Some More News: Elon Musk’s “Hitler Problem”

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Elon Musk has dropped all pretense and is now openly espousing white supremacism every day on Twitter. But if you read this New York Times article about him, published yesterday, you won’t see a single word about that appalling fact: New PBS Documentary Brings Elon Musk (and His 3-Year-Old) to the MoMA.

Nobody will ever accuse the New York Times of having the Woke Mind Virus. I mean, right wingers will do it anyway, but they shouldn’t.

Hi. It sure seems like Elon Musk agrees a lot with the Nazis lately, doesn’t it? Oh No! Sounds like I’ve contracted the Woke Mind Virus!

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00:00 - Intro
02:22 - A Stupid Question: Were the Nazis Left-Wing or Right-Wing?
11:09 - What Makes the Nazis… Well, Nazis?
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25:20 - The “Socialists” Who Hate Unions
31:44 - Musk / Ford: Sympathizer Synergy
37:29 - Musk’s Sympathetic Origins
43:37 - The Dangers of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion?
49:33 - WOKENESS & The Roots of Cultural Marxism
57:49 - The Woke Mind Virus is Spreading!
01:03:44 - Surrounded by Nazis & Fascists
01:11:17 - Ready Player Elon
01:17:23 - Twitter is gettin’ X’ed Y’all
01:23:00 - Elon Musk’s Hitler Problem

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156 comments
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:17:15am

And people who speak out against White Supermacism and outright Fascism are now being branded as intolerant and narrow-minded.

They are getting away with this because they control the means of dissemination

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Charles  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:17:52am

re: #47 Skip Intro

Yep, you were right.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:18:16am

re: #269 goddamnedfrank

This is also why the AI techbros have a collective shit fit whenever people bring up copyrights. Restricting their babies to only consume non-copyrighted material even further reduces the pool of available data. That this policy also fucks over little people, the ones who rely on copyright to protect their work and make money, is a side benefit.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:22:57am

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The only people tolerant of White Supremacy are White Supremacists. That includes POCs like Candace Owens. I have no reason to be tolerant of racists.

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lawhawk  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:23:44am

re: #3 Nerdy Fish

IMO, companies that have corralled a lot of data, and limit their AI to their curated content, have an advantage here. Limit the generative AI to that data set, and you have potential to limit the hallucinatory effects.

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lawhawk  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:26:03am

Good. This astroturfed effort was always doomed, and likely to doom American democracy.

At least those left in charge realized the latter was the reason for the former and decided to end their effort. /wishful thinking?

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:26:18am

re: #5 lawhawk

IMO, companies that have corralled a lot of data, and limit their AI to their curated content, have an advantage here. Limit the generative AI to that data set, and you have potential to limit the hallucinatory effects.

This is the primary actual purpose of AI. The smaller the problem domain, the more accurate the AI is at generating its results. Within that problem domain, the more data you can have, the better. As the problem domain grows in scope, the AI’s predictive power is reduced, until you get to a point where you’d get better results flipping a coin than from asking the AI.

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wrenchwench  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:27:18am

re: #6 lawhawk

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Good. This astroturfed effort was always doomed, and likely to doom American democracy.

At least those left in charge realized the latter was the reason for the former and decided to end their effort. /wishful thinking?

No Ideas.

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Dangerman  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:31:03am

re: #6 lawhawk

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: No Labels Will Abandon 2024 Presidential Campaign Effort

what effort?

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lawhawk  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:31:31am

re: #7 Nerdy Fish

Some of the companies involved are hoping that paralleling AIs to tackle different aspects of problems may help, but I think they’ll run into same issue - hallucinatory outputs, because as the data set gets larger, the chances for outputs to be incorrect grows as well.

Here’s another thought - AI is a way for forcing everyone to become programmers. We don’t have to learn C or Pascal or UNIX. Rather, we have to deduce and identify queries that tailor outputs and limit hallucinations and these queries become increasingly complex as we try to get specific outputs. We have to score the outputs, all to benefit and improve the AI content. And when the powers that be think the AI outputs are good enough, they can just dump those who have taught and grown those AI in-house and leave it to its own devices.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:31:49am

re: #6 lawhawk

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Good. This astroturfed effort was always doomed, and likely to doom American democracy.

At least those left in charge realized the latter was the reason for the former and decided to end their effort. /wishful thinking?

Good. Now do RFK Jr. next.

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Mattand  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:32:03am

re: #6 lawhawk

No Labels Will Abandon 2024 Presidential Campaign Effort

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:37:33am

Here’s Pony Boy. 3 trips in the car and not a peep out of him. So thrilled because my last 2 dogs (also rescues) were nightmares in the car. Hallelujah!

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A Three Hour Tour  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:38:24am

re: #8 wrenchwench

No Ideas.

Well, with the passing of Joe Lieberman, how long does the organization really have left?

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:38:40am

re: #13 GlutenFreeJesus

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Here’s Pony Boy. 3 trips in the car and not a peep out of him. So thrilled because my last 2 dogs (also rescues) were nightmares in the car. Hallelujah!

I’m so happy for you. He looks like a beautiful dog.

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William Lewis  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:39:08am

I WGAF about modern AI when it can help me with cleaning my home, doing my dishes and laundry so I can concentrate on my art. NOT when it tries to help with my art or do my art for me. That AI can die in a fire.

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Jay C  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:39:55am

re: #6 lawhawk

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Good. This astroturfed effort was always doomed, and likely to doom American democracy.

