Roy Wood Jr.’s Full Comedy Special: “No One Loves You”

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Roy Wood Jr. takes the stage in his second hour-long special to talk about changing the national anthem, protesting, Black superheroes and why people hate learning new things.

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BigPapa  May 7, 2023 • 11:07:51am

Getting me a nice cuppa for some Roy sermonizing.

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silverdolphin  May 7, 2023 • 11:16:07am

Damn. Took too long to write ;-) Just posted this downstairs.

re: #280 Dangerman

I think it is likely that Jeffries, with Pelosi working in the back ground, have got this. They have set up the discharge petition months ago. The Wall Street Republicans had been lied to believe that the starting negotiation position was this bill and that there would be months to get to a real bill. Now there is no time and they will be under extreme pressure (18 of the Republicans in the House come from districts won by Biden).. We shall see but all the leverage is now with the Dems in the House.

This is actually one of my thoughts for how the GOP is broken as we create a new political party system. The Wall Street/Main Street Republicans find common cause with the Third Way, moderate Dems (they already overlap a lot on fiscal issues). This debt bill would be an example.

This giives the moderate Republicans a lot more power than they had in the GOP. Also more than the Progressives, who then respond by reaching out to the working class whites in the GOP (the non-racist ones) by paying to 2 years of community college, and to rural communities ripe for transition to WFH economies. Without these grouos, the GOP cannot win at the national level and we end up with 2 parties - a liberal one and a centrist one. Maybe ;-)

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The Pie Overlord!  May 7, 2023 • 11:21:57am
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jaunte  May 7, 2023 • 11:22:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2023 • 11:22:42am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2023 • 11:25:30am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, basically all the stuff Republicans don’t want you to learn about.

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silverdolphin  May 7, 2023 • 11:30:49am

Yellen Warns There Is No Way Around Lifting Debt Limit

More pressure on at least 5 Republicans in the House to vote for the discharge petition. The alternative is for Biden to ignore the debt ceiling law, invoke the 14th Amendment and tell the Fed to keep creating money to pay the debt. Sure, it would go to the Supreme Court, who may idiotically say this is unconstitutional (they should say the debt ceiling is unconstitutional which it is, IMHO). But they have no way to enforce this ruling. So Biden could continue to pay the debt. And sure, the GOP may work to impeach Biden (but would they so obviously wreck the economy?) but he would not get convicted in the Senate. And Harris would continue to do the same thing.

If Biden is forced to do this, it will, IMHO, seal his place in history as one of the great Presidents. He will obviously saved the global economy which the GOP would have destroyed. No subsequent President would risk re-instituting the debt celining and history would be very positive.

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Dangerman  May 7, 2023 • 11:33:36am

re: #258 Hecuba’s daughter

They also don’t care when they or their loved ones are murdered or harmed. Think of Steve Scalise’s reaction when he was shot or the reaction when their 2 year old shoots their 4 year old — “It’s G-d’s will”.

Imo scalise held onto that position be cause he was not injured enough
I don’t mean to be glib or minimize what happened to him
He survived and lived to tell the tale
Relatively easily
Recovered well, had the best healthcare
No long term or permanent damage
A year later he was playing ball again

Nothing like, say, Giffords

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silverdolphin  May 7, 2023 • 11:34:03am

re: #4 jaunte

Not surprised. All the great professors are probably already looking for santuary in Blue states. The brain drain would be huge. Those professors bring in huge amounts of money from the Federal grants. That money is needed by the Universities to sustain its teaching requirements.

They have to blink if they hope to get any of the Higher Ed lobbying money.

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mmmirele  May 7, 2023 • 11:34:12am

Ummmm…yeah.

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jaunte  May 7, 2023 • 11:35:13am

re: #9 silverdolphin

I’m a little surprised at how quickly reality dawned on them. We’ll see.

