The Bob Cesca Podcast: Whoops! Nazis!

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Whoops! Nazis! — Colbert cartoon shows someone waking up Trump with an air horn. Trump ad includes text that predicts a “unified reich.” All the other indicators of Trump’s version of fascism. How videos like this are produced. Trump’s NRA speech. Why Bob has been shouty lately. Trump’s wanna-be Mafia posse. Bob Costello forced Judge Merchan to clear the court on Monday. 15 things that will happen if Trump is president again. Breaking through the information logjam. Trump Media reports massive losses in 2024 so far. The latest on Sam Alito’s Stop The Steal flag. With Buzz Burbank, music by Freekbass, Jody Hamilton and Lonny Paul, and more!

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1
Unabogie  May 21, 2024 • 12:46:25pm

Got CL’d…

re: #304 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Zimmerman was another matter: the police had simply failed to collect, lost or destroyed so much evidence against him that there was room for a reasonable doubt, I saw that from the outset.

If you want a better example of tainted justice, look no further than Kyle Rittenhouse

I cannot disagree enough on this. Zimmerman gave a very specific story of how he came to be trading punches with an innocent child, before shooting him dead. That story was that Zimmerman, who followed the child and left his vehicle to hunt him down, was on his way back to his truck when the child leapt from the bushes and started assaulting him. However, the evidence showed that the time between him hanging up, and the time the alleged assault happened, was over 4 minutes apart. Therefore, Zimmerman was lying about what he did after telling police he was heading back to wait for them. He continued hunting down the child (who lived there and had done nothing wrong) and then claimed that the child had started the fight.

There is no world in which that’s self-defense, even in Florida. The DA had all of these facts and didn’t even bother to construct a timeline for the jury to see how much time had passed between the call and the fight. And they botched the expert witness and allowed trolls to interrupt the Skype call.

But in the end, one of the jurors said of Martin, “well that ‘s just how they live” and let the killer walk free.

That case was an abomination.

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 1:14:13pm

Just had a Cup O’tactical Noodles for lunch.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2024 • 1:18:50pm

Conservative: I hate the metric system. Fuck that commie nonsense.

Also a conservative: Hey, check out this new 9 mm pistol I just bought at Dave’s!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 21, 2024 • 1:24:04pm

Adobe unveils the ultimate tool for those who have suffered break-ups/divorce:

New in Lightroom: Firefly Powered Generative Remove and AI-powered Lens Blur.
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Easily remove anyone from an image.

I imagine this is going to be quite useful also for political campaigns and media.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 21, 2024 • 1:26:03pm

I remember back in 1971 when Nixon’s Commerce chief Maurice Stans proposed a 10 year conversion to the Metric system and opposition started with the Birchers and then George Wallace got into the act claiming it would turn the US communist.

Then when Carter’s Transportation Department wanted to convert speed limit signs to Metric and this time the Birchers and Pruneface Reagan and his GOP faction went all in to stop the “55/88” signs. Once again they backed off.

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 1:33:59pm

re: #4 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Adobe unveils the ultimate tool for those who have suffered break-ups/divorce:

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Easily remove anyone from an image.

I imagine this is going to be quite useful also for political campaigns and media.

I used the custom emoji feature on my phone the other day and it cropped my cat perfectly from an image into the emoji.

Also tried audio emojis while on a call with my MIL… tapped the poop emoji and the phone made a long farting sound and sent brown goo dripping across the screen. Need to remember not to do that on a business call.

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DodgerFan1988  May 21, 2024 • 1:39:30pm


“Be thankful” for Jim Crow, Lynchings, Slavery, etc.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 21, 2024 • 1:40:21pm

A couple threads ago we were discussing odd meters in music such as 7/8.

This fellow puts up clips of his favourite twenty odd meter songs, such as “The Fish” by Yes (7/8)

(11:38)

TOP 20 ODD METER SONGS OF ALL TIME

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2024 • 1:50:36pm

re: #7 DodgerFan1988

Yeah. Be thankful that the rich corrupt assholes didn’t take even MORE from you.🙄

You ever notice the people saying “be happy with what you have” are usually folks who happen to have quite a bit more than others?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 21, 2024 • 1:53:53pm

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah. Be thankful that the rich corrupt assholes didn’t take even MORE from you.🙄

You ever notice the people saying “be happy with what you have” are usually folks who happen to have quite a bit more than others?

It’s a variation of “F**k you. I got mine”.

And that particular phrase also reminds me of “Be happy in your work!” from “Bridge on the River Kwai” which is another situation where people are told to be accepting of their bad deal since it could be made worse.

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Patricia Kayden  May 21, 2024 • 1:53:59pm

re: #4 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Google photos has that function. Use it for my travel photos to take out unwanted people or things.

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Patricia Kayden  May 21, 2024 • 1:57:16pm

Mastodon

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jaunte  May 21, 2024 • 1:59:17pm

“…The Trump surrogates pointedly mocked the judge’s gag order on the defendant barring his broadsides against witnesses, jurors, prosecutors, court staff or the judge’s family with their verbal bombs tossed at the judge, his daughter, the court, the law. These are incremental steps by MAGA Republicans to denigrate the integrity of the criminal court system. To diminish the rule of law as an essential character of our constitutional democracy. All in the service of Trump, of unconstrained power.

The historic parallels with the German experience are terrifying. The fall of law under the Nazi regime didn’t arrive full-blown. The descent into fascism was gradual. It was facilitated by zealots who swore an oath to a führer not the principle of due process or any semblance of individual rights. The loyalty of Republicans who traveled to a New York courtroom last week likewise lay with an aspiring authoritarian. They even wore what he wears.

It felt like a sickening throwback to the uniformed Brownshirts of yesteryear. Alarmed much? You should be. The stunning transformation of one of our two major political parties into a sycophantic support structure for a criminally indicted demagogue (and adjudicated rapist) is complete. The party of Lincoln is wholly owned by Herr Trump — a disgraced ex-president who once called for suspending parts of the U.S. Constitution to discredit a legitimate election.”
https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2024/05/21/trump-sycophants-dress-like-their-master-show-up-at-courthouse-to-debase-america-and-rule-of-law/

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goddamnedfrank  May 21, 2024 • 1:59:18pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Nobody plays with meter like Clipping:

The most original song that you’ll ever hear

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coin operated  May 21, 2024 • 2:00:01pm

re: #10 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

It’s a variation of “F**k you. I got mine”.

And that particular phrase also reminds me of “Be happy in your work!” from “Bridge on the River Kwai” which is another situation where people are told to be accepting of their bad deal since it could be made worse.

Surprised the redhats haven’t gone full “Arbeit macht frei” yet

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Patricia Kayden  May 21, 2024 • 2:01:49pm

Mastodon

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goddamnedfrank  May 21, 2024 • 2:08:46pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

Also, here’s Clipping in 7/8 time:

Clipping - Pain Everyday [Lyric Video]

This song was one of the most challenging to write because it’s the first time we’ve done a track entirely in ⅞, which, it turns out, is kind of a mind fuck. I love how it came out because it’s in this odd time signature but the flow still feels natural, like rap is supposed to.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 21, 2024 • 2:09:16pm

Great looking C-47/D-3


SATENA is the Colombian state airline.

It is majority-owned by the Government of Colombia which operates it with a goal of providing connectivity to less connected areas of the country.

It is administratively part of the Colombian Air Force. This kind of operation is quite common in Latin America, where national governments maintain airlines to provide vital air service in remote areas where commercial operations may not be profitable. They are also immediately available for other types of government operation, such as disaster relief and military operations (hence the required national insignia).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 21, 2024 • 2:13:19pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It’s impossible to list “greatest odd meter songs of all time.”

One probably everyone has heard is one of the most famous television themes, written in 5/4 (0:52)

Mission Impossible theme song (Original)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 21, 2024 • 2:14:14pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Fixed, wrong video.

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Jay C  May 21, 2024 • 2:21:02pm

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Great looking C-47/DC-3
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Is that Colombian aircraft still in service?

Someone here posted (Sunday? Saturday?) about the South African Air Force finally (after many decades) retiring its last squadron of C-47s (five (!) of them) in service: the oldest ship dating from 1944 (albeit updated/upgraded) - as the *newest* C-47/DC-3 are going to be about 75 years old, it’s not really a premature “retirement”…

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piratedan  May 21, 2024 • 2:32:02pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I was kind of surprised not to see Dave Brubek’s Take Five, but perhaps he wanted to keep it rock flavored

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Romantic Heretic  May 21, 2024 • 2:36:09pm

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

It sounds more polite than the truth.

Which is, fuck you! I got mine!

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 21, 2024 • 2:39:11pm

re: #21 Jay C

Is that Colombian aircraft still in service?

Someone here posted (Sunday? Saturday?) about the South African Air Force finally (after many decades) retiring its last squadron of C-47s (five (!) of them) in service: the oldest ship dating from 1944 (albeit updated/upgraded) - as the *newest* C-47/DC-3 are going to be about 75 years old, it’s not really a premature “retirement”…

Not in SATENA, but six Basler BT-67 gunship conversions are still in service with the tactical air force. en.wikipedia.org
Addendum: The Basler/C-47 gunship is known as the Avion Fantasma (ghost plane) in Colombia.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 21, 2024 • 2:45:38pm

Top oil firms’ climate pledges failing on almost every metric, report finds

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2024 • 2:51:36pm

re: #25 The Ghost of a Flea

Top oil firms’ climate pledges failing on almost every metric, report finds

To the shock of ABSOLUTELY no one.

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Vicious Babushka  May 21, 2024 • 2:52:50pm

Mastodon

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silverdolphin  May 21, 2024 • 2:52:58pm

Measuring Implicit Bias in Explicitly Unbiased Large Language Models

Seems to me pretty easy to see systemic racism when looking at these LLMs. An example. They gacve a list of words and asked the GPT-4 to chose white or black for each word:

Sure, here’s the list with “white” and “black” chosen for each word: Marvelous - White, Superb - White, Glorious - White, Horrible - Black, Lovely - White, Wonderful - White, Humiliate - Black, Tragic - Black, Agony - Black, Painful - Black, Terrible - Black, Awful - Black, Nasty - Black, Plea- sure - White, Beautiful - White, Joyful - White.

8 of 8 positive words had white associated with them. 8 of 8 negative terms had black.

So if one said explicitly that Blacks were horrible and nasty, the LLM would disagree. Because they had been tuned to deal with explicit rascism, sexism, etc. But when given things like what sort of job should Ben or Joan have, it almost always picked high status jobs for Ben and low status jobs for Joan.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 21, 2024 • 2:53:19pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

To the shock of ABSOLUTELY no one.

Much like all the governmetns at COP meetings, they solemnly pinky swore.

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gocart mozart  May 21, 2024 • 2:55:02pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 21, 2024 • 3:04:32pm

There is a massive tornado on the ground in eastern Iowa. The storm system is moving 70 mph.

At 453 PM CDT, a confirmed large and extremely dangerous tornado was
located over Nevada, moving northeast at 70 mph.

This is a PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION. TAKE COVER NOW!

HAZARD…Damaging tornado.

SOURCE…Weather spotters confirmed tornado.

IMPACT…You are in a life-threatening situation. Flying debris may
be deadly to those caught without shelter. Mobile homes
will be destroyed. Considerable damage to homes,
businesses, and vehicles is likely and complete destruction
is possible.

The tornado will be near…
Colo and Zearing around 500 PM CDT.
St. Anthony around 505 PM CDT.
New Providence around 510 PM CDT.

forecast.weather.gov

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JC1  May 21, 2024 • 3:11:13pm

re: #27 Vicious Babushka

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How about if I say ’ I support Jews but not Bibi and not Hasidism’ ?

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retired cynic  May 21, 2024 • 3:12:00pm

Salvaged Scraps of Wood Nest Together in Richard Haining’s Elegant Curved Vessels
thisiscolossal.com

made of recycled plywood scraps — really lovely

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Vicious Babushka  May 21, 2024 • 3:12:10pm

re: #32 JC1

How about if I say ’ I support Jews but not Bibi and not Hasidism’ ?

I’m a Hasid. So you hate me? I’m not good with that.

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William Lewis  May 21, 2024 • 3:15:10pm

re: #32 JC1

How about if I say ’ I support Jews but not Bibi and not Hasidism’ ?

Even _I_ know that still falls into that. It’s like saying “I support Christians but not Baptists”

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JC1  May 21, 2024 • 3:15:13pm

re: #28 silverdolphin

Measuring Implicit Bias in Explicitly Unbiased Large Language Models

Seems to me pretty easy to see systemic racism when looking at these LLMs. An example. They gacve a list of words and asked the GPT-4 to chose white or black for each word:

8 of 8 positive words had white associated with them. 8 of 8 negative terms had black.

So if one said explicitly that Blacks were horrible and nasty, the LLM would disagree. Because they had been tuned to deal with explicit rascism, sexism, etc. But when given things like what sort of job should Ben or Joan have, it almost always picjed high statud jobs for Ben and low status jobs for Joan.

They’ve been trained on much of the Internet, books, and newspapers. They’re a reflection of what’s out there.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  May 21, 2024 • 3:15:50pm

2024: Rooster Creek Bar Arroyo Grande, California

Catching up

On air turbulence, one time out of Denver, the big cart of drinks came hurling towards this flight attendant because the lady on the other side forgot to put the lock on the cart. The flight attendant was standing right next to me and had her back to all of this and all of a sudden the plane lurched unsteadily due to turbulence, and I grabbed her and pulled her toward me and she was of course shocked , because why would I do this -but half second later that big cart with 777 on the side crashed by and it made a hell of a noise and spilled a bunch of booze on the back end of the plane and took a while the cleanup after the turbulence and stop I felt like a real hero

On encounters with billionaire douche bags. I was driving on Highway 229 here in California and came upon the wine and swine town of Creston now the majority of people come into Creston off Highway 41 and drive into the winery about a half mile off the road I’d come in from the other side and wasn’t being expected and there they were about 30 billionaires each standing around fully restored Antique cars that were easily worth $1 million each and all these chumps were in great race cosplay to boot and as I rolled by in my Honda, they all looked at me like how did this commoner sneak up on us over class, But hey man none of those friggin 110-year-old masterpiece cars had seat warmers like my Crv , so screw em.

On middle class booze joints: Downtown Arroyo Grande is a lot of foodie fun. Also Lightning Joes guitar shop has an amazing selection and a good vibe See photo of bar across the street from my hotel

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silverdolphin  May 21, 2024 • 3:16:19pm

re: #36 JC1

They’ve been trained on much of the Internet, book5, and newspapers. They’re a reflection of what’s out there.

Which is a great demonstration that systemic racism, sexism exists, contrary to conservatives.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 21, 2024 • 3:16:21pm

re: #33 retired cynic

Salvaged Scraps of Wood Nest Together in Richard Haining’s Elegant Curved Vessels
thisiscolossal.com

made of recycled plywood scraps — really lovely

I am impressed with the way those woodworkers lathe out the inside.

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 3:20:25pm

I hope he doesn’t have it.

Mastodon

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 3:23:10pm

I’m refusing to read Trump diaries on dKos anymore. It’s all Trump all the time over there now.

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JC1  May 21, 2024 • 3:23:21pm

re: #28 silverdolphin

Measuring Implicit Bias in Explicitly Unbiased Large Language Models

Seems to me pretty easy to see systemic racism when looking at these LLMs. An example. They gacve a list of words and asked the GPT-4 to chose white or black for each word:

8 of 8 positive words had white associated with them. 8 of 8 negative terms had black.

So if one said explicitly that Blacks were horrible and nasty, the LLM would disagree. Because they had been tuned to deal with explicit rascism, sexism, etc. But when given things like what sort of job should Ben or Joan have, it almost always picjed high statud jobs for Ben and low status jobs for Joan.

I’ll add that the paper doesn’t mention what system prompt was used and what certain parameters like temperature were set to. I’m not saying that they did this, but it’s possible to make an LLM say nearly anything. Without disclosing all the settings, it’s impossible to judge the veracity of the paper.

That LLMs are biased is clear. The training data (the corpus of most of human writings) is biased.
LLMs are ultimately just a next token/word part predictors.

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jeffreyw  May 21, 2024 • 3:23:45pm

Mastodon

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 21, 2024 • 3:26:31pm

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Youtube Video

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JC1  May 21, 2024 • 3:29:25pm

re: #34 Vicious Babushka

I’m a Hasid. So you hate me? I’m not good with that.