At least those left in charge realized the latter was the reason for the former and decided to end their effort. /wishful thinking?

No Labels
No Ideas
No Candidate
No Chance

now just:

No.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:43:53am

re: #6 lawhawk

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Good. This astroturfed effort was always doomed, and likely to doom American democracy.

At least those left in charge realized the latter was the reason for the former and decided to end their effort. /wishful thinking?

They’ll just move their resources to coocoo RFKJ. There are still rats to be fucked.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:44:02am

re: #268 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

which makes it even weirder that she is using Blood Libel rhetoric

Okay, I’m going to say something in a very intense way:

It only seems weird because you’ve been educated to view conspiracy through the lens of idpol, because liberalism’s preoccupation with individual morality posits that shitty ideas arise and propagate because of “hate” that can be labeled as a specific bigotry, completely stepping over that conspiracies are explanations of social problems that reinforce existing intergroup conflicts, and bigotry exists to explain the total devaluation of other humans being so that they can be exploited or disposed of.

Literally anyone can use any conspiracy theory to justify their position and there is no innoculation such that “being of a group” makes you immune to pulling that shit. If that was the case, Ben Shaprio and a sizable chunk of Likud talking heads wouldn’t be selling versions of the Frankfort School conspiracy and regularly dropping “Cultural Marxism” as a way to discount liberal and leftist Jews as literally “not really Jewish.”

A decade ago Pamela Gellar was rebuilding antisemitic conspiracy theories to apply to Muslims; people are still doing this, with sufficient success that a big chunk of Hindutva rhetoric leans into tropes that started as European antisemitism…not because the BJP secretly hates Jews, but because it’s more convenient to say “Muslims control Bollywood and make Hindus look bad and prey on our women” than to do actual pro-social work.

Conspiracy is just a kind of rhetoric, and like all rhetoric the bits that perpetuate are the bits that work at either convincing people to go along or keeping people siloed within the narrative frame of the rheotorician. “They’re hurting babies” is just the fastest way to justify a lynching and/or a looting spree, and those are the consequents that conspiracists that drop that language are generally trying to affirm. The Blood Libel worked back in the day because it took a basic horror trope and mixed it something specifically Jewish, but in the centuries hence the same horror trope—eating people in some form—recurs over and over because it works as a way of eliciting disgust and thus elevating sadism, theft, and violence into something purifying and redemptive.

You can see the same retention of tropes across contexts in the tendency of literally everyone to declare that their ideological opponents have weird sex…for most of history, accusing dudes of being bottoms has become normalized, but that has an origin point in Romans’ view that being penetrated was the ultimate unmasculine thing (hence Catullus and the constant reference to irrumatio).

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wrenchwench  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:45:44am

re: #14 A Three Hour Tour

Well, with the passing of Joe Lieberman, how long does the organization really have left?

That’s how you tell there was no ‘movement’ involved. Just a personality or 2.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:45:50am

re: #3 Nerdy Fish

It’s basically like the tech version of a pyramid scheme, no?

Eventually the numbers just get too far away from reality at which point any benefits of the system are completely lost .

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:47:54am

Time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards and stay healthy.

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:49:30am

re: #16 William Lewis

Seen recently in the webs.

Why aren’t we having AI help creative people with tedious stuff rather than helping tedious people with creative stuff?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:53:31am

Things To Never Say To An RFK Jr. Voter

theonion.com

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dat_said  Apr 4, 2024 • 11:57:03am

Reuters: Trump to be deposed in dispute with media company co-founders

A notice filed with Delaware’s Court of Chancery, where the co-founders sued Trump Media, said the deposition is scheduled for April 15 at 10 am ET (1400 GMT) in New York, which is also the scheduled start of Trump’s first criminal trial.

Certainly will be rescheduled but still …

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:07:05pm

I really hope TFG has an outburst at his trial that costs him dearly.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:11:29pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

I really hope TFG has an outburst at his trial that costs him dearly.

Only a matter of time before Trump whips out the metal balls and mumbles about Joe Biden stealing the strawberries!

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William Lewis  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:13:49pm

An old beer joint near where I grew up. There was a general store upstairs when I was young but only the tavern survives in an age of Walmart’s (says a bit about Wisconsin too but I digress… ;) ) but too early today even for them to be open now. Love the bright blue of the smoker’s bench though & the all too accurate advertisement of the sign as the bar is in the basement…

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William Lewis  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:14:06pm

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William Lewis  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:14:16pm

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Joe Bacon ✅  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:14:43pm

Judge Cannon rejects Trump’s bid to dismiss classified documents case based on Presidential Records Act

The ruling could avert a looming standoff between special counsel Jack Smith and Judge Aileen M. Cannon. It comes two days after Smith said the judge was pursuing a legal premise that was “wrong,” and urged her to rule quickly so that he would have the option of appealing before trial.

washingtonpost.com

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William Lewis  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:14:51pm

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lawhawk  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:15:10pm

GA court news:

Trump loses another chance to get the case against him dismissed on far fetched and obscene misreading of the law and Constitution to try and keep him out of prison for his crimes. This time, he was claiming that his speech was protected 1A. The court found no such right exists:

An Atlanta-area judge on Thursday upheld the criminal indictment against former President Donald Trump in Georgia, rejecting the argument that Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election were protected under the First Amendment.

“The defense has not presented, nor is the Court able to find, any authority that the speech and conduct alleged is protected political speech,” Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee wrote in his order.