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jaunte  May 7, 2023 • 11:36:38am
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mmmirele  May 7, 2023 • 11:37:13am

re: #9 silverdolphin

Not surprised. All the great professors are probably already looking for santuary in Blue states. The brain drain would be huge. Those professors bring in huge amounts of money from the Federal grants. That money is needed by the Universities to sustain its teaching requirements.

They have to blink if they hope to get any of the Higher Ed lobbying money.

Not that I use my degrees for anything (except for “why are you working on the technology help desk when you have a law degree”*) but I couldn’t help but wonder how my degrees would be devalued by this. “Oh yeah, I graduated from UT Austin back when it was a ‘Public Ivy,’ before it became a Greg Abbott-Dan Patrick hellhole.” Right.

*Question I was asked back in 2006 at a job interview. I do think that degree helped me stand out from the crowd of applicants.

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Dangerman  May 7, 2023 • 11:38:08am

re: #274 silverdolphin

Thanks for al the support. It means a lot. I have not heard anything more from the ICU so no news is good news. They’ve got him on antibiotics for the pneumonia, some steroids and anti-virals for the COVID, and another drug to increase his blood pressure. He is getting oxygen. His oxygen saturation levels are fine. It is the high CO2 levels that are a worry (Which anyone who has watched The Andromeda Strain would know would protect him from the alien disease ;-)

I’ll keep you all updated. Again, thank you all so much.

+1 for the movie ref

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gwangung  May 7, 2023 • 11:38:09am

re: #9 silverdolphin

Not surprised. All the great professors are probably already looking for santuary in Blue states. The brain drain would be huge. Those professors bring in huge amounts of money from the Federal grants. That money is needed by the Universities to sustain its teaching requirements.

They have to blink if they hope to get any of the Higher Ed lobbying money.

Not only from federal government, but from corporations. HUGE amounts of money, and this is separate from outright donations. There are contracts and grants for specific applied research, which essentially offload a lot of internal research and development[ onto universities.

That’s a huge reason that universities are such major drivers of economy.

Republicans, of course, want to kill that.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 7, 2023 • 11:39:49am

Police are now saying for the record that the car-pedestrian collision in Brownville this morning was intentional. Just saw an extremely graphic video of the immediate aftermath. (no link, it’s easy to find). Four or five dead people are lying in a pile on the curb. Another one is a few feet away with his head crushed and his brain on the pavement nearby. There are a number of badly injured people, including one guy whose leg was severed just below the knee. Another has lost a hand and is yelling “Mi Mano!” Several people are doing their best to help, including applying tourniquets against massive outflow.
I have not seen anything like this since I left Iraq in 2007. Yeah, the war is here.
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silverdolphin  May 7, 2023 • 11:43:01am

Black Voters Not As Enthusiastic About Biden

We have a year and a half before the elections. Lots will happen to change this. Biden is the best professional politician we have had in my life time as President. Dark Branden has this.

For one, I have been really impressed with Harris since the speech she gave on the Tennessee Three. She was displaying the angry Black woman trope that I have not seen efectively used since Barbara Jordan. It was pretty impressive (especially as she did not seem to be using a teleprompter) She seems to have maintained this style in recent speeches, changing a lot from her previously stilted form. If she can act as a stalking horse hee for Biden, they will have the Black vote sewed up.

Abortion issues will continue to gatherthe woman;s vote. And I expect Biden has some things up his sleeves to get the youth vote excited.

I try not to be a Pollyanna but I really do think this is one possible future. Hope so.

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Captain Magic  May 7, 2023 • 11:44:10am

The Last Of The Curlews

There were many thousands of curlews. Then there were only two.

