PayPal “Bans” Jim Hoft’s Gateway Pundit Disinformation Site

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Jim Hoft compares himself to a victim of Stalinist Russia

Hey, I just became aware that the world’s shittiest blog, aka Gateway Pundit, home of the fabled Dumbest Man on the Internet, has been “banned” from Paypal! But damn. Just hate to see it. Don’t you?

Jim Hoft is handling it with his usual aplomb, comparing himself to a victim of Stalinist Russia.

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lawhawk  Jan 2, 2022 • 6:57:21pm

BWHAHAHAHA.

What was it that finally pushed Paypal over the edge and refuse to associate with Hoft’s agitprop site? I’m curious about that.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 2, 2022 • 6:58:24pm

Oh no. Oh dear. Whatever shall we do?

I hope it makes a dent in his income. He could use having to get a real job anyway. Nothing wrong with flipping burgers or cashier jobs.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2022 • 6:59:31pm

re: #2 A Mom Anon

Nothing wrong with flipping burgers or cashier jobs.

Despite what some believe, you do need intelligence for that.

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A Cranky One  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:01:20pm

Waste sewer inspector. He has experience.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:02:09pm

2022 panorama near Oxnard with unintended effects

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Captain Magic  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:03:09pm

Turns out the Netherlands have their own set of anti-vaxxers:

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:03:13pm

re: #1 lawhawk

BWHAHAHAHA.

What was it that finally pushed Paypal over the edge and refuse to associate with Hoft’s agitprop site? I’m curious about that.

He hasn’t said. We can only speculate.

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lawhawk  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:03:39pm

So, it got up to 60 degrees today. January 2. That’s before the front and coastal system comes through tomorrow morning.

It’s already dropped off and it’s going to snow here by morning.

Southern NJ is going to be getting winter storm warnings with up to 6 inches or more in spots. NYC metro is likely to get a coating to 2 inches. It’ll be cold enough for snow.

Fun times.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:04:28pm

re: #6 Captain Magic

Turns out the Netherlands have their own set of anti-vaxxers:

No guns involved. How about that?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:05:29pm

It’s a 29 degree windchill here right now. 🥶

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lawhawk  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:06:55pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

He hasn’t said. We can only speculate.

Forgot to pay bills?
Fraud?
Refund abuse?

Or.. violating the Acceptable Use Policy that prohibits using service to promote illicit acts or the promotion of hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory or the financial exploitation of a crime.

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Captain Magic  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:07:42pm

What’s amusing here is that Hoft compares his airbrushing to Stalin; implying he’s Stalin for his airbrusing. DERP!

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:09:55pm

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b.d. (The war is over)  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:11:07pm

Only Jim Hoft could make Soviet Russia look appealing.

//

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Mattand  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:16:08pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

He hasn’t said. We can only speculate.

It would be irresponsible not to.

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Mattand  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:16:57pm

re: #8 lawhawk

Southern NJ is going to be getting winter storm warnings with up to 6 inches or more in spots. NYC metro is likely to get a coating to 2 inches. It’ll be cold enough for snow.

Fun times.

Good Lord, that’s the first I’m hearing of that. I haven’t checked the weather in a bit, but every time I did, it seems like it was changing radically hour to hour.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:29:30pm

The NY Times editorial board issued a strong warning yesterday about the peril our nation faces due to the legacy of Trump, the January 6 rioters, and the nationwide efforts to prevent a legitimate vote in Republican run states:

Above all, we should stop underestimating the threat facing the country. Countless times over the past six years, up to and including the events of Jan. 6, Mr. Trump and his allies openly projected their intent to do something outrageous or illegal or destructive. Every time, the common response was that they weren’t serious or that they would never succeed. How many times will we have to be proved wrong before we take it seriously? The sooner we do, the sooner we might hope to salvage a democracy that is in grave danger.

Unfortunately, like practically everyone issuing these warnings they fail to take to task Cheney and Kinzinger, who despite their laudable efforts at revealing the plot and bringing to justice those who attempted to destroy our democracy in January 2021, have failed to match their words with appropriate deeds to stop state-level voter suppression efforts by Republican legislators nationwide.

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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:33:23pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:33:24pm

re: #17 Hecuba’s daughter

Add Manchin and Sinema to that list.

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nicdanger  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:41:13pm

re: #13 HRH Stanley Sea

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:45:21pm

re: #18 ckkatz

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“blah, blah, blah.”

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A Mom Anon  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:46:58pm

re: #13 HRH Stanley Sea

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:48:17pm

Jim Hoft was thinking locally when he called his site Gateway Pundit. People familiar with St. Louis would know what he meant to evoke, but I think most people think about a drug that leads to worse things.

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sagehen  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:49:04pm

re: #21 Barefoot Grin

“blah, blah, blah.”

yadda yadda yadda

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A Mom Anon  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:50:19pm

re: #24 sagehen

Charlie Brown teacher sounds; wah wah wha wha wha wha….

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:50:35pm

Who would have thought that terms of service would come to our shores one day?

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:51:33pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2022 • 7:56:57pm

Conservatives: Companies should be allowed to make their own decisions free of regulation or government interference.

Twitter: Okay, fair enough. *Bans prominent Republicans for TOS violations*

Conservatives: No, not like that.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:00:35pm

re: #18 ckkatz
My sister set up an interesting zoom get together a few days ago.
She does it every week with several artists she knows; this time she invited my niece, my oldest daughter, my wife and myself to join. Everyone introduced themselves and had a brief show and tell about the projects they were working on, then my sister put on some quiet music and kept the meeting open for an hour while we all worked on our projects, then came back on and showed the progress. It was both sociable and relaxing for a bunch of introverts in various places in the US and Mexico to get together and talk about art.

I’ll have to remember the وجرت بينهم خطوب يطول شرحها for next time.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:02:16pm
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DodgerFan1988  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:06:44pm

The Right beginning to sound like Communists.

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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:12:05pm

re: #21 Barefoot Grin

“blah, blah, blah.”

re: #24 sagehen

yadda yadda yadda

It’s amazing how some common experiences resonate across the centuries. :)

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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:19:41pm

re: #29 jaunte

My sister set up an interesting zoom get together a few days ago.
She does it every week with several artists she knows; this time she invited my niece, my oldest daughter, my wife and myself to join. Everyone introduced themselves and had a brief show and tell about the projects they were working on, then my sister put on some quiet music and kept the meeting open for an hour while we all worked on our projects, then came back on and showed the progress. It was both sociable and relaxing for a bunch of introverts in various places in the US and Mexico to get together and talk about art.

I’ll have to remember the وجرت بينهم خطوب يطول شرحها for next time.

I am impressed! Overcoming language barriers and artists being introverts, as well as the usual technical and meeting issues can be quite a challenge. And it sounds like your lady made the virtual get-together quite enjoyable as well.

Whenever I think of zoom meetings, this one, of a hearing in a Texas Court, comes to mind:

Filter turns lawyer into cat during Zoom hearing

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:21:54pm

re: #34 ckkatz

“I’m here live, I just look like a cat.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:22:05pm

re: #31 DodgerFan1988

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The Right beginning to sound like Communists.

Not really communism. It is fascism where every company must serve the state to promote the interests of the leaders and the minions of the Fascist Party (aka Republican Party). They do not care about silencing others — BLM, Democrats, environmentalists etc.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:25:17pm

re: #34 ckkatz

I am impressed! Overcoming language barriers and artists being introverts, as well as the usual technical and meeting issues can be quite a challenge. And it sounds like your lady made the virtual get-together quite enjoyable as well.

Whenever I think of zoom meetings, this one, of a hearing in a Texas Court, comes to mind:

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My favorite! “I am not a cat”. I posted that to my FB page when it first appeared on the Internet last February.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:32:25pm

Fuck.

Got home a bit ago, have to work tonight took a nap.

Woke up, house is getting cold. Furnace is making all the noises to start but isn’t.

I can’t get ahold of anyone at the rental office.

I’ve got the taps trickled and the toilet emptied.

I put my space heater on in front of the furnace in case the water drain hose is frozen.

Other than that I guess I have to wait for morning and maintenance.

Fuck.

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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:35:17pm
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Belafon  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:37:56pm
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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:38:06pm

Not much else I can do, I’m going into work early where it’s warm and I’ll stop at the main office on the way home tomorrow morning. Anyone got any other quick ideas?

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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:39:37pm

re: #38 William Lewis

Fuck.

Got home a bit ago, have to work tonight took a nap.

Woke up, house is getting cold. Furnace is making all the noises to start but isn’t.

I can’t get ahold of anyone at the rental office.

I’ve got the taps trickled and the toilet emptied.

