Elise Trouw: An Amazing One-Take Live Loop Video, “See Through”

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Elise Trouw stopped by Sweetwater for an incredible rendition of “See Through,“ done as one of her acclaimed live loop videos and performed all in one take! A multi-instrumentalist with her finger on the pulse of everything new and exciting in music, Elise has made a prominent name for herself through several live loops and other videos on YouTube. With an appearance on Jimmy Kimmel Live!, an opening-act slot for Incubus, and a jaw-dropping re-imagining of Metallica‘s eternal “Enter Sandman“ alongside Travis Barker for the film Sound of Metal under her belt, this live-looping phenom shows no signs of stopping anytime soon.

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Written by Elise Trouw and Henry Lunetta
Music arranged by Elise Trouw and Henry Lunetta
Mixed by Henry Lunetta
Recorded by Shawn Dealey and Rachel Leonard of Sweetwater Studios
Video Directed by Joe Etemadi

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310 comments
1
darthstar  Jun 22, 2022 • 4:29:23pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 22, 2022 • 4:35:15pm

re: #1 darthstar

ICP will be classical music.

3
Charles Johnson  Jun 22, 2022 • 4:40:17pm
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nines09  Jun 22, 2022 • 4:42:14pm

Elise Trouw just killed me.
I step on a looper and all bets are off.
It is much harder to pull off than it looks. Trust me.
Give me 25 presets and I’m into a bridge abutment.
Give me 4 and I will still drag myself into off tempo insanity.
She’s got help on this.
Or I’m a bigger hack than I thought.

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nines09  Jun 22, 2022 • 4:45:49pm

re: #1 darthstar

Imagine the weeping fading bad ink on Grand Mom at the beach in later years.
“Is that a boo boo Granma?”
Na. It’s two bottles of tequila and an asshole on a Harley one night.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 22, 2022 • 4:48:44pm

re: #5 nines09

40 yr old Tramp Stamp. It used to be a rose garden, and now it’s just a blue briar patch.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 22, 2022 • 4:50:41pm

re: #200 Decatur Deb

re: #199 A Mom Anon

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Captain Ron  Jun 22, 2022 • 4:51:00pm
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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2022 • 4:52:25pm

How did pence and/or grassley not have a duty to inform doj

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 22, 2022 • 4:53:53pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 22, 2022 • 4:55:28pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 22, 2022 • 4:55:35pm

re: #9 Dangerman

How did pence and/or grassley not have a duty to inform doj

The Trump DOJ? What has come out about Grassley’s role in this?

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nicdanger  Jun 22, 2022 • 4:59:06pm

re: #7 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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I’m having cataract surgery done on my right eye done mid July. It is so bad now I don’t even clean the right lens on my glasses…

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nines09  Jun 22, 2022 • 4:59:40pm

re: #6 Dave In Austin

40 yr old Tramp Stamp. It used to be a rose garden, and now it’s just a blue briar patch.

I’m absolutely stunned by the sheer amount of just bad fucking ink on people. Like the carney came to town and what the fuck let’s get tats.
I had friends at the early age of 14 and 15 get tats.
Went with them. Tried to get me to get inked.
Nope.
Jo Jo in Port Richmond was a treat. Bring a quart or two of Ortliebs and settle in as the boys in the back would start bringing up “ideas”.

Dracula. Claim to fame on those he wanted to fuck with was a mistake. Sold the boys on “That’s how they know you got Drac on ya.”
His willie was tattooed they said.
I’ll take their word for it.
Clean to this day but sometimes….
Na.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:01:18pm

Surely Trump’s voice will end up on some devices.

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:01:28pm

re: #12 Hecuba’s daughter

The Trump DOJ? What has come out about Grassley’s role in this?

…..

From Roll Call and the Iowa Capital Dispatch on January 5, 2021: Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) told reporters that Vice President Mike Pence wouldn’t be available on January 6 to count the electoral votes for the 2020 presidential election.

Said Grassley: “Well, first of all, I will be — if the Vice President isn’t there and we don’t expect him to be there, I will be presiding over the Senate.”

Likely grassley knew

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Cheechako  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:04:01pm

Looks like SE Alaska is going to warm up “a little bit” next week. High 80’s will break a lot of records. Back in May we had 4 straight days of record high temps (78 +2, 80 +2, 83 +1, and 82 +3). Very few buildings have A/C up here as we normally only get 4-5 very hot days each summer. All we can do is sit back and enjoy the sunshine. Also, Tuesday was Summer Solstice. Today we have 18 hours and 18 minutes between sunrise and sunset. Naturally it’s been raining off and on all day.

Special Weather Statement
National Weather Service Juneau AK
217 PM AKDT Wed Jun 22 2022

AKZ018-019-025-029-232230-
Taiya Inlet and Klondike Highway-Haines Borough and Lynn Canal-
Juneau Borough and Northern Admiralty Island-Misty Fjords-
Including the cities of Skagway, Haines, Juneau, and Hyder
217 PM AKDT Wed Jun 22 2022

…SIGNIFICANTLY WARMER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES HEADING INTO NEXT
WEEK…

Widespread significantly warmer than normal temperatures are
expected by late this weekend as temperatures rise by a couple
degrees each day. The warmest days are expected to be early next
week with highs in the upper 80s and continued dry conditions.

These warm temperatures will cause glacially fed rivers to
gradually rise each day. Snow and glacier melt water into the
basins will cause cool water temperatures.

For details on specific locations important to you, see the point
and click forecast located at weather.gov. For important heat
related safety information, visit weather.gov and
weather.gov.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:07:21pm

Second train songs page is up. Many more to come…

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nines09  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:07:37pm

re: #9 Dangerman

How did pence and/or grassley not have a duty to inform doj

Book deal?

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:08:11pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Rightwingers will be celebrating. They’re dragging us back to the “good old days”.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:08:42pm

re: #15 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Black Mirror Season 2, Episode 1. Be Right Back.

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:09:09pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:10:10pm

re: #13 nicdanger

I’m having cataract surgery done on my right eye done mid July. It is so bad now I don’t even clean the right lens on my glasses…

Couple days of bother and you get back your vision from 15 years ago. (The gains can be maintained for decades with a 2-minute YAG laser “polishing” every 5 years or so.)

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:10:36pm
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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:10:59pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:12:44pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

The YAG laser punches a hole in a thin film of skin cells.

When the surgeon cleans out the old natural lens they can’t get all the live cells that live inside the capsule removed.

And living cells do what they do: replicate.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:17:18pm

re: #26 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The YAG laser punches a hole in a thin film of skin cells.

When the surgeon cleans out the old natural lens they can’t get all the live cells that live inside the capsule removed.

And living cells do what they do: replicate.

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Before I hit this doc I was juggling glasses for far and for near vision. Now I sometimes have to go find the reading glasses for tiny print.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:24:54pm
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nines09  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:26:32pm

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darthstar  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:29:55pm

Spent the last half hour lovin’ up my Taylor. Since I won’t be having a lesson this week my instructor emailed me the solo for Folsom Prison Blues - taught me the rest of the song a while back but I hadn’t played it much as I was focused on the electric. But I only brought the mahogany box with me up to the mountains, and let me tell you, sitting outside in 65-70 degree temps with a snow runoff creek for background noise and picking out Friend of the Devil is a pretty fuckin’ nice way to spend a part of your day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:31:39pm

boofuckinghoo

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Decatur Deb  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:35:15pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

boofuckinghoo

The world will be a better place if MTG has a full-time security detail.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:35:21pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:35:27pm

Photo break? From this morning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:36:02pm
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mmmirele  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:37:14pm

Fucktarded anti-abortion policies are possibly going to get a woman killed in Malta:

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Ming5000  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:39:05pm

Another striking video of the Trumpists invasion of the Capital.

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:40:18pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

because I don’t know if my life is threatened.”
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Then you’re an idiot.

Or performing

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Charles Johnson  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:43:35pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:44:44pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

She meant “Reptilicans.”

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:45:08pm

re: #38 Dangerman

Then you’re an idiot.

Or performing

Every public act is performative with her.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:45:30pm
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Sherlock Hound  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:50:09pm

re: #26 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The YAG laser punches a hole in a thin film of skin cells.

When the surgeon cleans out the old natural lens they can’t get all the live cells that live inside the capsule removed.

And living cells do what they do: replicate.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:52:22pm

Fifty years ago in this town a genius eye surgeon from Jamaica would not have been safe, saving a white man’s vision.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:55:18pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

How might we encourage this?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:56:01pm

Fundamentalists are still at it:

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nines09  Jun 22, 2022 • 5:59:31pm

Nightcap.

Later.

Youtube Video

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Decatur Deb  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:00:16pm

re: #46 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Fundamentalists are still at it:

If you clone a cell from the anal sphincter, you might get a human from the Other Party.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:01:27pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:01:42pm
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mmmirele  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:01:51pm

I am now uncomfortably sitting up in bed because I went on a coughing jag in mid-afternoon that lasted half an hour and left me winded and my chest hurting. That said, my temp is 98.1F and my SpO2 is 96 percent. I don’t think know that this is Covid-specific; I’ve always had issues with coughing spasms when I’ve had colds. But I have to admit that I was having thoughts about Covid lung while I was attempting to cough them up.