McAfee’s ruling is the latest step inching the state racketeering case against Trump forward. But while Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis has suggested she would be ready to go to trial as soon as August, the judge has still not set a trial date for Trump or his remaining 14 co-defendants in the Peach State.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:17:09pm

re: #31 Joe Bacon ✅

She also denied Smith’s motion for prompt ruling on the PRA, so she’s clearly angling for jeopardy to attach.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:18:28pm

Think of the amount of legal expenses that TFG has drained from various sources over the years.

Now imagine how many people that could feed and clothe.

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Mattand  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:19:35pm

re: #13 GlutenFreeJesus

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Here’s Pony Boy. 3 trips in the car and not a peep out of him. So thrilled because my last 2 dogs (also rescues) were nightmares in the car. Hallelujah!

Boo would say “Welcome”, but he’s too busy pining for the hoagie that could have been his.

“I gotta have a Wawa, too…”
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William Lewis  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:20:56pm

re: #28 William Lewis

Tighter crop to show it a bit better:

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:28:51pm

re: #7 Nerdy Fish

This is the primary actual purpose of AI. The smaller the problem domain, the more accurate the AI is at generating its results. Within that problem domain, the more data you can have, the better. As the problem domain grows in scope, the AI’s predictive power is reduced, until you get to a point where you’d get better results flipping a coin than from asking the AI.

I’m going to seek VC investment for “Coin, the decision-maker.”

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Axolotl  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:33:42pm

re: #30 William Lewis

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I don’t know art but this one really spoke to me.

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Axolotl  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:34:50pm

re: #37 William Lewis

Tighter crop to show it a bit better:

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That would make a great tshirt. They would probably make a lot of money for that.

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Dangerman  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:38:30pm

thanks to a brilliant observation by william lewis last year, i’ve been using virtualbox on linux to run some pretty high end windows only tax software.
mostly successfully.

getting it to actually work after years of being marooned on a windows laptop was a major coup. i’m sure im the only person anywhere doing this.

until this year’s release. because virtually all tax software is rewritten every year.

after weeks of frustration i figured out that virtualbox was conflicting with chrome running in linux. my whole practice runs on gmail, gdrive, calendar etc
plus tabbing back and forth is very frustrating cause virtual box thinks you’re switching apps inside the machine. not outside to linux. so i need to mouse to get outside, then tab around. i hate mice.

also the tax s/w uses chrome inside virtualbox to validate my identity to log me in.

yesterday i figured a workaround. i’d pdf the files i needed, turn chrome off and start VB.

it worked fine for the first client and then i had the burst of lightning.

chrome is already running inside virtualbox, ya knobhead.
open everything in there. (including lgf)
duh.

yup. so far so good.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:40:59pm

re: #41 Dangerman

Wife and I punched the button on our Federal return about 20 min ago. We opened the snob wine early.

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Dangerman  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:46:10pm

re: #42 Decatur Deb

Wife and I punched the button on our Federal return about 20 min ago. We opened the snob wine early.

enjoy

im just a couple of days behind you and the extension pile will be done.

then i wait for them all to wake up and actually send me, you know, tax data

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:50:21pm

re: #6 lawhawk

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Good. This astroturfed effort was always doomed, and likely to doom American democracy.

At least those left in charge realized the latter was the reason for the former and decided to end their effort. /wishful thinking?

First they went through their Rolodexs one by one and asked every man and woman either headed to or already residing in the political wilderness and they said no. Then they announced that they were just going to pull together a committee and pick somebody. Now, after months of fanfare and talk about the hunger that the voters have for a “unity” ticket, they announce they’re giving up and pulling the plug.

Gee, it’s almost like nobody wants to be the person whose footnote in history is “Helped Donald Trump win a second term.”///////

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:50:59pm

Man what:

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Captain Ron  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:52:59pm

Within days, highly pathogenic avian flu — a type of influenza A known as H5N1 — was identified in at least a dozen herds across six states, from Texas in the south, up to Michigan and Idaho on the Canadian border.

Louise Moncla, an avian influenza researcher and assistant professor at the University of Pennsylvania, was stunned.

“The overwhelming feeling that all of us have is that this is mostly just incredibly strange,” she said. “To our knowledge, I’ve never seen a cow be infected with any influenza A viruses.”

But the curveball wasn’t entirely unexpected. And it may be a harbinger of more species-jumps to come, including the rising possibility of H5N1 appearing in pigs — which could offer it a new route to better adapt to infect humans, inching the world closer to a bird flu pandemic.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:54:27pm

re: #43 Dangerman

enjoy

im just a couple of days behind you and the extension pile will be done.

then i wait for them all to wake up and actually send me, you know, tax data

For the first time in forever, this year I got our taxes done way before the last minute and already got our refunds (in the form of I-bonds) in the mail.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:54:34pm

re: #45 goddamnedfrank

In other words:

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:59:45pm

re: #48 goddamnedfrank

In other words:

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*rubbing temples*

Mongo’s head hurts.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 4, 2024 • 12:59:57pm

re: #47 Backwoods Sleuth

For the first time in forever, this yearI got our taxes done way before the last minute and already got our refunds (in the form of I-bonds) in the mail.

Can’t say ours is totally “done”. The not-very-intuitive software would not show us the “Go” button to pay their premium to file Alabama electronically (fought with the formatting for 2 days). We’ll wait and mail AL the 0-sum return when I get a fresh printer cartridge.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:01:02pm

Hilarious if true because it’d be a fractal; a deliberate financial misrepresentation in a bond to stay, pending appeal, enforcement of a court judgement over a plethora of similar misrepresentations.