I put my space heater on in front of the furnace in case the water drain hose is frozen.

Other than that I guess I have to wait for morning and maintenance.

Fuck.

Sorry to hear that. Hopefully the rental office will get it repaired before there is damage. I assume that you will be in the warm hotel.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:41:28pm

Yeah, I’ll be warm. The only thing I’m worried about is plumbing so if everythings running, it shouldn’t freeze.

I started up the old Sun workstation too. It’ll pump out some watts of heat… ;)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:41:43pm

re: #8 lawhawk

So, it got up to 60 degrees today. January 2. That’s before the front and coastal system comes through tomorrow morning.

It’s already dropped off and it’s going to snow here by morning.

As I noted in the last year, samevas here in the DMV - Montgomery Co., MD, has already canceled shcool for tomorrow. I was not expecting to see any snow this year.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:42:07pm
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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:45:38pm

I assume that you do not have any heat tape or possible insulation for the exposed pipes. Would ensuring that pipes are exposed to the, presumably warmer, inside air by opening cabinets help?

Maybe leave a note at the office if there is no voice mail or emergency number?

Otherwise, I guess moving and protecting your own stuff so that burst pipes wont damage that is about all you can do. And maybe securing stuff that you don’t want the maintenance guy to see and covet (like a recent purchase).

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BeachDem  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:49:29pm

re: #30 Dread Pirate Ron

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I believe my rep, Tom Rice, is the only (if not one of very few) who has said he regrets his vote on Jan. 6. Also voted for 2nd impeachment (and now has about 12 loony challengers for his seat)

newsweek.com

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:49:35pm

One of several reasons owning a gun safe is a good idea…

I’ll hit the office first thing in the morning and ask for an emergecy contact for future reference. With the water all running, I’m not too worried about the pipes.

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mmmirele  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:50:33pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

He hasn’t said. We can only speculate.

I’m wondering if it was at PayPal or at PayPal’s credit card processors. Not everything that gets donated via PayPal comes from checking accounts. Some people actually use credit cards via PayPal (not smart IMHO).

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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:52:43pm

re: #44 Colère Tueur de Lapin

As I noted in the last year, samevas here in the DMV - Montgomery Co., MD, has already canceled school for tomorrow. I was not expecting to see any snow this year.

Saw your post in the last thread and had been curious which county you are in. I take it Montgomery.

I’m in Fairfax County, just south of Reston. I prefer to use Herndon as my post office because it is named after a ship captain who went down with his ship in a major antebellum naval disaster. And that is somehow appropriate for this area.

Like you, I was not expecting much if any snow this season due to La Nina. If there is more than a couple of inches I may fire up the snowblower, just to verify that it still works.

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mmmirele  Jan 2, 2022 • 8:56:50pm

re: #27 jaunte

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:29:47pm

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:37:34pm

Why are the two areas in North Dakota growing so fast?

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:38:47pm

re: #53 Belafon

They’re having an oil boom.

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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 9:56:01pm

re: #53 Belafon

Also, a 20% change on a county population of 1000 people is very different than a 20% change on a county population of 10,000,000.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:04:08pm
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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:06:27pm

re: #56 jaunte

Money Laundering?

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:07:43pm

re: #57 ckkatz

I’m just a simple unfrozen cave man unwilling to participate in crypto-currency, but it seems fishy.

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:09:30pm

re: #52 BlueSpotinAL

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Last two days: Rain and drizzle, highs reaching up to 70F

Tomorrow: Rain turning to snow before midnight, high of 45F

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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:15:54pm

re: #58 jaunte

I’m just a simple unfrozen cave man unwilling to participate in crypto-currency, but it seems fishy.

Yup. I do not have the kind of mind frame required for money laundering. (Or the money…) But there are lots of articles on how to do it. My assumption is that by the time I see the article, that particular scam has long since been busted.

Here is one scam technique:

“Behind the facade of a bunch of bored rich dudes buying digital artwork at insanely high prices lays a sinister and twisted money laundering scheme for crypto’s ultra-rich elites to make their illegal profits look legal.”

“If you have $1 million in illegal money, you would spend $1 million on your own NFT. You can do this yourself or use a trusted third-party account. Then you resell the trash for nothing and bank the profits.”

cointelegraph.com

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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:23:12pm

re: #59 Targetpractice

Last two days: Rain and drizzle, highs reaching up to 70F

Tomorrow: Rain turning to snow before midnight, high of 45F

Looking at the Washington Post weather forecast; It looks like the major snow is predicted to be destined for points north of you. Not a bad place to be in, on the first Monday of 2022.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:26:24pm
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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:26:35pm

Well time to head to bed. Stay safe out there fellow lizards!

And, of course, the requisite ‘Dad’ Joke:

If sweet dreams are made of cheese…
Who am I to dis-a-brie?

And along the same line:

Did you hear about the cheese factory explosion in France?
All that was left was de Brie.

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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:29:04pm

Just saw this:

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:39:51pm

re: #61 ckkatz

Looking at the Washington Post weather forecast; It looks like the major snow is predicted to be destined for points north of you. Not a bad place to be in, on the first Monday of 2022.

For which I’m grateful, largely because the last two times that it snowed here the first week of Jan, I ended up stuck at my job for 4 days.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:43:27pm

Crap, I went out to the garage and my rear bike tire is flat. I was putting up with a slow leak in my front tire until something like this happened. Time to put the new tubes in and try a sealant this time.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:57:48pm

Gigantic bubble in the process of bursting.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 2, 2022 • 10:59:40pm

re: #67 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Gigantic bubble in the process of bursting.

I wonder how much collateral damage there will be around the world.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 2, 2022 • 11:06:20pm

It seems Evergrande was ordered to actually demolish some of its projects.

There’s this:

Evergrande’s plush sea resort project in Hainan Island ordered to shut down

The tourism development unit under the debt-stricken China Evergrande Group was ordered to remove its mega resort project in Danzhou, South China’s Hainan Province, according to an administrative penalty notice issued by local authorities citing the company’s unlawful means of obtaining the project certificate.

According to the notice, which has been circulating online since the weekend, the project - covering 434,941.46 square meters or 39 buildings of the Ocean Flower Island, an artificial archipelago in Danzhou, the world’s largest of its kind - was ordered to be demolished within 10 days.

[…]

I take it that “the company’s unlawful means of obtaining the project certificate” is bureau-speak for the government trying to find reasons not to be blamed itself.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 2, 2022 • 11:14:51pm

re: #69 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It seems Evergrande was ordered to actually demolish some of its projects.

There’s this:

Evergrande’s plush sea resort project in Hainan Island ordered to shut down

I take it that “the company’s unlawful means of obtaining the project certificate” is bureau-speak for the government trying to find reasons not to be blamed itself.

Is this the island?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 2, 2022 • 11:16:51pm

The Daily Beast runs this headline:

Have We Really Found Mary Magdalene’s Birthplace?

The first paragraph:

It is a rare thing indeed that being mistaken for a sex worker brings someone fame and eternal renown. And yet this is exactly what has happened to Mary Magdalene, the financial backer of Jesus, whose misidentification as a prostitute has followed her for 1,500 years. In a society that is increasingly areligious, Mary has cemented her place as a cultural icon.

Thing is, none of the claims embedded in that paragraph are historical reality. None of it. Well, maybe the last part about “cultural icon”, but only if one draws a careful circle around what “culture” one is referring.

None of the gospels are are first hand chronicles. Both canonical stories (Mk-Mt-Lk, and John) are religious documents intended to convert. Regardless of what else said books have as fiction, for sure the Mary Magdalene story is fictional, a plot device.

The Daily Beast story does, way down in the body of the article, go into the issues around the meaning of “Mary Magdalene”, so I’ll give DB some credit for bringing that up.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 2, 2022 • 11:19:07pm

re: #70 Dread Pirate Ron

Is this the island?

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Don’t know. The man-made island is supposed to be the biggest one in the world.

Chinese developers and Dubai are in a competition to see who can come up with the most expensive development that will be the first first-world victims of rising sea level.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 2, 2022 • 11:21:59pm

Richard Leakey, Fossil Hunter And Defender Of Elephants, Dies Aged 77

I believe he had been battling skin cancers of one sort of another for a long time.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 2, 2022 • 11:30:59pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 2, 2022 • 11:36:48pm

The difference between the hottest and coldest side of JWST is now up to 250C. That’s pretty impressive.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 2, 2022 • 11:38:57pm

JWST’s cold side is now about 25C colder than the cold side of the moon. Those heat shields are quite the thing.