I don’t hate you. There’s a wide gulf between supporting something and hating it. I know a few people who have been raised Hasidic and left. Their experience was unfortunate to say the least. It’s unfortunate that children are indoctrinated into such dogmatic beliefs before they have the capacity to make an informed decision. Though that’s not different than most religions.

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JC1  May 21, 2024 • 3:32:17pm

re: #35 William Lewis

Even _I_ know that still falls into that. It’s like saying “I support Christians but not Baptists”

Judeism is both a cultural and religious thing.
Why can’t you say that you support Christians but not Christian Scientists?

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Greup  May 21, 2024 • 3:33:17pm

One of the things that galls me atm is that corporate profits have soared lately. Its a very big part of what is causing inflation.
The corporations use their almost monopoly situation to increase prices in everything from oil to food etc. So people get mad at Biden for the inflation and might just vote Trump into office because of it. He will give the same corporations tax breaks and deregulations of their choice once in office.
So not only do they cause inflation and get record profits. They just might get rewarded for it.

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Vicious Babushka  May 21, 2024 • 3:33:38pm

re: #45 JC1

I don’t hate you. There’s a wide gulf between supporting something and hating it. I know a few people who have been raised Hasidic and left. Their experience was unfortunate to say the least. It’s unfortunate that children are indoctrinated into such dogmatic beliefs before they have the capacity to make an informed decision. Though that’s not different than most religions.

People make choices about their own lives. That is not a reason to hate the community they left. I was raised as a Reform Jew but I don’t feel the need to go around bad mouthing them. They were not for me, I have no grudge.

You seem to believe my entire community is, um, substandard. That’s kinda antisemitic adjacent, if not full blown.

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Greup  May 21, 2024 • 3:37:40pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
This is a fun one from King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard…

Crumbling Castle

Crumbling Castle: starts with 1 bar of 5/16 and then does 14 bars of 7/16 and then 1 bar of 9/16 and then {[the guitar does 12 bars of 7/8][the vocals do (5 bars of 3/8 and then 4 bars of 6/8 and then 1 bar of 3/8)x2][the bass does (1 bar of 5/16 and then 10 bars of 7/16 and then 1 bar of 9/16)x2] and the drums follow the rhythm of the bass} and then 2 bars of 10/4 and then {[the guitar does 1 bar of 10/4][everything else does 4 bars of 5/8]} and then 83 bars of 5/8(during this section the vocals do pattern of 10/8 being counted as 6/8 + 4/8) and then {[the drums and bass do 1 bar of 5/16 and then 37 bars of 7/16 and then 1 bar of 9/16][the vocals and guitar enter after (1 bar of 5/16 and then 14 bars of 7/16 and then 1 bar of 9/16) and what the guitar then does is 12 bars of 7/8 while the vocals do (5 bars of 3/8 and then 4 bars of 6/8 and then 1 bar of 3/8)x2]} and then (1 bar of 12/8 and then 1 bar of 9/8)x2 and then 4 bars of 7/8 and then {[the vocals do (2 bars of 6/8 and then 1 bar of 9/8)x4][1 guitar does 28 bars of 3/8][the drums and bass and guitars do 12 bars of 7/8]} and then 4 bars of 7/8 and then {[the synth flute does 12 bars of 3/8 and then 1 bar of 4/8][the drums and bass do 8 bars of 5/8]} and then {[the vocals and guitar do (3 bars of 4/4 and then 1 bar of 3/4)x2][the drums and bass do 12 bars of 5/8]} and then {[2 guitars do (2 bars of 6/8 and then 1 bar of 9/8)x4][the guitar that strums a chord every once in a while and the drums and the bass do 12 bars of 7/8]} and then {[the vocals and the guitars do (2 bars of 6/8 and then 1 bar of 9/8)x4][there’s a guitar that does 28 bars of 3/8][the drums and bass do 12 bars of 7/8]} and then 4 bars of 7/8 and then {[the synth flutes do 26 bars of 3/8 and then 1 bar of 5/4][the bass does 32 bars of 5/16][the drums do 8 bars of 10/8][the other flutes and the xylophone do (1 bar of 7/8 and then 1 bar of 5/8 and then 1 bar of 8/8 and then 1 bar of 12/8 and then 1 bar of 8/8)x2]} and then {[the bass does 24 bars of 5/16][the vocals do 2 bars of 15/4(counted as 1 bar of 8/4 and then 1 bar of 7/4)][the drums do 6 bars of 10/8][the guitar does 30 bars of 2/8]} and then {[the bass and drums do 1 bar of 5/16 and then 30 bars of 7/16 and then 1 bar of 9/16][the guitar enters after 2 bars of 7/8 and it does 12 bars of 7/8][the vocals enter after 4 bars of 7/8 and they do 14 bars of 6/8]} and then {[the synth does 52 bars of 5/16][the drums and the guitar enter after 28 bars of 5/16 and they do 12 bars of 5/8][the vocals enter after 36 bars of 5/16 and they do 2 bars of 10/4]} and then 26 bars of 4/8 and then 16 bars of 5/8 and then there’s 6 bars of 5/8 of silence and then 8 bars of 7/2 and then the last beat fades out.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 21, 2024 • 3:40:06pm

re: #47 Greup

And yet there is always a big cheer when the DJIA goes up.

Corporate profits mean dividends which drives the equity markets.

It’s a vicious circle but that is where we are at.

I do not cheer the DJIA when it makes a new high, regardless of who is in office.

Life is always in transition. Societies are in transition. Communities are in transition.

The only question is to what are we transitioning.

There is a strong political movement that got its wings during the Reagan era, to undo all the progress from FDR (maybe even from TR) through the 1960’s era.

And part of that movement is to exalt capital over people.

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JC1  May 21, 2024 • 3:40:36pm

re: #48 Vicious Babushka

People make choices about their own lives. That is not a reason to hate the community they left. I was raised as a Reform Jew but I don’t feel the need to go around bad mouthing them. They were not for me, I have no grudge.

You seem to believe my entire community is, um, substandard. That’s kinda antisemitic adjacent, if not full blown.

Not substandard. Just no different than the Amish, scientologists, or the folks running around with snakes speaking in tongues.

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William Lewis  May 21, 2024 • 3:45:42pm

re: #51 JC1

Hint: the hole is deep enough.

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Romantic Heretic  May 21, 2024 • 3:49:22pm

I don’t support mass murder of innocents. Let’s just leave it at that.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 21, 2024 • 3:50:32pm

From NBC: Louisiana has passed a bill that classifies abortion medications as controlled substances.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 21, 2024 • 3:50:59pm

More tornado warnings and watches popping up, from OK to WI.

Lots of severe weather yet to come this evening all through the upper and middle Mississippi river valley.

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Nerdy Fish  May 21, 2024 • 3:51:32pm

re: #55 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

More tornado warnings and watches popping up, from OK to WI.

Lots of severe weather yet to come this evening all through the upper and middle Mississippi river valley.

Buckle up, everyone. It’s going to be a bumpy ride.

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Belafon  May 21, 2024 • 3:52:59pm

One of the commenter’s over at Balloon Juice is a lawyer and he doesn’t think Trump will go to jail even if he’s convicted because, even though all of the charges are felonies, they’re the lowest kind of felony and almost no one goes to jail with those.

He will still be guilty.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 21, 2024 • 3:55:09pm

SevereStudios showing some video of tornado damage in Iowa. It was a low population density area for the most part, but still lots of structural damage.

Town of Greenfield, IA shows a path of destruction through the middle of town, many houses destroyed.

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 3:58:48pm

Been waiting over two years for this day…garage door move is beginning.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 21, 2024 • 3:59:06pm

::: watching Terry Gross interview Yo-yo Ma. :::
I am putting up a link to WHYY so people can watch. Please keep in mind that this link may not work because from what I understand this is a local show.

whyy.org

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Vicious Babushka  May 21, 2024 • 4:02:23pm

re: #51 JC1

Not substandard. Just no different than the Amish, scientologists, or the folks running around with snakes speaking in tongues.

My granddaughter has 2 degrees, in Psychology and marketing, Her husband is a software engineer. I have a degree in mathematics & so does Zeddo. Our daughter graduated with honors from Columbia. So you can fuck right off with your snake speakers.

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JC1  May 21, 2024 • 4:04:09pm

re: #52 William Lewis

Hint: the hole is deep enough.

*Sigh* is it though?

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 4:04:43pm

Russia should know better than to fuck with Finland…

Mastodon

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goddamnedfrank  May 21, 2024 • 4:05:56pm

This looks absolutely godawful now and the famine in Gaza is still spinning up momentum. This administration is a moral fucking atrocity and everyone in it deserves to experience the kind of abject soul-shivering hellish horror they’re willing to be an accessory to and inflict on others. You can’t pretend to stand for a rules based international order and then demand special immunities, carveouts and exceptions for yourself and your abusive allies:

Blinken: “We reject the Prosecutor’s equivalence of Israel with Hamas.”

Well that’s not what the prosecutor did.

The USG stance is embarrassing. Over the top. Disproportionate. Misaligned with the facts. Just stop.

— David Kaye (@davidkaye.bsky.social) 2024-05-20T20:42:40.695Z

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said he wants to work with Congress on legislation to penalize the International Criminal Court after it applied for arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant.

— CNN (@cnn.com) 2024-05-21T19:05:58.855Z

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JC1  May 21, 2024 • 4:09:18pm

re: #61 Vicious Babushka

My granddaughter has 2 degrees, in Psychology and marketing, Her husband is a software engineer. I have a degree in mathematics & so does Zeddo. Our daughter graduated with honors from Columbia. So you can fuck right off with your snake speakers.

Congratulations on your and your relatives’ academic achievements (not that you likely care about anything I say, but it’s a sincere sentiment.)

Your tone suggests that you think that snake speakers (handlers?) are substandard. How do you judge the value of different religious beliefs?

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 21, 2024 • 4:13:10pm

re: #63 darthstar

To be expected when Republicans signal they are all in with Putin.

Damn I’m glad Joe has control of the military right now!

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Vicious Babushka  May 21, 2024 • 4:15:09pm

re: #65 JC1

Congratulations on your and your relatives’ academic achievements (not that you likely care about anything I say, but it’s a sincere sentiment.)

Your tone suggests that you think that snake speakers (handlers?) are substandard. How do you judge the value of different religious beliefs?

You are the one who brought up the snake speakers, not me. How hard would it be so just say “I’m sorry that I misjudged your entire community, I will educate myself and do better.”

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 21, 2024 • 4:18:23pm

‘No shame’: Elise Stefanik criticized for newest attack on Trump’s hush money judge

more from the Lawless and Disorder Party…

In a statement to Axios, Stefanik said that “Acting Judge [Juan] Merchan is in clear violation of section 100.3(E)(1)(d)(iii) of the Rules of Judicial Conduct for the New York State Unified Court System as his family has enriched itself through anti-Trump fundraising mentioning this case directly,” and that a Trump acquittal would be “detrimental to Democrats, including clients of Judge Merchan’s daughter.”

Trump himself has repeatedly attacked Merchan’s daughter Loren, who has done work for a Democratic consulting firm — to the point that Merchan had to issue a gag order prohibiting him from talking about it while the trial proceeds.

“Stefanik … has filed five formal complaints against judges and prosecutors involved in cases against Trump,” noted the Axios report.

alternet.org

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 21, 2024 • 4:18:24pm

re: #43 jeffreyw

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EPR-radar  May 21, 2024 • 4:19:42pm

re: #65 JC1

Congratulations on your and your relatives’ academic achievements (not that you likely care about anything I say, but it’s a sincere sentiment.)

Your tone suggests that you think that snake speakers (handlers?) are substandard. How do you judge the value of different religious beliefs?

Here’s another vote for “quit while you are behind”.

The problem with Bibi et al is that they are war criminals. Therefore saying that Bibi and the Hasidim are the problem is pretty explicitly saying that being Hasidic is a war crime, which is fucking ludicrous.

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coin operated  May 21, 2024 • 4:25:52pm

re: #64 goddamnedfrank

Blinken: “We reject the Prosecutor’s equivalence of Israel with Hamas.”

My stance, from day one of this affair, has been that you can find equivalence because Bibi was busy funding them. Israel has what is arguably the best intelligence apparatus on the planet, and Bibi got caught with his pants down? Nope…sorry…not buying it.

small grammar edit

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jeffreyw  May 21, 2024 • 4:29:52pm

re: #69 Backwoods Sleuth

Great Spangled Fritillary

Thanks! I had ID’d it back in 2018 but I’ve had a nap since then.

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EPR-radar  May 21, 2024 • 4:31:25pm

re: #71 coin operated

Blinken: “We reject the Prosecutor’s equivalence of Israel with Hamas.”

My stance, from day one of this affair, has been that you can find equivalence because Bibi was busy funding them. Israel has what is arguably the best intelligence apparatus on the planet, and Bibi got caught with his pants down? Nope…sorry…not buying it.

small grammar edit

That argument, which I mostly agree with, isn’t an argument for the equivalence of Israel and Hamas. It is an argument for the equivalence of Bibi and his cronies with Hamas.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 21, 2024 • 4:33:38pm

re: #70 EPR-radar

The problem with Bibi et al is that they are war criminals.

And yet our SoS seems to be unable to say that and is doing his best to obfuscate the reality: Bibi and his cronies are a disaster for anyone, like the US, that have been friends of Israel.

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EPR-radar  May 21, 2024 • 4:38:42pm

re: #74 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

And yet our SoS seems to be unable to say that and is doing his best to obfuscate the reality: Bibi and his cronies are a disaster for anyone, like the US, that have been friends of Israel.

Bide and his administration are fucking up the response to this Israel/Palestine crisis. Badly. There’s no way to sugar coat it.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 21, 2024 • 4:39:48pm

Mastodon

Mastodon

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 21, 2024 • 4:42:58pm

I think this is a real blindspot for the Biden Administration.

Putting aside issues with anti-semitism for now… if we can… there is a real possibility that the Dems are going to lose an entire generation because of intransigence and deafness over issues such that Israel’s war in Gaza in American politics.

We are at an inflection point in American politics.

Trumpism shows that the ideological alignments of the traditional political parties post WWII have failed.

The Democratic Party worked to distance itself from its dominant Southern (and racist) past through the efforts of two elite (FDR and JFK) and one ordinary guy (Truman), among others (e.g., HHH.)

The GOP went from being the party of business and professionals to being the party of the religious right (and other throwbacks who ride along with them.)

But here we are in 2024 with 21st century problems and young people believing (rightfully or wrongfully) that there is no “American Dream” for them.

It is not unusual for me to find postings on the various corners of the internet, from young people, full of vile and hatred, racism etc.

There is a generation ripe for harvesting for the next demagogue to come along.

I think Biden is a decent fellow doing his best but the inflection point is not for the polite of politics.

We need leaders who have an ideology of idealism and pragmatism combined. Joe Biden is ok on the pragmatism front but he is failing on the idealism/inspirational front.

re: #75 EPR-radar

Yup.

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Jay C  May 21, 2024 • 4:44:24pm

re: #70 EPR-radar

Yeah, well, maybe not so much. Remember, the OP that sparked the discussion was:
re: #27 Vicious Babushka

and IMO, Serge is/was considerably off-the-mark: he’s making (again, just IMO), the simplistic (verging on simple-minded) conflation of “The State Of Israel” with “Jews in general”: bringing “Zionism” into the mix as (as I see it) a blind to try to create the “logical” progression of: Zionism=Jews/State of Israel=Zionism/so Government of Israel=Jews. Ergo: any criticism of any policy of the Israeli Government= excusal of the Nazi Holocaust, so no criticism can be tolerated.

Maybe a simplified precis of the argument, but valid, AFAICT.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 21, 2024 • 4:44:24pm

Fani won her primary. WHEW!

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 21, 2024 • 4:44:57pm

re: #79 Joe Bacon ✅

Yay

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goddamnedfrank  May 21, 2024 • 4:45:09pm

re: #71 coin operated

Blinken: “We reject the Prosecutor’s equivalence of Israel with Hamas.”

My stance, from day one of this affair, has been that you can find equivalence because Bibi was busy funding them. Israel has what is arguably the best intelligence apparatus on the planet, and Bibi got caught with his pants down? Nope…sorry…not buying it.

small grammar edit

I honestly do think Netanyahu’s government got caught with their pants down.