I heard through a coworker that a mutual coworker has also gotten Covid. Apparently her partner brought it home from a business trip. Coworker has had four bad days but is slowly getting better. She got Paxlovid but stopped taking it after a day because it seemed to be making things worse. I’ll know that I’m doing better if I can get through a night without my temp going past 100. Which hasn’t happened yet.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:05:38pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:05:40pm

re: #51 mmmirele

I am now uncomfortably sitting up in bed because I went on a coughing jag in mid-afternoon that lasted half an hour and left me winded and my chest hurting. That said, my temp is 98.1F and my SpO2 is 96 percent. I don’t think know that this is Covid-specific; I’ve always had issues with coughing spasms when I’ve had colds. But I have to admit that I was having thoughts about Covid lung while I was attempting to cough them up.

I heard through a coworker that a mutual coworker has also gotten Covid. Apparently her partner brought it home from a business trip. Coworker has had four bad days but is slowly getting better. She got Paxlovid but stopped taking it after a day because it seemed to be making things worse. I’ll know that I’m doing better if I can get through a night without my temp going past 100. Which hasn’t happened yet.

Who gives a fuck if it’s called CV19? If it get worse, see a doctor.

(Admission: This advice is easier to give if you’re on Medicare.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:06:34pm

re: #45 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

How might we encourage this?

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hey, Marge! Mitch and Lindsey aren’t up for re-election until 2026.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:06:37pm
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Belafon  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:09:59pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:13:09pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

It’s the only good thing McCarthy has ever done, and it was done by mistake.

To be fair, Pelosi helped McCarthy to his stupidity by rejecting the clowns he nominated.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:13:25pm

re: #4 nines09

Elise Trouw just killed me.
I step on a looper and all bets are off.
It is much harder to pull off than it looks. Trust me.
Give me 25 presets and I’m into a bridge abutment.
Give me 4 and I will still drag myself into off tempo insanity.
She’s got help on this.
Or I’m a bigger hack than I thought.

This may not be what you want to hear but I’m pretty sure she’s doing it all herself.

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:13:56pm
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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:14:00pm
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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:15:45pm

re: #60 Dangerman

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:16:09pm

re: #61 Dangerman

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retired cynic  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:16:34pm

re: #36 mmmirele

Fucktarded anti-abortion policies are possibly going to get a woman killed in Malta:

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Fly her out of there!!

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:18:59pm

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Charles Johnson  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:19:58pm
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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:21:05pm

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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:22:55pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:23:45pm

re: #63 retired cynic

Fly her out of there!!

Short flight. She’d be safe in Catholic/Communist Italy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:25:37pm

re: #51 mmmirele

Hopefully you will be getting over this in the next few days. My BIL didn’t take anything except OTC medications and recovered a week (or so) later, though he continued testing positive for a few weeks.

My sister told me today that my nephew just tested positive. He probably picked it up from his son — a two year old — who contracted it at day care from another child who tested positive. My grandnephew first tested positive this past Saturday.

So far there is no evidence of a surge in hospitalizations in the United States. So either variants are milder or vaccinations are doing their job or both.

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:28:39pm

re: #63 retired cynic

Fly her out of there!!

I read through some of the replies. The hospital is making it hard for her to leave.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:34:50pm

re: #70 Belafon

I read through some of the replies. The hospital is making it hard for her to leave.

Embassy/consulate involved?

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:37:03pm

re: #71 Decatur Deb

Embassy/consulate involved?

That I can’t tell you.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:37:54pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:38:39pm

Obi Wan

How does he live with himself knowing he could have stopped Anakin TWICE… saving Alderaan and so many people. Wtf man!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:39:15pm

re: #70 Belafon

I read through some of the replies. The hospital is making it hard for her to leave.

I recall that Savita Halappanavar was too ill to be transported to the UK where the procedure was legal. This may be the situation in Malta too. They couldn’t operate in Ireland and Savita died. This is so disgraceful — and that’s what Republicans are bringing to the United States, wherever they can.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:41:06pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:41:48pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

That’s all we’ll get this time, and it’s more than Sandy Hook. And another step after the next atrocity, and the next…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:43:00pm
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nines09  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:44:13pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Drum kit made me think of helpers.
But they are so far out on the cutting edge these days.
She’s got a rig and a half.
Ed Sheeran knows how to loop. I think he created his pedal.
But I am a hack and I’ll trip over any looper.

Youtube Video

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:45:58pm

had a backyard visitor after the storm passed this evening; lots of windfall apples to enjoy:

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:50:14pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

@Green_Footballs

I’ll repeat that: the GOP benefits from mass murder. It’s empirically true.

Consider the implications.

Mao smiles, cause he knows that a successful insurrection begins with impeding the political power of moderates, and polarizing the left and the right.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:50:36pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:52:31pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wake me up when they’re all in prison.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:53:35pm

re: #32 Decatur Deb

The world will be a better place if MTG has a full-time security detail.

Full time babysitter would be more betterer.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:54:26pm

re: #83 GlutenFreeJesus

Wake me up when they’re all in prison.

Prison is for 401(k) people.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:56:05pm

re: #84 Florida Panhandler

Full time babysitter would be more betterer.

Would you take that babysitting job without a sidearm?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:57:03pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mo Brooks testifying in public may be useless — he first has to testify to the committee behind closed doors so they know what he has. I wouldn’t trust a word out of his lying mouth.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:57:56pm

re: #87 Hecuba’s daughter

Mo Brooks testifying in public may be useless — he first has to testify to the committee behind closed doors so they know what he has. I wouldn’t trust a word out of his lying mouth.

He’s so stupid he sometimes blurts the truth.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:59:13pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 22, 2022 • 6:59:23pm

re: #87 Hecuba’s daughter

Mo Brooks testifying in public may be useless — he first has to testify to the committee behind closed doors so they know what he has. I wouldn’t trust a word out of his lying mouth.

They might also have some things already and Brooks might simply perjure himself.

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Captain Ron  Jun 22, 2022 • 7:09:04pm
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Belafon  Jun 22, 2022 • 7:09:06pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 22, 2022 • 7:21:12pm

re: #90 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

They might also have some things already and Brooks might simply perjure himself.

They don’t want a liar to testify in public because the MAGAts will believe his words. They believe Trump no matter how many times others provide evidence of his lies. It adds nothing for Mo Brooks to speak in public — Nancy didn’t want Jordan or Banks to distract from the investigation and Brooks will definitely do that.

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2022 • 7:22:14pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

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My guess is they don’t want to piss off the Rs and give them an excuse to about face

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2022 • 7:23:09pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

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We’re gonna need a bigger committee //

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2022 • 7:26:34pm

;-)

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Charles Johnson  Jun 22, 2022 • 7:32:28pm
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jaunte  Jun 22, 2022 • 7:39:11pm

SEARCH THEM ALL.

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jaunte  Jun 22, 2022 • 7:42:12pm
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jaunte  Jun 22, 2022 • 7:45:27pm
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jaunte  Jun 22, 2022 • 7:46:13pm
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Belafon  Jun 22, 2022 • 9:07:48pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Republicans don’t want people finding out how often shootings occur.

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jaunte  Jun 22, 2022 • 9:18:12pm
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Belafon  Jun 22, 2022 • 9:20:15pm

Thread:

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jaunte  Jun 22, 2022 • 9:21:45pm

re: #104 Belafon

A question that never arose in the Merovingen Nights series.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 22, 2022 • 9:24:50pm

re: #102 Belafon

Republicans don’t want people finding out how often shootings occur.

They like frequent shooting in cities so they can blame it all on minorities. They really don’t care — frequent shootings mean more people purchase guns. It is a vicious cycle that leads to escalating violence and it’s not clear what can end it. When 20 white 6 year olds are slaughtered and the GOP doesn’t blink an eye, that tells you that they don’t care who the victims are. They excel at distraction. As long as they exist as a political party in their current incarnation, there is no hope for any real policy to stop this butchery.

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Captain Ron  Jun 22, 2022 • 9:25:41pm

Weird weather. It’s night, 82F, overcast, with 27% humidity.

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ckkatz  Jun 22, 2022 • 9:41:38pm

I feel in good company now

I’m heading in next week for the start of my cataract surgery. Left eye first. Right eye at the end of July.

I suspect that I may not be doing much posting on lgf for a bit.

As the old Dad joke goes…

What are my plans for this summer?
First I get cataract surgery.
After that, I’ll see…

Best wishes to all the others awaiting cataract surgery!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 22, 2022 • 9:53:13pm

re: #108 ckkatz

It took about 2-3 days to be able to drive again after my first surgery. My second surgery was over a year later, but recovery was similar.

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ckkatz  Jun 22, 2022 • 9:53:58pm

Starting to hear more about Russian hacking and online dis-information attempts. It will be interesting to see how the West responds… Or maybe that is already happening…

But if anyone is an ISO (Information Security Officer) probably a good idea to be extra vigilant. And everybody probably would do well to ensure that they have good back ups and their operating system and software is up to date. Don’t assume that “security by obscurity” works anymore.

