.
re: #29 jaunte
I’m sorry that happened. I hope he takes a while to heal, and decides to come back.
I hope so, too, but it doesn’t sound like it.
Yo’ momma’s so stupid she’s more upset about gas prices than the systematic murder of our democracy.
— George Wallace (@MrGeorgeWallace) November 15, 2021
re: #33 Targetpractice
You prosecute people with the laws you have, not with the laws you might want or wish to have at a later time.
Channeling my inner Donald Rumsfeld.
Jury is now watching video of Joseph Rosenbaum after he is shot. People rush to help him.
“You want to talk about medics, people who care, people who were trying to help, you just saw them…and while that’s going on, the defendant flees.”#KyleRittenhouse— Kristen Barbaresi (@KristenBarbar) November 15, 2021
yep, jury is seeing the videos during closing arguments
re: #41 gocart mozart
To be fair, the death of American democracy is an abstract problem that currently has no imagined impact on the daily lives of Americans. (It totally will, but that isn’t at all obvious to most ordinary people.) Gas prices are an immediate, tangible pain point that most people are very aware of.
Binger says after Rosenbaum shooting, the crowd thought Rittenhouse was an active shooter #KyleRittenhouse pic.twitter.com/TYGeEmPA5a
— Kristen Barbaresi (@KristenBarbar) November 15, 2021
This is Eugene Bostick.
He noticed that people were abandoning their dogs on a dead end street near his farm, so he took them in en built a train to take them out for rides..
The dream job for everyone..
🎥 IG/YT Fort Worth Star Telegram pic.twitter.com/Jz8T7rXdO1— Buitengebieden (@buitengebieden_) November 15, 2021
re: #36 Jay C
AFAICT, no: it was just teleskiguy. Who later apologized.
Apologizia is not a good answer.
Do not be a shit.
Excuses as to depression or dry drunk shit it bad are not the answer, we all need to recognize that if you’re in a bad state, don’t be an ass.
Sorry for the lecture mode
re: #27 Charles Johnson
For those who missed it yesterday, Joe Bacon has left and he isn’t coming back. He was very hurt by what happened the other night, and he feels very unwelcome here.
I’ve benefited greatly from Joe Bacon’s insight and knowledge. If he does not return, that would be a real loss.
I can keep up with him on Utah Outcast’s Slack channel, but that’s not the same as Mr. Johnson’s site here.
Binger: “According to the defense, if someone has a gun, they are a threat. If someone points a gun, they are a threat. There’s only one exception to that. The defendant. By their logic, he gets to run around with a gun all night.” pic.twitter.com/Fk2C3gWamK
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) November 15, 2021
re: #47 Colère Tueur de Lapin
Apologizia is not a good answer.
Do not be a shit.
Excuses as to depression or dry drunk shit it bad are not the answer, we all need to recognize that if you’re in a bad state, don’t be an ass.
Sorry for the lecture mode
That’s easy to say if you’re not in a bad state, and nearly impossible to assess when one is having some sort of breakdown. Going that far over the line is a good reason for a ban, though. Losing it and attacking others has consequences.
I’m going to trundle off to bed. Catch y’all later.
re: #50 Punish Domestic Terrorists
He hasn’t deleted the tweets attacking LGF and LGF members.
So no, he hasn’t really apologized in a way that means anything.
re: #42 Shropshire Slasher
You prosecute people with the laws you have, not with the laws you might want or wish to have at a later time.
Channeling my inner Donald Rumsfeld.
During the months of pre-trial motions and rulings, as well as the weeks of trial proceedings, the defense only now realizes that there’s a loophole to the law that they didn’t even bother to try to argue before today? They tried to get the charge tossed just days before the trial began and even then their entire argument had nothing to do with barrel length and everything to do with the “hunting” carve-out in state law.
oh
#BREAKING Putin tells Macron that US leading ‘provocative’ exercises in Black Sea: Kremlin pic.twitter.com/M2Rjdp9UH1
— AFP News Agency (@AFP) November 15, 2021
re: #52 Charles Johnson
He hasn’t deleted the tweets attacking LGF and LGF members.
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re: #52 Charles Johnson
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Not just Joe Bacon, but “Citizen K” (don’t remember exact name) got hit pretty hard, too. And I don’t recall seeing him posting afterwards. (edited for meaning)
I have really been rooting for ‘ski to make it, after all his troubles. This is just really sad all around.
Joe’s posting about dirt naps and all really offended me, but I just scrolled past them. K’s gloom and doom affected me, but again, I just scrolled past. And tried to upding them when they posted something I agreed with, which happened often.
If I updinged something the other night that I should not have, in retrospect, I apologize, and will go back and see if I can find it and fix it.
re: #27 Charles Johnson
For those who missed it yesterday, Joe Bacon has left and he isn’t coming back. He was very hurt by what happened the other night, and he feels very unwelcome here.
Oh no! What happened? I’m very sad to hear that. We’re generally a good bunch.
re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth
yep, jury is seeing the videos during closing arguments
Too bad they didn’t also see this.
re: #59 Patricia Kayden
Oh no! What happened? I’m very sad to hear that. We’re generally a good bunch.
Teleskiguy had some kind of crackup, flounced, and tried to do as much damage as possible on the way out rather than just going away. Suddenly, we were all his group-thinking enemy.
re: #62 GlutenFreeJesus
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Too bad they didn’t also see this.
they saw the very graphic ones of the killings and aftermath
re: #63 Punish Domestic Terrorists
Teleskiguy had some kind of crackup, flounced, and tried to do as much damage as possible on the way out rather than just going away. Suddenly, we were all his group-thinking enemy.
Yeah, tossing a hand grenade on the way out when the immediate response to the initial flounce was sympathy and understanding was not a good look.
re: #23 Charles Johnson
About all I recall Pence doing during his term, aside from performing his job on Jan 6th and attending the Biden inauguration without Trump, was the staged departure from a Colts football game in response to players kneeling during the national anthem
— 𝙒𝘽 𝙔𝙤𝙪𝙣𝙜 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips (@FormerDirtDart) November 15, 2021
re: #9 A Mom Anon
I wonder if it’s possible or if anyone has figured out the numbers on this for companies like Walmart and Amazon or most other large retailers. And then look at companies like Costco who actually raised their starting salary to 17 dollars an hour. I have a feeling it would just be a lot less expensive to just be a decent employer. You don’t have huge turnover, retraining or burned out employees, don’t have to deal with lawsuits and paying even larger groups of attorneys than you already have to as a company. I have to wonder about the same logic applied to what they do to fight taxes, labor laws and fair wages.
I hate lobbyists, that whole system is a huge part of why we’re here. And yet it’s rarely addressed, reported on and nothing is done about it.
FedEx struggled during its latest quarter due to labor shortages. UPS, which pays its unionized drivers the highest wages in the industry, is maintaining a stable workforce and rising profits https://t.co/Ops9jV3BPs
— Bloomberg Markets (@markets) November 4, 2021
You might find some items of interest in the Bloomberg article linked in the tweet. It’s another example of treating employees well (even if it was unions that forced that on you) reduces business risks.