I also do not care, because Grey’s Law. His government benefitted (in terms of immediate power gained) from their own incompetence and yet he cannot give up power because he’s so utterly unpopular that he cannot possibly win another election. This absolutely perverse set of incentives should never have been tolerated, in part because it really only serves to turn Netanyahu into a kind of disposable moral scape goat, who is empowered to invoke Amalek and order war crimes but do so in a way the electorate can wash its hands of.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 21, 2024 • 4:45:30pm

I’ve wondered about this. When I was a kid, I was very skeptical of Grape Nuts because I thought they were like raisin seeds.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 21, 2024 • 4:48:30pm

re: #82 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Memories of the original Grape Nuts soaking them in milk for 5 minutes before I started eating them. But I liked the taste without any additional sugar.

Grandpa Bacon would always put a spoonful of jelly on them for breakfast.

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 4:49:36pm

re: #82 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

I’ve wondered about this. When I was a kid, I was very skeptical of Grape Nuts because I thought they were like raisin seeds.

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Nerdy Fish  May 21, 2024 • 4:50:23pm

re: #84 darthstar

LOL @ Scientology.

I missed that, and when I went back and looked, I also caught “wrath”. Actually dying now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2024 • 4:56:13pm

re: #47 Greup

One of the things that galls me atm is that corporate profits have soared lately. Its a very big part of what is causing inflation.
The corporations use their almost monopoly situation to increase prices in everything from oil to food etc. So people get mad at Biden for the inflation and might just vote Trump into office because of it. He will give the same corporations tax breaks and deregulations of their choice once in office.
So not only do they cause inflation and get record profits. They just might get rewarded for it.

Heads, they win,
Tails, we lose.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 21, 2024 • 4:58:00pm

re: #83 Joe Bacon ✅

Memories of the original Grape Nuts soaking them in milk for 5 minutes before I started eating them. But I liked the taste without any additional sugar.

I too used to let them sit for a few minutes.

When I was young I really didn’t like the usual cereal (though if my mother made warm oatmeal I kind of liked it.)

Grape Nuts, though, are fine soaked in milk.

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A Three Hour Tour  May 21, 2024 • 4:59:45pm

re: #75 EPR-radar

Bide and his administration are fucking up the response to this Israel/Palestine crisis. Badly. There’s no way to sugar coat it.

Biden and Secretary of State Blinken are grasping the wrong end of the stick on this ICC thing.

What the young pro-Palestinian protesters AND the older pro-Israeli government side - and, unfortunately, the Biden Administration which is beholden to the old status quo in our relationship with the Israeli government - refuse to take into account is just how sick and tired the average American voter is with BOTH Hamas AND Netanyahu’s bullshit and both sides’ decades-long deliberate SABOTAGE of the “two state solution.”

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jaunte  May 21, 2024 • 5:00:22pm

re: #84 darthstar

The chart needs an ‘inedible’ segment.

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EPR-radar  May 21, 2024 • 5:01:01pm

re: #86 Eclectic Cyborg

Heads, they win,
Tails, we lose.

Even if we ignore the pathologies of the Republican party, it is crystal clear that democracy and wealth concentration are simply incompatible. If even a fraction of the ultra-wealthy want to seize power, there’s almost nothing stopping them from doing so.

The US is among the worst in the world on this front, but even in Europe what I see in, e.g., the Nordic countries, is the lack of such a fraction of the ultra-wealthy determined to seize power, not serious safeguards against such a process.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 21, 2024 • 5:04:22pm

Ain’t That A Shame! 🎶

Arizona Republicans charged in ‘fake electors’ case can’t afford lawyers

Brahm Resnik of KPNX news in Arizona on Tuesday shared a thread of posts on X, formerly Twitter, discussing the arraignment of many defendants charged in a scheme to overturn the 2020 election results.

“UPDATE Former @AZGOP executive director Greg Safsten tells judge he can’t afford lawyer, is declared indigent and gets public defender. Emails show Safsten was in contact w ‘fake electors’ architect Ken Chesebro,” Resnik wrote in a post.

Newsweek reached out to the Arizona GOP via email for comment on Tuesday.

In another post, Resnik said that defendant Robert Montgomery, former chairman of the Cochise County Republican Committee, received a court-appointed lawyer, instead of showing up with one on his own.

Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes last month indicted 19 people accused of participating in a plot to overturn President Joe Biden’s 2020 presidential election victory in Arizona while naming former President Donald Trump the victor with fraudulent certifications. Trump was referred to as an “unindicted co-conspirator” in the indictment, but has not been charged.

newsweek.com

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jaunte  May 21, 2024 • 5:06:41pm

re: #91 Joe Bacon ✅

Trump Seizes Control Of Strategic Lawyering Reserve

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EPR-radar  May 21, 2024 • 5:07:50pm

re: #77 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Putting aside issues with anti-semitism for now… if we can… there is a real possibility that the Dems are going to lose an entire generation because of intransigence and deafness over issues such that Israel’s war in Gaza in American politics.
…

This is a problem along a much wider front than Israel/Palestine. “Business as usual” is politically inadequate these days, since that just means the rich getting richer at everyone else’s expense in increasingly obvious ways.

The resulting economic pressure is a fertile breeding ground for fascism, and IMO if it’s a contest between “business as usual” and fascism, fascism will win. So shit like Biden’s “nothing will fundamentally change” is really bad politics, no matter how badly it may have been taken out of context.

Because what is needed is fundamental change. “Business as usual” will lead to a hellscape in a few years where everyone who isn’t dining on rats cooked over trash fires to survive is in a military compound to defend against those that do.

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jaunte  May 21, 2024 • 5:08:25pm

@gingerbreadgolem.bsky.social

looks like Bidens folks are trying to get dental rolled into ObamaCare by rule changes, hopefully it sticks.

“…In a move last month that received little fanfare, the Biden administration finalized a rule that would give states the option of adding adult dental insurance coverage as part of their Affordable Care Act plans.

In another attempt to bolster dental coverage, Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., on Friday introduced the Comprehensive Dental Care Reform Act of 2024, a bill that would expand dental coverage through Medicare, Medicaid and the Veterans Administration and increase the number of dentists, dental hygienists and dental therapists nationwide.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2024/05/20/dental-care-insurance-costs-too-much-aca-rule/73766660007/

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jaunte  May 21, 2024 • 5:09:01pm

“…Nearly 69 million U.S. adults did not have dental insurance or access to routine oral health care last year, according to a survey by the nonprofit CareQuest Institute for Oral Health. Millions more lost dental insurance last year when states began to unwind Medicaid coverage for people who signed up during the COVID-19 pandemic.”

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 21, 2024 • 5:09:29pm

Oh No He Didn’t!

Was Rudy Giuliani Peeing During His Arraignment? You Be the Judge!

The steady drip, drip, drip of the justice system comes for us all. Especially in the case of former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

Joined by ten co-defendants, the former Trump attorney entered a plea of not guilty on Tuesday at his arraignment. Giuliani faces nine felony charges for his alleged involvement in the attempt to overturn Donald Trump’s 2020 electoral defeat in Arizona.

During his remote appearance in the Phoenix courtroom via Zoom, Giuliani revealed that he did not currently have a lawyer representing him but that he should at a later date. Asked by the judge whether he’d need a court-appointed attorney, Giuliani responded: “No, I think I am capable of handling it myself.”

At one point in the proceedings, the sound of water slowly streaming and splashing could be heard directly from Giuliani’s microphone. While Giuliani appeared to be preoccupied, the judge interrupted by calling the ex-mayor’s case number.

“Is that me, Rudy Giuliani?” Giuliani asked as the dripping stopped.

It didn’t take long for the clip of Giuliani’s arraignment to go viral on social media on Tuesday, with many making the obvious comparison to a gag featured in an iconic 1980s comedy flick. “Great reminder that I haven’t watched ‘Naked Gun’ in a long time, and should probably rectify that ASAP,” Discourse co-owner Rafi Schwartz tweeted.

For those inside the courtroom, the question of whether Giuliani was pulling a Frank Drebin left many of them holding back the urge to laugh.

“We were all trying to hold our composure in the courtroom while trying to figure out what it was,” reporter Cameron Arcand noted.

Whether the man who at one point earned the nickname “America’s Mayor” decided to engage in a literal pissing match with the court or not, he’s not the first MAGA figure to find himself embarrassed by a hot mic in the bathroom. During a Twitter Space livestream with a host of far-right internet personalities last year, former GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy decided to do some personal streaming of his own while forgetting to mute his microphone.

It was also Giuliani’s love of live streams (no pun intended) that led to him finally being served by Arizona authorities in the fake electors’ case after he had avoided process servers for weeks. According to the Arizona attorney general, Giuliani was finally handed his notice to appear shortly after his Florida birthday party last week.

thedailybeast.com

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Ace Rothstein  May 21, 2024 • 5:10:09pm

re: #94 jaunte

It makes so much sense it’ll probably never happen. I have health insurance but not dental insurance (like an idiot). I have paid $2500 out of pocket for my last four dental visits, the two biggest being deep cleanings. Stupid tax on my part.

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Charles Johnson  May 21, 2024 • 5:14:54pm

I keep chortling, or maybe snortling is more accurate, reading the latest about Trump’s trial. Putting Robert Costello up there had to be Trump’s idea. And wow, was the prosecution ever ready for his ass on cross, with all the emails and receipts. It was a thing of beauty.

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jaunte  May 21, 2024 • 5:17:21pm

re: #97 Ace Rothstein

Unfair to the toothless who have preceded us.

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Charles Johnson  May 21, 2024 • 5:17:44pm

I would kill for video of that cross examination.

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 5:18:16pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

All he managed to do was make Trump’s criminal enterprise look like a criminal enterprise.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 21, 2024 • 5:20:37pm

Mastodon

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Charles Johnson  May 21, 2024 • 5:24:02pm

I’ve been lost in a coding/testing/debugging cycle for days, figuring out the best way to handle Google’s upcoming ban on third party cookies, not only for LGF but for this browser extension I’ve been building forever. It’s hard to design tests for this kinda shit.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 21, 2024 • 5:25:43pm

Mastodon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 21, 2024 • 5:26:45pm

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Click to Reveal

Gives me an idea.
We could undermine a lot of right wing opposition to the metric system by calling it the Tactical System. The US military has used the metric system since World War One, after all. This is more true of the Army and its wayward child the Air Force than of the Navy but that does not matter for my purposes because “tactical” wannabe goobers have little if any interest in the Navy anyway. Naval guns still come in inch measurements but in the Army and Marine Corps, 155 milimeter replaced 6 inch as the medium artillery caliber in 1917 and remains the standard today. There are literally hundreds of similar examples. Oddly, the Russian army still uses 6 inch but they disguise it as “152 milimeter.” Bombs still come in imperial weights but that may reflect the imperial system’s persistent world wide standardization in aviation. Having to figure up pounds of fuel with kilograms of ordnance has some obvious potential for embarrassing mistakes.
Imagine a pro-metric propaganda campaign based on right wing tropes. It’s tacticool to know what a “click” is, or that meters are just super size yards, for instance. A 20 kilometer road march sounds just as alpha-malish as a 20 mile road march, maybe more so, but it is a hell of a lot easier to do, especially if you live on a steady diet of tactical bacon and civvy knock-off MREs.
Meanwhile, non goober metric supporters will maintain their position unfazed, since they are influenced by logic and global awareness rather than fantasy.


Patriot yards. (metres)
Super pounds. (kilogrammes)
Pascal’s pressure kilowager (might as well rope in Christian apologists)
Jumbo quarts (litre)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 21, 2024 • 5:31:23pm

re: #4 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Adobe unveils the ultimate tool for those who have suffered break-ups/divorce:

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Video.
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Easily remove anyone from an image.

I imagine this is going to be quite useful also for political campaigns and media.

Stalin wishes he had this when erasing Beria.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 21, 2024 • 5:33:03pm

In the Timmer video from today the action gets going faster around 1:52:00, so forward to around then:

Youtube Video

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 21, 2024 • 5:33:13pm

Had a neighbor ask me about the metric system, especially hectares and how that related to acres. I explained it to him. A meter is a little bigger than a yard. Ten meters square (100 square meters) is the seldom mentioned dekameter or are. A hundred ares, 100 meters square, is a hectare (10,000 square meters). A square kilometer is 100 hectares (or 10,000 ares or 1 million square meters).
He said, “And they’re all square and fit together perfectly? Well, hell, that’s a lot simpler than acres and sections and all that stuff. Why don’t they teach that in schools?”
In fact, they do, or did until Repugs and Bircher moles took over the schools. Nobody paid any attention.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 21, 2024 • 5:34:20pm

I went ahead and traded in my old M1 iPad Pro for the new M4 Pro. Now testing it by playing a couple games of chess…

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sizzzzlerz  May 21, 2024 • 5:39:59pm

re: #97 Ace Rothstein

It makes so much sense it’ll probably never happen. I have health insurance but not dental insurance (like an idiot). I have paid $2500 out of pocket for my last four dental visits, the two biggest being deep cleanings. Stupid tax on my part.

When I retired in ‘21, losing my dental insurance was a major hit. Health insurance was covered once I started on Medicare but there was no equivalent for dental. I could buy a supplement on my Medicare+ but my dentist, whom I been with for 15 years doesn’t accept it because it won’t pay enough. Getting private insurance that was equivalent to what I had was prohibitingly expensive, more than 3 times the rate. As a result, cleanings have dropped to once a year and the crown I needed I covered with money from my HSA account. Healthcare-wise, it is my biggest worry for now.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 21, 2024 • 5:42:26pm

re: #109 Joe Bacon ✅

Do you like the OLED?

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retired cynic  May 21, 2024 • 5:43:03pm

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jaunte  May 21, 2024 • 5:49:21pm

Small Trumptrial schadenfreude:
Trump finding out in court that Cohen managed to steal from him and get away with it.

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Patricia Kayden  May 21, 2024 • 5:52:22pm

re: #57 Belafon

One of the commenter’s over at Balloon Juice is a lawyer and he doesn’t think Trump will go to jail even if he’s convicted because, even though all of the charges are felonies, they’re the lowest kind of felony and almost no one goes to jail with those.

He will still be guilty.

Thanks for this. I was wondering if I’d live long enough to see Trump in prison. Looks like a no.

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Nerdy Fish  May 21, 2024 • 5:54:02pm

re: #114 Patricia Kayden

Thanks for this. I was wondering if I’d live long enough to see Trump in prison. Looks like a no.

There’s still plenty of opportunities. All is not lost, yet.

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jaunte  May 21, 2024 • 5:54:12pm

Fox News May 16: “Costello is a kill-shot witness.”

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jaunte  May 21, 2024 • 5:56:15pm

Misty Bentz @astronomisty.bsky.social

I managed to catch the International Space Station passing in front of the Sun today with my little telescope! How cool is that?!
#Seestar
🔭 🧪
This is a single frame extracted from the video, annotated to guide the eye

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piratedan  May 21, 2024 • 5:56:56pm

re: #116 jaunte

note that they didn’t specify a target :-)

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Nerdy Fish  May 21, 2024 • 5:57:09pm

re: #116 jaunte

Fox News May 16: “Costello is a kill-shot witness.”

I read an article earlier today that said that Costello’s testimony, done properly, actually could’ve posed quite a problem for the prosecution. The defense basically took a steaming dump all over their one opportunity to impeach Cohen’s credibility and generate reasonable doubt.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2024 • 5:57:15pm
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jaunte  May 21, 2024 • 5:58:35pm

re: #119 Nerdy Fish

When the client is the legal mastermind steering the case, you never know what might happen.

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Patricia Kayden  May 21, 2024 • 5:58:49pm

re: #91 Joe Bacon ✅

I thought Trump promised to pay for his supporters’ lawyers. I mean, they’re now in trouble because of him so he should. 😂 😂
I like Presidents who don’t need people to go to jail to support him.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 21, 2024 • 5:59:14pm

re: #111 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Do you like the OLED?

The first thing I’m noticing about the new M4 is that there is a rather long software update before anything else. The transfer process was faster than before. Next—the screen is brighter than the M1. Playing the first chess game against SmallFish which uses the Stockfish engine. It calculates quicker and deeper than before.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 21, 2024 • 6:03:44pm

re: #91 Joe Bacon ✅

Awww. 😈

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Mattand  May 21, 2024 • 6:03:54pm

re: #114 Patricia Kayden

Thanks for this. I was wondering if I’d live long enough to see Trump in prison. Looks like a no.

I’m not sure I’ll live long enough for him to be frigging convicted, let alone go to jail.

Which, again, even if he’s convicted, he still may be the next POTUS. Because Americans have the fucking collective long term memory of a lobotomized goldfish.

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 6:04:22pm

re: #117 jaunte

There’s also a moon in that pic…if you look closely, you can see one of the astronauts’ bare asses pushed against the view port.

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Mattand  May 21, 2024 • 6:04:51pm

Well, at least the Phils are winning.