Motherfuckers just committing fraud and perjuring themselves over their finances at every conceivable scale of magnification.

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ckkatz  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:04:02pm

re: #6 lawhawk

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Good. This astroturfed effort was always doomed, and likely to doom American democracy.

At least those left in charge realized the latter was the reason for the former and decided to end their effort. /wishful thinking?

This is great!

Hopefully it is is indeed dead and gone.

My big worry is that some rich oligarch will find a way to try again with this.

And that it will slime its way out of the crypt to again threaten us.

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:04:18pm

re: #51 goddamnedfrank

Hilarious if true because it’d be a fractal; a deliberate financial misrepresentation in a bond to stay, pending appeal, enforcement of a court judgement over a plethora of similar misrepresentations.

At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a deliberate attempt to do exactly the thing Trump is accused constantly of engaging in: Laundering foreign cash through a domestic intermediary to bail his ass out of trouble on the promise of future favors.

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ckkatz  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:04:51pm

re: #50 Decatur Deb

Turbo-Tax is the worst computer game ever!

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:04:57pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

*rubbing temples*

Mongo’s head hurts.

To try my best to boil it down: The missing financial statement was from the parent company that owns the subsidiary that is insuring Trump’s bond. This parent company is the ultimate backer of the bond, so it stands to reason that their financials are required. They list, among their assets, a $185M IOU from an undisclosed source, which seems shady enough on its own. In what may or may not be a complete coincidence, it is also the amount Trump would owe such a company if they charged him ~$10M for the cost of insuring the bond. Making matters even more perplexing, that IOU appears on the company’s fourth-quarter financials for last year, so if the coincidence/conspiracy is true, then Trump is trying to do another one of the things he already owes nearly half a billion dollars for: He had somebody fib on their financials to say that his IOU is an asset big enough to cover a loan.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:04:59pm

Oh my The DC Bar butt-bongoes Jeff Clark!

politico.com

Disciplinary investigators who brought the charges against Clark say they intend to advocate for his disbarment.

A disciplinary panel in Washington has found that Jeffrey Clark, a former high-ranking Justice Department official, violated ethics rules for lawyers in his attempt to aid Donald Trump’s bid to subvert the 2020 election.

The three-member disciplinary committee determined Thursday that Clark’s campaign to pressure Justice Department leaders to help upend the transfer of power to Joe Biden violated his duties as an attorney.

The preliminary ruling jumpstarts a process that could lead to the suspension or even permanent revocation of Clark’s license to practice law, even as he’s considered a candidate for a senior position in a second Trump administration.Disciplinary investigators who brought the charges against Clark say they intend to advocate for his disbarment.

LOCK
HIM
UP!

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:06:49pm

re: #56 Joe Bacon ✅

Now there’s a man who needs to go through some things. Threatening us with the Insurrection Act if we wouldn’t go along with his little coup attempt, fuck that noise.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:06:55pm

Why Conservative “Comedy” Fails: Rob Schneider vs Tim Heidecker

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:09:11pm
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Joe Bacon ✅  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:10:52pm

1.23
Powerball is 1.23
Billions oh yes sir-ree
1.23
Billions yeah
Baby You Can See!

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Decatur Deb  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:13:28pm

re: #60 Joe Bacon ✅

1.23
Powerball is 1.23
Billions oh yes sir-ree
1.23
Billions yeah
Baby You Can See!

Do you know how pissed off I’d be to win the lottery in the last eleventh of my life?

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sizzzzlerz  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:14:16pm

re: #27 Joe Bacon ✅

Only a matter of time before Trump whips out the metal balls and mumbles about Joe Biden stealing the strawberries!

Even better, having him accuse Obama of having the 2nd key.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:14:24pm

re: #61 Decatur Deb

Do you know how pissed of I’d be to win the lottery in the last eleventh of my life?

Tell me about it. I’m 68…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:16:53pm

re: #9 Dangerman

what effort?

The point of No Labels was to weaken Biden, but since they cannot find a candidate who would do that to the extent that the benefits would justify the cost, they will just go back to spreding misinformation and ratfucking the election

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:20:30pm

re: #19 The Ghost of a Flea

I get your point that certain talking points aren’t “owned” by any ideology, just like anti-vaxers can be hard-core wingnuts who distrust science and Big Government or way-out woo-woos who distrust Western Medicine and Big Pharma.

Still find it sick as fuck to be talking about drinking baby’s blood.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:21:35pm

Kevin would like you all to know he thinks TFG is a lying sack of shit.

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wrenchwench  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:22:07pm

re: #55 Nerdy Fish

To try my best to boil it down: The missing financial statement was from the parent company that owns the subsidiary that is insuring Trump’s bond. This parent company is the ultimate backer of the bond, so it stands to reason that their financials are required. They list, among their assets, a $185M IOU from an undisclosed source, which seems shady enough on its own. In what may or may not be a complete coincidence, it is also the amount Trump would owe such a company if they charged him ~$10M for the cost of insuring the bond. Making matters even more perplexing, that IOU appears on the company’s fourth-quarter financials for last year, so if the coincidence/conspiracy is true, then Trump is trying to do another one of the things he already owes nearly half a billion dollars for: He had somebody fib on their financials to say that his IOU is an asset big enough to cover a loan.