Now there was only one.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 7, 2023 • 11:51:27am

re: #12

Yeah, Holland, in Britain they put a fancy robe and a weird hat on a 74 year old man and call him a sovereign, yet even they are smart enough to keep semi-auto rifles and high capacity mags away from lunatics. Same for Canada, where they have millions of guns and even the same sovereign geezer.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2023 • 11:52:05am

re: #17 silverdolphin

I’d guess they’re a lot less enthusiastic about Trump and Desantis.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2023 • 11:57:53am
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PhillyPretzel  May 7, 2023 • 11:58:46am

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

That cat wants a belly scratch.

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2023 • 12:00:11pm

I’m not sure it was intentional

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Dangerman  May 7, 2023 • 12:02:08pm

Quite a sentence about a scotus judge

for years, Thomas has accepted lavish trips and gifts from GOP megadonor Harlan Crow, which have gone mostly unreported on the justice’s financial disclosures. Crow also purchased several real estate properties, including the home where Thomas’ mother lives, from the Thomas family and paid boarding school tuition for Thomas’ grandnephew, according to ProPublica

“ethical/legal” or not (its not) it was a damned stupid thing to do
But he don’t care what it looks like

Its the old saw, we’ve established what you are, were just negotiating the price.
And now we all see his.

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Dr Lizardo  May 7, 2023 • 12:03:08pm

re: #23 gocart mozart

That guy in the white T-shirt running towards the camera at the end of the clip has to be, quite possibly, the luckiest guy in Texas.

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Thanos  May 7, 2023 • 12:08:00pm

Careful Bebbahs on board door wreath

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2023 • 12:10:02pm

re: #24 Dangerman

“We’re rich and powerful. We can do what we want. And you can’t do shit to stop us.”

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Dr Lizardo  May 7, 2023 • 12:10:46pm

re: #23 gocart mozart

I’m not sure it was intentional

And looking at that clip, I’m not 100% sure that was intentional, either. Looks like he was speeding, lost control, hit the curb (with the pedestrians), and his SUV flipped. But it’s basically impossible to say right now without seeing the incident from another angle.

Unless the driver confesses to doing it intentionally, of course.

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No Malarkey!  May 7, 2023 • 12:17:30pm

Loved watching her sign during Andy’s Covid reports.

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Captain Ron  May 7, 2023 • 12:23:49pm
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JC1  May 7, 2023 • 12:27:32pm

Ouch…

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Captain Ron  May 7, 2023 • 12:27:39pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 7, 2023 • 12:39:20pm

Was just looking for a jam to listen to…

Neil Young and Crazy Horse - Like a Hurricane - Rust Never Sleeps - Live 1978

Mainly familiar with it from “Live Rust” and was nice to find the video of it. Doing the roadies up like Jawas is sort of brilliant for 1978.

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ckkatz  May 7, 2023 • 12:39:54pm

This is fundamentally unserious -

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ckkatz  May 7, 2023 • 12:41:27pm

There are a whole bunch of takes on this picture -

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silverdolphin  May 7, 2023 • 12:42:23pm

How shading crops with Solar Panels can improve Farming, lower Food Costs and reduce Emissions
Pretty nifty idea. Might well help keep crop yields up even with warmer temps.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2023 • 12:43:00pm

Fun fact: Since I am a Canadian citizen, I am technically one of King Charles’ subjects.

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DodgerFan1988  May 7, 2023 • 12:45:24pm

Inciting violence against migrants.

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ckkatz  May 7, 2023 • 12:46:04pm

re: #37 Eclectic Cyborg

Fun fact: Since I am a Canadian citizen, I am technically one of King Charles’ subjects.

I was reading somewhere that Canada has redesigned the Canadian representation of the Royal Crown that it will use for Charles’ reign. (As opposed to Crown Royal.) But I have not seen anything else on it, so I have not posted it.

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TedStriker  May 7, 2023 • 12:46:44pm

re: #23 gocart mozart

I’m not sure it was intentional

It looks like the driver in question ran a red while speeding, tried to avoid the vehicle that had just turned on from the cross street, overcorrected, and… you’ve seen the rest.

Whoever was behind the wheel is still fucked in any case.