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A Cranky One  Jun 22, 2022 • 9:57:42pm

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JC1  Jun 22, 2022 • 9:58:04pm

re: #64 Dangerman

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The problem with Maine is that they were going to fund non religious private schools. I kind of agree with SCOTUS on this one, and I’m as atheist as they come. The rulling said that if a state starts funding private schools, they can’t exclude religious schools. The state should just stick to funding public schools.

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ckkatz  Jun 22, 2022 • 9:59:11pm

re: #109 Hecuba’s daughter

It took about 2-3 days to be able to drive again after my first surgery. My second surgery was over a year later, but recovery was similar.

Thanks for the very helpful data point!

I’m hoping for something similar. But I don’t want to make any assumptions or plans until the results are in.

Tbh one major improvement that I am looking forward to, is just seeing in less than full sun. Right now my left eye vision is like looking through dark grey tinted cellophane.

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ckkatz  Jun 22, 2022 • 10:04:45pm
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ckkatz  Jun 22, 2022 • 10:10:34pm

WaPo on the current heat dome in the SouthEast. (And in Minnesota and Wisconsin):

Records to topple in Southeast amid ‘dangerous’ heat near 105 degrees
In some places, it could feel like 110 to 115 degrees.

Expected highs versus current record:

Atlanta: Tying of record likely. The high is forecast to hit 98 degrees. The record is 98, set in 1964.
Tallahassee: The high is forecast to hit 102 degrees. The record is 103, set in 2009. But it’s forecast to be the city’s first time hitting 100 in more than 1,000 days.
Mobile, Ala.: New record likely. The high is forecast to hit 101 degrees. The record is 100, set in 2009.
Montgomery, Ala.: The high is forecast to hit 100 degrees. The record is 101, set in 2006.
Birmingham, Ala.: The high is forecast to hit 99 degrees. The record is 101, set in 1930.
Huntsville, Ala.: The high is forecast to hit 99 degrees. The record is 105, set in 1933.
Lexington, Ky.: The high is forecast to hit 96 degrees. The record is 99, set in 1988.
Tupelo, Miss.: The high is forecast to hit 100 degrees. The record is 103, set in 1936.
Jackson, Miss.: The high is forecast to hit 99 degrees. The record is 101, set in 1969.

Gift Link:
wapo.st

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BeachDem  Jun 22, 2022 • 10:15:02pm

re: #113 ckkatz

Thanks for the very helpful data point!

I’m hoping for something similar. But I don’t want to make any assumptions or plans until the results are in.

Tbh one major improvement that I am looking forward to, is just seeing in less than full sun. Right now my left eye vision is like looking through dark grey tinted cellophane.

You’ll be amazed at what colors actually look like. I sat on my patio and looked at the sky for days, going back and forth from the “new” eye to the one that hadn’t yet been cleared, and it was incredible. I had mine done a few months apart and had no problems at all. Having worn glasses/contacts from 3rd grade on, and having one eye that was considered legally blind without correction, it was a true revelation.

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retired cynic  Jun 22, 2022 • 10:16:24pm

re: #116 BeachDem

ditto!

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sagehen  Jun 22, 2022 • 10:20:29pm

re: #115 ckkatz

WaPo on the current heat dome in the SouthEast. (And in Minnesota and Wisconsin):

Records to topple in Southeast amid ‘dangerous’ heat near 105 degrees
In some places, it could feel like 110 to 115 degrees.

Expected highs versus current record:

Gift Link:
wapo.st

so maybe they’ll start to believe global warming is for real?

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ckkatz  Jun 22, 2022 • 10:24:46pm

Yes, l have been wearing eyeglasses since 1963. My identity is not associated with the concept of not wearing glasses. In the end, I opted for monofocal lenses rather than multifocal., (There are a some new multifocal lenses out recently that do not use ‘rings’ and thus have less of a problem with halos at night.)

After a lot of thought, having been badly nearsighted my whole life, I also decided to go with correction for far vision.

Interesting decisions with the need to understand myself better.

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ckkatz  Jun 22, 2022 • 10:32:02pm

re: #118 sagehen

so maybe they’ll start to believe global warming is for real?

Sadly, I think that we are still at the “Kick the can down the road” stage with a lot of rich folks who can make more money if we keep the economy as it is. A lot of them figure that they will be dead before things become a crisis. Then there are those super-rich who figure that they can just take their money and move elsewhere.

I live along the ridge line that is the highest point point in my flatland county. So I figure I may have a bit more time than many of the other county residents.

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retired cynic  Jun 22, 2022 • 10:32:35pm

re: #119 ckkatz

I have always had one bad eye, and the surgeon warned me that going for perfect vision in that eye might mean the surgery would fail. So I went with a lens that focused on reading and computers in that bad eye. When I had the good eye done, we went for good faraway vision, and I could not be happier. I could see well immediately, and just took care to use the drops and observe the cautions, and there were no problems. My husband had gone through it a decade earlier, and I managed his drops and tried to keep him under control so he wouldn’t do too much physically. Not easy! He had no problems either. Both of my parents had it, and both were trouble free. So just from my own experience (3rd grade heavy bifocals, aged 15 hard contact lenses), then surgery with corrective lenses, I would say it is one of the best things since sliced bread.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 22, 2022 • 10:39:38pm

re: #116 BeachDem

You’ll be amazed at what colors actually look like. I sat on my patio and looked at the sky for days, going back and forth from the “new” eye to the one that hadn’t yet been cleared, and it was incredible. I had mine done a few months apart and had no problems at all. Having worn glasses/contacts from 3rd grade on, and having one eye that was considered legally blind without correction, it was a true revelation.

You are so right about the colors! I had forgotten how different certain shades were. Degree of improvement in vision depends on the type of lens they insert. In my case,
the lens was adjusted so I didn’t need glasses when using my computer. I only wear them now when driving or watching a movie; before, without glasses or contacts, everything more than 5 feet away was blurry.

As to today’s wording..
4/6

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ckkatz  Jun 22, 2022 • 10:41:06pm

re: #121 retired cynic

In my admittedly small sample…

A lot of ladies that I know went for one eye corrected for near vision and the other eye corrected for far vision.

Most of the guys I know went for bifocal vision. (Both eyes corrected for either near or far.) I am opting for both eyes corrected for far.

Very glad to hear that you, your husband, and your parents all had no problems and excellent outcomes.

I am hoping for the same. If corrective eyeglasses are required for perfect vision, I will not be particularly upset.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 22, 2022 • 10:45:06pm

re: #123 ckkatz

In my admittedly small sample…

A lot of ladies that I know went for one eye corrected for near vision and the other eye corrected for far vision.

Most of the guys I know went for bifocal vision. (Both eyes corrected for either near or far.) I am opting for both eyes corrected for far.

Very glad to hear that you, your husband, and your parents all had no problems and excellent outcomes.

I am hoping for the same. If corrective eyeglasses are required for perfect vision, I will not be particularly upset.

My contacts were adjusted that way and I never adapted to it, which is why I didn’t elect that approach for the cataract surgery. I’m happy with the correction I have — where both eyes are adjusted so I can read and use my computer without glasses.

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ckkatz  Jun 22, 2022 • 10:49:41pm

A few more cyberwarfare articles:

Businessweek Feature
A Ragtag Band of Hackers Is Waging Cyberwar on Putin’s Supply Lines

In Belarus, forces opposed to President Alexander Lukashenko have been derailing Russia’s war against Ukraine.
By Ryan Gallagher
June 15, 2022 at 12:01 AM EDT
bloomberg.com

.

Anonymous Hacks Major Belarusian Government Websites
Several Government Sites in Belarus Taken Offline by Anonymous
news.bitcoin.com

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wrenchwench  Jun 22, 2022 • 10:51:56pm

re: #119 ckkatz

Yes, l have been wearing eyeglasses since 1963. My identity is not associated with the concept of not wearing glasses. In the end, I opted for monofocal lenses rather than multifocal., (There are a some new multifocal lenses out recently that do not use ‘rings’ and thus have less of a problem with halos at night.)

After a lot of thought, having been badly nearsighted my whole life, I also decided to go with correction for far vision.

Interesting decisions with the need to understand myself better.

I’ve been wearing glasses since 1966. I wore hard contacts for 10 years, and went back to glasses for a cross-country bike trip. They weren’t compatible with the bike trip because getting something in my eye required popping the lens out right away sometimes, and that’s just not practical on a bike ride. Plus the sanitary needs are not met while camping in weird places. My vision gradually changed for a year after quitting the hard lenses. Then I was in glasses for 35 years. Last July, I was switched to modern soft contacts to deal with a few vision problems from cranial nerve damage from when I was hit by a car 8 years ago. I got the one far/one near set up, and only then found out my older brother has those and so do a lot of people. I still reach to take off my glasses when I go to wash my face, or go to push them up my nose if I want to see something more clearly.

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ckkatz  Jun 22, 2022 • 10:55:33pm

re: #124 Hecuba’s daughter

My contacts were adjusted that way and I never adapted to it, which is why I didn’t elect that approach for the cataract surgery. I’m happy with the correction I have — where both eyes are adjusted so I can read and use my computer without glasses.