Möbius money.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:22:18pm

re: #50 Decatur Deb

Can’t say ours is totally “done”. The not-very-intuitive software would not show us the “Go” button to pay their premium to file Alabama electronically (fought with the formatting for 2 days). We’ll wait and mail AL the 0-sum return when I get a fresh printer cartridge.

I actually would have had our taxes done way back in February but to file our (zero sum) KY return, I needed both of our Kentucky driver license info.

Which is when I learned *MY* driver’s license expired last summer. Apparently Kentucky no longer sends a notice to renew, and Kentucky also shut down license renewals at the local county clerk’s office. Instead one has to make an appointment and then drive to a regional license facility (in our case, it’s about 30 or so miles away in the next county). Checked online and HURRAH! they are taking walk-ins that particular day I planned to file the taxes. Got new license (this one is good until 2031), horrible photo, but taxes filed.

HUZZAH!!!

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:22:35pm

re: #58 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

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Besides the usual point that conservative “comedy” largely depends upon punching down at “out” groups, Schneider also falls into the category of “aging hacks angry they’re no longer culturally relevant.” His career basically peaked in the late-90s/early-00s after leaving SNL and he’s been the guy Adam Sandler dumps his unfunny jokes on ever since. So now he’s a bitter old man who’s making a pathetic attempt at a “career comeback.”

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:25:46pm

re: #66 Eclectic Cyborg

I agree with Kevin. DT is a %^%$#@!.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:26:26pm

re: #61 Decatur Deb

Do you know how pissed off I’d be to win the lottery in the last eleventh of my life?

I am on the Magnum Lotto Pension Plan: buy a lottery ticket every week until I retire. If I aven’t won by then, I buy a Magnum .357 and knock over a bank. Even if I get caught, I have a roof over my head, warm meals and medical care for the rest of my days…

72
Charles  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:27:45pm

If what I’m reading about this bond situation is correct, the NY court is facing a test. Put up or shut up. Hold Trump accountable now.

73
dat_said  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:28:46pm

re: #68 Backwoods Sleuth

I’d make some joke about you driving to renew your expired driver’s license but then I remembered that I drove to get my first driver’s license.

74
Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:29:45pm

re: #72 Charles

If what I’m reading about this bond situation is correct, the NY court is facing a test. Put up or shut up. Hold Trump accountable now.

Come on NY, don’t let us down.

75
Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:31:05pm

re: #72 Charles

If what I’m reading about this bond situation is correct, the NY court is facing a test. Put up or shut up. Hold Trump accountable now.

They’ll just let him have another do-over: “Alright, we’re giving you yet another extension to get your shit together. Don’t make us give you another!”

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:31:20pm

re: #72 Charles

basically from what I have read/heard the company that put up the money may not be good for it?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:31:52pm

re: #76 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

basically from what I have read/heard the company that put up the money may not be good for it?

They cannot prove as much and hence the court is not compelled to accept it.

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wrenchwench  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:36:15pm

re: #70 PhillyPretzel ✅

I agree with Kevin. DT is a %^%$#@!.

You speak cat!

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Teddy's Person  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:36:36pm

re: #66 Eclectic Cyborg

[Embedded content]

Kevin would like you all to know he thinks TFG is a lying sack of shit.

Kevin 😍 (Boo and Pony Boy too😘)

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:40:22pm
81
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:41:12pm

re: #80 DodgerFan1988

Remember “The Chinese Flu”?

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Decatur Deb  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:41:52pm

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“The Chinese Flu”

Shanty Irish

83
A Cranky One  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:42:04pm

84
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:42:50pm

re: #73 dat_said

I’d make some joke about you driving to renew your expired driver’s license but then I remembered that I drove to get my first driver’s license.

Same way I drove my car without valid plates to the DMV to get it registered.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:44:26pm

re: #84 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Same way I drove my car without valid plates to the DMV to get it registered.

When I brought my Yamaha back from Italy, the DMV wanted to see the frame numbers to re-register it. I rode it down, and they fined me for the trip.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:45:48pm

re: #83 A Cranky One

I saw this earlier today on FB and do not get the reference. DJT?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:46:45pm

re: #85 Decatur Deb

When I brought my Yamaha back from Italy, the DMV wanted to see the frame numbers to re-register it. I rode it down, and they fined me for the trip.

I guess they expected you would have it brought there by truck…

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Backwoods Sleuth  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:47:25pm

re: #61 Decatur Deb

Do you know how pissed of I’d be to win the lottery in the last eleventh of my life?

I sure wouldn’t kick it away.

89
Decatur Deb  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:48:19pm

re: #88 Backwoods Sleuth

I sure wouldn’t kick it away.

Using it properly would shorten your life.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:48:55pm

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I guess they expected you would have it brought there by truck…

Their mothers breed out-of-season.

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A Cranky One  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:49:31pm

re: #86 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I saw this earlier today on FB and do not get the reference. DJT?

Yes. DJT

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TedStriker  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:51:27pm

re: #74 Eclectic Cyborg

Come on NY, don’t let us down.

[Embedded content]

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Belafon  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:53:49pm

re: #16 William Lewis

I WGAF about modern AI when it can help me with cleaning my home, doing my dishes and laundry so I can concentrate on my art. NOT when it tries to help with my art or do my art for me. That AI can die in a fire.

So you’re against cleaning ladies? I see how you are. /

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:55:24pm
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TedStriker  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:56:53pm

re: #94 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

[Embedded content]

“New marketing contractor” that went rogue? Yeah, pull the other one…

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darthstar  Apr 4, 2024 • 1:58:16pm

re: #254 goddamnedfrank

Queen to Knight 4:

[Embedded content]

Oh…did someone’s bond not get approved? That’s a shame…

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KGxvi  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:00:31pm

re: #6 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Good. This astroturfed effort was always doomed, and likely to doom American democracy.