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retired cynic  May 7, 2023 • 12:48:57pm

a comment on Charlie Pierce’s blog:

grennan: Although the final results of some may not have been affected, the GOP has tainted most of the last 14 presidential elections:
1968/Nixon, treason, Paris peace talks
1972/Nixon, Watergate
1976/Carter
1980/Reagan, Iran hostage deal
1984/Reagan
1988/Bush (note that AG Bill Barr may have improperly downplayed veep Bush’s role in Iran/Contra)
1992 and 1996/Clinton
2000/Bush, Bush v. Gore
2004/Bush (note some voter suppression, Ohio and FL)
2008 and 2012/Obama
2016/Trump and the Russians
2020/Biden, then the deluge of the Big Lie

I really hate the idea of sounding like the inverse of Trump’s “only fair if I win”….but it appears the Republican party has neither institutional memory of nor ethos concerning free, fair, best-person-wins, US elections.

I don’t know any way to gift a post from his blog on Esquire, but if you can get on there somehow, it is esquire.com. The post is about that ex-FBI agent convicted on J6 charges. He was part of the FBI office in the New York field office that (to quote Charlie), “put both thumbs, a foot, and its meddling keister on the scale during the 2016 presidential election, as well as the persistent reports that elements of that office had it in for Hillary Rodham Clinton.” In 2017 he was let go, and then joined Project Veritas as an infiltrator assigned to infiltrate teacher unions in Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan and Kentucky. “There are layers within layers of the 2016 election that nobody even has touched yet.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 7, 2023 • 12:49:21pm

re: #23 gocart mozart

I have a feeling he stole the SUV.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 7, 2023 • 12:55:19pm

Holocaust-denying Fucker deleted his Tweet, but The Internet Lives Forever.

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Belafon  May 7, 2023 • 12:57:47pm
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ckkatz  May 7, 2023 • 12:57:51pm

The NYT just published an apparently very flattering article on convicted con artist Elizabeth Holmes. It has come in for a lot of mockery…

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ckkatz  May 7, 2023 • 12:59:30pm

re: #44 Belafon

4 seconds…
gmta!

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steve_davis  May 7, 2023 • 12:59:50pm

apropos to nothing, I managed to pick Eye of the World (Wheel of Time series ) up and finish it, after previously getting bogged down with the wolves and Perrin and Egwene. This is soooooooo much fucking better than the series.

The Amazon series is basically “let’s generate a season arc designed around what we’re told by a focus committee. We’re aiming for Lord of the Rings, but our special effects budget is Star Trek: Original Series, so rather than sticking with the original plot—a damned decent one if I do say so myself, not quite as satisfying as Return of the King, but way better than the overly ponderous White Gold Wielder—let’s create a bunch of shit that doesn’t actually happen in the book—like an interracial marriage between teenaged Perrin and a gal he’ll accidentally kill in the first episode, an interracial lesbian affair between a couple of Ae Sedai witches who don’t exist anywhere in the novel, and some battle scenes with the false Dragon. We’ll also have one of the lads, controlled by an evil artifact (which does kind of happen) kill everybody in some farm house (which doesn’t happen) and it won’t occur to anybody in the focus committee that this is probably gonna impact how the audience views that character for the rest of the fucking series. “Oh, yeah, that’s the guy who killed everybody in that farm house. I think he’s better now.”

So if you haven’t read book one, and were thinking about it, yeah, this is pretty good sword and sorcery. Ignore pretty much anything that happened in the Amazon series because most of it never actually happens, or happens in ways that are way less stupid (remember the scene at Fal Dara where the forces of Good manage to get blown away in one of the stupidest tactical plot devices ever launched? And then how a bunch of Ae Sedai hold hands and burn themselves to the ground in order to hold back the horde? Yeah, I’m happy to report that stupid shit never happened in the book).

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Belafon  May 7, 2023 • 1:02:00pm

re: #43 The Pie Overlord!