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sagehen  Jan 2, 2022 • 11:53:23pm

re: #69 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It seems Evergrande was ordered to actually demolish some of its projects.

There’s this:

Evergrande’s plush sea resort project in Hainan Island ordered to shut down

I take it that “the company’s unlawful means of obtaining the project certificate” is bureau-speak for the government trying to find reasons not to be blamed itself.

If they’re demolishing it, the problem isn’t with the financing; it’s with the buildings’ safety. They’re trying to avoid a collapse like what happened in Florida, but with 100 times higher casualty count.

ETA: somebody paid off a building inspector to call it “up to code” when it isn’t.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 2, 2022 • 11:58:36pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 3, 2022 • 12:00:26am

re: #71 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The Daily Beast runs this headline:

Have We Really Found Mary Magdalene’s Birthplace?

The first paragraph:

Thing is, none of the claims embedded in that paragraph are historical reality. None of it. Well, maybe the last part about “cultural icon”, but only if one draws a careful circle around what “culture” one is referring.

None of the gospels are are first hand chronicles. Both canonical stories (Mk-Mt-Lk, and John) are religious documents intended to convert. Regardless of what else said books have as fiction, for sure the Mary Magdalene story is fictional, a plot device.

The Daily Beast story does, way down in the body of the article, go into the issues around the meaning of “Mary Magdalene”, so I’ll give DB some credit for bringing that up.

Name a scientific discipline and there’s bound to be at least one person with a PhD working in that field who has decided that they’ve nothing better to do with their education than “prove” the validity of or find the “true” location of some major Biblical event/person. Think my favorite running crusade (heh) is the location of the remnants of Noah’s Ark, something I’ve been assured more than once in my life has been found and whose contents were so “shocking” that they’re being withheld from the public.

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wrenchwench  Jan 3, 2022 • 12:19:55am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 3, 2022 • 12:41:51am

re: #77 sagehen

The story is, supposedly, that the certificate (permission) to build was “illegally obtained.”

It all sounds like a set-up to me. A way for officials to claim it was not them that allowed Evergrande to build so much in excess that it could not consumed.

In theory the CCP controls the entire bureaucracy. That includes even the local officials.

If Evergrande fails totally then that means the bureaucracy did not properly direct the building permit process.

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wrenchwench  Jan 3, 2022 • 12:44:03am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 3, 2022 • 12:54:33am
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sagehen  Jan 3, 2022 • 1:13:30am

re: #71 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It is a rare thing indeed that being mistaken for a sex worker brings someone fame and eternal renown. And yet this is exactly what has happened to Mary Magdalene, the financial backer of Jesus, whose misidentification as a prostitute has followed her for 1,500 years.

It worked for Kim Kardashian. And Paris Hilton. And Cardi B.

Not 1500 years, but… hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 3, 2022 • 1:15:32am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 3, 2022 • 1:23:49am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 3, 2022 • 1:56:19am

Maybe it’s just me but a logarithmic chart makes more sense when looking at stock market performance.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2022 • 1:58:01am

re: #6 Captain Magic

Turns out the Netherlands have their own set of anti-vaxxers:

All over Europe. They do not have a major political party backing them up, but they are very rabid and quite loud.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 3, 2022 • 2:15:16am

BOOM!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2022 • 2:17:28am

re: #81 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The story is, supposedly, that the certificate (permission) to build was “illegally obtained.”

It all sounds like a set-up to me. A way for officials to claim it was not them that allowed Evergrande to build so much in excess that it could not consumed.

In theory the CCP controls the entire bureaucracy. That includes even the local officials.

If Evergrande fails totally then that means the bureaucracy did not properly direct the building permit process.

Yes, in a hierarchy where power flows from the top down, then responsibility for fuck-ups has to flow back up to the top as well. Evergrande is only coming to light now because it is too big of a fuck-up to be papered over or pushed down the road.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2022 • 2:20:15am

re: #89 Dread Pirate Ron

What happened to the First Amendment!

If you had read it, you would note that it states that “CONGRESS shall make no law…” it says nothing about any privately-owned Internet platforms making rules.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 3, 2022 • 2:23:44am

re: #87 Dread Pirate Ron

For whatever one wants to believe about equities and capitalism, I can tell you right now that the curve looks too much like an exponential that has gone hyper-exponential, a bad thing in my opinion.

And exponential curve is the result of a function which grows as a percent of itself.

So if you are demanding that the equity market grows in value at x% per year, you are asking for the value to grow exponentially.

A hyperexponential is next order of hyperoperation also called tetration.

This is no more sustainable than Evergrande.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 3, 2022 • 2:24:45am

Go fuck yourself, Kevin.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 3, 2022 • 2:25:04am

The inevitable (and it is inevitable) crash of this kind of market could have profound consequences for our democracy.

Indeed, such a crash is what will return Trump, or even someone worse, to power in the US.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 3, 2022 • 2:26:06am

re: #94 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Unless the crash happens under a Republican.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 3, 2022 • 2:27:44am

re: #95 Dread Pirate Ron

Unless the crash happens under a Republican.

I don’t know if we can put if off that long. If the GOP is in the White House after 2024 then yes, they could be holding the bag.

But again, any Republican who will be nominated in 2024 is likely to be Trump or a Trump-approved candidate.

In a national emergency that is the last kind of President we need.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 3, 2022 • 2:29:59am

I have stated before and will do so again - the best defense against a malignant paper-wealth paradigm is to raise taxes.

We need to institute a wealth tax immediately.

And raise income taxes on the top half of the brackets and add another bracket on top for over $1M.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 3, 2022 • 2:44:45am

I’ve thought lately how neat it would be for the US to mint silver coins again.

The last silver quarter was minted in 1964.
The last silver half dollar was minted in 1970 (they were reduced silver content from 1964-70.)
The last silver dollar was minted in 1974 though the last few years were meant only for collectors.

Anyway, I think the silver is pretty and silver coins can be pretty too. Lovely to handle.

I think it would be neat to have them again.

Because the price of silver and the devaluation of the dollar, I suppose no denomination below $5 makes sense in silver. Maybe a smaller size $1 silver coin (silver allow over a copper core) could be made.

Then we could get rid of the paper bills.

Yeah, I know, Americans don’t like carrying coins

Still think it would be neat.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 3, 2022 • 2:46:21am

I’ve got a weed delivery coming at 10 AM, then a day of tire repair. I initially planned on the early delivery so I could ride tomorrow but the flat changed that. I set Don Ho on my phone to wake me up.

I drove down to the marina today to check on the “king tides”. Lots of trails at tide level were under water and some parts of the parking lots. After walking some of the trails I decided riding them on an e-bike is more than ten times as much fun.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 3, 2022 • 2:51:56am

re: #98 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Even before the ‘Twonies’ came to Canada I remember thinking, “I’m broke, I’m outa bills.” Yet, I still had 15 Loonies in my pocket.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 3, 2022 • 3:02:37am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 3, 2022 • 3:06:51am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 3, 2022 • 3:14:28am

I like my Bolton Blackbird. Goodnight.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 3, 2022 • 3:59:27am

re: #17 Hecuba’s daughter

The NY Times editorial board issued a strong warning yesterday about the peril our nation faces due to the legacy of Trump, the January 6 rioters, and the nationwide efforts to prevent a legitimate vote in Republican run states:

Unfortunately, like practically everyone issuing these warnings they fail to take to task Cheney and Kinzinger, who despite their laudable efforts at revealing the plot and bringing to justice those who attempted to destroy our democracy in January 2021, have failed to match their words with appropriate deeds to stop state-level voter suppression efforts by Republican legislators nationwide.

Pretty amazing when the NYT does little but downplay the whole thing. From half kissing trump’s ass to both sidering to all the other bullshit…this is a shitton of chutzpah from them.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 3, 2022 • 4:23:28am

I am in need of new anti-virus software. Anyone have a suggestion for the best one to get? My company uses McAfee and I don’t like it. I had Kazpersky which I removed because I think they’re more threat than helpful.

Thoughts?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 3, 2022 • 4:32:33am

re: #105 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I am in need of new anti-virus software. Anyone have a suggestion for the best one to get? My company uses McAfee and I don’t like it. I had Kazpersky which I removed because I think they’re more threat than helpful.

Thoughts?

I use AVG (free)

avg.com

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Thanos  Jan 3, 2022 • 4:38:13am

re: #101 Dread Pirate Ron

I had forgotten, I’m stealing that.

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sagehen  Jan 3, 2022 • 4:54:08am

re: #101 Dread Pirate Ron

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Soylent Green also takes place in 2022.

And, one of Beau’s videos reminded me of this… George Jetson was born in 2022.