At least those left in charge realized the latter was the reason for the former and decided to end their effort. /wishful thinking?

I’m in the camp that the US needs a third (and fourth and fifth and sixth) party, a pluralistic nation of 350m people spread across a continent cannot be well served by a de facto two party system. That said, the first step in that movement needs to be abolishing the electoral college. Expanding the House is also necessary.

Beyond that - anyone really wanting to build a third party movement needs to start at the state/local level. A top down approach won’t work (see, for example, the Perot led Reform Party) because if you really want to get things done, you need to win seats in state legislatures and in Congress.

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Jay C  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:00:34pm

re: #94 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

[Embedded content]

Oh yeah, the old “the intern did it by mistake” dodge (featuring the “contractor” variation) ?

Idiots.

And this clownshow is actually polling non-trivial numbers in the context of a Biden-Trump rematch election???

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wrenchwench  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:01:59pm

April is Schrader’s birthday month. He gets the whole month because I only got an estimate for a birthday. To celebrate, he’s being as annoying as he can. He had a barf fest in the middle of the night last night. He jumps on my shoulders. He won’t leave me alone if I’m eating. It’s going to be a long month. He gets away with it all, just because he has turned 17. Annoying as it is, gotta respect that he can jump on my shoulders (while I’m sitting in a chair.)

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Dangerman  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:04:53pm

re: #55 Nerdy Fish

To try my best to boil it down: The missing financial statement was from the parent company that owns the subsidiary that is insuring Trump’s bond. This parent company is the ultimate backer of the bond, so it stands to reason that their financials are required. They list, among their assets, a $185M IOU from an undisclosed source, which seems shady enough on its own. In what may or may not be a complete coincidence, it is also the amount Trump would owe such a company if they charged him ~$10M for the cost of insuring the bond. Making matters even more perplexing, that IOU appears on the company’s fourth-quarter financials for last year, so if the coincidence/conspiracy is true, then Trump is trying to do another one of the things he already owes nearly half a billion dollars for: He had somebody fib on their financials to say that his IOU is an asset big enough to cover a loan.

a+

you win a cookie

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Florida Panhandler  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:05:08pm

re: #80 DodgerFan1988

Next thing you know, according to the Elon/MAGA convergence from hell, Hitler would be “grossly misjudged” on his views concerning race.

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KGxvi  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:07:10pm

re: #60 Joe Bacon ✅

1.23
Powerball is 1.23
Billions oh yes sir-ree
1.23
Billions yeah
Baby You Can See!

that’s if you take the 30 annual payments (because most of it is in bonds). If you take the cash value it’s $595.1m before taxes - which ain’t chump change. Depending on your state, the after tax amount can be around $407m-$475m (DC has the highest tax rate, several states don’t tax lottery winnings, among them California).

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ckkatz  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:07:34pm

A couple of updates on the Baltimore Key Bridge response effort:
Post 1/2

Mercogliano Xitter post

Referenced YouTube Video (47:02): April 3, 2024 | Governor Wes Moore Press Conference on the Collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:08:38pm

My shocked face, etc.

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wrenchwench  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:12:39pm

Mastodon

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:13:53pm

re: #105 wrenchwench

Very Cool. Electric Lady.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:14:01pm

re: #102 KGxvi

that’s if you take the 30 annual payments (because most of it is in bonds). If you take the cash value it’s $595.1m before taxes - which ain’t chump change. Depending on your state, the after tax amount can be around $407m-$475m (DC has the highest tax rate, several states don’t tax lottery winnings, among them California).

Federal tax on the $595.1M would be around $220.2M (37%), so around $375M before state taxes (if any)
Supposedly they lop off ~25% for fed taxes at payout, leaving the receiver to make up whatever else will be owed

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Backwoods Sleuth  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:14:13pm

re: #73 dat_said

I’d make some joke about you driving to renew your expired driver’s license but then I remembered that I drove to get my first driver’s license.

this is Kentucky…unless I attract attention, it’s not a problem.
In any event, MrBWS did the driving that day.

:D

109
wrenchwench  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:14:46pm

re: #106 PhillyPretzel ✅

Very Cool. Electric Lady.

And a birb!

110
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:19:03pm

re: #60 Joe Bacon ✅

1.23
Powerball is 1.23
Billions oh yes sir-ree
1.23
Billions yeah
Baby You Can See!

In unrelated lottery news
Some times you just can’t shake the itch

111
🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:21:08pm

re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg

[Embedded content]

My shocked face, etc.

Still so far above its realistic negative value. It’s a shithole that an owner throws money into.

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Skip Intro  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:22:12pm

re: #72 Charles

If what I’m reading about this bond situation is correct, the NY court is facing a test. Put up or shut up. Hold Trump accountable now.

From what I’ve read they’re giving him ANOTHER TEN DAYS to get this straightened out. Plus, from Forbes, they don’t even have the money to cover the bond!

“In its updated bond, Knight reported a surplus to policyholders of $138 million—which is basically the company’s net worth, made up of its assets minus its liabilities. Since that’s less than the $175 million that Trump owes, that means if Trump’s bond wasn’t fully secured through collateral or he couldn’t pay the amount when it came time to do so, paying off the debt could wipe out the company’s cash.”