Nathan deleted that tweet, but responded to the tweet you put. And he thinks “approximately 6 million” means we’re unsure, meaning it could be 0.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2023 • 1:05:35pm

re: #44 Belafon

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Thanos  May 7, 2023 • 1:10:41pm

Expecting Elon stans all over this thread the next day or so…

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ckkatz  May 7, 2023 • 1:16:30pm

Recently Prigozhin, the head of Wagner had claimed that Wagner was withdrawing its mercenaries from Bakhmut. In response, Kadyrov said that his Chechen mercenaries would replace Wagner in Bakhmut. Now Prigozhin says that Wagner is not withdrawing from Bakhmut.

Some analysts have surmised that the issue was that Wagner had two classes of mercenaries. The first class were the professional/experienced mercenaries. The second class were the convicts.

The professionals are the core of Wagner’s business. If they get killed off, Wagner will have nothing to offer its international clients. Fighting a full fledged war against a tough opponent, they are likely to take massive casualties. Particularly if the Ukrainians decide to deliberately go after them. The Ukrainians have spoken of the Wagner professionals as generally highly competent soldiers.

The convicts are treated as basically cannon fodder including getting shot by Russian rear line security if the convicts try to retreat. They have been given little training and are not well equipped.

I am less convinced by other analysts’ arguments that the Wagner professionals will be needed in some sort of upcoming Russian Civil War scenario.

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Belafon  May 7, 2023 • 1:17:25pm

re: #49 Eclectic Cyborg

Someone in the replies says it’s actually pretty good about going after her. The tweet writers did everything they could to mess with that message.

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ckkatz  May 7, 2023 • 1:20:37pm

re: #50 Thanos

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wrenchwench  May 7, 2023 • 1:22:55pm

Behbeh birb.

Mastodon

Reflection looks like snek. No snek.

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ckkatz  May 7, 2023 • 1:23:44pm

*snork*

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BeenHereAwhile  May 7, 2023 • 1:23:50pm

re: #3 The Pie Overlord!

@foodandwine
For the best key lime pie, go to Florida. foodandwine.com

Gotta give them credit -they got the color right (FWIW, key lime pies aren’t green).

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2023 • 1:26:35pm

OT: I think I’ve found Morgan Freeman’s worst movie. It’s called Vanquished, co-starring Ruby Rose and is currently on Netflix.

Reviews were terrible across the board and the only reason I was curious about it was a lot of it was filmed in my area.

I did recognize many locations but holy shit is the movie bad. Freeman and Rose are okay but the story is confusing and it has some of the worst cinematography and editing I’ve ever seen.

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ckkatz  May 7, 2023 • 1:27:29pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 7, 2023 • 1:27:41pm

Allen mall shooting suspect identified, senior law enforcement source tells CNN

The suspect in Saturday’s mass shooting in Allen, Texas, was identified as 33-year-old Mauricio Garcia, a senior law enforcement source familiar with the investigation told CNN.

Garcia held a Texas security officer commission from 2016 to 2020, which means he had received firearms training and passed an extensive background check, ie there is no chance this guy was an “ill eagle.”
MTG, among other bigots, had declared flatly that he was here illegally and Biden was responsible.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2023 • 1:30:23pm

re: #59 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Great, he was Latino. The RW “illegal immigrant” talking points are being frantically tweeted out as we speak.

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Teukka  May 7, 2023 • 1:30:47pm

re: #59 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Allen mall shooting suspect identified, senior law enforcement source tells CNN

Garcia held a Texas security officer commission from 2016 to 2020, which means he had received firearms training and passed an extensive background check, ie there is no chance this guy was an “ill eagle.”
MTG, among other bigots, had declared flatly that he was here illegally and Biden was responsible.

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ckkatz  May 7, 2023 • 1:33:53pm

re: #59 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I’m just wondering why he did not renew , or maybe was not permitted to renew, the license in April 2020. Was there some sort of issue or negative information about him?