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jeffreyw  Jan 3, 2022 • 5:17:03am

Random Raccoons

Good morning!

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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2022 • 5:33:45am

re: #86 Dread Pirate Ron

I remember when GOPers like Trump were touting that West Virginia was on top of the situation without any covid fatalities. Yeah, how’s that working out? Second highest per capita death rate since vaccinations. Florida isn’t far behind.

Once again, when you drill down, it’s the GOP that has prolonged the crisis, extended the mass casualty events, and pushing hospitals and HCW past the breaking point. Heck, Texas had to call in the feds to help with health care delivery because their hospitals were overwhelmed. Texas.

The same Texas GOP officials who attack mandates and sought to stop Biden from requiring vaccinations for federal workers.

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2022 • 5:34:37am
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Dangerman  Jan 3, 2022 • 5:39:52am

re: #105 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I am in need of new anti-virus software. Anyone have a suggestion for the best one to get? My company uses McAfee and I don’t like it. I had Kazpersky which I removed because I think they’re more threat than helpful.

Thoughts?

linux ;-)

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coin operated  Jan 3, 2022 • 5:40:33am

re: #105 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I am in need of new anti-virus software. Anyone have a suggestion for the best one to get? My company uses McAfee and I don’t like it. I had Kazpersky which I removed because I think they’re more threat than helpful.

Thoughts?

I’m going to 2nd the AVG Free recommendation. Been running it for years without issue.

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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2022 • 5:44:12am

re: #111 Belafon

The problem is a numbers game. The sheer number of people getting infected means that the number of hospitalizations is continuing to rise and outpace health care workers ability to deal with influx of cases. It’s not just patient beds or ER bays or ICU unit capacity.

It’s whether there’s enough healthy doctors, nurses, and other staff to manage the influx.

It’s whether there’s enough EMTs to transport sick patients to the ER in the first place.

In far too many parts of the country, “mild” omicron is deadly. It is mild only in comparison to delta and that’s if you’re vaccinated and boosted. If you’re not vaccinated, omicron can and still does kill. It also still kills others who aren’t dealing with covid, but get denied/delayed ER bed or ICU unit space because they’re out of capacity (either in beds or workers).

It’s coming to a head in many parts of the country, and it will break health care workers.

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Dangerman  Jan 3, 2022 • 5:49:06am

re: #114 lawhawk

The problem is a numbers game. The sheer number of people getting infected means that the number of hospitalizations is continuing to rise and outpace health care workers ability to deal with influx of cases. It’s not just patient beds or ER bays or ICU unit capacity.

It’s whether there’s enough healthy doctors, nurses, and other staff to manage the influx.

It’s whether there’s enough EMTs to transport sick patients to the ER in the first place.

In far too many parts of the country, “mild” omicron is deadly. It is mild only in comparison to delta and that’s if you’re vaccinated and boosted. If you’re not vaccinated, omicron can and still does kill. It also still kills others who aren’t dealing with covid, but get denied/delayed ER bed or ICU unit space because they’re out of capacity (either in beds or workers).

It’s coming to a head in many parts of the country, and it will break health care workers.

from that nyt article: Fauci More Concerned About Hospitalizations Than Cases

“As hospitals already strained by the Delta variant threaten to buckle under a crush of patients infected with the even more contagious Omicron, Dr. Anthony Fauci said Americans should focus more on the threat the winter wave poses to hospitals and less on the record number of cases..”

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Dangerman  Jan 3, 2022 • 5:52:05am

“The far-right firebrands and conspiracy theorists of the pro-Trump Internet have a new enemy: each other,” the Washington Post reports.

“After months of failing to disprove the reality of Trump’s 2020 presidential election loss, some of the Internet’s most popular right-wing provocateurs are grappling with the pressures of restless audiences, saturated markets, ongoing investigations and millions of dollars in legal bills.”

“The result is a chaotic melodrama, playing out via secretly recorded phone calls, personal attacks in podcasts, and a seemingly endless stream of posts on Twitter, Gab and Telegram calling their rivals Satanists, communists, pedophiles or ‘pay-triots’ — money-grubbing grifters exploiting the cause.”

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William Lewis  Jan 3, 2022 • 5:52:25am

re: #112 Dangerman

linux ;-)

FreeBSD ;-)

Fixed that for you… ;)

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William Lewis  Jan 3, 2022 • 5:53:31am

re: #105 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I am in need of new anti-virus software. Anyone have a suggestion for the best one to get? My company uses McAfee and I don’t like it. I had Kazpersky which I removed because I think they’re more threat than helpful.

Thoughts?

Realistically? Just turn on Windows Defender. Like most MS stuff it’s adequate.

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Dangerman  Jan 3, 2022 • 5:57:25am

re: #93 Dread Pirate Ron

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Go fuck yourself, Kevin.

a “partisan political weapon”, kevin?

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Dangerman  Jan 3, 2022 • 5:57:59am

re: #119 Dangerman

a “partisan political weapon”, kevin?

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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2022 • 6:17:09am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2022 • 6:19:41am

re: #120 Dangerman

Who are you going to believe, what Keven McC says he said or what the liberal media quotes him as saying?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 3, 2022 • 6:23:19am

Ham, beans and onion are in the slow cooker. It’s going to be a looooooong day.

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2022 • 6:23:19am

re: #117 William Lewis

FreeBSD ;-)Fixed that for you… ;)

I mean, if you want to spend all your time figuring out how to get something to work you don’t have to really worry about having enough stuff installed to be vulnerable.

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Dangerman  Jan 3, 2022 • 6:25:47am

re: #117 William Lewis

FreeBSD ;-)Fixed that for you… ;)

I did used to use avg when I had Windows
Also clamwin
One machine ran windows defender. Even that was less of a bloathog than norton

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Dangerman  Jan 3, 2022 • 6:30:45am

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2022 • 6:30:58am

re: #125 Dangerman

I did used to use avg when I had Windows
Also clamwin
One machine ran windows defender. Even that was less of a bloathog than norton

I uninstall Norton and install Avast every time I get a new machine.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 3, 2022 • 6:33:59am
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Dangerman  Jan 3, 2022 • 6:35:54am

re: #128 DodgerFan1988

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Meanwhile, from the New York Times:

“After long indulging him, leaders in the European Union now widely consider one of their own, Prime Minister Viktor Orban of Hungary, an existential threat to a bloc that holds itself up as a model of human rights and the rule of law.”

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2022 • 6:37:13am
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Mattand  Jan 3, 2022 • 6:37:43am

I’m using Malwarebytes for the occasional scan on my MacBook Pro. Seems to be okay. Not sure if there’s a Windows version.

EDIT: It does.

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2022 • 6:38:03am
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darthstar  Jan 3, 2022 • 6:40:18am

re: #128 DodgerFan1988

I was really hoping he had his regular ‘strong on 2nd Amendment’ in there.

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darthstar  Jan 3, 2022 • 6:42:29am

re: #131 Mattand

I’m using Malwarebytes for the occasional scan on my MacBook Pro. Seems to be okay. Not sure if there’s a Windows version.

There is - I used it long ago. But as Dangerman said, Linux makes it unnecessary.

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mmmirele  Jan 3, 2022 • 6:49:30am

re: #67 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Gigantic bubble in the process of bursting.

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Yep…

It came amid Chinese media reports that the world’s most indebted developer was ordered by authorities in southern Hainan province to demolish 39 buildings in 10 days because the building permits were illegally obtained.

The order reportedly concerns the huge Ocean Flower project, which is a resort-style development built on islands off the coast of Hainan, according to the Chinese news outlet Cailian.

theguardian.com

Posting because it took me TIME to find a MAP of this fake island and gee, here’s a picture.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2022 • 6:55:22am

re: #135 mmmirele

The Chinese Communist Party is only letting this come to a head because it is too big to be concealed or deferred any longer. I wonder if it is going to take Xi with it.

After all, when you are in total control, you have to take total responsibility and there was no way this could have happened without the party being aware of it.

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Dangerman  Jan 3, 2022 • 6:57:22am

re: #134 darthstar

There is - I used it long ago. But as Dangerman said, Linux makes it unnecessary.

I was half kidding.
if you need Windows you need a solution.
And there are a number of good ones

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Dangerman  Jan 3, 2022 • 6:58:17am

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Chinese Communist Party is only letting this come to a head because it is too big to be concealed or deferred any longer. I wonder if it is going to take Xi with it.

After all, when you are in total control, you have to take total responsibility and there was no way this could have happened without the party being aware of it.

Maybe he read trumps book

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2022 • 7:06:25am

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Chinese Communist Party is only letting this come to a head because it is too big to be concealed or deferred any longer. I wonder if it is going to take Xi with it.