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ckkatz  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:22:29pm

Baltimore Key Bridge Response 2/2

1. Sal Mercogliano’s Xitter is a good start if you are interested in shipping logistic issues.

2. There is a website for info on the response
keybridgeresponse2024.com

3. Baltimore port was considered the best location for shipping containers to the Northern Midwest. Places like Chicago, Detroit. It was also popular for automotive ‘stuff’. However, most of the importers for that also use other ports. Also, Baltimore’s Sparrows Point is outside the collapsed bridge area.

4. East Coast port capacity and rail capacity was already in high demand before the Key Bridge collapse.

Mercogliano Xitter post

Referenced gCaptain article

*snip*
“Container lines are rerouting their services, including Maersk and MSC, which accounted for 53% of imports to Baltimore and are also major users of Philadelphia, Norfolk and Newark,” said Chris Rogers, head of supply chain research at S&P Global Market Intelligence.
*snip*
S&P said the share of seasonal goods such as as toys and leisure goods, consumer electronics and apparel is lower at Baltimore than other regional ports, which may limit disruption during the third-quarter peak season, if access to the port continues to be challenging.
*snip*
Mr Rodgers said: “Automotive supply chains may face more of a challenge, with only the Sparrows Point terminal remaining open and expected to handle 10,000 vehicles in the next two weeks, compared with normal total monthly imports for Baltimore of 60,000 to 70,000 vehicles.
*snip*

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:24:34pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

I really hope TFG has an outburst at his trial that costs him dearly.

Won’t cost him among his base. Maybe in the courts but not with voters.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:26:10pm

Ahhh … Florida Man.
Only the best need apply …

” TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — A recruit for the Florida State Guard — a civilian military force under Gov. Ron DeSantis’ control — was removed from a Jacksonville training facility and sent to a hospital for a mental health evaluation in February after he reportedly told others he wanted to kill Jews and Palestinians and “blow up” a military base. “

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wrenchwench  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:26:13pm

Off to work. Parting gift:

Mastodon

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:30:08pm

I mean I’m not surprised but still, damn.

118
Backwoods Sleuth  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:33:26pm

re: #84 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Same way I drove my car without valid plates to the DMV to get it registered.

I did that, too, once upon a time.

119
Backwoods Sleuth  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:34:39pm

re: #89 Decatur Deb

Using it properly would shorten your life.

Life is already too short…

120
goddamnedfrank  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:35:36pm

re: #118 Backwoods Sleuth

I did that, too, once upon a time.

Me too, but I was still paranoid enough to park it in a shopping center across the street and not in the DMV lot itself.

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TedStriker  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:38:05pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

I mean I’m not surprised but still, damn.

[Embedded content]

Rittenhouse isn’t even smart enough to eat crayons like the typical jarhead.

///

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Joe Bacon ✅  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:39:59pm

re: #121 TedStriker

Rittenhouse isn’t even smart enough to eat crayons like the typical jarhead.

///

But he’s smart enough to be a GOP stooge.

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JC1  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:40:31pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

I mean I’m not surprised but still, damn.

[Embedded content]

Has this been confirmed? I’m not doubting that he’s an idiot. I’m skeptical that the email isn’t fake.

124
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:43:54pm

re: #122 Joe Bacon ✅

But he’s smart enough to be a GOP stooge.

And murder some people and get off Scott free.

125
Orange Impostor  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:46:50pm

re: #61 Decatur Deb

Do you know how pissed off I’d be to win the lottery in the last eleventh of my life?

All I know is that my bucket list would grow to be exponentially larger.

No dependents to speak of, and I sure as hell can’t take it with me.

126
ckkatz  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:48:30pm

re: #124 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Yup!

Even beyond the obvious lack of deep thinking skills…

His involvement in politically based shootings and multiple murders was likely enough to win a big “NOPE!” from the military. They already have enough problems, they don’t want a lunatic and and the attention his presence would generate.

127
goddamnedfrank  Apr 4, 2024 • 2:50:14pm

re: #123 JC1

Has this been confirmed? I’m not doubting that he’s an idiot. I’m skeptical that the email isn’t fake.

Unsure. Here’s the purported source:

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aatharuv  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:02:09pm

re: #127 goddamnedfrank

Unsure. Here’s the purported source:

[Embedded content]

It seems surprising that they would assert that he would score “far below the required minimum” on the ASVAB, rather than sticking to, “he was permanently disqualified from entering the USMC.”

For example, in the corporate world, companies can get sued if they give more than the minimum of “Yes, he worked here for n years” for a simple background check. (I’m not talking about security clearance here.)

129
goddamnedfrank  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:04:30pm

re: #128 aatharuv

It seems surprising that they would assert that he would score “far below the required minimum” on the ASVAB, rather than sticking to, “he was permanently disqualified from entering the USMC.”

Makes it clear the disqualification was for an intellectual deficiency and not a legal / moral one, which would’ve been highly relevant to the investigation.

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gocart mozart  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:10:45pm

Did you know that Joe Biden died in 2021?

131
Joe Bacon ✅  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:14:55pm

re: #130 gocart mozart

Who the fuck is that asshole claiming Joe died and was replaced by Arthur Roberts?

132
🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:20:27pm

re: #131 Joe Bacon ✅

Who the fuck is that asshole claiming Joe died and was replaced by Arthur Roberts?

Just some stupid probably-fascist guy on a Nazi sympathizer’s shitty website.

133
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:27:03pm
134
Patricia Kayden  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:32:09pm

re: #36 Mattand

Awww!! A Boxer!!