I guess that we will find out eventually.

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wrenchwench  May 7, 2023 • 1:36:54pm
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PhillyPretzel  May 7, 2023 • 1:37:59pm

re: #63 wrenchwench

lol. Cute.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 7, 2023 • 1:38:12pm

Folks, remember that Latin America is full of people that identify as “white” and have racist enough beliefs about black people and natives that neo-Nazi sympathies aren’t really surprising…and those same people would be subject to racism in the United States because “whiteness” has no set definition by design.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 7, 2023 • 1:38:22pm

That’s a good question. His former employers aren’t saying anything yet but they may open up. Abbott is probably on the phone right now trying to get the DPS to suppress any knowledge they have of right wing extremism.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 7, 2023 • 1:38:47pm

re: #65 The Ghost of a Flea

Folks, remember that Latin America is full of people that identify as “white” and have racist enough beliefs about black people and natives that neo-Nazi sympathies aren’t really surprising…and those same people would be subject to racism in the United States because “whiteness” has no set definition by design.

Lots of Nazis ended up in South America.

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wrenchwench  May 7, 2023 • 1:40:04pm

re: #65 The Ghost of a Flea

Folks, remember that Latin America is full of people that identify as “white” and have racist enough beliefs about black people and natives that neo-Nazi sympathies aren’t really surprising…and those same people would be subject to racism in the United States because “whiteness” has no set definition by design.

New Mexico has people who insist they are New Spaniards.

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BeenHereAwhile  May 7, 2023 • 1:40:24pm

re: #33 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Was just looking for a jam to listen to…

[Embedded content]

Video

Mainly familiar with it from “Live Rust” and was nice to find the video of it. Doing the roadies up like Jawas is sort of brilliant for 1978.

My army jeep is still alive
Got locking hubs and four wheel drive
Ain’t got no radio
Ain’t got no mag wheels
Ain’t got no digital clock
Ain’t got no clock

Motor City (2003 Remaster)

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ckkatz  May 7, 2023 • 1:41:07pm

And the critically important question -

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 7, 2023 • 1:41:10pm

re: #61 Teukka

That would explain the wehrmacht haircut that I noted this morning.

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nines09  May 7, 2023 • 1:43:39pm

First I heard of this band. Swedish. Been around since 2007?!!? Crikey.

Royal Republic - Tommy-Gun (Download Festival 2019)

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William Lewis  May 7, 2023 • 1:46:01pm

re: #47 steve_davis

I stopped about a 1/3 of the way through the series when I stopped. I skimmed the last book and saw no reason to change my mind.

OTOH, I found the The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant quite a bit more interesting (if scuzzy in parts) than wheel of time so a classic case of mileage varying.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 7, 2023 • 1:47:40pm

re: #67 The Pie Overlord!

Lots of Nazis ended up in South America.

Yes, but I’m also talking about Central America and the Caribbean, and the previously-Spanish portions of the US, where there was less German migration and fewer Nazis coming in on the rat lines. Where the Spanish Empire was, the Spanish mode of racism tends to persist, and it’s a slightly different shape than US one-drop racism such that you get people that aren’t-white by US standards…being Creole or Mestizo in the old “part-white” Spanish classification of racism…but who are full-on racist in ways that make them lean into Nazism enough though Nazism would view them as unclean.

It’s all very stupid, but unfortunately it’s rhetorically useful when American racists want to claim that a non-white person actions can’t perpetuate white supremacy.

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jaunte  May 7, 2023 • 1:48:08pm
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Captain Ron  May 7, 2023 • 1:48:41pm
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Teukka  May 7, 2023 • 1:52:52pm

FFS… Here we go again…

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jaunte  May 7, 2023 • 1:54:51pm
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BeenHereAwhile  May 7, 2023 • 1:55:55pm

re: #68 wrenchwench

New Mexico has people who insist they are New Spaniards.