After all, when you are in total control, you have to take total responsibility and there was no way this could have happened without the party being aware of it.

I thought the point of total control was so you didn’t have to face consequences,

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Dave In Austin  Jan 3, 2022 • 7:10:45am

Powerball is $530mil tonite

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darthstar  Jan 3, 2022 • 7:11:48am

re: #140 Dave In Austin

Powerball is $530mil tonite

That’s worth $20

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 3, 2022 • 7:14:37am

This book on Smedley Butler by Jonathan Katz looks interesting. Here’s part of a longer excerpt in “Rolling Stone”:

….Late in 1935, Butler would go further, declaring in a series of articles for a radical magazine: “Only the United Kingdom has beaten our record for square miles of territory acquired by military conquest. Our exploits against the American Indian, against the Filipinos, the Mexicans, and against Spain are on a par with the campaigns of Genghis Khan, the Japanese in Manchuria, and the African attack of Mussolini.”

Butler was not just throwing stones. In that article, he repeatedly called himself a racketeer — a gangster — and enumerated his crimes:

I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street….

I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-12. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras “right” for American fruit companies in 1903. In China, in 1927, I helped see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.

During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. I was rewarded with honors, medals, promotion. Looking back on it, I feel I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was operate in three city districts. We Marines operated on three continents.

Butler was telling a messier story than the ones Americans like to hear about ourselves. But we ignore the past at our peril. Americans may not recognize the events Butler referred to in his confession, but America’s imperial history is well remembered in the places we invaded and conquered — where leaders and elites use it and shape it to their own ends. Nowhere is more poised to use its colonial past to its future advantage than China, once a moribund kingdom in which U.S. forces, twice led by Butler, intervened at will in the early 20th century. As they embark on their own imperial project across Asia, Africa, and Latin America, Chinese officials use their self-story of “national humiliation” to position themselves as an antidote to American control, finding willing audiences in countries grappling with their own histories of subjugation by the United States.

The dangers are greater at home. Donald Trump preyed on American anxieties by combining the worst excesses of those early-20th-century imperial chestnuts — militarism, white supremacy, and the cult of manhood — with a newer fantasy: that Americans could reclaim our sense of safety and supremacy by disengaging from the world we made, by literally building walls along our border and making the countries we conquered pay for them.

To those who did not know or have ignored America’s imperial history, it could seem that Trump was an alien force (“This is not who we are,” as the liberal saying goes), or that the implosion of his presidency has made it safe to slip back into comfortable amnesias. But the movement Trump built — a movement that stormed the Capitol, tried to overturn an election, and, as I write these words, still dreams of reinstalling him by force — is too firmly rooted in America’s past to be dislodged without substantial effort. It is a product of the greed, bigotry, and denialism that were woven into the structure of U.S. global supremacy from the beginning — forces that now threaten to break apart not only the empire but the society that birthed it….

rollingstone.com

It’s theme is how Butler blew apart a coup plot against FDR by corporate interests in 1934.

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jeffreyw  Jan 3, 2022 • 7:18:52am
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Belafon  Jan 3, 2022 • 7:21:20am

re: #143 jeffreyw

Of all the animals I’ve had, it’s the dogs that were the rat killers, not the cats.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 3, 2022 • 7:23:34am

re: #67 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Gigantic bubble in the process of bursting.

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Almost six hours since Evergrande halted trading of their shares “pending the release by the company of an announcement”…and still no announcement

The only announcement Evergrande can make at this point is, “Sorry folks, we’re broke. Looks like you’re shit outta luck.”

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Decatur Deb  Jan 3, 2022 • 7:23:36am

re: #141 darthstar

That’s worth $20

Odds are 1:292,200,000. You have a much better chance of dying before the drawing.

Eat Arby’s.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jan 3, 2022 • 7:25:19am

re: #109 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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darthstar  Jan 3, 2022 • 7:31:24am

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darthstar  Jan 3, 2022 • 7:35:25am

re: #146 Decatur Deb

Odds are 1:292,200,000. You have a much better chance of dying before the drawing.

Eat Arby’s.

And really increase the odds of dying? I’m not too worried about winning 530 million. I’ve lost on bigger lotto prizes than that.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 3, 2022 • 7:36:40am

re: #144 Belafon

Of all the animals I’ve had, it’s the dogs that were the rat killers, not the cats.

We had a Corgi that was a real mole killer. Would dig them right up (although they were only a couple inches under the dirt). He must have seen the dirt lifting up as they dug by. He would tense up, leap, dig a bit and come up with a mole.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2022 • 7:36:55am

re: #139 Belafon

I thought the point of total control was so you didn’t have to face consequences,

It works to a great extent, but this is something that affects an awful lot of Chinese whose assets are tied up in the housing market.

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Mattand  Jan 3, 2022 • 7:45:06am

re: #146 Decatur Deb

Odds are 1:292,200,000. You have a much better chance of dying before the drawing.

Eat Arby’s.

Nihilist Arby’s is peak Arby’s.

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darthstar  Jan 3, 2022 • 7:46:11am

re: #135 mmmirele

Okay - I had to look it up. Here are satellite photos from 2014 and 2020

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 3, 2022 • 7:47:38am

re: #150 Eventual Carrion

We had a Corgi that was a real mole killer. Would dig them right up (although they were only a couple inches under the dirt). He must have seen the dirt lifting up as they dug by. He would tense up, leap, dig a bit and come up with a mole.

Our dog has done that a couple of times (moles and chipmunks). What she really loves are little critter holes in mulch. She jams her shovel head in breathes in like a sommelier enjoying the scent of a fine wine, then starts rooting around for the wee beasties.

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Mattand  Jan 3, 2022 • 7:49:11am

re: #152 Mattand

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darthstar  Jan 3, 2022 • 7:50:00am

I really hope Jared and Ivanka have a big share of Evergrande stock.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2022 • 7:54:36am

re: #156 darthstar

News reports indicate that the Chinese Government is pumping nearly $200 billion into the economy to counter the shock.

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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2022 • 7:59:10am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 3, 2022 • 8:08:20am

re: #142 Barefoot Grin

This book on Smedley Butler by Jonathan Katz looks interesting. Here’s part of a longer excerpt in “Rolling Stone”:

……….
Butler was telling a messier story than the ones Americans like to hear about ourselves. But we ignore the past at our peril. Americans may not recognize the events Butler referred to in his confession, but America’s imperial history is well remembered in the places we invaded and conquered — where leaders and elites use it and shape it to their own ends. ……..

To those who did not know or have ignored America’s imperial history, it could seem that Trump was an alien force (“This is not who we are,” as the liberal saying goes), or that the implosion of his presidency has made it safe to slip back into comfortable amnesias. But the movement Trump built — a movement that stormed the Capitol, tried to overturn an election, and, as I write these words, still dreams of reinstalling him by force — is too firmly rooted in America’s past to be dislodged without substantial effort. It is a product of the greed, bigotry, and denialism that were woven into the structure of U.S. global supremacy from the beginning — forces that now threaten to break apart not only the empire but the society that birthed it….

rollingstone.com

It’s theme is how Butler blew apart a coup plot against FDR by corporate interests in 1934.

As Hegel famously said, “The only thing that we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 3, 2022 • 8:17:21am

re: #157 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

News reports indicate that the Chinese Government is pumping nearly $200 billion into the economy to counter the shock.

On one hand, I’m no believer in the concept of “too big to fail”. OTOH, I can understand why they’d do that. This is a failure on the order of Lehman Bros. or Creditanstalt in 1931.

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steve_davis  Jan 3, 2022 • 8:25:48am

re: #125 Dangerman

I did used to use avg when I had Windows
Also clamwin
One machine ran windows defender. Even that was less of a bloathog than norton

norton is like a malignant tumor. once it’s in your system, you will never be rid of it. there are entire websites built around showing you step by step how to actually remove norton, and it ain’t easy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 3, 2022 • 8:30:06am

re: #158 lawhawk

But if Manchin and Sinema won’t go for it, what’s the point? Just to get a vote on record?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 3, 2022 • 8:31:52am

I went to the doctor’s office this morning to have the stitches from the lahm attack taken out of my hand.

The doctor told me that another one of his patients died of COVID, after refusing to get vaccinated. He said it was the first COVID death of a patient since the vaccine became available last year.

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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2022 • 8:32:22am

School closures will be happening, whether the politicians want to admit it or not. Day care will be closed for the same reasons.

It doesn’t matter what the politicians want; they want to keep the schools open. Yeah, that’s not going to work out when covid is sweeping through schools and staff. Who’s going to be doing the teaching if teachers are out sick? We already have glimpses of this with staff shortages in many districts around the nation.