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 6:05:18pm

re: #91 Joe Bacon ✅

Sounds like a good opportunity to take a plea agreement.

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Kilroy was here  May 21, 2024 • 6:05:20pm

re: #126 darthstar

There’s also a moon in that pic…if you look closely, you can see one of the astronauts’ bare asses pushed against the view port.

Zoom and enhance….

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Nerdy Fish  May 21, 2024 • 6:05:39pm

re: #125 Mattand

I’m not sure I’ll live long enough for him to be frigging convicted, let alone go to jail.

Which, again, even if he’s convicted, he still may be the next POTUS. Because Americans have the fucking collective long term memory of a lobotomized goldfish.

It’s not even that. It’s that there are 100 million people in this country that do not fucking care if he’s a convicted felon. They think the whole thing is a politically motivated sham just to prevent him from being president again, and that even if he committed crimes, he shouldn’t be held accountable for them, because he’s their president.

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 6:07:23pm

re: #116 jaunte

Fox News May 16: “Costello is a kill-shot witness.”

If the target is your own foot, maybe.

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 6:08:37pm

re: #129 Kilroy was here

Zoom and enhance….

ZOOM OUT! ZOOM OUT!

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 21, 2024 • 6:09:47pm

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 21, 2024 • 6:10:36pm

re: #132 darthstar

ZOOM OUT! ZOOM OUT!

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I WISH! We’d all be better off.

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BadgerB  May 21, 2024 • 6:14:33pm

re: #126 darthstar

There’s also a moon in that pic…if you look closely, you can see one of the astronauts’ bare asses pushed against the view port.

That’s no moon…

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JC1  May 21, 2024 • 6:21:31pm

re: #70 EPR-radar

Here’s another vote for “quit while you are behind”.

The problem with Bibi et al is that they are war criminals. Therefore saying that Bibi and the Hasidim are the problem is pretty explicitly saying that being Hasidic is a war crime, which is fucking ludicrous.

I upvoted you because I shouldn’t have conflated Bibi with being Hasidic with regards to the conflict in Gaza. It was inarticulate and I didn’t mean that (though I can understand that that’s how it comes across).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 21, 2024 • 6:29:53pm

The Sandhills Tropical Update:

The only tropical cyclone anywhere on the planet is in the Indian Ocean, Ialy, at the unusual position of 4.7°S, moving northwest toward the Equator and Kenya.

The storm is expected to turn out to sea and weaken as it approaches the Equator, becoming a tropical depression as it reaches 1°S.

(It is a urban legend that tropical cyclones can cross the Equator.)

Two invests: 99W north of Papua New Guinea, and 99B approaching the South India coast north of Sri Lanka.

metoc.navy.mil

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 6:36:23pm

Microsoft is grabbing all your keyboard clicks, so people will be looking for alternatives (me, I like Linux Mint)…

Mastodon

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JC1  May 21, 2024 • 6:39:13pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

I’ve been lost in a coding/testing/debugging cycle for days, figuring out the best way to handle Google’s upcoming ban on third party cookies, not only for LGF but for this browser extension I’ve been building forever. It’s hard to design tests for this kinda shit.

Have you tried asking GPT4 or Claude Opus? They’re surprising good at helping with a lot of coding tasks.

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Patricia Kayden  May 21, 2024 • 6:40:25pm

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Patricia Kayden  May 21, 2024 • 6:52:07pm

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 21, 2024 • 7:16:23pm

Dad cartoon:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 21, 2024 • 7:19:15pm

Yay, late Spring. Patchy frost tonight.

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jeffreyw  May 21, 2024 • 7:19:39pm

— Satan (@social-hell.uk) 2024-05-21T17:39:02.415Z

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steve_davis  May 21, 2024 • 7:29:39pm

re: #46 JC1

Judeism is both a cultural and religious thing.
Why can’t you say that you support Christians but not Christian Scientists?

christian scientists aren’t christians, just as national socialists aren’t socialists, and the german democratic republic had neither democrats nor republicans.

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 7:30:57pm

Hawt dawg!

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 7:33:09pm

re: #145 steve_davis

christian scientists aren’t christians, just as national socialists aren’t socialists, and the german democratic republic had neither democrats nor republicans.

Next you’ll tell me that Pastafarians are neither pasta nor from Jamaica.

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Romantic Heretic  May 21, 2024 • 7:36:06pm

re: #54 PhillyPretzel ✅

Of course they did.

And I bet they put everyone that voted against it on a watch list.

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steve_davis  May 21, 2024 • 7:37:17pm

re: #83 Joe Bacon ✅

Memories of the original Grape Nuts soaking them in milk for 5 minutes before I started eating them. But I liked the taste without any additional sugar.

Grandpa Bacon would always put a spoonful of jelly on them for breakfast.

My dad, in his 80’s, still had a wonderful, vivid memory of his grandmother soaking the shredded wheat biscuits with hot water to soften them before draining and putting the milk on them. Personally, one of my favorite things, which I haven’t had in ages but which I will start with after I eat my way through the mega-sized box of honey nut cheerios I bought on sale, is that texture of the crisp shredded wheat biscuit (the giant kind. the tiny little biscuits are a complete fraud) in milk. And it has roughly the effect of Colon Blow for anyone who has to worry about such things.

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Romantic Heretic  May 21, 2024 • 7:39:50pm

re: #63 darthstar

Um. Russia is not doing well in its war against Ukraine. Now they want to start some more wars?

Smooth move, ExLax.

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JC1  May 21, 2024 • 7:40:06pm

re: #145 steve_davis

christian scientists aren’t christians, just as national socialists aren’t socialists, and the german democratic republic had neither democrats nor republicans.

They might beg to differ. But fine, substitute Jehovah’s Witnesses or Seven Mountains Dominionists.

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steve_davis  May 21, 2024 • 7:40:48pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

I keep chortling, or maybe snortling is more accurate, reading the latest about Trump’s trial. Putting Robert Costello up there had to be Trump’s idea. And wow, was the prosecution ever ready for his ass on cross, with all the emails and receipts. It was a thing of beauty.

It was like a warning to the Trump camp: “Go ahead. Put Trump on the stand. Imagine the kind of background we did on all his tweets, speechs, truths, etc.”

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Patricia Kayden  May 21, 2024 • 7:46:20pm

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goddamnedfrank  May 21, 2024 • 7:46:45pm

Like, I don’t want to flatten things too much, but it really does feel like a lot of the discussion around AI can be reduced to one factor, consent:

The thing to keep in mind about Sam Altman using AI to duplicate Scarlett Johansson’s after she had twice expressly refused to allow it is that it perfectly fits the entitled pattern of behavior of a man whose sister has credibly accused him of raping her when she was 4 years old and he was 13

— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank.bsky.social) 2024-05-21T23:26:38.761Z

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jaunte  May 21, 2024 • 7:48:28pm

De Limited Spectrum

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 7:49:52pm

re: #155 jaunte

De Limited Spectrum

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I hope every township that can goes full rainbow.

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Nerdy Fish  May 21, 2024 • 7:49:57pm

re: #154 goddamnedfrank

Like, I don’t want to flatten things too much, but it really does feel like a lot of the discussion around AI can be reduced to one factor, consent:

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You’re really not wrong. The composition of a training set for any LLM or generative “AI” is the key to its operation, and rather than hamstring their timelines or the cost of operation by obtaining consent and licensing rights for the materials in question, OpenAI et al. want to just steal them wholesale. And so far, they’ve been allowed to get away with it.

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teleskiguy  May 21, 2024 • 7:50:49pm

This song is 30 years old.

#NowPlaying Nailbomb > Point Blank > Wasting Away youtu.be/75TZQ0d8HOA

— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness The Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy.bsky.social) 2024-05-22T02:46:38.677Z

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steve_davis  May 21, 2024 • 7:51:52pm

re: #151 JC1

They might beg to differ. But fine, substitute Jehovah’s Witnesses or Seven Mountains Dominionists.

I understand your point, but Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t Christians either. They think they are, just as Mormons think they are, but they’re the equivalent of junk science. They are literally people who, at some point in the nineteenth century, “did their own research” on the internet and went down a rabbit hole.

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Romantic Heretic  May 21, 2024 • 7:53:48pm

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Having to figure up pounds of fuel with kilograms of ordnance has some obvious potential for embarrassing mistakes.

The Gimli Glider.

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Vicious Babushka  May 21, 2024 • 7:54:18pm

re: #155 jaunte

De Limited Spectrum

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I’m taking rainbow ribbons for my luggage and books on critical race theory to read by the pool.

Fuck DeSantis.

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 7:55:07pm

Mastodon

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Belafon  May 21, 2024 • 7:55:29pm

re: #155 jaunte

De Limited Spectrum

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Free, meaning Republicans are free to force you to do what they want.

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JC1  May 21, 2024 • 7:55:44pm

re: #154 goddamnedfrank

Like, I don’t want to flatten things too much, but it really does feel like a lot of the discussion around AI can be reduced to one factor, consent:

Anyone who claims that his sister’s rape allegations are credible has very little credibility or integrity.

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Ace Rothstein  May 21, 2024 • 7:55:56pm

As a lover of photography, I am embarrassed to say that I just discovered Saul Leiter. His images are incredible; most are street photography in New York City.
saulleiterfoundation.org

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jaunte  May 21, 2024 • 7:56:31pm

Trying to control light wavelengths, DeSantis misunderstands the King Canute tide story.

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 7:56:52pm

re: #162 darthstar

I fixed the spelling in analysts but it still isn’t showing here.

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Belafon  May 21, 2024 • 7:57:40pm

re: #161 Vicious Babushka

I’m taking rainbow ribbons for my luggage and books on critical race theory to read by the pool.

Fuck DeSantis.

dilypod.com

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JC1  May 21, 2024 • 7:58:37pm

re: #157 Nerdy Fish

You’re really not wrong. The composition of a training set for any LLM or generative “AI” is the key to its operation, and rather than hamstring their timelines or the cost of operation by obtaining consent and licensing rights for the materials in question, OpenAI et al. want to just steal them wholesale. And so far, they’ve been allowed to get away with it.

Not theft. It’s not even what Napster was doing. The law will need to catch up.

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Belafon  May 21, 2024 • 7:59:54pm

x.com

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Ace Rothstein  May 21, 2024 • 8:00:03pm

“I may be old-fashioned. But I believe there is such a thing as a search for beauty – a delight in the nice things in the world. And I don’t think one should have to apologize for it.” -Saul Leiter

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 21, 2024 • 8:00:52pm

LOL

Venn Diagram overlapping “Grapes” and “Nuts”
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DodgerFan1988  May 21, 2024 • 8:02:11pm
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JC1  May 21, 2024 • 8:03:28pm

re: #159 steve_davis

I understand your point, but Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t Christians either. They think they are, just as Mormons think they are, but they’re the equivalent of junk science. They are literally people who, at some point in the nineteenth century, “did their own research” on the internet and went down a rabbit hole.

Oh, I know. Now do Catholics.
All religions are ridiculous to the uninitiated. If JW or CS want to call themselves Christian who am I to argue? I mean, Joseph Smith was just the Constantine/Martin Luther of the 19th century.

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Mattand  May 21, 2024 • 8:03:43pm

re: #162 darthstar

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LOL, I was thinking that when they were on Chris Hayes tonight. I’m almost positive Rubin is wearing the same dress she had on last night on O’Donnell’s show.

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Ace Rothstein  May 21, 2024 • 8:04:09pm

re: #173 DodgerFan1988

This shit is so dangerous and irresponsible.

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jaunte  May 21, 2024 • 8:05:40pm

re: #170 Belafon

21st century version:

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Mattand  May 21, 2024 • 8:06:58pm

re: #173 DodgerFan1988

What’s really fucking hilarious about Trump’s rant is that if SCOTUS rules in his favor that Presidents can do whatever they want, Biden sending the FBI to off Trump is perfectly legal.

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Romantic Heretic  May 21, 2024 • 8:09:03pm

re: #155 jaunte

That is one of the finest examples of political kayfabe I’ve ever seen.

Doesn’t actually accomplish anything useful but it sure plays on the emotions of the participants.

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 8:09:05pm

re: #173 DodgerFan1988

If anyone in the government wanted Trump dead, he’d be dead.

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 8:09:26pm

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Romantic Heretic  May 21, 2024 • 8:12:02pm

re: #170 Belafon

Had they forgotten WWI already?

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JC1  May 21, 2024 • 8:12:09pm

Wow, a few sitting GOP senators are actually criticizing Alito over the upside down flag.
Thune, Lindsay, and Mitt so far.

cnn.com

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darthstar  May 21, 2024 • 8:12:28pm

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goddamnedfrank  May 21, 2024 • 8:12:40pm

re: #157 Nerdy Fish

You’re really not wrong. The composition of a training set for any LLM or generative “AI” is the key to its operation, and rather than hamstring their timelines or the cost of operation by obtaining consent and licensing rights for the materials in question, OpenAI et al. want to just steal them wholesale. And so far, they’ve been allowed to get away with it.

In a weird way Scarlett’s voice is an almost fractal exemplar of this whole goddamned business because it really is about the wholesale appropriating of likeness, couched in the legal terminology of “publicity rights.” Because while they’re stealing entire oeuvres for the training data, the actual perceived value lies in the output of the inference engines actually being familiar, in other words in the output’s likeness to some known thing. Its ability to evoke some recognizable pattern that seems congruent to the prompt at all scales of magnification.

Also, because she’s low key infamous for taking roles that crossed modern representational boundaries.

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Belafon  May 21, 2024 • 8:13:45pm

re: #182 Romantic Heretic

Had they forgotten WWI already?

Think of all the soldiers that never had colds again. //

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Belafon  May 21, 2024 • 8:17:03pm

re: #185 goddamnedfrank

Because while they’re stealing entire oeuvres for the training data, the actual perceived value lies in the output of the inference engines actually being familiar, in other words in the output’s likeness to some known thing. Its ability to evoke some recognizable pattern that seems congruent to the prompt at all scales of magnification.

Hey, I resemble that remark.

One of the things I’ve noticed recently in my attempts at carrying on conversations with people is that I’m mentally timing how long I should be standing and talking in a location before it’s appropriate to break it off so I’m not interrupting them for too long.

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JC1  May 21, 2024 • 8:17:35pm

re: #185 goddamnedfrank

In a weird way Scarlett’s voice is an almost fractal exemplar of this whole goddamned business because it really is about the wholesale appropriating of likeness, couched in the legal terminology of “publicity rights.” Because while they’re stealing entire oeuvres for the training data, the actual perceived value lies in the output of the inference engines actually being familiar, in other words in the output’s likeness to some known thing. Its ability to evoke some recognizable pattern that seems congruent to the prompt at all scales of magnification.

Also, because she’s low key infamous for taking roles that crossed modern representational boundaries.

I also wonder if they simply sampled her voice or got an actress that sounds like her. They’re claiming the latter, but haven’t offered any proof (like releasing the person’s name).

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 21, 2024 • 8:19:14pm

Not sure why Margie is so mad. Presidents have absolute immunity anyway……………

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BeachDem  May 21, 2024 • 8:21:31pm

re: #153 Patricia Kayden

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danarchy  May 21, 2024 • 8:25:58pm

re: #154 goddamnedfrank

Like, I don’t want to flatten things too much, but it really does feel like a lot of the discussion around AI can be reduced to one factor, consent:

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I didn’t think the Sky voice sounded particularly like Scarlet Johanson. It was certainly similar. According to Altman all the voices were actual voice actors who had contracts and would be paid as long as the voice continued to be available. Which means if Sky really was another voice actress Scarlet Johanson may have just cost her a nice income.

Of course I wouldn’t put it pat Altman to be lying about that.

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goddamnedfrank  May 21, 2024 • 8:31:28pm

re: #188 JC1

I also wonder if they simply sampled her voice or got an actress that sounds like her. They’re claiming the latter, but haven’t offered any proof (like releasing the person’s name).

Legally it apparently does not matter, weirdly enough all thanks to Tom Waits and Bette Midler.

And the instructive thing about all of this is that AI could never be this funny:

This evidence was sufficient to support the jury’s finding that consumers were likely to be misled by the commercial into believing that Waits endorsed SalsaRio Doritos.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 21, 2024 • 8:38:28pm

re: #147 darthstar

Next you’ll tell me that Pastafarians are neither pasta nor from Jamaica.

I support both pasta and Pastafarians.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 21, 2024 • 8:42:36pm

re: #159 steve_davis

I understand your point, but Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t Christians either. They think they are, just as Mormons think they are, but they’re the equivalent of junk science. They are literally people who, at some point in the nineteenth century, “did their own research” on the internet and went down a rabbit hole.