My brother’s friend and former business partner is a wealthy Mexican national (Mexican passport); who jokes about how there is no such thing as a rich Mexican.
(I’ll let you supply the punchline.)

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ckkatz  May 7, 2023 • 1:56:28pm

re: #77 Teukka

Oh no!

We have some lizards here on lgf that live down that way!

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Teukka  May 7, 2023 • 2:04:12pm

re: #78 jaunte

I’m having a rightio trying to scaremonger about MS13 in a chat…

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wrenchwench  May 7, 2023 • 2:05:49pm

Birb appears from nowhere.

Mastodon

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 7, 2023 • 2:06:26pm

re: #77 Teukka

FFS… Here we go again…

I’ve been harboring a secret fear that there might be a sudden exponential increase in these events, sort of a critical mass effect.
The right has certainly turned up the temperature on its incitement recently.

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ckkatz  May 7, 2023 • 2:11:30pm
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jaunte  May 7, 2023 • 2:11:54pm
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Joe Bacon  May 7, 2023 • 2:12:15pm

OK the Studios are already using AI to create this…and at the very end of the last chapter Boris regenerates into Lon Chaney, Jr! 😵‍💫

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2023 • 2:12:49pm

re: #83 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I’ve been harboring a secret fear that there might be a sudden exponential increase in these events, sort of a critical mass effect.
The right has certainly turned up the temperature on its incitement recently.

I’m sure Tucker getting canned turned the dial up a bit.

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ckkatz  May 7, 2023 • 2:14:14pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2023 • 2:14:36pm

Maryland incident: Three people reported dead. Was apparently a murder-suicide outside a hotel.

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Captain Ron  May 7, 2023 • 2:15:11pm
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ckkatz  May 7, 2023 • 2:16:17pm
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ckkatz  May 7, 2023 • 2:18:48pm
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BeenHereAwhile  May 7, 2023 • 2:19:15pm

re: #73 William Lewis

I stopped about a 1/3 of the way through the series when I stopped. I skimmed the last book and saw no reason to change my mind.

OTOH, I found the The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant quite a bit more interesting (if scuzzy in parts) than wheel of time so a classic case of mileage varying.

Several threads back Netflix’s The Diplomat was mentioned.

I watched the first five episodes, recommended it to my wife - started again from the beginning and I’m picking up things I missed on the first go-around.

Good - well paced story line, with a lot of “I wasn’t expecting that” character acting and you-are-there-cinematic settings.

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steve_davis  May 7, 2023 • 2:22:48pm

re: #73 William Lewis

I stopped about a 1/3 of the way through the series when I stopped. I skimmed the last book and saw no reason to change my mind.

OTOH, I found the The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant quite a bit more interesting (if scuzzy in parts) than wheel of time so a classic case of mileage varying.

I enjoyed Covenant, once we got past the first book with him feeling compelled to shout “unclean! don’t touch!” at everybody, but I felt like Donaldson wrote himself into a corner by the end and then had to come up with some way of getting the book to end. It’s the same issue everybody has with high fantasy. My bad guy is virtually omniscient: how to destroy them in a way that isn’t completely contrived? Tolkien did it in genius fashion by simply not bothering with a final showdown. The ring is destroyed and much of Sauron’s power is in the ring; hence, Sauron is effectively destroyed. We don’t have to have some fictitious conversation with Sauron.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 7, 2023 • 2:23:24pm

re: #85 jaunte

See, this is part of the unacknowledged incoherence of race…even as held by racists…that makes it so hard to talk about. The idea of “whiteness” is…vapor…but even the act of speaking to oppose it conveys the sense that it’s something solid, define-able.