Yes, I spent several weeks thinking about whether to do near or far vision. In the end I opted for far vision. But I think that either would have been fine. Back when I was working I had a pair of single focus reading glasses set for computer distances. They seemed to work well.

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ckkatz  Jun 22, 2022 • 11:05:15pm

re: #126 wrenchwench

I’ve been wearing glasses since 1966. I wore hard contacts for 10 years, and went back to glasses for a cross-country bike trip. They weren’t compatible with the bike trip because getting something in my eye required popping the lens out right away sometimes, and that’s just not practical on a bike ride. Plus the sanitary needs are not met while camping in weird places. My vision gradually changed for a year after quitting the hard lenses. Then I was in glasses for 35 years. Last July, I was switched to modern soft contacts to deal with a few vision problems from cranial nerve damage from when I was hit by a car 8 years ago. I got the one far/one near set up, and only then found out my older brother has those and so do a lot of people. I still reach to take off my glasses when I go to wash my face, or go to push them up my nose if I want to see something more clearly.

I do think that habits with glasses (such as reaching to adjust them) are a universal and shared experience.

So sorry to hear about you getting hit by a car and suffering injury. About 15 years ago a lady I was dating wanted to get into bike riding. So I got a bike. Shortly thereafter she found a love interest that fit her better. (Both really nice folks. I wish them well.)

Shortly after that, I decided that trying to ride a bicycle in the Washington DC metro area had more risks than I wanted to take on. (Like the sweet little old lady who stood on one side of the bike path while she let her leashed puppies wander over to the other side.)

That bicycle is currently gathering dust in my garage.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 22, 2022 • 11:07:27pm

From almost fifty years ago, this episode of All In The Family (free on Freevee) touches on quite topical issues today…. gun control:

amazon.com

Current social issues are not new. Not new at all.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 22, 2022 • 11:07:59pm

re: #129 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s episode 1 of season 3.

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ckkatz  Jun 22, 2022 • 11:08:50pm

Well, G’nite fellow lizards!

Off to bed with me…

And now for the bad Dad joke of the evening, as stipulated by Local, State and Federal ordinances. (Or, maybe none of the above…):

I was walking past a farm and saw a sign said: “Duck, eggs”.

I thought: “That’s an unnecessary comma” and then it hit me.

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ckkatz  Jun 22, 2022 • 11:11:22pm

One more Dad joke in honor of our LGF Marathon Man:

I recently ran an ultra marathon in northern Sweden…

I realized that I had gone way off course as soon as I crossed the Finnish line.

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A Cranky One  Jun 22, 2022 • 11:19:26pm

It’s about time I got some respect.

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wrenchwench  Jun 22, 2022 • 11:26:16pm

re: #128 ckkatz

I do think that habits with glasses (such as reaching to adjust them) are a universal and shared experience.

So sorry to hear about you getting hit by a car and suffering injury. About 15 years ago a lady I was dating wanted to get into bike riding. So I got a bike. Shortly thereafter she found a love interest that fit her better. (Both really nice folks. I wish them well.)

Shortly after that, I decided that trying to ride a bicycle in the Washington DC metro area had more risks than I wanted to take on. (Like the sweet little old lady who stood on one side of the bike path while she let her leashed puppies wander over to the other side.)

That bicycle is currently gathering dust in my garage.

I was a pedestrian when I was hit. That said, I certainly understand a reluctance to share pavement with giant hunks of machinery under uncertain control. When we moved from NM to OR 2 years ago, I thought the drivers were much nicer here. That’s worn off, mostly. One of the largest threats to cyclists here are the crazy cyclists.

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Captain Ron  Jun 22, 2022 • 11:33:24pm

re: #132 ckkatz

One more Dad joke in honor of our LGF Marathon Man:

I recently ran an ultra marathon in northern Sweden…

I realized that I had gone way off course as soon as I crossed the Finnish line.

Yep, that earned a “get the fuck out of here” from my wife.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 12:18:44am

re: #129 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

From almost fifty years ago, this episode of All In The Family (free on Freevee) touches on quite topical issues today…. gun control:

amazon.com

Current social issues are not new. Not new at all.

There was a Doonesbury from the 1980’s that featured Uncle Duke testifying on behalf of the NRA in Congress. When asked about how nearly half of all shootings are the result of domestic violence, he replied:
“If your wife was shooting at you, wouldn’t you want to be in a position to return fire?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 12:19:49am

re: #135 Captain Ron

Yep, that earned a “get the fuck out of here” from my wife.

The Swedish girl wouldn’t but the Norwegian would…

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Captain Ron  Jun 23, 2022 • 12:22:55am
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mmmirele  Jun 23, 2022 • 12:40:17am

Dude listed his achievements, then wrote a long thread laying out what he did to get to that point. He did NOT mention his wife in the thread at all. He is rightly being dragged.

All I could think of was the old (1970s) satirical essay “I Want A Wife” by Judy Brady Syfers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 12:44:34am

re: #139 mmmirele

Dude listed his achievements, then wrote a long thread laying out what he did to get to that point. He did NOT mention his wife in the thread at all. He is rightly being dragged.

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All I could think of was the old (1970s) satirical essay “I Want A Wife” by Judy Brady Syfers.

“while having six kids” and no mention of the wife? that is some weapons-grade male entitlement

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 12:59:24am

re: #134 wrenchwench

I was a pedestrian when I was hit. That said, I certainly understand a reluctance to share pavement with giant hunks of machinery under uncertain control. When we moved from NM to OR 2 years ago, I thought the drivers were much nicer here. That’s worn off, mostly. One of the largest threats to cyclists here are the crazy cyclists.

The Rhine embankments have become a much more dangerous and hectic place due to the proliferation of e-bikes lately.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 23, 2022 • 2:25:44am

Even an extra hour early in the morning, I still have some amount of processing power.

Wordle 369 4/6

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Ming5000  Jun 23, 2022 • 3:08:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 3:10:18am

re: #143 Ming5000

especially any church that engages in clearly partisan political activity

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 23, 2022 • 3:13:53am

So the party of “protect the kids” is looking to starve the kids, all because President Biden asked them politely not to starve LGBTQ kids:

politico.com

A Republican senator is thinking about blowing up a bipartisan deal to extend school meals funding because of a Biden administration policy banning discrimination against LGBTQ students who participate in lunch programs that receive the money.

After the $3 billion deal to extend the pandemic-era program was unveiled Tuesday, Sen. Roger Marshall (R-Kan.) said in an interview he is “contemplating” objecting to the measure because of new guidance from the Agriculture Department banning LGBTQ discrimination in any program that receives federal nutrition money, which includes most school lunch programs.

Marshall was among a handful of Senate Republicans who sent a letter to the Government Accountability Office last week objecting to the USDA nutrition guidance, which has also prompted a backlash from conservative media and key national Republicans. Likely 2024 presidential contender and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis argued the Biden administration was “trying to deny school lunch programs for states that don’t do transgender ideology in the schools.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 3:15:23am

re: #145 Dopamine Fish

So the party of “protect the kids” is looking to starve the kids, all because President Biden asked them politely not to starve LGBTQ kids:

politico.com

“We had to starve them to protect them!”

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Dangerman  Jun 23, 2022 • 3:30:33am
Former President Donald Trump “has tuned into every hearing and has grown increasingly irate — to “‘the point of about to scream at the TV,’ according to a close adviser — with what he views as the lack of defense by his Capitol Hill allies,” the Washington Post reports.

“About to”? Nah…
And

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TarHellion  Jun 23, 2022 • 3:32:42am

Wordle 369 4/6

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Still trapped in the 4/6 loop. Brain farted on the second guess. All the best to everyone!

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Dave In Austin  Jun 23, 2022 • 3:42:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 4:01:51am

re: #149 Dave In Austin

Germany tried a gas tax holiday, prices went down a bit for a week and then crept back up to near previous levels.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 23, 2022 • 4:03:14am

re: #118 sagehen

so maybe they’ll start to believe global warming is for real?

HAARP

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 23, 2022 • 4:05:07am

re: #149 Dave In Austin

I’m sure glad I got on the EV bandwagon in 2018. It’s just that now it’s the wrong EV and the CEO is a massive prick.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 4:16:47am

The US fossil fuels industry is a cartel that divvies up the market and sets prices accordingly

market mechanisms play a role but only the most deceptive (or self-deceptive) people believe it has anything to do with the Free Market

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 23, 2022 • 4:18:36am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany tried a gas tax holiday, prices went down a bit for a week and then crept back up to near previous levels.

That’s what will happen here. And then when the tax kicks in again in Sept. it will be political kryptonite for Biden and Dems.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 4:36:18am

re: #154 Barefoot Grin

That’s what will happen here. And then when the tax kicks in again in Sept. it will be political kryptonite for Biden and Dems.

For rural people with low incomes, gas and groceries are a much bigger share of the budget.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 23, 2022 • 4:47:34am

re: #155 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Here in GA our governor got rid of the gas tax temporarily and prices still went up beyond the tax discount. Oil companies have been taking taxpayer dollars forever, not spending their own money on inevitable cleanups, buying off politicians so they don’t have to be responsible, making fortunes many times over and people STILL blame presidents for that. That is a Congress problem and a prime example of why KStreet and lobbyists need to be done completely the hell away with. Oil isn’t the only industry guilty of this(defense contractors, all kinds of insurance companies, etc), but it does have the biggest direct impact on many other things. If Reagan and the GOP of his time had been pro alternative energy sources we could be a lot better off now.