When enough staff are sick, they’ll have no choice but to go remote. Instead of preemptively shutting schools for two weeks, we’re going to see this slow motion train wreck because too many think the economy matters more than public health, when public health is essential to the economy. They’ve got it bass-ackward.

We continue prioritizing showing up to school for in person learning more than making sure that people remain safe in schools. Kids get covid too, and the long term consequences aren’t totally understood, but you know who else is in the schools?

Adults - many of whom are not young and can have one or more risk factors. Do their lives not matter? Apparently, not as much as you think.

What do the closures do for parents with kids? If you’re already WFH, you have to deal with your kid learning remote. If you’re unable to work remote, it becomes a financial hardship. That’s the thing that politicians are leaning into when they want to keep schools open. Mind you, spreading covid far and wide means that you’re overburdening the teachers, spreading covid throughout the community (as kids spread it to the adults and vice versa), and hospitals get overwhelmed by the sheer numbers.

That’s the thing. All too many people are claiming that omicron is mild. Mild compared to what? If you’re vaccinated, mild might mean the worst cold of your life and prolonged side effects for weeks or months later.

If you’re not vaccinated, you could end up in the ER. If you’re in need of an ER, it isn’t mild. All those ER visits add up to additional strain on an already hamstrung health care delivery system facing significant absences due to covid among staff. That delays care for everyone trying to get diagnosed, admitted, and cared for in the appropriate setting. That adds to the mortality rate overall as more cases and fewer doctors means worsening care.

So yeah, mask up, vaccinate, and prepare for more bad jobu in coming weeks.

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2022 • 8:33:29am

re: #162 Eclectic Cyborg

But if Manchin and Sinema won’t go for it, what’s the point? Just to get a vote on record?

I don’t think we’ve heard their status on this, and while they have been frustrating on economic stuff, they’ve still been backing a lot of the social stuff, especially Biden’s nominees. We’ll see what they do on this.

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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2022 • 8:34:59am

The official death toll in the US is going to significantly undercount covid deaths. But they’re dead all the same - due to covid.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 3, 2022 • 8:35:49am

re: #164 lawhawk

School closures will be happening, whether the politicians want to admit it or not. Day care will be closed for the same reasons.

It doesn’t matter what the politicians want; they want to keep the schools open. Yeah, that’s not going to work out when covid is sweeping through schools and staff. Who’s going to be doing the teaching if teachers are out sick? We already have glimpses of this with staff shortages in many districts around the nation.

When enough staff are sick, they’ll have no choice but to go remote. Instead of preemptively shutting schools for two weeks, we’re going to see this slow motion train wreck because too many think the economy matters more than public health, when public health is essential to the economy. They’ve got it bass-ackward.

We continue prioritizing showing up to school for in person learning more than making sure that people remain safe in schools. Kids get covid too, and the long term consequences aren’t totally understood, but you know who else is in the schools?

Adults - many of whom are not young and can have one or more risk factors. Do their lives not matter? Apparently, not as much as you think.

What do the closures do for parents with kids? If you’re already WFH, you have to deal with your kid learning remote. If you’re unable to work remote, it becomes a financial hardship. That’s the thing that politicians are leaning into when they want to keep schools open. Mind you, spreading covid far and wide means that you’re overburdening the teachers, spreading covid throughout the community (as kids spread it to the adults and vice versa), and hospitals get overwhelmed by the sheer numbers.

That’s the thing. All too many people are claiming that omicron is mild. Mild compared to what? If you’re vaccinated, mild might mean the worst cold of your life and prolonged side effects for weeks or months later.

If you’re not vaccinated, you could end up in the ER. If you’re in need of an ER, it isn’t mild. All those ER visits add up to additional strain on an already hamstrung health care delivery system facing significant absences due to covid among staff. That delays care for everyone trying to get diagnosed, admitted, and cared for in the appropriate setting. That adds to the mortality rate overall as more cases and fewer doctors means worsening care.

So yeah, mask up, vaccinate, and prepare for more bad jobu in coming weeks.

I was glad to hear this morning that the FDA has approved the Pfizer booster for 12-15 year olds. Once the CDC approves, I will get my 15 year old his booster.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2022 • 8:38:38am

re: #160 Dr Lizardo

On one hand, I’m no believer in the concept of “too big to fail”. OTOH, I can understand why they’d do that. This is a failure on the order of Lehman Bros. or Creditanstalt in 1931.

Moral Risk goes right out the window when the entire economic system is at risk, and most of all, when Chairman Xi’s grip on power is threatening to come undone.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 3, 2022 • 8:40:33am

More good news; Rand Paul is removing himself from Youtube.

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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2022 • 8:41:44am

AG James is kicking off the new year with… more subpoenas on Trumpworld. This is part of her civil investigation into Trump’s finances.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2022 • 8:44:20am

re: #170 lawhawk

AG James is kicking off the new year with… more subpoenas on Trumpworld. This is part of her civil investigation into Trump’s finances.

Just get Trump on the witness stand under oath and he will wind up with his foot so far in his mouth that he will have to tie his shoelaces through his belly button.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 3, 2022 • 8:44:45am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Moral Risk goes right out the window when the entire economic system is at risk, and most of all, when Chairman Xi’s grip on power is threatening to come undone.

Yep. Wouldn’t want it to seem like the Emperor there is losing the Mandate of Heaven.

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IngisKahn  Jan 3, 2022 • 8:46:52am

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No Malarkey!  Jan 3, 2022 • 8:54:24am
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The Squire of Logos  Jan 3, 2022 • 8:56:43am

re: #174 No Malarkey!

You know what else never fails to astonish? People who refuse to get the vaccine, wear a mask, social distance, avoid crowded indoor spaces, etc. etc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:03:26am

meanwhile in Florida, more word salad:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:04:44am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:11:36am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

I assumed they will be passed in a smoke-filled room at 3am…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:19:36am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:21:13am

re: #166 lawhawk

The official death toll in the US is going to significantly undercount covid deaths. But they’re dead all the same - due to covid.

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The 40% increase in mortality among working age Americans would include those who were unable to access treatment because of overburdened health care systems and those who were afraid (like me!) to go to the doctor for fear of catching Covid, and thereby not diagnosed for an ailment they might otherwise have survived. Also those who were ill but whose body was further damaged by Covid and who died prematurely because of the additional harm inflicted by the disease, such as my friend with pancreatic cancer who got Covid and survived, but died shortly afterwards because they had to suspend his aggressive chemotherapy due to his weakened system.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:23:16am
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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:24:48am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

Low value testing: testing that helps contain the spread of covid19.
High value testing: any testing that can lay blame/fault for spread of covid19 on Biden.

GOP continues politicizing the pandemic and the response from GOP controlled states has been far worse than average.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:24:50am

moron

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The Squire of Logos  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:25:17am

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

Devin Nunes gone…

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:28:29am

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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So he is saying Biden should be making decisions for his state? Fine, Biden should tell all Floriduh they have to mask up and show vaccination or current test to enter a public place.

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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:29:34am

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:31:12am

re: #186 lawhawk

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And I am sure Biden was “at the beach” in the middle of winter. He must be thinking of the Jersey Whale.

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Teukka  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:33:24am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:34:34am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:37:55am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:38:55am

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

The white power fucks think that their world as they know it is ending anyway. Their dystopian nightmare of vegan restaurants and multicultural families is horrifying to them, they’d literally rather be dead. That’s the level of total batshit insanity.

And their support for Israel has fuck all to do with any concern for Jews or Judaism, it is all about helping the Israeli government create conditions to fulfill their Apocalyptic End-Times prophecies and help kick-start Armageddon.

That is how much of a sick fucking Biblical death cult they are.

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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:39:44am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:40:42am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:41:46am

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dangerman  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:45:18am

re: #192 lawhawk

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they very carefully said “at” not “in”

unless they’re really not that clever, which is also a possibility

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:47:50am

re: #195 Dangerman

they very carefully said “at” not “in”

unless they’re really not that clever, which is also a possibility

The main stress is on how “stilted” the MSM are in regard to AOC and anybody else they don’t like.

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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:54:10am

re: #195 Dangerman

they very carefully said “at” not “in”

unless they’re really not that clever, which is also a possibility

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No. Not clever. Because the tweet’s lede says in.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:54:41am

re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I assumed they will be passed in a smoke-filled room at 3am…

The GOP has a supermajority in the Kentucky General Assembly, so they can enact any gerrymander they want. The only limitation is Kentucky law which puts limits on splitting counties more than necessary.