135
danarchy  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:32:34pm

re: #100 Dangerman

a+

you win a cookie

So if it was on their financials as of Q4 for last year and Trump didn’t know about the size of the initial ruling much less what the appeals court was revising it to, I don’t get what the theory is here? Trump assumed he would need the bond and happened to guess exactly the right size? Or did Knight somehow retroactively modify their Q4 financials?

136
Joe Bacon ✅  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:32:54pm

re: #133 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

We know what those two traitors will do. They will run to the asshole judge in Texas Kaczmaryk to have those subpoenas squashed.

137
Patricia Kayden  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:35:30pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

That’s okay. He killed two BLM protesters so it’s all good. The GOP love him as did the jury which let him walk away Scott free.

138
Backwoods Sleuth  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:36:10pm

re: #121 TedStriker

Rittenhouse isn’t even smart enough to eat crayons like the typical jarhead.

///

wonder if he took a hint from Ted Nugent…

139
darthstar  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:40:06pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

I mean I’m not surprised but still, damn.

[Embedded content]

That sounds like borderline illiterate scoring. A Boebert could do better than that.

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Ferdinand  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:43:28pm

re: #135 danarchy

It’s a retroactive change per up-thread. So yeah all kinds of shady …

141
darthstar  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:43:29pm

re: #135 danarchy

So if it was on their financials as of Q4 for last year and Trump didn’t know about the size of the initial ruling much less what the appeals court was revising it to, I don’t get what the theory is here? Trump assumed he would need the bond and happened to guess exactly the right size? Or did Knight somehow retroactively modify their Q4 financials?

He knew he should have made the IOU for $186 million and not $185…damnit…it almost worked.

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darthstar  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:46:18pm

re: #140 Ferdinand

It’s a retroactive change per up-thread. So yeah all kinds of shady …

So you don’t get to file a bond on behalf of Donald Trump, but you do get to select from our consolation prizes!

* A full IRS audit!
* An investigation into attempted fraud on the state of New York!
* A subpoena for all financial records and bank statements!

Nobody could have predicted a guy who makes money selling sub-prime auto loans would be as shady as Trump…

143
darthstar  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:47:13pm

Buckle up buttercup!

Mastodon

144
gocart mozart  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:48:45pm
145
goddamnedfrank  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:48:47pm

re: #140 Ferdinand

It’s a retroactive change per up-thread. So yeah all kinds of shady …

It’s also, again if true, a very weird lie because the way I read the parent company financials it seems totally unnecessary.

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darthstar  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:51:58pm

Newsweek article is good and brief…explains that because KFICKSIC (but KFIC sounds cool) isn’t in New York they need to prove they’re liquid enough to cover the bond, and also demonstrate what collateral Trump is giving them to guarantee he can cover the bond.

Mastodon

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:51:59pm

re: #145 goddamnedfrank

It’s also, again if true, a very weird lie because the way I read the parent company financials it seems totally unnecessary.

Yeah, I don’t believe it for a minute, but there’s an edge of plausibility to it simply because it’s exactly the sort of shady financial shit that Trump and a subprime car loan magnate would get up to.

148
darthstar  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:53:33pm

re: #144 gocart mozart

I always vote by mail, fill my ballot out in bed while naked, but never masturbate while doing so…I’m not one to soil a ballot…that’s just weird.

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A Cranky One  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:56:48pm

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darthstar  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:56:57pm

Mastodon

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darthstar  Apr 4, 2024 • 3:58:38pm

They probably would have accepted 100 million.

Mastodon

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 4, 2024 • 4:04:24pm

A video with a mixed message. It is unclear to me if such a video is as effective as desired:

Does “Every Little Thing” REALLY Stop Climate Change?



..

It has a bit too much us-vs-them feeling to it, I think.

The overall point does stand, that is, it’s the national policies that need to change and be enforced.

But I think telling people their individual actions don’t matter is not going to help.

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KGxvi  Apr 4, 2024 • 4:04:47pm

re: #151 darthstar

Kiss has a loyal fan base. They’ll probably sell plenty of tickets for an avatar style show. Plus there’s merchandise. And there’s royalties on the music. It’s probably not a bad investment at $300m

154
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 4, 2024 • 4:11:01pm

re: #139 darthstar

That sounds like borderline illiterate scoring. A Boebert could do better than that.

Assumption. Facts not in evidence.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 4, 2024 • 4:14:44pm

re: #153 KGxvi

Kiss has a loyal fan base. They’ll probably sell plenty of tickets for an avatar style show. Plus there’s merchandise. And there’s royalties on the music. It’s probably not a bad investment at $300m

Kiss has a dying demographic fan base.

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TedStriker  Apr 4, 2024 • 4:37:17pm

re: #151 darthstar

They probably would have accepted 100 million.

[Embedded content]

re: #153 KGxvi

Kiss has a loyal fan base. They’ll probably sell plenty of tickets for an avatar style show. Plus there’s merchandise. And there’s royalties on the music. It’s probably not a bad investment at $300m

Frankly, I’m surprised Simmons and Stanley held out this long to sell off the Kiss IP, because Simmons has been such a mercenary capitalist for decades, but I guess it makes sense once they had decided to retire (finally?) from putting on the makeup and actually going out on stage in favor of licensing out “AI” avatars for live shows.

re: #155 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Kiss has a dying demographic fan base.

Remember that licensed Kiss coffin that made the news like about 10-15 years ago?


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