It’s depressing as fuck to keep watching this happen over and over with no lessons learned

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Dave In Austin  Jun 23, 2022 • 4:57:15am

Refining closures……
reuters.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 23, 2022 • 5:06:48am

re: #157 Dave In Austin

Soon we will hear MAGAservatives demanding the government take control of these refineries.

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2022 • 5:12:11am

re: #65 Charles Johnson

What Trump and the GOP did was not voter fraud*.

It was election fraud.

They interfered with the certification. They interfered with the counts. They broke multiple state and federal election laws in the process by trying to force, cajole, or carry out schemes to switch elector slates, invalidate the votes, etc. Trump engaged in a crime spree just to remain in office knowing full well that he lost the election. All those around him knew he lost the election, but tried to keep him in power anyways. Those who knew of these criminal schemes and failed to report them should be prosecuted just as surely as those who actively participated.

Burn the GOP to the ground.

* voter fraud/election fraud definitions broadly follow:
Election fraud can involve unlawful acts by election officials or acts done by others that threaten the integrity (reliability and trustworthiness) of the election process. Voter fraud is unlawful voting by an individual and can include voting twice, voting by impersonating someone else, votes with a fraudulent ballot, etc.

Trumpworld had precisely zero evidence of voter fraud, let alone systematic voter fraud sufficient to invalidate any election anywhere. Trumpworld engaged in election fraud to try and invalidate votes and substitute a bunch of bogus electors for the official ones as states certified their elections in favor of Biden.

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2022 • 5:16:25am

re: #147 Dangerman

Yeah, I’m surprised that Trumpworld doesn’t have a bunch of TVs in storage just for this very case - where Trump throws something through the TV (more likely bounces off it, but damages the screen enough to require replacements).

Trump wants to be heard and reply to all the evidence showing that he engaged in felony conduct?

Testify under oath and tell the world what you did. We have all the evidence, including audio, video, and written evidence of your criminal conduct. But we all know Trump knows he’s guilty as fuck, but wants to create a circus.

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Ming5000  Jun 23, 2022 • 5:21:05am

Some good news!

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2022 • 5:22:20am

re: #156 A Mom Anon

NY suspended their gas taxes.

Generally, gas taxes are regressive and hit lowest income persons hardest, but they also generate significant revenues for the state. Losing those revenues is a big hit to some state budgets.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 23, 2022 • 5:26:30am

re: #152 GlutenFreeJesus

I’m sure glad I got on the EV bandwagon in 2018. It’s just that now it’s the wrong EV and the CEO is a massive prick.

Yeah, my Model 3 has been great since I bought it in 2018, but this is the only Tesla I’ll ever buy. It will likely be a college car for one of my kids 5 years from now. I already have a Rivian SUV on order now delays have pushed delivery from 2023 into 2024 I think. Polestar is another making intriguing EV’s and about to announce a few more models coming out in the next few years but much lower price point models are about to hit the market like a hammer from virtually all carmakers.

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Dangerman  Jun 23, 2022 • 5:27:25am

re: #159 lawhawk

What Trump and the GOP did was not voter fraud*.

It was election fraud.

They interfered with the certification. They interfered with the counts. They broke multiple state and federal election laws in the process by trying to force, cajole, or carry out schemes to switch elector slates, invalidate the votes, etc. Trump engaged in a crime spree just to remain in office knowing full well that he lost the election. All those around him knew he lost the election, but tried to keep him in power anyways. Those who knew of these criminal schemes and failed to report them should be prosecuted just as surely as those who actively participated.

Burn the GOP to the ground.

* voter fraud/election fraud definitions broadly follow:
Election fraud can involve unlawful acts by election officials or acts done by others that threaten the integrity (reliability and trustworthiness) of the election process. Voter fraud is unlawful voting by an individual and can include voting twice, voting by impersonating someone else, votes with a fraudulent ballot, etc.

Trumpworld had precisely zero evidence of voter fraud, let alone systematic voter fraud sufficient to invalidate any election anywhere. Trumpworld engaged in election fraud to try and invalidate votes and substitute a bunch of bogus electors for the official ones as states certified their elections in favor of Biden.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 23, 2022 • 5:29:24am

re: #163 Florida Panhandler

The VW Buzz is coming soon. I just wish it had more power and AWD. I would seriously consider it.

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Dangerman  Jun 23, 2022 • 5:31:24am

re: #160 lawhawk

Yeah, I’m surprised that Trumpworld doesn’t have a bunch of TVs in storage just for this very case - where Trump throws something through the TV (more likely bounces off it, but damages the screen enough to require replacements).

Trump wants to be heard and reply to all the evidence showing that he engaged in felony conduct?

Testify under oath and tell the world what you did. We have all the evidence, including audio, video, and written evidence of your criminal conduct. But we all know Trump knows he’s guilty as fuck, but wants to create a circus.

what he wants is all the cameras trained on him while he rants and rants

he doesnt want to address specifics - he cant.
he wants to spout meaningless, broad, sweeping generalizations
‘everybody knows’
‘rigged’ - whatever the eff that even means
‘it’s obvious’
‘lots of’
‘people saw it’

he certainly doesnt mean he wants to sit as a witness - under oath or not - and actually address and answer questions asked by other people

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2022 • 5:32:51am

re: #165 GlutenFreeJesus

Subaru is coming with its EV, and I’ll give it a good look as I love our current Outback. The Mrs has a thing for Mustangs, and with the E-stang, we might give it a good look too.

Every automaker is coming hard with EVs, and most of them have better quality control than Tesla. So, while Tesla tech and performance is quite impressive, the reliability of same is not. Other companies will take advantage of existing supply chains and product lines to build their EVs for less, which means Tesla’s hold on the EV market will slip significantly in coming years.

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LadyBehir  Jun 23, 2022 • 5:33:11am

re: #165 GlutenFreeJesus

VW missed the marketing opportunity to keep the Beetle but as an EV and call it the Lightning Bug.

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Ming5000  Jun 23, 2022 • 5:33:48am

re: #168 LadyBehir

That’s a good idea!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 5:38:34am

re: #156 A Mom Anon

It’s depressing as fuck to keep watching this happen over and over with no lessons learned

We had it rubbed in our faces in 1973 and did nothing about it then

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Ming5000  Jun 23, 2022 • 5:48:49am

Ukrainians give a war update.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 23, 2022 • 5:49:55am

A domestic arms race is exactly what the far right wing has wanted all along as part of their theory about eventually “winning” a race war.

yahoo.com

Well, here comes the left feeling they too have to arm up in response to right wing wackos. It still remains the police for the most part are on the side of the white right wing terrorists so look for sudden enforcement of gun laws wherever leftist protests or gun marches/parades occur.

A black power public gun display? Fox News will eat this up like red meat.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 5:52:00am

re: #172 Florida Panhandler

A black power public gun display? Fox News will eat this up like red meat.

Remember how Ted Cruz is creaming his dad jeans over the thought of violent Roe v Wade protests

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jeffreyw  Jun 23, 2022 • 5:58:43am

Picnicking Possum

Good morning!

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:01:01am

The elusive wordle salad

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darthstar  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:01:10am

This is cool. I hope Ukraine has acquired a shit ton of Russian drones if this is the case.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:02:59am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember how Ted Cruz is creaming his dad jeans over the thought of violent Roe v Wade protests

Ted pretty much guaranteed that there will at the very least be attempts at provocation, especially if there are counter-protesters that can be physically attacked by infiltrators.

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:03:25am

A few years ago, HBO did a miniseries on Chernobyl, and it was exceptionally well done. It condensed and compressed the timelines and recast some of the persons involved for dramatic effect. But the antagonist was and remains the nuclear reactor that blew up because of design defects unknown to any of the operators, and the operators who disregarded existing security protocols that allowed the reactor to enter an unstable condition from which it could not be safely recovered.

Yesterday, HBO released a documentary based on newly identified footage from the then Soviet Union that shows just how much the Soviets covered up the disaster, and that so many of those who lived in the vicinity didn’t know the scope of the disaster, and the liquidators were likewise lied to about their health and safety.

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Teukka  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:03:43am

re: #176 darthstar

This is cool. I hope Ukraine has acquired a shit ton of Russian drones if this is the case.

Ehmahgerd… The paranoia that’s gonna end in… Both scary and entertaining…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:06:43am

re: #177 Barefoot Grin

Ted pretty much guaranteed that there will at the very least be attempts at provocation, especially if there are counter-protesters that can be physically attacked by infiltrators.

Look how successfully Antifa infiltrated the January 6th protestors. They played the role consistently, starting years in advance, opening social media accounts and living the lifestyle of die-hard Trump supporters.

Even now many of them are serving prison sentences in the names of the cause of false-flag infiltration.

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darthstar  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:13:57am

Whoot! Time to start cutting off logistics at the source.