Modern definitions of “white” vary far more than any one racist wants to acknowledge, because there’s neither an orthodoxy—a central authority setting the terms, like a government or a spiritual leader—nor an objective series of measures to determine the boundaries of race—scientific racism has never really achieved “science” with its postulates. Each white supremacist has their own personal model that they derive through cultural communication, without any system to “find truth” when picking between racist theorems.

There are absolutely white supremacists who don’t view Iberians as white…or Slavs as white, or (retro) the Irish as white…because there’s literally nothing stopping them. For the individual racist, it’s all vague impressions and self-gratification and pseudo-intellectual gamesmanship, to define oneself as the elect of the elect; for hegemonic power, whiteness is a series of tiers by which you grant and revoke license from your goons.

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BeenHereAwhile  May 7, 2023 • 2:29:01pm
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Captain Ron  May 7, 2023 • 2:35:24pm
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Captain Ron  May 7, 2023 • 2:37:36pm
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William Lewis  May 7, 2023 • 2:40:52pm

re: #98 Captain Ron

You can take the Nazi out of South Africa but you’ll never take the Nazi out of him.

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ckkatz  May 7, 2023 • 2:43:28pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 7, 2023 • 2:43:39pm

re: #73 William Lewis

OTOH, I found the The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant quite a bit more interesting (if scuzzy in parts) than wheel of time so a classic case of mileage varying.

Covenant is the quintessential anti-hero. His wife let him and his Hansen’s disease made him even more bitter. But he does learn and becomes a tad less assholish. It’s not a big bar to say ‘at least he didn’t rape his daughter’ as he did to her mother, but he didn’t.

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silverdolphin  May 7, 2023 • 2:56:09pm

re: #70 ckkatz

And the critically important question -

But how do people feel about the most important part - a plaque-loosening pre rinse? ;-)

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William Lewis  May 7, 2023 • 2:58:32pm

re: #102 silverdolphin

But how do people feel about the most important part - a plaque-loosening pre rinse? ;-)

I find two fingers of a good blended whisky like The Famous Grouse works well for that.

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ckkatz  May 7, 2023 • 3:00:56pm

re: #102 silverdolphin

But how do people feel about the most important part - a plaque-loosening pre rinse? ;-)

:)

You reminded of the Tom Lehrer monologue from “Old Mexico” -

Whereupon he switched to the field of medicine in which field he also won renown as the inventor of gargling. Which prior to that time had been practiced only furtively by a remote tribe in the Andes who passed the secret down from father to son as part of their oral tradition.

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Dangerman  May 7, 2023 • 3:01:39pm

re: #100 ckkatz

so, once infected, vaccination status didnt alleviate this condition

the point is you still vaccinate to make catching the infection less likely

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ckkatz  May 7, 2023 • 3:04:56pm

re: #103 William Lewis

I find two fingers of a good blended whisky like The Famous Grouse works well for that.

Or listerine, which reportedly has up to a 26.9% ethanol content.
*Life hack - do not take a breathalyzer test just after gargling with it.

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silverdolphin  May 7, 2023 • 3:08:35pm

re: #101 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Covenant is the quintessential anti-hero. His wife let him and his Hansen’s disease made him even more bitter. But he does learn and becomes a tad less assholish. It’s not a big bar to say ‘at least he didn’t rape his daughter’ as he did to her mother, but he didn’t.

he first Conenant trilogy is one of my favorite series, mainly because of so many unforgettable characters and settings.I reread it about once a year. But it will never be made into a movie or TV series because of the rape. Even though Covenant thinks he is hallucinating and even though he is overwhelmed by feelings he has not felt in years. Neither can excuse the rape. But his regret and self-loathing for the rape is an integral part of his redemption. So I can’t see them ignoring it.

And I did enjoy it more than Wheel of Time ;-)

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Dangerman  May 7, 2023 • 3:11:08pm

re: #106 ckkatz

Or listerine, which reportedly has up to a 26.9% ethanol content.
*Life hack - do not take a breathalyzer test just after gargling with it.

‘honest, officer….’


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