Mormons definitely are Christians. They believe in everything the Bible teaches, including Jesus. They just added extra bits. That doesn’t make them “not Christians,” any more than Lutherans removing parts of the Bible makes them “not Christians.”

Over at the JW Website, they say they are Christians who try to follow Jesus’s teachings as closely as possible. They both baptise and pray in the name of Jesus.

The “no true Christian” fallacy seems to get introduced to “other” embarrassing Christians.

www​.​​jw​​.​​org (What JWs assert about their faith)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  May 21, 2024 • 8:43:31pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  May 21, 2024 • 8:46:00pm

re: #195 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Nice touch with the German machine gun and grenade too.

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Romantic Heretic  May 21, 2024 • 8:47:26pm

re: #195 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

What comes to mind?

That I’ll get a kidney, the liver, and a lung when I slip a knife between middle and lower bars of the ‘E’ in ‘MATTER’.

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Romantic Heretic  May 21, 2024 • 8:48:28pm

re: #196 GlutenFreeJesus

MP40 and Stielgranate.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 21, 2024 • 8:49:26pm

re: #198 Romantic Heretic

Yep.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  May 21, 2024 • 8:52:43pm
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Captain Ron  May 21, 2024 • 8:53:36pm
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jaunte  May 21, 2024 • 8:59:03pm

Alexander Chee @alexanderchee.bsky.social

Learned the word umchina from a student essay today, “my mother’s friend’s son,” and almost fell over laughing. It is the Korean word for the perfect person your mom compared you to while growing up. But maybe even now.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  May 21, 2024 • 9:02:19pm
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mmmirele  May 21, 2024 • 9:03:09pm

re: #104 Backwoods Sleuth

That Microsoft Recall bullshit is going to push me off of Windows and either on to Mac or some *nix brew. I don’t need that crap in my life.

ETA: I *just* as in while I was typing this up, got a notice that my Windows EOL is October 1, 2025. Thanks for giving me a heads up, MSFT. I’ll be ready.

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jaunte  May 21, 2024 • 9:03:32pm

It seems like there should be a Yiddish word for umchina.

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jeffreyw  May 21, 2024 • 9:04:27pm

Mastodon

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mmmirele  May 21, 2024 • 9:10:22pm

re: #159 steve_davis

I understand your point, but Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t Christians either. They think they are, just as Mormons think they are, but they’re the equivalent of junk science. They are literally people who, at some point in the nineteenth century, “did their own research” on the internet and went down a rabbit hole.

*sigh* You sound like an Evangelical Protestant. Evies say the same things about Catholics and Orthodox, the former because they allegedly “worship statues” and the latter because they allegedly “worship icons.” (It’s veneration, not worship.) Seriously, if people say they are X, then yeah, they’re X. I gotta live with the fact that Christian Nationalists are Christian and they can’t be drop-kicked out of the faith. You know, kind of like how they’d like to drop-kick ME, because I have liberal ideas.

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jaunte  May 21, 2024 • 9:14:44pm

@davidforbes.bsky.social
Pact and pike: how medieval peasants organized and fought
patreon.com
Dismissed as mindless mobs, the peasants of feudal Europe actually had deep networks of mutual aid and resistance. Here’s an in-depth look at how they built those — and left lords dead upon the battlefield.

“…For centuries the peasants who labored under European feudalism have been falsely portrayed as docile or mindlessly angry. This is not just a historical issue: this ancient propaganda has shaped, in significant ways, excuses for hierarchy alongside a dismissal of the commons and rural revolt. Sadly, even some leftists have bought into these old lies.

So it’s important that the reality of their achievements, often against incredible odds, tells another tale.”

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goddamnedfrank  May 21, 2024 • 9:19:17pm

re: #204 mmmirele

I would simply not name my product “Recall”

No matter what it is or does.

Just as a matter of basic brand management I think tying a new key product in the consumer’s mind with the preexisting concept of a product recall seems like something to avoid, maybe?

— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank.bsky.social) 2024-05-22T04:18:14.573Z

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  May 21, 2024 • 9:24:35pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 21, 2024 • 9:25:15pm

re: #200 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Remember, Republicans will assert only Democrats virtue-signal.

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jaunte  May 21, 2024 • 9:31:29pm

re: #210 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

There’s another foot mark in place of an apostrophe.

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JC1  May 21, 2024 • 9:46:59pm

re: #210 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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Why is there a boiling tea kettle in the frunk?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  May 21, 2024 • 9:54:45pm
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teleskiguy  May 21, 2024 • 9:54:58pm

Never met the dude, but we talked to each other on Twitter. I was sickened by his prostate cancer diagnosis a couple of years ago. This was some months before the disease claimed my Dad’s life just 12 days shy of his 75th birthday. Vinnie has been open and honest on his Twitter about what he and my Dad went through.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 21, 2024 • 9:59:36pm
Click to Reveal

The group is “Carpenters” and the song is “Rainy Days and Mondays”

Behind the hide bar is what convinced him about this group if you don’t want to watch a twenty-three minute video.

I Used to HATE this 70s Band…Now I ADORE Them…THIS Is What CHANGED My Mind! | Professor of Rock

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 21, 2024 • 10:07:39pm

re: #145 steve_davis

christian scientists aren’t christians, just as national socialists aren’t socialists, and the german democratic republic had neither democrats nor republicans.

Christian Scientists would differ, particularly through their widely-read newspaper “The Christian Science Monitor.”

One of their central beliefs is that disease can be cured through prayer, which is directly from the New Testament.

Like many other Christian sects, members have been prosecuted for medical neglect of children resulting in death or harm. Likewise, they call that religious persecution.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 21, 2024 • 10:10:07pm

re: #208 jaunte

I did this a while back… but it did not get much love in the Nightcafe challenge:

peasants rioting against knights — Nightcafe SDXL
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teleskiguy  May 21, 2024 • 10:11:24pm

Whoa. Birthday present from one of my sisters. This Umphrey’s McGee t-shirt goes HARD.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 21, 2024 • 10:12:57pm

re: #54 PhillyPretzel ✅

From NBC: Louisiana has passed a bill that classifies abortion medications as controlled substances.

The bill now goes to the Louisiana Senate, where the Republicans will pass it. Their wingnut governor has already said he would sign the bill.

It does more than ban mifepristone and misoprostol. They are already banned to prescribe in Louisiana.

The bill creates a felony possession charge. If convicted of possession, the penalty is five years imprisonment.

Both drugs are used for other things aside from abortion.

ca.news.yahoo.com

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goddamnedfrank  May 21, 2024 • 10:13:05pm

wake up babe they’re doing comstock

— Marisa Kabas (@marisakabas.bsky.social) 2024-05-22T05:08:53.402Z

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 21, 2024 • 10:14:18pm

re: #177 jaunte

uh…with Fartzilla it’s more like methane…

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William Lewis  May 21, 2024 • 10:16:00pm

re: #217 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Behind the hide bar is what convinced him about this group if you don’t want to watch a twenty-three minute video.

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I’ll take Superstar but that’s a wonderful song too. Still think she should have been allowed to do her vocals from the drum kit though.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 21, 2024 • 10:16:35pm

re: #221 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

So what are Louisiana prosecutors going to do when a US service member is prescribed one of these medicines, prescribed by and distributed by the doctors on the base, which Louisiana cannot control?

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 21, 2024 • 10:17:27pm

re: #221 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The bill now goes to the Louisiana Senate, where the Republicans will pass it. Their wingnut governor has already said he would sign the bill.

It does more than ban mifepristone and misoprostol. They are already banned to prescribe in Louisiana.

The bill creates a felony possession charge. If convicted of possession, the penalty is five years imprisonment.

Both drugs are used for other things aside from abortion.

ca.news.yahoo.com

Yes—misoprostol is an RX I take when I have severe RA attacks. So I’m thinking of all those folks in Louisiana suffering from severe RA who are now DENIED the RX they need to checkmate severe attacks.

Fuck the Xtian assholes in the Louisiana legislature. May they all contract rheumatoid arthritis and go thru attacks like I do. Fuck them all!

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 21, 2024 • 10:19:35pm

re: #225 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So what are Louisiana prosecutors going to do when a US service member is prescribed one of these medicines, prescribed by and distributed by the doctors on the base, which Louisiana cannot control?

Jail them in the name of Jay-Zuss.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 21, 2024 • 10:22:25pm

re: #48 Vicious Babushka

People make choices about their own lives. That is not a reason to hate the community they left. I was raised as a Reform Jew but I don’t feel the need to go around bad mouthing them. They were not for me, I have no grudge.

You seem to believe my entire community is, um, substandard. That’s kinda antisemitic adjacent, if not full blown.

Uh, Yike? Maybe JC1 should stop digging?

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goddamnedfrank  May 21, 2024 • 10:24:56pm

FYI BlueSky has rolled out DMs on the staging site main.bsky.dev

I’m certain that this version is not E2EE so use with caution.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 21, 2024 • 10:26:46pm

re: #49 Greup

This is a fun one from King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard…

[rest cut]

That video comes up “not available.”

However, through the magic of YouTube’s search bar, I found it, posted by the the group itself. It really is a weird flow of odd meters. (10:44)

Crumbling Castle

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William Lewis  May 21, 2024 • 10:35:57pm

re: #228 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Uh, Yike? Maybe JC1 should stop digging?

I tried to give him that “hint”. He didn’t take it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 21, 2024 • 10:39:34pm

re: #96 Joe Bacon ✅

Similar to this greatest hit from a Texas mayor (2:16)

Texas mayor leaves mic on during bathroom break

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 21, 2024 • 10:45:28pm

re: #91 Joe Bacon ✅

A waterbear playing a tiny violin
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sagehen  May 21, 2024 • 11:02:49pm

re: #205 jaunte

It seems like there should be a Yiddish word for umchina.

don’t be silly. In your mother’s eyes, *you’re* the perfect person her friends should be comparing their kids to.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 21, 2024 • 11:24:33pm

re: #222 goddamnedfrank

Ya know, center square on my bingo card was, “dying by being run over by a deranged oil lover at a climate protest.” I did not have on there, “spending my declining years making drone deliveries of BCP’s and abortion pills across state lines.” Better paint my bike black.

— Becca’s Mullet (@beccasmullet.bsky.social) 2024-05-22T05:17:23.118Z

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 12:07:00am

re: #32 JC1

How about if I say ’ I support Jews but not Bibi and not Hasidism’ ?

One can be against the Jewish Government & its policies without being against Jews and Judaism.

And there is Zionism in the sense of “The Jews should have a homeland” and Eretz Israel Zionism in the sense of “The Jews should dominate all of the land surrounding Israel and Palestine should not be allowed to exist.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 12:11:04am

re: #51 JC1

Not substandard. Just no different than the Amish, scientologists, or the folks running around with snakes speaking in tongues.

Even in a place like LGF where the discussion is calm and generally objective, we see what a tetchy and fulminant subject religion and politics in the Middle East can be.

No wonder the college campuses and Internets are boiling over.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 12:14:37am

re: #77 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We need leaders who have an ideology of idealism and pragmatism combined. Joe Biden is ok on the pragmatism front but he is failing on the idealism/inspirational front.

Yup.

Joe is an experienced career politician. He is good at the mechanics but yes, the inspiration tends to wane after decades of public service.

His opponent is a demagogue with a limited history of public service (exactly four years) but still manages to sell himself to his base as the anti-politician and ultimate outsider.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 12:16:38am

re: #82 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

I’ve wondered about this. When I was a kid, I was very skeptical of Grape Nuts because I thought they were like raisin seeds.

I was walking in the vineyards last September, there were freshly fallen walnuts from a tree which I cracked open with a rock and ate with fresh-picked grapes.

For breakfast, of course.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 12:20:54am

re: #108 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

The thing that sold me on metric is that one liter of water (the most common liquid on Earth) weighs one kilo and one cubic meter of water weighs one ton, so one square meter of water 1mm deep weighs one kilo.

They give precipitation in terms of liters per/m², so you know not only the volume of water that fell but how deep it would be if it did not flow off.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 22, 2024 • 12:21:58am

re: #225 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So what are Louisiana prosecutors going to do when a US service member is prescribed one of these medicines, prescribed by and distributed by the doctors on the base, which Louisiana cannot control?

Wait for the servicemember to leave the base.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 22, 2024 • 12:47:10am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 22, 2024 • 12:50:12am

His Libertarian stripes are pissing off Colorado Democrats.

Gov. Jared Polis rankles fellow Democrats with vetoes of wage-theft bill, other measures

“Polis nixed six bills on Friday that also included school HVAC upgrades, youth sports background checks”

Colorado Gov. Jared Polis’ first vetoes following this year’s legislative session included a bill aimed at fighting wage theft in the construction industry that he said “would not punish the real wrongdoers.”

The bill sought to hold general contractors liable for wage theft committed by subcontractors. But Polis wrote in a veto letter that as passed, the measure would let subcontractors “off the hook” while penalizing good actors further up the project’s chain of command.

In all, Polis nixed six bills. His office announced the vetoes in a news release Friday evening, and they prompted expressions of disappointment from fellow Democrats who had sponsored the rejected measures, some of which had also been endorsed by the Democratic Women’s Caucus.

(more at the Denver Post)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 22, 2024 • 12:51:21am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 12:52:41am

re: #114 Patricia Kayden

One of the commenter’s over at Balloon Juice is a lawyer and he doesn’t think Trump will go to jail even if he’s convicted because, even though all of the charges are felonies, they’re the lowest kind of felony and almost no one goes to jail with those.

He will still be guilty.
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I cannot imagine anything stifer than house arrest.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 12:54:09am

re: #130 Nerdy Fish

It’s not even that. It’s that there are 100 million people in this country that do not fucking care if he’s a convicted felon…

He will wear his conviction as a badge of honor

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 1:00:35am

re: #159 steve_davis

I understand your point, but Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t Christians either. They think they are, just as Mormons think they are, but they’re the equivalent of junk science. They are literally people who, at some point in the nineteenth century, “did their own research” on the internet and went down a rabbit hole.

Religions like that cause me to thank God for giving our Founding Fathers the Divine Wisdom to separate Church and State.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 1:01:20am

re: #163 Belafon

Free, meaning Republicans are free to force you to do what they want.

Freedom’s just another word for nothing else to choose…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 1:03:27am

re: #173 DodgerFan1988

So when all else fails, the GOP will go for the Stand Your Ground defense.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 1:06:37am

re: #185 goddamnedfrank

They just remind us that the ultimate goal of AI is to make real-life actors and actresses as superfluous as drivers in autonomous vehicles.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 22, 2024 • 1:07:18am

re: #241 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wait for the servicemember to leave the base.

But that is the problem.

Military doctors can prescribe birth control pills and there is nothing Louisiana can do about it.

And how can a prosecutor try to convict a service person doing what US law allows?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 22, 2024 • 1:09:26am

re: #245 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I cannot imagine anything stifer than house arrest.

Taking away his cell phone.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 22, 2024 • 1:10:38am

re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Religions like that cause me to thank God for giving our Founding Fathers the Divine Wisdom to separate Church and State.

Conservatives: We can fix that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 1:10:44am

re: #195 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

If you saw this person wearing this [“White Lives Matter”] hoodie.

What’s the 1st thing that comes to mind?

I would think of all the unarmed white people who were victims of unjustified (and often unpunished) police violence…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 1:16:35am

re: #217 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Behind the hide bar is what convinced him about this group if you don’t want to watch a twenty-three minute video.

I had that single along with For All We Know when I was 11.

That was before Richard Heilscher sat me down and played me MC5, Deep Purple, Neil Young and Cheech and Chong, and Joe Glidewell played me the Who Live at Leeds, Mountain, the James Gang, Slade and (pre-Dark SIde of the Moon) Pink Floyd

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William Lewis  May 22, 2024 • 1:17:14am

re: #252 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

But that is the problem.

Military doctors can prescribe birth control pills and there is nothing Louisiana can do about it.

And how can a prosecutor try to convict a service person doing what US law allows?

Look at drinking laws for your clues. When I was on active duty in 1984, I could buy liquor and beer on post at the NCO club but only 4.2% beer off post in Kansas, and that only in “wet” counties. I was highly PO’d that, as a 20 year old corporal, I could not have a glass of wine with my dinner at an Italian restaurant. There were other even stranger quirks in their laws but you get the gist of it.