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Ming5000  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:17:30am

re: #181 darthstar

Tried to find what munitions UA has for them (the HIMARS). Curious about the range. It might still be secret

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darthstar  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:30:33am

re: #182 Ming5000

Tried to find what munitions UA has for them (the HIMARS). Curious about the range. It might still be secret

I read somewhere in the 70km range (46 miles or so) from the US, but the UK also said they’d send some, and those may be the longer range (120+km)…serious game changers, both of those. And let’s not forget, these aren’t just getting lobbed over the fence. They’re precision munitions.

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darthstar  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:32:36am

re: #182 Ming5000

Tried to find what munitions UA has for them (the HIMARS). Curious about the range. It might still be secret

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Dangerman  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:34:07am

Books by Former Trump Aides Bomb

Meadows tell-all, 21,569 books…
Deborah Birx, fewer than 6,000 copies
Dr. Scott Atlas’ book sold 27,013 copies
Dr. Ben Carson’s book sold 21,786 copies
Stephanie Grisham sold 38,249 books
Kellyanne Conway has sold 42,273
Mark Esper sold 20,900 books.
Barr sold 64,103 books.
Navarro’ has done “the best”, 80,218 copies of his book so far.

Anyone of them probably would have ended up better off blowing the whistle way back when

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Ming5000  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:35:18am

re: #184 darthstar

This confirms the 70km range, plus, I didn’t realize Snake Island was so close to the mainland.

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Dangerman  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:38:36am

It is frankly inconceivable that these senators — who by acts of commission or omission enabled Trump’s illegal and antidemocratic actions — should be presenting themselves for reelection. It’s even more shocking that they have yet to be interrogated about their conduct.

The mainstream media might pat themselves on the backs for their newfound interest in democracy, but their failure to hold accountable those who had a hand in nearly overthrowing our election suggests they have much to learn.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:40:14am

re: #185 Dangerman

Books by Former Trump Aides Bomb


Any one of them probably would have ended up better off blowing the whistle way back when

Just like all the other 2016 candidates who held back their criticisms and waited for Trump to self-destruct…

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:42:11am

Thread. Despite the bait in the initial Tweet, read it if you’re able to access the bird app.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:44:23am

re: #185 Dangerman

Books by Former Trump Aides Bomb

Meadows tell-all, 21,569 books…
Deborah Birx, fewer than 6,000 copies
Dr. Scott Atlas’ book sold 27,013 copies
Dr. Ben Carson’s book sold 21,786 copies
Stephanie Grisham sold 38,249 books
Kellyanne Conway has sold 42,273
Mark Esper sold 20,900 books.
Barr sold 64,103 books.
Navarro’ has done “the best”, 80,218 copies of his book so far.

Anyone of them probably would have ended up better off blowing the whistle way back when

Seems the RNC and assorted PACs aren’t bulk buying these books to get them on the best seller list. Another sign of Trump’s continued power in the Repbulican party. Frantly, I’m surprised that Trump hasn’t thrown together a ghost-written tome that these orgs can buy and include in gift bags at various right-wing shindigs. A book on the best seller list might sooth Trump’s gargantuan ego for a minute or two.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:45:49am
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Dangerman  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:46:42am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:55:49am

re: #192 Dangerman

Europe has come to realize that it is time to rethink its entire energy strategy, to further expand public transit and to move up renewables by a decade even if it means keeping coal and nuclear around as a temporary fix.

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Dangerman  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:56:34am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:57:02am

re: #190 Teddy’s Person

Seems the RNC and assorted PACs aren’t bulk buying these books to get them on the best seller list. Another sign of Trump’s continued power in the Repbulican party. Frantly, I’m surprised that Trump hasn’t thrown together a ghost-written tome that these orgs can buy and include in gift bags at various right-wing shindigs. A book on the best seller list might sooth Trump’s gargantuan ego for a minute or two.

The authors saw the enormous numbers of books sold by other Republicans and assumed it was a gravy train. But Trump has his hand firmly on the gravy boat.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:57:51am
It’s just the most recent of the fast-accumulating incidents in which the American right’s anti-LGBTQ hysteria is whipping up violence: A Whidbey Island, Washington, man who had been making threatening remarks to his gay neighbors, and posting comments on social media talking about his desire to kill gays and to attack a nearby Pride parade with his semiautomatic rifle, was arrested on Friday by Oak Harbor police on a $1 million warrant, the day before the event.

It shortly emerged that not only was 27-year-old Tyler Dinsmoor a Navy veteran who had settled into the community after serving at Whidbey Island Naval Station, but is a devoted member of a western Washington church where the pastor, Aaron Thompson, regularly demands the death penalty be levied and enforced against the LGBTQ community.

Oak Harbor police and prosecutors said they arrested Dinsmoor less for his threats against the Pride event—which they had deemed too vague to constitute a “direct threat”—but chose to charge him with malicious harassment (Washington’s version of a hate crime) for the threats he directed against his neighbors.

The charging documents indicated the basis of the arrest was remarks he directed against the neighbor on June 14. She had been returning home from the grocery store with her wife when he yelled at them: “It used to be legal to kill gay people!”
The woman, who lived next to a rental property that Dinsmoor owns, said she said nothing in response, but instead just went inside with her wife and told her children not to go outside. A few days later, she said that Dinsmoor returned to the neighboring property, this time carrying a handgun on his hip.

Prosecutors said those remarks placed “that group of persons in reasonable fear of harm,” and were motivated by bias against their sexual orientation, both of which violate Washington’s malicious-harassment law.

But when police went to arrest Dinsmoor on Friday, they descended in full force: With two federal agencies, multiple armored vehicles, a negotiating team and a police helicopter. Oak Harbor Police Chief Kevin Dresker told the Whidbey Island News-Times that the massive show of law enforcement was primarily due to the nature of Dinsmoor’s social-media output—as well as the fact they knew he was well-armed.

dailykos.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 23, 2022 • 6:58:02am

re: #159 lawhawk

…..

Trumpworld had precisely zero evidence of voter fraud, let alone systematic voter fraud sufficient to invalidate any election anywhere. Trumpworld engaged in election fraud to try and invalidate votes and substitute a bunch of bogus electors for the official ones as states certified their elections in favor of Biden.

A reminder: Trump actively promoted voter fraud by urging those who voted by mail to vote again in person.

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Dangerman  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:02:36am

re: #197 Hecuba’s daughter

A reminder: Trump actively promoted voter fraud by urging those who voted by mail to vote again in person.

the talk is Tfg should be prosecuted.
for x, whatever x is.

He did so much shit he should be prosecuted for a,b,c,d,e,f,g,….x,y,z,aa,ab,ac…..

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:03:25am
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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:06:17am

re: #199 Belafon

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:08:54am

re: #194 Dangerman

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I think the two movements, conservates and conspiracy derpsters, officially merged when the failed former President praised Alex Jones. They’re Conspiratives now.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:11:54am

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:13:57am

re: #174 jeffreyw

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:16:08am

The issue was racist stereotypes.

“I’ve taken the last few days to step back and listen, and I acknowledge your criticism for my recent issue of What If…Miles Morales was Thor. While I’ve lived a different experience through my own Jewish and Mexican background, I still know inauthenticity hurts, and I’m sorry this failed on that front. I’ve appreciated hearing and learning from my Black and Puerto Rican comics peers and hope to use this moment to help promote better authenticity. I’m also going to donate what Marvel paid me to the Brooklyn Book Bodega, which works to build literacy and get more books to kids in NYC,” he wrote.

The Author of Marvel’s Problematic Miles Morales What If…? Comic Has Apologized (Gizmodo)

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:19:33am

re: #166 Dangerman

what he wants is all the cameras trained on him while he rants and rants

he doesnt want to address specifics - he cant.
he wants to spout meaningless, broad, sweeping generalizations
‘everybody knows’
‘rigged’ - whatever the eff that even means
‘it’s obvious’
‘lots of’
‘people saw it’

he certainly doesnt mean he wants to sit as a witness - under oath or not - and actually address and answer questions asked by other people

His call with Raffensperger is an example of how he would testify. No first hand evidence, just assertions, and claiming it was others who provided him this information.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:19:45am

race and comics

meanwhile america’s racial politics are truly mickey mouse

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:22:54am

re: #189 Dopamine Fish

Thread. Despite the bait in the initial Tweet, read it if you’re able to access the bird app.

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Funny stuff. Could also add the stereotype “they will be fitted for Birkenstocks and taken to a farmers market.”

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:25:43am

re: #142 Dopamine Fish

Even an extra hour early in the morning, I still have some amount of processing power.

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4/6 for me also

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:26:11am

re: #185 Dangerman

Books by Former Trump Aides Bomb

Meadows tell-all, 21,569 books…
Deborah Birx, fewer than 6,000 copies
Dr. Scott Atlas’ book sold 27,013 copies
Dr. Ben Carson’s book sold 21,786 copies
Stephanie Grisham sold 38,249 books
Kellyanne Conway has sold 42,273
Mark Esper sold 20,900 books.
Barr sold 64,103 books.
Navarro’ has done “the best”, 80,218 copies of his book so far.

Anyone of them probably would have ended up better off blowing the whistle way back when

Conservatives won’t buy them because they think all these people are deep state traitors and RINOs. Liberals won’t buy them because they think all these people are assholes who valued their book deals more than national security.