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Captain Magic  Jan 3, 2022 • 9:57:19am

NBC News: GOP Rep. Devin Nunes resigns from Congress to become CEO of Trump’s media company

Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., will resign from Congress to become chief executive of former President Donald Trump’s fledgling social media company next month.
Nunes, the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, will start as CEO of Trump Media & Technology Group in January.
Nunes, who boasts of being a dairy farmer, will begin his new career despite having no apparent prior experience working in the tech industry or as an executive.
The announcement came after documents revealed that the SPAC that plans to merge with Trump’s company is being investigated by the Securities and Exchange Commission.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:08:51am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:09:05am

re: #199 Captain Magic

I wonder how many Scaramuccis Nunes will last in his new gig?

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No Malarkey!  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:12:12am
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gocart mozart  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:13:44am

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:16:12am
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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:17:26am

re: #202 No Malarkey!

The leading cause of death for all law enforcement, firefighters, and EMTs during 2020 and 2021: covid19.

The GOP, which loves to claim that they’re big supporters of all of the above, have done nothing to stop the spread of covid. They just love having them as backdrops, and then insist they drop dead when the first responders need help.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:19:29am

“diversity of opinion”
O_o

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:19:32am

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes, let’s stick our heads in the sand and pretend that Covid-19 has disappeared. Perfect plan.

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:21:32am

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

“diversity of opinion”
O_o

There’s plenty of diversity of opinion without getting people sick.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:22:20am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yes. Us here in the north just huddle in our igloos when the snow starts flying. Hoping we have enough seal blubber to hold us through until the sun finally comes out and melts all the white lava. Or we just go on about our daily errands, maybe at a slower speed if we have any sense.

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aatharuv  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:22:44am

re: #203 gocart mozart

Wastewater analysis would be a smoking gun that they’re lying..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:23:03am
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mmmirele  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:24:07am

She seems nice.

A woman who claims insurrectionist Ashli Babbitt repeatedly rammed an SUV into her car four years before she was shot dead at the Capitol riot has spoken out about the terrifying ordeal for the first time. Celeste Norris, who was then the girlfriend of Babbitt’s future husband, told the Associated Press that she discovered Babbitt was having an affair with her boyfriend in 2015, so she called Babbitt’s husband to tell him about it. In July 2016, Babbitt allegedly attacked her. “She pulls up yelling and screaming,” Norris told AP. “It took me a good 30 seconds to figure out who she was… Just all sorts of expletives, telling me to get out of the car, that she was going to beat my ass.” Babbitt was charged with multiple misdemeanors over the SUV incident. Then, in February 2017, Norris obtained a peace order against Babbitt citing harassment and stalking. “I lived in fear because I didn’t know what she was capable of,” Norris said. “I was constantly looking over my shoulder.” Babbitt was fatally shot by Capitol Police while trying to break through the inner doors of Congress on Jan. 6, 2021.

thedailybeast.com

And Happy First Business Day of 2022 !

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:25:33am

thread

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:25:41am

re: #170 lawhawk

AG James is kicking off the new year with… more subpoenas on Trumpworld. This is part of her civil investigation into Trump’s finances.

And Donny jr and Ivanka told her to pound sand. I hope they wind up in prison for that alone. If I ignored a subpoena I would wind up in jail. Fuck both of them.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:26:33am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:28:44am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

I can’t stop laughing!! What does a snowstorm that you could have avoided by keeping your behind at home have to do with BLM? Someone please help me with this!! 😂 😆

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:29:59am

re: #216 Patricia Kayden

I have no idea. They should come to Philly. There is very little snow here.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:30:01am

re: #216 Patricia Kayden

I can’t stop laughing!! What does a snowstorm that you could have avoided by keeping your behind at home have to do with BLM? Someone please help me with this!! 😂 😆

I think it’s to do with the fact that President Biden held up traffic by returning back to the White House during the storm. Because the President’s travel schedule is soooo easy to just alter on a whim these days.

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mmmirele  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:31:09am

re: #71 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The Daily Beast runs this headline:

Have We Really Found Mary Magdalene’s Birthplace?

The first paragraph:

Thing is, none of the claims embedded in that paragraph are historical reality. None of it. Well, maybe the last part about “cultural icon”, but only if one draws a careful circle around what “culture” one is referring.

None of the gospels are are first hand chronicles. Both canonical stories (Mk-Mt-Lk, and John) are religious documents intended to convert. Regardless of what else said books have as fiction, for sure the Mary Magdalene story is fictional, a plot device.

The Daily Beast story does, way down in the body of the article, go into the issues around the meaning of “Mary Magdalene”, so I’ll give DB some credit for bringing that up.

Candida Moss is a legit scholar, I’m sure the article was edited to go with sensationalism at the top.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:32:05am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:32:36am
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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:32:42am

re: #216 Patricia Kayden

I can’t stop laughing!! What does a snowstorm that you could have avoided by keeping your behind at home have to do with BLM? Someone please help me with this!! 😂 😆

The complaint is road conditions suck.

Yeah, DC is really known for getting road conditions just right during snowstorms. Like historically.

Narrator: DC roads have always sucked during snowstorms. They even suck after snowstorms.

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:33:43am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

What is Brody going on about?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:35:25am

oh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:35:49am

re: #223 Belafon

What is Brody going on about?

it’s a day ending in “y”…

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:37:22am

re: #222 lawhawk

The complaint is road conditions suck.

Yeah, DC is really known for getting road conditions just right during snowstorms. Like historically.

Narrator: DC roads have always sucked during snowstorms. They even suck after snowstorms.

In other words, he’s known for a long time that driving in snow there sucks and yet he did it anyway.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:40:35am

It’s Raw Story, but this year just keeps getting better and better. Ol Marg just got a Facebook suspension today

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darthstar  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:40:56am

Tree’s down. I always stand on one side and feed the strings of lights (about seven of them) back and forth so once I get all the ornaments off I can stand on one side of the tree in the driveway and just pull them all off like I’m pulling the zipper thread on top of a bag of feed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:41:37am

sigh

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darthstar  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:41:58am

re: #227 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

It’s Raw Story, but this year just keeps getting better and better. Ol Marg just got a Facebook suspension today

Sucks to be her.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:42:11am
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Wile E. Wonka  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:43:40am

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

…as he speaks against a backdrop festooned with the logo of Broward Health, which is known for (checks notes) heavily promoting Gov. DeSantis’ favorite monoclonal antibody treatments in lieu of vaccination, masking, and testing.

Hence the prominent “Early Treatment Saves Lives” slogan on the lectern.

Cue the Upton Sinclair quote machine!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:43:46am

One of my unvaxxed coworkers (remote) is sick with COVID. I like him a lot and have tried to get him to get the job. Fuck, man. Some people are just so damn stubborn.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:43:51am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

PECO will be rolling out soon to restore power to those folks.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:44:43am

re: #230 darthstar

Sucks to be her.

That, my dude, is an understatement of epic proportions.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:44:55am

re: #232 Wile E. Wonka

Hence the prominent “Early Treatment Saves Lives” slogan on the lectern.

Wouldn’t the earliest treatment be a preventive treatment, like, y’know… the vaccine?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:45:17am

And the hubs just said it looks like Ontario is going to go into lockdown again.

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Dangerman  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:48:23am

re: #202 No Malarkey!

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How is dying of covid “in the line of duty”?

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darthstar  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:50:10am

re: #238 Dangerman

How is dying of covid “in the line of duty”?

Your periodic reminder that Andrew Breitbart is still dead.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:51:22am

How long before contempt charges are filed and arrest warrants issued?

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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:53:01am

re: #240 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Civil case.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:56:01am

*sigh* So no contempt charges then?

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:56:15am

re: #241 lawhawk

Civil case.

What does that mean in terms of options for the AG?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:56:38am

re: #186 lawhawk

DeathSantis must think his supporters are so divorced from the real world — or maybe it is he that is so divorced — that they would not realize that no one is going to relax at the beach in the north during winter. What an idiot!

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Mike Lamb  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:58:30am

re: #242 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

*sigh* So no contempt charges then?

They can 100% be held in contempt. Not sure if they could be threatened with jail time though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:59:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:59:30am

re: #207 Patricia Kayden

Yes, let’s stick our heads in the sand and pretend that Covid-19 has disappeared. Perfect plan.

Hard to do if you keep testing…

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darthstar  Jan 3, 2022 • 10:59:53am

re: #242 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

*sigh* So no contempt charges then?

Civil case could lead to criminal charges. Also, if the NY AG wants to, they can make their refusal to comply hurt.

Failure to respond to a subpoena is punishable as contempt by either the court or agency issuing the subpoena. Punishment may include monetary sanctions (even imprisonment although extremely unlikely).