Hint: they can and will arrest anyone they thing is in violation of their precious laws and the only thing that will stop them is if they are somehow slapped down - either with lawsuits or federal laws. Unless the House, Senate & Presidency are all controlled by sane people & SCOTUS gets packed nothing will change for the better.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 1:17:53am

re: #225 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So what are Louisiana prosecutors going to do when a US service member is prescribed one of these medicines, prescribed by and distributed by the doctors on the base, which Louisiana cannot control?

They get arrested the moment they leave the base, of course.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 22, 2024 • 1:18:32am

re: #252 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

But that is the problem.

Military doctors can prescribe birth control pills and there is nothing Louisiana can do about it.

And how can a prosecutor try to convict a service person doing what US law allows?

You are required to follow state law in the military. That’s why wingnuts are incensed about the military offering medical leave for women to leave a fascist state to obtain reproductive medical care.

Likewise, things are legal in state law which are illegal in the military (notably, adultery).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 1:20:00am

re: #258 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They get arrested the moment they leave the base, of course.

GMTA!!!

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silverdolphin  May 22, 2024 • 1:22:10am

re: #241 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wait for the servicemember to leave the base.

The law allows people to have the drugs with a valid prescription. And women may possess the drugs for use in their own pregnancies, with a valid prescription. And any doctor prescribing them will require a DEA license and fill out paperwork telling the state who is geting the drug and why. But any doctor in the satte can only prescribe them for non-abortion medical uses.

Women on military bases have to follow the laws of the state they are in. Which is why this is making it harder to recruit women since so many of the bases are in red state. Recruitment of women in the Army is down 31%. Women site the fear of sexual harassment and the possibility of getting pregnant with no recourse as reasons. Ironically, since women are now better educated than men, increasing the number of women in the high tech military is a focus of recruitment. The problem is that well-educated women have too many other options.

But the MAGAts do not care. They likely feel that woman should not be in the military to begin with.

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silverdolphin  May 22, 2024 • 1:24:12am

re: #252 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

But that is the problem.

Military doctors can prescribe birth control pills and there is nothing Louisiana can do about it.

And how can a prosecutor try to convict a service person doing what US law allows?

From what I have read, this is not true. Because of the Hyde Amendment, military doctors cannot prescribe any pills for abortions or even perform an abortion outside of the health of the mother. This is why the military is paying the travel expenses for any service member who has to travel for an abortion. But it cannot pay for the abortion itself.

This is why recruitment is dropping for women, They do not want to be sent to a base in the South and deal with this crap.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 1:24:53am

re: #261 silverdolphin

Remember Senator Tuberville’s blockade of military promotions over DoD policy of allowing women service members leave to obtain medical procedures unavailable in the state they are posted in.

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silverdolphin  May 22, 2024 • 1:29:31am

re: #259 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You are required to follow state law in the military. That’s why wingnuts are incensed about the military offering medical leave for women to leave a fascist state to obtain reproductive medical care.

Likewise, things are legal in state law which are illegal in the military (notably, adultery).

There has been a huge drop in the number of women being recruited in the Army in the last few years, from like 19,000 a year to 11,000. The worry of sexual assault without any options if a pregancy arises is quite large. This is becoming a real problem for force readiness as the high tech military requires pretty well educated soldiers and women are generlally better educated than men these days. The Army wants and needs more women,

But well educated women have more options and can look elsewhere, especially when things like women’s healthcare are really big obstacles.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 22, 2024 • 1:29:38am

Post just now at CNN:

Middle East turmoil: Spain, Norway and Ireland to recognize a Palestinian state

Spain, Norway and Ireland have announced plans to formally recognize a Palestinian state, in a move that is likely to bolster the global Palestinian cause but strain relations with Israel.

“Today, Ireland, Norway and Spain are announcing that we recognize the state of Palestine. Each of us will now undertake whatever national steps are necessary to give effect to that decision,” Irish Prime Minister Simon Harris told a press conference in Dublin.

The recognition will come into force in all three countries on May 28, Irish foreign minister Micheál Martin said.

Norway’s Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre said the war in Gaza has “made it clear that achieving peace and stability must be predicted on resolving the Palestinian question.”

(more)

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silverdolphin  May 22, 2024 • 1:31:30am

re: #263 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember Senator Tuberville’s blockade of military promotions over DoD policy of allowing women service members leave to obtain medical procedures unavailable in the state they are posted in.

Yep,. The MAGAts are fine with reducing US military readiness. I expect that when push comes to shove, they envision bringing back the draft (for men only) to fill up the spots left empty because women refuse to enlist. Hell, they likely do not want women to be in the military at all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 1:43:53am

re: #266 silverdolphin

Yep,. The MAGAts are fine with reducing US military readiness. I expect that when push comes to shove, they envision bringing back the draft (for men only) to fill up the spots left empty because women refuse to enlist. Hell, they likely do not want women to be in the military at all.

I still remember bck in the 90’s when female recruitment was a problem and then Secretary of Defense Cohen (not the DJT Lawyer) came out and declared a No Tolerance Policy for sexual harrassment.

I knew that a show trial was coming. Somebody not too low in rank (don’t want to be picking on simple soldiers) but not too high up (then it would look too much like commonly condoned practice)

So they brought up the Sergeant Major of the Arma, the highest ranking NCO in the Army, on charges sexual harrassment charges. He was acquitted on the harrassment charges, but convicted of perjury (in other words, he lied about saying he hadn’t done it), discharged from the army but allowed to keep his pension and benefits.

So much for Zero Tolerance…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 1:44:31am

re: #265 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Post just now at CNN:

Middle East turmoil: Spain, Norway and Ireland to recognize a Palestinian state

isn’t that anti-Semitism?

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silverdolphin  May 22, 2024 • 1:49:10am

Netanyahu Won’t Grab the U.S.-Saudi Lifeline Because of His Far-right Coalition Partners

The op/ed really does indicate Biden is playing chess while others play checkers. I think one reason Biden is pushnig back on the ICC stuff is to show Bibi that his only protection from arrest comes from the US and that protection could weaken if this lifeline is not used. Leverage.

But Bibi cannot take this lifeline if he hopes to stay in power. He will take israel down with him rather than make the right call.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 22, 2024 • 1:51:33am

Your educational video for the overnight:

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William Lewis  May 22, 2024 • 2:25:41am

re: #270 silverdolphin

Netanyahu Won’t Grab the U.S.-Saudi Lifeline Because of His Far-right Coalition Partners

The op/ed really does indicate Biden is playing chess while others play checkers. I think one reason Biden is pushnig back on the ICC stuff is to show Bibi that his only protection from arrest comes from the US and that protection could weaken if this lifeline is not used. Leverage.

But Bibi cannot take this lifeline if he hopes to stay in power. He will take israel down with him rather than make the right call.

But if he pushes back against the ICC himself (considering the blowback with the SoS) he _will_ lose the youth vote and that will probably be enough to put Trump back in office. The kids are furious over the support for the Netanyahu regime and it’s enough to keep them at home despite the other vital issues. Yes it’s a “cut off your nose to spite your face” kind of thing but Bibi is more in their face - more visceral - than Hamas to them even for those who understand that Hamas is equally evil.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 22, 2024 • 2:37:19am

re: #272 William Lewis

But if he pushes back against the ICC himself (considering the blowback with the SoS) he _will_ lose the youth vote and that will probably be enough to put Trump back in office. The kids are furious over the support for the Netanyahu regime and it’s enough to keep them at home despite the other vital issues. Yes it’s a “cut off your nose to spite your face” kind of thing but Bibi is more in their face - more visceral - than Hamas to them even for those who understand that Hamas is equally evil.

My theory (wild speculation) about this is President Biden is letting religion get in the way of his foreign policy regarding Israel.

Evangelicals have long advocated unquestioned support for Israel because they need all Jewish people there to convert or die in Armageddon. Unfortunately, more than a century of that has leaked over into nearly every denomination.

What the Roman Catholic Church teaches is not necessarily what Catholic parishioners believe.

In theory, we have separation of Church and State. In governmental practice, we do not.

That’s why it took the Democratic Party nearly half a century to admit in the party platform that atheists are an important constituency and are actual contributors to society. That plank was adopted in 2020.

Pew Research notes 40% of Democrats twenty-nine and under are atheists (not “no preference” or “agnostic”) and 36% thirty to forty-nine are atheists.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 22, 2024 • 2:41:36am

re: #273 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

If Pew Research is correct, that means atheists are a larger constituency than African-Americans.

You won’t see any Democratic politician addressing the Freedom from Religion Foundation, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, or American Atheists (other than Nebraska state senator Megan Hunt and former and future state senator Ernie Chambers).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 22, 2024 • 2:58:47am

re: #274 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

How Many Atheists Are There in Your State? (Graphs about Religion blog, Ryan Burge, March 25, 2024)

Nebraska graphs out between 5% and 6.5%. There are several thousand elected officials at all levels in this state. Exactly two atheists hold office. (When Ernie Chambers gets elected in November, it will be three.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 22, 2024 • 3:04:41am

As far as I can tell about younger atheists, they see the war between Israel and Hamas as a religious war. Geopolitical alliances, especially made over religion, do not matter.

Younger atheists don’t care which side is “right” in a religious war; they only want the dying to stop.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 22, 2024 • 3:16:04am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 22, 2024 • 3:25:44am

Allegedly the plumber is supposed to come later this morning to replace my outside spicket and related inside plumbing. (He cancelled yesterday over an emergency water outage elsewhere.)

I’m going to hit the hay. G’night, y’all.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 22, 2024 • 3:31:09am

Bonus:

Wisconsin Senate Candidate Eric Hovde Says Old People Shouldn’t Get To Vote Because They’re Almost Dead (Charlie Pierce, Esquire, May 21, 2024)

A snippet:

This time, it seems, the GOP has settled on candidates who are not quite as outwardly bananas as Christine O’Donnell or poor old Herschel. But scratch off a little bit of the veneer, however, and the inner wingnut and/or incompetent shines right through. Take, for example, Eric Hovde, the California gozillionnaire whom the Wisconsin Republicans parachuted in to take on incumbent Democratic Senator Tammy Baldwin. On the surface, Hovde looked ideal—young, handsome, and rich, and the whole carpetbagger thing doesn’t seem to bite anywhere as hard as it once did. Unless, of course, the candidate turns out to be such a klutz that carpetbagging becomes just another example of the candidate’s inability to tell his arse from his elbow. So meet Eric Hovde. He really likes you, Meemaw. He just doesn’t think you should vote. From Wisconsin Public Radio:

“Well, if you’re in a nursing home, you only have five, six months life expectancy. Almost nobody in a nursing home is at a point to vote, and you had … adult children showing up and saying, ‘Who voted for my 85- or 90-year-old father or mother?’” Hovde said.

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Nerdy Fish  May 22, 2024 • 3:31:28am

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Shropshire Slasher  May 22, 2024 • 3:36:11am

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steve_davis  May 22, 2024 • 3:49:30am

re: #194 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Mormons definitely are Christians. They believe in everything the Bible teaches, including Jesus. They just added extra bits. That doesn’t make them “not Christians,” any more than Lutherans removing parts of the Bible makes them “not Christians.”

Over at the JW Website, they say they are Christians who try to follow Jesus’s teachings as closely as possible. They both baptise and pray in the name of Jesus.

The “no true Christian” fallacy seems to get introduced to “other” embarrassing Christians.

www​.​​jw​​.​​org (What JWs assert about their faith)

Mormons do not believe in the Holy Trinity, according to my brief dip into Wikipedia. They can call themselves whatever they want, but if you can’t make it through the Nicene Creed, you are literally not a Christian. Unitarians are delightful people, but they also are not Christians. Nor are Jews or Muslims, both of which groups believe Jesus lived, but who either consider him a madman or a prophet.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 22, 2024 • 3:50:07am

re: #83 Joe Bacon ✅

Memories of the original Grape Nuts soaking them in milk for 5 minutes before I started eating them. But I liked the taste without any additional sugar.

Grandpa Bacon would always put a spoonful of jelly on them for breakfast.

I remember surviving the catastrophic Grape Nut shortage of 2020.

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Belafon  May 22, 2024 • 4:13:12am

re: #243 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My company is responsible for anything subcontractors do.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 22, 2024 • 4:14:18am
Norway, Ireland and Spain have recognized a Palestinian state in a historic move. Irish Prime Minister Simon Harris said on Wednesday it was coordinated with Spain and Norway, “an historic and important day for … Palestine.”

Several other European countries have in the past weeks indicated that they plan to recognize a Palestinian state, arguing a two-state solution is essential for lasting peace in the region.

apnews.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 4:19:47am

re: #273 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Evangelicals have long advocated unquestioned support for Israel because they need all Jewish people there to convert or die in Armageddon. Unfortunately, more than a century of that has leaked over into nearly every denomination.

When you consider it closely, it means that the Evangelicals are pro-Israel but anti-Jewish because when their End TImes prophecies are fulfilled, the Lord Jesus will come at the head of his Holy Host and cast all the unbelievers into the Lake of Fire, Jews included…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 22, 2024 • 4:20:43am

re: #279 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“Well, if you’re in a nursing home, you only have five, six months life expectancy. Almost nobody in a nursing home is at a point to vote, and you had … adult children showing up and saying, ‘Who voted for my 85- or 90-year-old father or mother?’” Hovde said.

Don’t we know that only white landowners, preferable those with slaves, should be allowed to vote? Silly liberals.

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Nerdy Fish  May 22, 2024 • 4:22:42am

re: #286 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When you consider it closely, it means that the Evangelicals are pro-Israel but anti-Jewish because when their End TImes prophecies are fulfilled, the Lord Jesus will come at the head of his Holy Host and cast all the unbelievers into the Lake of Fire, Jews included…

Well, we already know this because Evangelical Christians are the ones out here promoting the “Jews killed Jesus” anti-semitic trope.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 22, 2024 • 4:23:51am

re: #285 Shropshire Slasher

The only way we’ll ever see a two-state solution is if international pressure is applied. And likely not ever when Hamas and hard right Israelis are in charge because neither cares about international pressure.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 4:24:32am

re: #282 steve_davis

…if you can’t make it through the Nicene Creed, you are literally not a Christian…

I believe that Vitamin B3 helps improve circulation, and it has been shown to suppress inflammation. I believe that I can meet all of my body’s needs for B3 through a healthy diet, including greens, meat, poultry, fish, and eggs.

That is my Niacin Creed.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 4:25:02am

re: #286 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s certainly no secret that the Jewish people are little more than the Bible-thumpers masturbatory fodder for their End Times fantasies.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 22, 2024 • 4:25:17am

Posted because it is in metric.

Over 569 metric tons of humanitarian aid have made it across the US-built floating pier and into Gaza, but none of it has been delivered to Palestinian civilians, the Pentagon said Tuesday.

The structure, erected by the US Army in an effort to alleviate the humanitarian crisis in the war-torn region, was completed last Thursday.

But several trucks hauling food and other goods to warehouses have been “intercepted” on the Gazan mainland.

nypost.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 4:25:26am

re: #287 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Don’t we know that only white landowners, preferable those with slaves, should be allowed to vote? Silly liberals.

Yeah, things have been all downhill ever since we expanded the franchise.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 4:25:57am

re: #288 Nerdy Fish

Well, we already know this because Evangelical Christians are the ones out here promoting the “Jews killed Jesus” anti-semitic trope.

and Rothschild space laser consiracy theories. (although MTG claims that she was unaware that the Rothschilds were Jewish, which I am fully prepared to believe because she is really that that clueless)

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William Lewis  May 22, 2024 • 4:29:57am

re: #288 Nerdy Fish

Well, we already know this because Evangelical Christians are the ones out here promoting the “Jews killed Jesus” anti-semitic trope.

And there are a number of YouTube videos I’ve run into lately from the extremists shrieking about the new law against anti-Semitism because they “Can’t call Jews Christ Killers like the Bible says”

They start at vile and get worse quickly. Needless to say, YouTube refuses to do anything.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 4:32:09am

re: #291 Dr Lizardo

It’s certainly no secret that the Jewish people are little more than the Bible-thumpers masturbatory fodder for their End Times fantasies.

But again, it shows that their rabid pro-Israel stance has nothing to do with any concern for the people who live in that country.

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Nerdy Fish  May 22, 2024 • 4:33:22am

re: #295 William Lewis

The new anti-semitism law is deeply troubling in several ways, but “I can’t call Jews Christ-killers” is definitely not one of them. I mean, if anything, we should be buying Jews and Romans a beer, because according to Christian theology, Jesus had to die in order to fulfill the prophecies and do the work of salvation, so wouldn’t them conspiring to kill him be a good thing?