So there’s not much of a market for all this crap, despite publishers apparent belief to the contrary.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:27:58am

re: #209 Eclectic Cyborg

Conservatives won’t buy them because they think all these people are deep state traitors and RINOs. Liberals won’t buy them because they think all these people are assholes who valued their book deals more than national security.

So there’s not much of a market for all this crap, despite publishers apparent belief to the contrary.

No one was buying conservative books before, except for the RNC.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:29:46am

My morning needed POTUS hanging out with babies.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:31:40am
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Dopamine Fish  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:32:53am

re: #212 Eclectic Cyborg

This is a nakedly partisan decision. It doesn’t have anything to do with anything BUT politics.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:33:38am

The tools to do this already existed elsewhere, but this may enable idiots to create plausible fakes with zero technical knowledge.

This is pretty creepy:

Prasad noted during the demonstration that the feature could be used to help memorialize a deceased family member. “So many of us have lost someone we love” during the COVID-19 pandemic, he said—a reality that has pushed the company to make artificial companion-like conversation a key focus of the company.

Amazon’s plan for Alexa to mimic anyone’s voice raises fears it will be used for deepfakes and scams (Fortune)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:35:18am

re: #214 Crush White Nationalism

That could cause all kinds of problems, especially with over the phone authentication.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:37:11am

SCOTUS rules there is a constitutional right to carry concealed firearms in public.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:39:19am

re: #216 No Malarkey!

SCOTUS rules there is a constitutional right to carry concealed firearms in public.

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Dangerman  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:41:33am
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Dopamine Fish  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:41:40am

Oh, and they’re on an absolute tear today - a tearing up of individual rights we long thought safe, anyway:

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Dangerman  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:42:36am

re: #209 Eclectic Cyborg

Conservatives won’t buy them because they think all these people are deep state traitors and RINOs. Liberals won’t buy them because they think all these people are assholes who valued their book deals more than national security.

So there’s not much of a market for all this crap, despite publishers apparent belief to the contrary.

YouTube

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:43:15am

re: #216 No Malarkey!

SCOTUS rules there is a constitutional right to carry concealed firearms in public.

Wait…does this mean anyone in the country can now carry concealed without a permit?

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:43:25am

The building owners have had enough of Lauren Boebert.

Is It Last Call for Lauren Boebert’s Gun Restaurant? (The Daily Beast)

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Dangerman  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:44:31am

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:45:14am

re: #221 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait…does this mean anyone in the country can now carry concealed without a permit?

Essentially correct. The Supreme Court has just ruled that the Second Amendment means that any citizen can carry a gun in public as long as it is for the purpose of self-defense. Which we can never PROVE, and the definition of “self-defense” is so broad that we have the “stand your ground” doctrine in hellhole states like Florida, which essentially mean that anyone can shoot anyone at any time, for any reason, and have a plausible legal defense that must be litigated.

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darthstar  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:45:24am
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:45:29am

Gonna be some wild shoot-ups on the NYC subway.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:45:56am

re: #220 Dangerman

I’d only seen his pitch meetings before, and had no idea that he was doing other things.

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Dangerman  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:46:01am
Tom Nichols: “Our elections work because they are run by ordinary citizens at the state and local level who either were elected or volunteered to help administer the vote as a matter of civic duty. This is a wondrous thing: community volunteers overseeing the vote and counting the results. I love voting in person for just this reason; having seen people in other nations too terrified even to talk about politics, it always filled me with quiet joy to have my fellow townspeople hand me a ballot and protect my privacy while I voted.”

“Trump and his people, however, have made it clear that democracy is a meaningless word. They want what they want and they will hurt anyone who gets in their way. Their goal is to make public service a hazardous undertaking, to create an environment in which people working on elections—their fellow American citizens—fear for their lives if they don’t cough up the results they want.”

the atlantic

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No Malarkey!  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:46:39am

re: #219 Dopamine Fish

Oh, and they’re on an absolute tear today - a tearing up of individual rights we long thought safe, anyway:

However at least for now evidence obtained in violation of Miranda can still be excluded at trial.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:46:59am

re: #217 Dopamine Fish

Seems like a good time for everyone to show up at the Capitol with a gun. Concealed, of course.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:47:41am

re: #221 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait…does this mean anyone in the country can now carry concealed without a permit?

No, it means that NY’s requirement that you show a special need for a permit is unconstitutional.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:49:06am

re: #229 No Malarkey!

However at least for now evidence obtained in violation of Miranda can still be excluded at trial.

There’s the rub: for now. It’s clear that this Court is determined to obliterate as many individual protections against government overreach as they can. It’s the Ayn Rand Court, so I guess we get to see how hardcore libertarianism plays out in real life. My guess is, not very well at all.

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darthstar  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:49:38am

re: #185 Dangerman

Books by Former Trump Aides Bomb

Anyone of them probably would have ended up better off blowing the whistle way back when

It’s not the sales, it’s the advances from the publishers that matter.

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:50:06am

re: #224 Dopamine Fish

“I thought the guy was just disguised as a cop.”

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:53:35am
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:54:37am

re: #233 darthstar

It’s not the sales, it’s the advances from the publishers that matter.

It infuriates me that some of those—as well as the Bill O’Reilly “Killing” series—end up at our local library. Gotta serve everyone, but still….

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No Malarkey!  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:56:20am

We can start the countdown in hours until Gilead. Under his eye.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:56:45am

re: #235 jaunte

Invalidate all laws, they don’t stop crime.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:57:12am

Today is a shit show. Tomorrow will be even worse.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:58:54am

re: #237 No Malarkey!

If the man who raped her agreed….

We will see this too. I think this is outside Gilead — didn’t they execute rapists?

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2022 • 7:59:58am

re: #240 Colère Tueur de Lapin

If the man who raped her agreed….

We will see this too. I think this is outside Gilead — didn’t they execute rapists?

if so, it’s Atwood’s biggest flaw, assuming Christians would follow the Bible.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:01:07am

re: #240 Colère Tueur de Lapin

If the man who raped her agreed….

We will see this too. I think this is outside Gilead — didn’t they execute rapists?

Rape was the official method of reproduction in Gilead.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:01:26am

re: #241 Belafon

if so, it’s Atwood’s biggest flaw, assuming Christians would follow the Bible.

Good point. I could be misremembering.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:03:35am

re: #240 Colère Tueur de Lapin

If the man who raped her agreed….

We will see this too. I think this is outside Gilead — didn’t they execute rapists?

Only if you’re the wrong kind of rapist. The men who raped the Handmadiens were pillars of commuity.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:03:39am

re: #242 No Malarkey!

Rape was the official method of reproduction in Gilead.

I meant outside of the commanders - should have been more specific. Which may be a nit, but since the handmaids were the property… Yeah, the logic is fucked up.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:08:01am

re: #245 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I meant outside of the commanders - should have been more specific. Which may be a nit, but since the handmaids were the property… Yeah, the logic is fucked up.

Correct, consent of the person being raped is irrelevant; in Gilead it would be a violation of the Commanders’ property rights. And in the U.S. the position of the GOP is that rape is just another method by which God gifts women with babies.

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:09:17am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:11:37am

re: #241 Belafon

if so, it’s Atwood’s biggest flaw, assuming Christians would follow the Bible.

Atwood’s second biggest flaw, in The Testaments, (in spoiler for those who haven’t read it)

Assuming that people would believe “the truth” if Mayday managed to smuggle it out of Gilead on a microchip.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:11:49am
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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:13:28am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:15:09am

16th Century witchcraft test, coming soon to a US state near you, thanks to SCOTUS.

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:15:09am

re: #250 jaunte

Wait a fucking minute. The same right wing lunatics who claim we shouldn’t be relying on foreign law are…. relying on foreign law to gut a reasonable gun law restriction on concealed carry laws.

Got it.

The fucking fascists don’t care about the rule of law so much as creating a nihilistic dystopian future where they’re the ones with power and everyone else is fucked.

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:17:03am

re: #252 lawhawk

Making feudalism great again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:17:11am

re: #228 Dangerman

I have said before that our voting system, based as it is on mutual trust and goodwill with a minimum of supervision, is not robust enough to stand up to this sort of all-out assault on it.

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:17:20am
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No Malarkey!  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:18:10am

re: #251 The Pie Overlord!

16th Century witchcraft test, coming soon to a US state near you, thanks to SCOTUS.

In Alito’s leaked anti-abortion opinion, he literally cited a 16th century witchhunter as precedent.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:18:24am

re: #242 No Malarkey!

Rape was the official method of reproduction in Gilead.

legal rape, I can see them getting upset about men raping without a permit.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:19:56am

re: #257 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

legal rape, I can see them getting upset about men raping without a permit.

Violates the Commanders’ property rights!

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:22:14am
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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:26:48am

This same Court has members of Congress clamoring for an exclusion zone where you can’t protest around those justices’ homes. That would also mean you can’t concealed carry there either.

This is insane, and undermines public health and safety for all the elite few.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:26:52am

re: #259 jaunte

The Right considers that a feature, not a bug.

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:27:11am

My current status:

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:27:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:28:13am

re: #216 No Malarkey!