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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:00:00am

re: #243 Belafon

What does that mean in terms of options for the AG?

This will be standard NYS motion practice as per the CPLR. They’re trying to quash the subpoenas, and AG James will assert her right for their compliance. Court will issue a ruling after both side make their filings.

It’s entirely expected of course, since Trumpworld has so much to hide.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:00:23am

re: #232 Wile E. Wonka

…as he speaks against a backdrop festooned with the logo of Broward Health, which is known for (checks notes) heavily promoting Gov. DeSantis’ favorite monoclonal antibody treatments in lieu of vaccination, masking, and testing.

Hence the prominent “Early Treatment Saves Lives” slogan on the lectern.

Cue the Upton Sinclair quote machine!

I’m still trying to figure out how “Early Treatment Saves Lives” when there is no testing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:01:23am

re: #218 Dopamine Fish

I think it’s to do with the fact that President Biden held up traffic by returning back to the White House during the storm. Because the President’s travel schedule is soooo easy to just alter on a whim these days.

Trump’s schedule was flexible - to allow for maximum golfing.

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:02:03am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m still trying to figure out how “Early Treatment Saves Lives” when there is no testing.

The wealthy will be able to get tested.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:02:05am

re: #249 lawhawk

This will be standard NYS motion practice as per the CPLR. They’re trying to quash the subpoenas, and AG James will assert her right for their compliance. Court will issue a ruling after both side make their filings.

It’s entirely expected of course, since Trumpworld has so much to hide.

And it’s after that ruling that contempt of court may apply, depending on how it’s ruled. If the subpoenas are upheld, and these idjits still refuse to comply, they can be held in contempt of court and fined or even jailed, which I suppose depends on the circumstances and on how long they drag things out before complying.

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ckkatz  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:02:41am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

Distracted Driving Safety Act of 2004: restrictions on mobile phone use while driving

“The law prohibits “distracted driving” by tightly restricting the use of mobile telephones and other electronic devices while driving in DC. Specifically, the law states that no person shall use a mobile telephone or other electronic device while operating a moving motor vehicle, unless the telephone or device is equipped with a hands-free accessory. “

mpdc.dc.gov

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darthstar  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:05:27am

Saw some bugs on our walk this morning…I know the people on the Krabmandu…loco indeed.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:08:01am

I just got an “explanation” of why my timesheet had a higher number than usual. They added the two holidays (Christmas and New Years) to my hours to be paid. The holidays will be put into compensate days. I am sure there must be a better way to break it down but that is what they are doing for now.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:10:22am

re: #222 lawhawk

Why is Brody driving around during a snowstorm? The federal government and most other businesses and services are completely closed. Plus, we have been advised to keep our behinds at home.
And the BLM reference is killing me. I love the dragging he’s deservedly getting.

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ckkatz  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:12:14am

re: #78 GlutenFreeJesus

Ha!

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jeffreyw  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:12:28am

re: #236 Dopamine Fish

Wouldn’t the earliest treatment be a preventive treatment, like, y’know… the vaccine?

They’d rather get an abortion than wear a condom?

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No Malarkey!  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:15:13am

My 60th prominent anti-vaxxer to die of Covid, a Greek Orthodox Bishop. Reigious/spiritual antivaxxers retain a slight 17-15 lead over dead antivaxx politicians. ekathimerini.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:17:03am

re: #260 No Malarkey!

My 60th prominent anti-vaxxer to die of Covid, a Greek Orthodox Bishop. Reigious/spiritual antivaxxers retain a slight 17-15 lead over dead antivaxx politicians. ekathimerini.com

A race in which there are no winners…

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:19:01am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A race in which there are no winners…

We are.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:19:25am

re: #257 Patricia Kayden

Why is Brody driving around during a snowstorm? The federal government and most other businesses and services are completely closed. Plus, we have been advised to keep our behinds at home.
And the BLM reference is killing me. I love the dragging he’s deservedly getting.

Brody’s ratio is really satisfying

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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:19:57am

re: #256 PhillyPretzel

I just got an “explanation” of why my timesheet had a higher number than usual. They added the two holidays (Christmas and New Years) to my hours to be paid. The holidays will be put into compensate days. I am sure there must be a better way to break it down but that is what they are doing for now.

Great so it’s yours to use as you wish. Kitchen tool time?

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darthstar  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:20:52am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A race in which there are no winners…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:21:38am
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Jay C  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:21:57am

re: #201 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder how many Scaramuccis Nunes will last in his new gig?

I think the former Congressman is in for the “long haul” of at least one Friedman Unit: maybe two…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:24:14am
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:24:39am

re: #264 Rightwingconspirator

Holiday comps must be requested 2 weeks in advance and must be approved. This stuff is driving me crazy I got to find something else.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:24:50am

re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gettin’ Minky

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:26:01am
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darthstar  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:26:13am

I will say it’s good that Antonio Brown just shit-canned his own career - no team is going to want to touch him - the Bucs coach responding by saying, “Antonio Brown is no longer a Buc” at the news conference after the game probably sent a message to the other Antonios in the league that people won’t put up with their shit forver.

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darthstar  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:26:48am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

Probably just gas.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:27:33am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:30:17am

re: #249 lawhawk

This will be standard NYS motion practice as per the CPLR. They’re trying to quash the subpoenas, and AG James will assert her right for their compliance. Court will issue a ruling after both side make their filings.

It’s entirely expected of course, since Trumpworld has so much to hide.

Thank you for the explanation.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:30:32am

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Dave In Austin  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:32:53am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:32:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:35:28am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:36:53am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:38:18am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A race in which there are no winners…

Unless you count the rest of us.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:39:22am

asshole

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:39:39am

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

And it is overcast with the occasional snowflake floating by in NE Philly.

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jaunte  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:40:49am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:44:15am
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plansbandc  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:44:32am

re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s adorable!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:46:03am
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Dangerman  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:47:01am

Definitely eats at Arbys

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:48:31am

Let me guess: The RWNJs are all like: “If Global warming is a thing then why is the East Coast getting snow two feet deep?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:49:59am
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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:53:46am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

Some clever person on that timeline.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:56:55am

Whoopi Goldberg has COVID.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:57:22am

re: #292 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Sorry to hear that!!

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Mike Lamb  Jan 3, 2022 • 11:57:59am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

asshole

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He, uh, doesn’t know what the Sec. of Defense does, does he?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 12:00:32pm
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darthstar  Jan 3, 2022 • 12:01:07pm

re: #292 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Whoopi Goldberg has COVID.

People who have to be around a lot of people are going to get it. It’s just a matter of time - knowing she’s vaccinated makes it easier to take. Hope she recovers quickly.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 3, 2022 • 12:05:38pm

Tx Lt Gov tests positive. Sounds like he’s on the mend. shit.

khou.com

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No Malarkey!  Jan 3, 2022 • 12:07:06pm

re: #272 darthstar

I will say it’s good that Antonio Brown just shit-canned his own career - no team is going to want to touch him - the Bucs coach responding by saying, “Antonio Brown is no longer a Buc” at the news conference after the game probably sent a message to the other Antonios in the league that people won’t put up with their shit forver.

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Its remarkable how many opportunities players with his level of talent get, no matter how bizarrely they behave. Don’t be surprised if he gets invited to training camp by some NFL team, despite the unlikelihood that he will last an entire season.

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gocart mozart  Jan 3, 2022 • 12:11:07pm
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No Malarkey!  Jan 3, 2022 • 12:11:13pm

re: #288 Dangerman

Definitely eats at Arbys

If the GOP kills hundreds of thousands of its own voters this year, then gets rewarded for that by winning control of Congress in November, I just can’t even.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 12:11:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 12:12:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 12:13:54pm
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garzooma  Jan 3, 2022 • 12:14:30pm

re: #298 No Malarkey!

Its remarkable how many opportunities players with his level of talent get, no matter how bizarrely they behave. Don’t be surprised if he gets invited to training camp by some NFL team, despite the unlikelihood that he will last an entire season.

Someone pointed out that Brown is a 12-year veteran. He wasn’t always this nuts. CTE?

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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2022 • 12:20:35pm

re: #304 garzooma

That’s a definite possibility. One reason right here:

That’s him getting absolutely leveled by the defense.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2022 • 12:24:12pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 3, 2022 • 12:25:21pm
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No Malarkey!  Jan 3, 2022 • 12:26:10pm

re: #307 gocart mozart

Could that be an effect of having had Covid?

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 3, 2022 • 12:27:11pm

re: #308 No Malarkey!

Could that be an effect of having had Covid?

My first thought was opioid addiction….


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