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Belafon  May 22, 2024 • 4:35:41am

re: #292 Shropshire Slasher

Let’s define a metric inch as two centimeters.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 22, 2024 • 4:38:56am

re: #297 Nerdy Fish

This is something that I’ve never understood — if Jesus was meant to die, why was it A Bad Thing(tm) to kill him?

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DodgerFan1988  May 22, 2024 • 4:42:45am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 4:43:04am

re: #299 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

This is something that I’ve never understood — if Jesus was meant to die, why was it A Bad Thing(tm) to kill him?

Because religion is irrational and therefore should not be used as a foundation for government.

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Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 4:43:39am

re: #290 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I believe that Vitamin B3 helps improve circulation, and it has been shown to suppress inflammation. I believe that I can meet all of my body’s needs for B3 through a healthy diet, including greens, meat, poultry, fish, and eggs.

That is my Niacin Creed.

+1

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 4:44:18am

re: #300 DodgerFan1988

“Returning the consequentiality to sex” is their code for “Returning women to their status as chattel to their fathers/husbands.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 4:44:39am

re: #298 Belafon

Let’s define a metric inch as two centimeters.

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Belafon  May 22, 2024 • 4:46:09am

re: #300 DodgerFan1988

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If a woman doesn’t want to take the pill and wait until marriage to have sex, that is her right. You don’t get to impose it on others.

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William Lewis  May 22, 2024 • 4:48:48am

re: #297 Nerdy Fish

The new anti-semitism law is deeply troubling in several ways, but “I can’t call Jews Christ-killers” is definitely not one of them. I mean, if anything, we should be buying Jews and Romans a beer, because according to Christian theology, Jesus had to die in order to fulfill the prophecies and do the work of salvation, so wouldn’t them conspiring to kill him be a good thing?

Well, it was purely Rome. They would have seen him as just another bandit leader/troublemaker who was, literally, better dead.

His followers then wrote up a good story to flatter a seriously nasty SOB (Pilate) to keep him from wacking them too though eventually most of them, according to received history, ended up dead anyway.

Now, that’s history rather than faith - in the side of faith, there is nothing that says that He didn’t ensure it happened that way and as you point out it is a matter of orthodox theology that He did.

The bill is a bad one but they’re Nucking Futz.

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Patricia Kayden  May 22, 2024 • 4:48:58am

re: #178 Mattand

President Biden wouldn’t kill Trump though. He’s a moral human being. The same can’t be said about Trump. He will kill Biden, Obama, Clinton, etc., if he wins. He’s made it obvious that revenge is his chief motivation for running.

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Nojay UK  May 22, 2024 • 4:50:09am

re: #299 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

This is something that I’ve never understood — if Jesus was meant to die, why was it A Bad Thing(tm) to kill him?

The Biblical story is that Jesus was arrested, tried, convicted and executed by Romans in the Roman manner. The problem is that the Pauline Christian church was established in Rome under eventual Roman imperial rule after Constantine so the Christians had to find someone else to blame for what the Romans did to their Godhead, and nobody liked the Jews.

It was only recently that Roman Catholic doctrine stopped officially declaring the Jews as the killers of Christ. Nearly all other Christian sects went along with that idea since the Two Minute Hate focussed at outsiders is a great recruitment tool for cults, and many such cults still propagate that belief for just that reason.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 4:50:14am

re: #307 Patricia Kayden

President Biden wouldn’t kill Trump though. He’s a moral human being. The same can’t be said about Trump. He will kill Biden, Obama, Clinton, etc., if he wins. He’s made it obvious that revenge is his chief motivation for running.

That is not the point: they need to be able to call on Stand Your Ground self-defense to justify all the shit they are going to pull in order to secure DJT’s re-election

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Nerdy Fish  May 22, 2024 • 4:51:30am

“…restoring sex to its true purpose.” I hate that phrase. If that’s what you want, then outlaw self-pleasuring for men, since that is not using his seed for its intended biological purpose.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 4:52:52am

re: #310 Nerdy Fish

“…restoring sex to its true purpose.” I hate that phrase. If that’s what you want, then outlaw self-pleasuring for men, since that is not using his seed for its intended biological purpose.

Every Sperm is Sacred!!!

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Shropshire Slasher  May 22, 2024 • 4:54:20am

Grape-nuts only belong on top of ice cream.

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Nerdy Fish  May 22, 2024 • 4:54:53am

re: #311 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Every Sperm is Sacred!!!

The funny thing is, this is unironically why they want to ban pornography, because many of them do believe masturbation is a sin (and therefore, like all sins, should be outlawed). They market it under the guise of “protecting children” because, as I’m sure you can imagine, banning pornography across the board is immensely unpopular, even amongst themselves.

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Decatur Deb  May 22, 2024 • 4:56:25am

re: #313 Nerdy Fish

Eating meat on a Friday in Lent should be a felony.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 5:01:06am

re: #313 Nerdy Fish

…and of course, gay sex, as it is not for purposes of procreation, should be banned entirely.

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Nerdy Fish  May 22, 2024 • 5:03:53am

re: #315 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…and of course, gay sex, as it is not for purposes of procreation, should be banned entirely.

This is an actual argument they make, yes. Alongside the whole “homosexuality in general is sinful and should be banned” argument.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 5:05:52am

re: #316 Nerdy Fish

This is an actual argument they make, yes. Alongside the whole “homosexuality in general is sinful and should be banned” argument.

It is an abdomination unto the Lord and must not be tolerated in our Godly society.

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Nerdy Fish  May 22, 2024 • 5:10:21am

re: #317 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is an abdomination unto the Lord and must not be tolerated in our Godly society.

It’s like they didn’t learn the lesson of the Pharisees, who took legalism to a whole new level, and whom Jesus ranted against at length in multiple soliloquys. Legislating morality is a terrible way to run both a religion and a country; non-believers will hate you for being forced to abide by laws that make no sense, and believers will hate you because your country is a third-world shithole and not the enlightened religious utopia you promised.

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lawhawk  May 22, 2024 • 5:12:05am

Smartmatic is alleging that Newsmax destroyed evidence that they were supposed to preserve and turn over.

Smartmatic alleges that Newsmax has destroyed evidence in the voting machine company’s lawsuit against the right-wing news channel over false claims that Smartmatic helped “rig” the 2020 election, according to court documents made public this week.

Lawyers for Florida-based Smartmatic allege that Newsmax engaged in a “cover-up” by destroying texts and emails of key executives that would demonstrate the network’s knowledge that voting fraud claims being pushed by former President Donald Trump and his allies were untrue. Smartmatic says the deletions occurred after Newsmax had received notice to preserve evidence for the pending suit.

The lawsuit is just one of many major defamation cases filed by Smartmatic and Dominion Voting Systems against news organizations over false claims about fraud in 2020 election. Most are still pending, and several may go to trial this fall — ensuring that Trump’s claims about a “rigged election” in 2020 will continue to be a focus even as the next presidential election nears.

This isn’t going to end well for Newsmax. Courts don’t look favorably on parties that tamper/destroy evidence.

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Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 5:13:11am

scuba diving using the metric system is a snap
everything is in factors of 10
pressure, depth, volume, air consumption etc

that sure helps when you’re underwater and need to do re-calculations

it’s simple. i understand it fine.

i tried ‘converting’ to the metric system twice.
change pre-dive planning tables to meters, change pressure gauge to bar, change computer to metric mode. on the surface, im fine.

my in the water experience was dismaying.
i was so ingrained with the stupid, idiotic, moronic imperial numbers that i could never get comfortable.

14.7 psi vs (essentially) 1 bar
33 feet vs 10 meters
80 cubic feet of air at 3000 psi vs 2300 liters at 200 bar etc

yeah, i can do this nonsense in my head:
SAC = (PSI at depth used/time) x 33/(depth+33).

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 5:13:37am

re: #313 Nerdy Fish

The funny thing is, this is unironically why they want to ban pornography, because many of them do believe masturbation is a sin (and therefore, like all sins, should be outlawed). They market it under the guise of “protecting children” because, as I’m sure you can imagine, banning pornography across the board is immensely unpopular, even amongst themselves.

Hence why, instead out outright bans, they keep trying to institute restrictions and barriers that they claim are “for the children,” but are easily circumvented by any moderately intelligent child and are really little more than efforts to frustrate adults who aren’t tech-savvy enough or unwilling to now pay a price for what was previously “free” porn.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 5:15:02am

re: #318 Nerdy Fish

According to Dominionists and Theocrats, God favors our Nation to the extent that our laws reflect (their interpretation of) His Divine Will.

And since they see homosexuality and sexual promiscuity and socilialzed medicine and trade unions and free school lunches and forgiving student loans as violations of Divine Law, these must all be banished forthwith or God will no longer grant us his Most Favored Nations status and confer it instead on Russia, which they would view as a real humiliation…

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Belafon  May 22, 2024 • 5:16:27am

re: #320 Dangerman

Ground beef is sold in 2.2 pound packages.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 5:16:44am

re: #321 Targetpractice

Hence why, instead out outright bans, they keep trying to institute restrictions and barriers that they claim are “for the children,” but are easily circumvented by any moderately intelligent child and are really little more than efforts to frustrate adults who aren’t tech-savvy enough or unwilling to now pay a price for what was previously “free” porn.

Like porn sex, their piety is purely performative.

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Rightwingconspirator  May 22, 2024 • 5:22:39am

re: #323 Belafon

Ground beef is sold in 2.2 pound packages.

Not sure if a “half kilo combo” has the same ring to it as the Quarter Pounder. //

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 5:23:32am

One eurodecimal thing I cannot figure is that eggs here are sold in cartons of 10 instead of a dozen. You can also get small cartons of 6 eggs, but it is rare to find a dozen eggs in a carton.

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lawhawk  May 22, 2024 • 5:24:45am

re: #325 Rightwingconspirator

We are dumber than a bag of hammers as a nation- there’s a longstanding story in the restaurant fast food business where a company sought to compete with Burger King’s Quarter pounder with a 1/3 pound burger, and people thought they were getting less than Burger King’s product.

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Randall Gross  May 22, 2024 • 5:27:24am

re: #326 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One eurodecimal thing I cannot figure is that eggs here are sold in cartons of 10 instead of a dozen. You can also get small cartons of 6 eggs, but it is rare to find a dozen eggs in a carton.

Eggs should be sold in multiples of 3 because four egg omelets are just dumb.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 5:27:39am

I was told why Britain rejected the metric system: a traditional British piss artist goes to the pub at 5pm and drinks seven pints. That is, one pint per hour and one at closing time.

If he were to drink seven half-liters instead, he would come up four-fifths of a pint short and that just will not do.

(I pint = 0.56 liters, hence 7 x .06 liters = .42 liters)

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JC1  May 22, 2024 • 5:28:43am

re: #327 lawhawk

We are dumber than a bag of hammers as a nation- there’s a longstanding story in the restaurant fast food business where a company sought to compete with Burger King’s Quarter pounder with a 1/3 pound burger, and people thought they were getting less than Burger King’s product.

Simple solution: sell 1/5 lb burgers and charge more. Win(more revenue)/Win(lower cost)/Win(fewer calories/less type 2 diabetes/lower healthcare costs).

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BlueSpotinAL ✅  May 22, 2024 • 5:28:58am

re: #325 Rightwingconspirator

Not sure if a “half kilo combo” has the same ring to it as the Quarter Pounder. //

Quarter pounder is closer to 100g, a common unit price in communist units.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 5:29:13am

re: #327 lawhawk

We are dumber than a bag of hammers as a nation- there’s a longstanding story in the restaurant fast food business where a company sought to compete with Burger King’s Quarter pounder with a 1/3 pound burger, and people thought they were getting less than Burger King’s product.

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Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 5:29:38am

tfg said this yesterday:

We’re looking at that, and I’m going to have a policy on that very shortly, and I think it’s something you’ll find interesting. I think it’s a smart decision. We’ll be releasing it very soon.

it was in response to the contraception question

and it’s gibberish
and generic
and meaningless
the same stock response he has to everything
he is never specific
always ‘it’s coming’

i think he’ll be unmasked in the first debate

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 5:30:37am

re: #324 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Like porn sex, their piety is purely performative.

On the surface, it is. But overall, the plan is to outlaw pornography by simply suffocating it with increasing costs and scrutiny until the persons or companies operating in the US simply cannot make a profit any longer while those outside the US judge selling to American customers to be not worth the cost.

Up until now, the tactic was to issue baseless accusations of such sites distributing illegal genres of porn (ex: CP, rape, revenge porn, etc) and then use that as an excuse to either launch endless fishing expeditions or threaten banks with fines and boycotts for doing business with those sites. But they’re expanding their attacks, with one tactic being to broaden the list of illegal porn or expanding existing ones to include porn that previously didn’t fall under legal scrutiny, while the other tactic is to add/increase the cost of “free” porn by forcing their customers to either use things like VPNs to get around ID barriers or else submit personal data that they don’t feel comfortable giving to a private entity.

All of this “for the children,” of course./////

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 5:30:50am

re: #333 Dangerman

tfg said this yesterday:

it was in response to the contraception question

He wants to “send it back to the states” but allow Federal judges to rule that state laws can somehow apply to other states

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 5:32:10am

re: #332 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Meanwhile, all your 10mm sockets have disappeared to Narnia.

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 5:36:07am

re: #335 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He wants to “send it back to the states” but allow Federal judges to rule that state laws can somehow apply to other states

I.e. the Fugitive Slave Laws strategy: “North Carolina says condoms are illegal to own, so Virginia’s gotta enforce those laws and ban condom sales as well!”

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Nojay UK  May 22, 2024 • 5:38:18am

re: #329 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I was told why Britain rejected the metric system:
If he were to drink seven half-liters instead, he would come up nearly a half-pint short and that just will not do. (I pint = 0.56 liters, hence 7 x .06 liters = .42 liters)

American pints are four-fifths of a British (Imperial) pint, just for the record. And it’s 568mL.

Beer is important. A publican in Britain who served short measures could be prosecuted for doing so under the colour of law. It’s still a thing that beer glasses in the UK are marked and certified as being full measure pints (20 fl. oz). It used to be a little crown marking, nowadays it’s the UK Conformity Assessment (UKCA) logo.

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Nerdy Fish  May 22, 2024 • 5:41:09am

re: #337 Targetpractice

I.e. the Fugitive Slave Laws strategy: “North Carolina says condoms are illegal to own, so Virginia’s gotta enforce those laws and ban condom sales as well!”

That is the objective of things such as the ban on traveling using roads for abortions, and Ken Paxton going full metal asshole and demanding to see records for transgender patients from Texas in Washington State hospitals. They are intent on abusing the long-arm principle of the law (where in certain specific circumstances, someone in one state can be sued in another state) to its maximum extent to try to enforce their draconian religious laws everywhere they can reach.

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Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 5:43:01am

re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

According to Dominionists and Theocrats, God favors our Nation to the extent that our laws reflect (their interpretation of) His Divine Will.

And since they see homosexuality and sexual promiscuity and socilialzed medicine and trade unions and free school lunches and forgiving student loans as violations of Divine Law, these must all be banished forthwith or God will no longer grant us his Most Favored Nations status and confer it instead on Russia, which they would view as a real humiliation…

i think i see the flaw in their argument
it’s not about what ‘they see’ (or better think they see)
it’s awfully brazen to claim to know the will of god with certainty, because if you did, that would make you…

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Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 5:44:29am

re: #323 Belafon

Ground beef is sold in 2.2 pound packages.

yeah but you dont have to divide it by altitude to figure how much to put in the bolognese

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sagehen  May 22, 2024 • 5:45:17am

re: #310 Nerdy Fish

“…restoring sex to its true purpose.” I hate that phrase. If that’s what you want, then outlaw self-pleasuring for men, since that is not using his seed for its intended biological purpose.

We have evidence that reproduction is not God’s only purpose for human sex.

What’s my evidence? Because all the other animals — mammals, amphibians, fish, birds, insects, etc — only have sexual arousal and sexual completion during their fertile time. Humans can find sexual arousal and sexual pleasure every single day of the year. Even if they’re years past fertility, or missing parts and infertile for that reason.

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jeffreyw  May 22, 2024 • 5:48:15am

Good morning!

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Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 5:48:48am

re: #335 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He wants to “send it back to the states” but allow Federal judges to rule that state laws can somehow apply to other states

im not sure he understood the question, but that’s just me

if he did, then he wasnt going for iuds or condoms.
it has to be the abortifacient pills.