SCOTUS rules there is a constitutional right to carry concealed firearms in public.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:29:03am

re: #263 jaunte

Correct. Tamir Rice was murdered by a cop for having a toy gun in an open carry state.

p.s. wrong black child murdered by a gunman in my original post.

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BeachDem  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:31:35am

re: #265 No Malarkey!

Correct. Trayvon Martin was murdered by a copvigilante for having a toy gunbag of skittles in an open carry state.

I believe you’re thinking of Tamir Rice

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:31:44am

re: #265 No Malarkey!

Correct. Trayvon Martin was murdered by a cop for having a toy gun in an open carry state.

That was Tamir Rice. Trayvon Martin was murdered by George Zimmerman for having a bag of skittles.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:32:38am

re: #267 Eclectic Cyborg

That was Tamir Rice. Trayvon Martin was murdered by George Zimmerman for having a bag of skittles.

Yes, I corrected my original post to reflect the correct unarmed black child murdered by a gunman.

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:34:34am

The January 6 Capitol invasion was supposed to create chaos, a battle between “patriots” and Antifa that could be used by Trump as an excuse to impose martial law and crack down on his political enemies. Today’s SCOTUS gun decision is more of the same. The six RW political operatives on the court want more chaos and death to excuse more severe restrictions on rights.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:41:05am

re: #269 jaunte

The January 6 Capitol invasion was supposed to create chaos, a battle between “patriots” and Antifa that could be used by Trump as an excuse to impose martial law and crack down on his political enemies. Today’s SCOTUS gun decision is more of the same. The six RW political operatives on the court want more chaos and death to excuse more severe restrictions on rights.

It’s entirely possible that there will be a gun battle on the streets of D.C. in 2025.

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:42:58am
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Dangerman  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:45:59am

re: #254 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have said before that our voting system, based as it is on mutual trust and goodwill with a minimum of supervision, is not robust enough to stand up to this sort of all-out assault on it.

no one ever thought to test it to this degree before

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:47:11am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:50:45am

re: #271 lawhawk

Banning abortions will not stop abortions so they shouldn’t be banned. Just using his reasoning here.

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:52:51am
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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:54:45am

Cartridges weren’t invented until 1847.

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 8:56:46am
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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:00:17am
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Dangerman  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:04:38am

fuck ‘balls and strikes’

the roberts court is a perverse joke

this is his legacy

that is all

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:04:56am

How is it constitutional that I can’t carry on my next flight to Chicago? (Probably coming soon.)

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:05:14am
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mmmirele  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:07:15am

re: #237 No Malarkey!

We can start the countdown in hours until Gilead. Under his eye.

[Embedded content]

The American woman who is miscarrying in Malta but cannot get an abortion in Malta because abortion is banned is apparently being airlifted this evening to Mallorca, where she can get the abortion.

huffpost.com

These asshats think pregnancy and childbirth is puppies and kittens. It’s not, it’s actually fucking dangerous and prior to antibiotics, women regularly died.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:07:51am

re: #279 Dangerman

fuck ‘balls and strikes’

the roberts court is a perverse joke

this is his legacy

that is all

The Calvinball Court, which plays by rules that are incomprehensible to anybody, including themselves. It’s literally just, “Whatever is most convenient for our worldview goes, and to hell with consistency, precedent, and rule of law.”

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:07:54am
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Dopamine Fish  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:11:37am

re: #281 jaunte

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:11:45am

re: #280 Barefoot Grin

How is it constitutional that I can’t carry on my next flight to Chicago? (Probably coming soon.)

But you’ll still need to leave your nail clippers at the security gate.

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Dangerman  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:14:10am

re: #286 Eventual Carrion

But you’ll still need to leave your nail clippers at the security gate.

and your peanut butter

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:15:27am

It appears that lots of people (and not just POC) have been giving serious thought to Wes’s questions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:19:55am

re: #258 No Malarkey!

Violates the Commanders’ property rights!

Do they allow open carry for rapists?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:21:41am

re: #272 Dangerman

no one ever thought to test it to this degree before

We had warning in 2020 but no political will on the part of the GOP to do anything except to make it easier for them to dismiss results they don’t like

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:22:48am
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aatharuv  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:27:49am

re: #36 mmmirele

Fucktarded anti-abortion policies are possibly going to get a woman killed in Malta:

re: #235 jaunte

It’s really sad that it took a completely pointless completely avoidable death at the right time to liberalize abortion laws in Ireland. But at least they used the tragedy as a means of righting a wrong.

Our GOP, and GOP controlled judges use tragedies as a means to double down and make the problem worse.

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nines09  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:28:16am
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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:33:17am
MIAMI BEACH, Fla. - At a marina in Copenhagen, there’s a world-famous statue of a little mermaid. Here in South Florida, we have a real-life one, and she’s on a quest to save our ocean.

“As a mermaid, I want to bring awareness that Biscayne Bay is dying,” Merle Liivand said.

Liivand, 31, is an Estonian competitive swimmer who came to South Florida 11 years ago to train for the Olympics.

In fact, in 2016, she was at the Olympic trials in Rio de Janeiro when she was shocked to see all the trash washing up on the Brazilian coastline.

“And that was really my wake-up call,” she said. “I said, ‘Oh no, I need to do something. I can’t be just the athlete who swims and takes from the sports. I need to do something to give back.’”

And so she came back to South Florida and a mission was born.

“What else mermaids should be doing than saving the ocean?” Liivand said.

Liivand sets world records by swimming long distances wearing her mermaid monofin, but without using her arms — an extraordinary feat of strength and endurance — and all of it is to call attention to what we’re doing to our ocean and all of the marine being impacted.

Miami’s mermaid is on a quest to save our ocean (local10.com)

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:34:24am
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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:40:35am

re: #295 jaunte

States with the strongest gun laws have the lowest per capita gun death rates. That’s not correlation. That’s causation.

What the right wing extremist bench just did was actively assist in killing more Americans with this insane decision, and when coupled with the other decisions they’re pumping out, they’re denying millions of Americans life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness.

They’ve gutted Miranda. They’ve gutted the ability to be free from searches and seizures by eviscerating those rules in the 100 mile border exclusion zone (which is where 60% of Americans live). They’re gutting all the rights and liberties. And they’ve gutted states rights selectively too (because NY and MA can’t impose laws like this on concealed carry, despite the reasonableness of the law).

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:44:21am
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Belafon  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:48:22am

NY should write their law to state that you must be part of the state National Guard to carry.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 9:50:06am

re: #298 Belafon

NY should write their law to state that you must be part of the state National Guard to carry.

That is fully constitutional

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 10:00:14am

re: #277 jaunte

Yeah, I certainly want my 21st-century laws to have to be approved by dead 18th-century slave owners who believed that only white men who owned property should be able to vote. That makes so much fucking sense.

There are many in the GOP who think that things have been going downhill for this country ever since we expanded the franchise beyond white, Protestant male landowners.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2022 • 10:09:32am
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No Malarkey!  Jun 23, 2022 • 10:10:10am

re: #299 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is fully constitutional

Not according to the current SCOTUS.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 23, 2022 • 10:10:28am
The arrest affidavit said Yang told police he cut his wife’s neck with a knife and she tried to crawl away towards a door. He then put her in the bathtub and began playing her favorite music and held her hand for about 10 minutes until she died.

After that, the document stated he tried to clean up the blood off the floor and walls.

Police said Yang told them he could feel himself getting “more and more angry before he became violent” with his wife and that he could have “stopped short of killing her.”

When police asked why he didn’t stop, he allegedly told them that was “not how he was raised” and he was the “type of person who always goes all the way.”

Yang was taken to the Seminole County Jail on no bond.

Florida man cut wife’s throat, played her favorite music as she died, police say (WFLA via MSN)

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jun 23, 2022 • 10:10:30am

re: #246 No Malarkey!

Correct, consent of the person being raped is irrelevant; in Gilead it would be a violation of the Commanders’ property rights. And in the U.S. the position of the GOP is that rape is just another method by which God gifts women with babies.

“And not rape. I didn’t have a lot of choice, but I did have some, and this is what I chose.”

- The Handmaid’s Tale

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2022 • 10:11:31am

re: #302 No Malarkey!

Not according to the current SCOTUS.

God told me it was Constitutional!!!

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No Malarkey!  Jun 23, 2022 • 10:12:07am

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Decatur Deb  Jun 23, 2022 • 10:12:38am

re: #276 jaunte

Cartridges weren’t invented until 1847.

Grenades were used in the American Revolution. Why can’t I have a few?

(The technology has hardly changed at all.)

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Crush White Nationalism  Jun 23, 2022 • 10:12:48am

re: #302 No Malarkey!

Not according to the current SCOTUS.

It’s a GCOTUS now. Guardians Council…

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2022 • 10:13:30am

re: #303 Crush White Nationalism

Florida man cut wife’s throat, played her favorite music as she died, police say (WFLA via MSN)

I’m pretty sure Alito thinks this was OK.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 23, 2022 • 11:21:46am

re: #221 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait…does this mean anyone in the country can now carry concealed without a permit?

Pretty much. This ruling doesn’t really do anything to change things here in Idaho. We already have permitless concealed carry here as well as open carry.


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