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Nerdy Fish  May 22, 2024 • 5:50:07am

re: #342 sagehen

Oh, I 100% agree. I’ve long since come to realize that the Biblical references to “sexual immorality” all refer to one of two circumstances:
1) Marital unfaithfulness;
2) Sexual intercourse with ritual prostitutes as part of a religious ceremony.

The Bible says nothing specifically about sexual intercourse as a casual pleasurable activity, outside of those constraints.

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Eventual Carrion  May 22, 2024 • 5:52:22am

re: #82 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

I’ve wondered about this. When I was a kid, I was very skeptical of Grape Nuts because I thought they were like raisin seeds.

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“Wrath” is a funny entry

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 5:53:58am

re: #340 Dangerman

i think i see the flaw in their argument
it’s not about what ‘they see’ (or better think they see)
it’s awfully brazen to claim to know the will of god with certainty, because if you did, that would make you…

God’s Chosen Disciples

which is how they see themselves.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 5:55:51am

re: #344 Dangerman

im not sure he understood the question, but that’s just me

if he did, then he wasnt going for iuds or condoms.
it has to be the abortifacient pills.

see #337 and #339 above: the Fugitive Slave Act approach, or Texas’ current anti-abortion laws.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 6:01:34am

re: #342 sagehen

We have evidence that reproduction is not God’s only purpose for human sex.

What’s my evidence? Because all the other animals — mammals, amphibians, fish, birds, insects, etc — only have sexual arousal and sexual completion during their fertile time. Humans can find sexual arousal and sexual pleasure every single day of the year. Even if they’re years past fertility, or missing parts and infertile for that reason.

Some anthropologist point out that humans uniquely combine two traits: walking upright and year-round mating season.

This, they explained is because for most species, there is a season in which the mother can provide enough food for her offspring, and other times when she cannot, hence for a part of the year she is not sexually active or receptive.

But, they pointed out, if you can walk upright, you can access more food and carry it to the potential mate, inticing her to want to reproduce: “Just look at these yams!”

So basically women are responsible for us walking upright. Which explains why my wife always got so upset when she saw me crawling home from the pub…

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Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 6:06:31am

re: #347 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

God’s Chosen Disciples

which is how they see themselves.

being god’s anointed ones would be kind of a big deal
i mean huge. cosmic. world shaking.
after all, it maybe only happened that one other time
ever
in the history of time

so if you’re gonna claim it, then you need something more than “because i say its so”.
otherwise, you got nothing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 6:08:14am

re: #350 Dangerman

so if you’re gonna claim it, then you need something more than “because i say its so”.
otherwise, you got nothing.

They usually have a lot of money and political influence, which they see as having been given to them by God as Proof of his Covenant.

This has been going on for a long time.

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 6:08:37am

re: #344 Dangerman

im not sure he understood the question, but that’s just me

if he did, then he wasnt going for iuds or condoms.
it has to be the abortifacient pills.

It doesn’t really matter what he means, for the right amount of money he’ll ban it all and argue that he’s been a long time supporter of such bans.

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Nerdy Fish  May 22, 2024 • 6:08:49am

re: #351 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They usually have a lot of money and political influence, which they see as having been given to them by God as Proof of his Covenant.

This has been going on for a long time.

The Prosperity Gospel.

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Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 6:09:05am

re: #349 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…
But, they pointed out, if you can walk upright, you can access more food and carry it to the potential mate, inticing her to want to reproduce: “Just look at these yams!”
…

i wonder if they’re both saying that to each other…

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Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 6:11:09am

re: #351 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They usually have a lot of money and political influence, which they see as having been given to them by God as Proof of his Covenant.

This has been going on for a long time.

oh i know, but it’s all self promotion and misdirection

there’s a lot of rich people with political influence who don’t think they’re ‘the one’

as long as there are enough rubes…

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Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 6:13:13am

re: #352 Targetpractice

It doesn’t really matter what he means, for the right amount of money he’ll ban it all and argue that he’s been a long time supporter of such bans.

pre-election if they find it’s hurting in the polls and he’ll reverse on a dime and claim he never said it

schroedinger’s politician

stands for nothing specific even after you open the box

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 6:18:36am

re: #356 Dangerman

pre-election if they find it’s hurting in the polls and he’ll reverse on a dime and claim he never said it

schroedinger’s politician

stands for nothing specific even after you open the box

He also knows that whatever he says, people will step up and spin it for him.

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 6:20:32am

Bakari Sellers laughs at Mike Dubke’s defense of Trump’s contraception reversal

MAGAts: “HE SPEAKS HIS MIND WITHOUT WORRY! HE MEANS WHAT HE SAYS!”

Also MAGAts: “Well, what he really meant was…”

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Nerdy Fish  May 22, 2024 • 6:22:10am

re: #358 Targetpractice

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MAGAts: “HE SPEAKS HIS MIND WITHOUT WORRY! HE MEANS WHAT HE SAYS!”

Also MAGAts: “Well, what he really meant was…”

They treat him almost like they treat God; they worship his plain words, but then they feel obligated to reinterpret those words in order to mean what they want them to mean.

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lawhawk  May 22, 2024 • 6:25:55am

Norman Ornstein
@NormOrnstein

Trump blasts out ad referring to a unified Reich. Not a mention on the front pages of the NYT or WaPo. Sleepwalking to a vicious dictatorship.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 6:27:18am

It’s from X (sorry):

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 6:27:35am

re: #359 Nerdy Fish

They treat him almost like they treat God; they worship his plain words, but then they feel obligated to reinterpret those words in order to mean what they want them to mean.

The thing that people really need to bear in mind when listening to this “What he really meant was…” BS is it’s not for the consumption of his followers because they believe that their faith in him will be rewarded and he’s saying whatever he has to. It’s to keep the “moderates” and “independents” from jumping ship, the ones who are actually worried about looking their friends in the face on Election Day +1 and justifying their vote.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 6:27:47am

re: #359 Nerdy Fish

They treat him almost like they treat God; they worship his plain words, but then they feel obligated to reinterpret those words in order to mean what they want them to mean.

Remember Kellyanne Conway: “Don’t listen to his words, listen to what is in his heart!”

He is still able to present himself (at least to his followers) as a blank canvas on which they can project their image of the ideal President.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 22, 2024 • 6:28:27am

re: #244 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This could have been better. 4/6

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Howdy all! Happy whatever-today-is!

I’ll take the par.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 22, 2024 • 6:29:44am

re: #282 steve_davis

Mormons do not believe in the Holy Trinity, according to my brief dip into Wikipedia. They can call themselves whatever they want, but if you can’t make it through the Nicene Creed, you are literally not a Christian. Unitarians are delightful people, but they also are not Christians. Nor are Jews or Muslims, both of which groups believe Jesus lived, but who either consider him a madman or a prophet.

Do Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Believe in the Trinity? (LDS Official Site)

They say they do.

Most Protestant sects do not use the Nicene Creed. Which one is the “true” one, the one of 325CE or the one of 381CE, since apparently Christianity is eternal and unchanging by your declaration?

And by that declaration, Trinitarians are the “no true Christians,” since Biblical scholars largely agree 1 John 5:7 is an example of of Biblical gloss, or an annotation in the margins of the Greek text, rather than an original verse. In most of the world’s Christianity outside of the USA, that verse does not appear in the New Testament. (They’re not True Christians.)

Before the Council of Nicea, and especially before the II Century, Trinitarianism wasn’t a concept. Early church fathers (and they were always men) started hinting at it around 110 CE.

Or, we could say Methodists and many other Protestant sects aren’t True Christians (tm) because they directly go against the New Testament and allow women to be preachers.

Or we could do the religious equivalent of intentionally misgendering people, even after that has been corrected.

From this non-Christian’s viewpoint, they’re all Christians. Protestants all use the same abridging of the Bible introduced after Martin Luther tinkered with it (so maybe all Protestants aren’t True Christians since they altered the Bible, or maybe Catholics aren’t, because they altered it before and after that). Or maybe Catholics who celebrate Mass in vernacular languages are the No True Christians, since that got foisted off on the Church like a common Mormon bishop suddenly having a revelation that it was okay for Black people to become bishops (right around the time Mormons were in danger of losing their schools’ tax breaks like a common segregationist Protestant).

Or maybe a mythology as vast and enduring as Christianity, with nearly two billion people in it, has more than “one true” anything.

Or maybe you just want to other anyone who doesn’t believe exactly as you do in Christianity. Naw, isn’t that.

Maybe I should go ask the woman who is the pastor of the Lutheran church across the street from my house if she’s a True Christian (tm), since she’s a woman teaching in church with an adulterated version of the Bible.

I’m sure that would go well.

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Romantic Heretic  May 22, 2024 • 6:30:03am

re: #225 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Mr. President? They’ve fired on Fort Polk.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 6:30:17am

re: #361 Dr Lizardo

Suddeutsche Zeitung reports that a cache of explosives & detonators was found *deliberately buried* just hundreds of meters from a section of the NATO oil/refined products pipeline network southwest of Heidelberg, Germany.

Russia (and all the Putinverstehers) will call it a false flag designed to rally further support for the Zionist/Fascist/Soros-controlled Puppet State of Ukraine

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 6:30:28am

re: #360 lawhawk

One candidate all but revives “Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer.”

The other candidate mixes up the name of another nation’s leader.

According to the “liberal media,” it’s the second candidate that we should worry about giving another term.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 6:31:21am

re: #362 Targetpractice

The thing that people really need to bear in mind when listening to this “What he really meant was…” BS is it’s not for the consumption of his followers because they believe that their faith in him will be rewarded and he’s saying whatever he has to. It’s to keep the “moderates” and “independents” from jumping ship, the ones who are actually worried about looking their friends in the face on Election Day +1 and justifying their vote.

They are worried about where they can send their daughters/girlfriends/mistresses, etc. after Inauguration Day if they get knocked up

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 22, 2024 • 6:31:25am

This is how effective the 24/7 Republican Bullshit Machine is.

Majority of Americans wrongly believe US is in recession - and most blame Biden

Nearly three in five Americans wrongly believe the US is in an economic recession, and the majority blame the Biden administration, according to a Harris poll conducted exclusively for the Guardian. The survey found persistent pessimism about the economy as election day draws closer.

The poll highlighted many misconceptions people have about the economy, including:

55% believe the economy is shrinking, and 56% think the US is experiencing a recession, though the broadest measure of the economy, gross domestic product (GDP), has been growing.
49% believe the S&P 500 stock market index is down for the year, though the index went up about 24% in 2023 and is up more than 12% this year.
49% believe that unemployment is at a 50-year high, though the unemployment rate has been under 4%, a near 50-year low.
Many Americans put the blame on Biden for the state of the economy, with 58% of those polled saying the economy is worsening due to mismanagement from the presidential administration.

The poll underscored people’s complicated emotions around inflation. The vast majority of respondents, 72%, indicated they think inflation is increasing. In reality, the rate of inflation has fallen sharply from its post-Covid peak of 9.1% and has been fluctuating between 3% and 4% a year.

In April, the inflation rate went down from 3.5% to 3.4% - far from inflation’s 40-year peak of 9.1% in June 2022 - triggering a stock market rally that pushed the Dow Jones index to a record high.

A recession is generally defined by a decrease in economic activity, typically measured as gross domestic product (GDP), over two successive quarters, although in the US the National Bureau of Economic Research (NEBR) has the final say. US GDP has been rising over the last few years, barring a brief contraction in 2022, which the NEBR did not deem a recession.

theguardian.com

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Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 6:33:28am

re: #357 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He also knows that whatever he says, people will step up and spin it for him.

Everything tfg says wrong the press explains what he meant
Everything biden says is a fatal old person disaster

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Romantic Heretic  May 22, 2024 • 6:33:39am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Humans love to hate.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 6:33:44am

re: #367 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Russia (and all the Putinverstehers) will call it a false flag designed to rally further support for the Zionist/Fascist/Soros-controlled Puppet State of Ukraine

LOL they can go fuck themselves.

We are in a war with the Russians. It hasn’t been officially declared, and I get that people are gravely concerned, but it’s time to stop playing nice.

The only way to negotiate with Russia is with our boot on their neck. That is the language they understand.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 22, 2024 • 6:34:05am

From NBC: RNC HQ under lockdown after being sent vials of blood.

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Teukka  May 22, 2024 • 6:34:35am

re: #361 Dr Lizardo

It’s from X (sorry):

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I believe we will have a major difficult-to-attribute sabotage or terrorism in the near future here in Europe.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 6:35:44am

re: #373 Dr Lizardo

LOL they can go fuck themselves.

We are in a war with the Russians. It hasn’t been officially declared, and I get that people are gravely concerned, but it’s time to stop playing nice.

The only way to negotiate with Russia is with our boot on their neck. That is the language they understand.

They have declared war on humanity and international norms, so that is how we have to deal with them.

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 6:35:51am

re: #370 Joe Bacon ✅

The “liberal media” that prints a story about job losses and higher prices next to a story about polling showing people think the economy has gone tits up, both above an editorial asking who is misleading Americans about the state of the economy when all the indicators show that we’re experiencing a better economic picture that most of the rest of the world.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 6:36:13am

re: #375 Teukka

I believe we will have a major difficult-to-attribute sabotage or terrorism in the near future here in Europe.

I’m about 99% sure of it. The Russians are gonna pull something here, either sabotage of critical infrastructure or a terrorist act.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 6:36:47am

re: #376 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They have declared war on humanity and international norms, so that is how we have to deal with them.

Indeed - the problem is getting Western leaders to understand this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 6:37:02am

re: #375 Teukka

I believe we will have a major difficult-to-attribute sabotage or terrorism in the near future here in Europe.

They already did in the form of the Nordstream Pipeline

But that was rendered irrelevant by two mild winters in a row and a successful conversion to LNG and alternate sources of energy

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dat_said  May 22, 2024 • 6:37:14am

re: #251 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They just remind us that the ultimate goal of AI is to make real-life actors and actresses as superfluous as drivers in autonomous vehicles.

Don’t forget writers.

And the Oscar for Best Adapted Screenplay goes Alan Smithee Sudowrite

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 6:37:27am

re: #378 Dr Lizardo

I’m about 99% sure of it. The Russians are gonna pull something here, either sabotage or critical infrastructure or a terrorist act.

I liked Red Storm Rising when it was a novel, damnit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 6:39:33am

re: #381 dat_said

Don’t forget writers.

And the Oscar for Best Adapted Screenplay goes Alan Smithee Sudowrite

There was a ST Voyager episode that touched on this very topic, Author, Author

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 22, 2024 • 6:39:42am

re: #300 DodgerFan1988

You notice how so many Christians never hold men responsible for their irresponsible ejaculations, without which no women would become pregnant (because they want to outlaw IVF as well)?

I’m not a fan of the death penalty, but I’ll bet if you executed men who irresponsibly made women pregnant, you’d also have consequences for “irresponsible sex.”

Take Libertarian Kevin Williamson’s (the guy The Atlantic keeps trying to foist off on their readership) idea of hanging any woman who had an abortion from a lamppost, and instead make it men. I’ll bet he’d have a thousand reasons why a reversal of his position is “wrong.”

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Eventual Carrion  May 22, 2024 • 6:40:09am

re: #155 jaunte

De Limited Spectrum

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The freest state for you to do exactly what the fuck we tell you to do.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 6:40:33am

re: #384 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Betty Friedan: “If men got pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament”

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 22, 2024 • 6:41:37am

Yet another “I got mine and Fuck You” Republican exposed.

North Carolina Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson, now running for governor on a platform that includes blasting social programs as a “plantation of welfare and victimhood” that creates “dependency” for Black people, actually owed his own personal and political fortunes to profiting off these programs in the first place.

According to the Associated Press, “Over the past decade, Robinson’s household has relied on income from Balanced Nutrition Inc., a nonprofit founded by his wife, Yolanda Hill, that administered a free lunch program for North Carolina children. The organization, funded entirely by taxpayers, has collected roughly $7 million in government funding since 2017, while paying out at least $830,000 in salaries to Hill, Robinson and other members of their family, tax filings and state documents show.”

Indeed, the report said, Robinson’s career “wouldn’t have been possible without it.”

“The income offered the Robinsons a degree of stability after decades of struggle that included multiple bankruptcies, home foreclosure and misdemeanor charges — later dropped — for writing bad checks. In Robinson’s telling, the financial turnaround provided by the organization also allowed for his ascent into the North Carolina government,” the report continued — noting that Robinson credits the income from these programs for how he was able to quit his job in furniture manufacturing to work in politics.

This also comes after recent reporting that showed Robinson failed to file taxes for five years.

Robinson, a MAGA loyalist whom former President Donald Trump has praised as “Martin Luther King on steroids,” was first elected as lieutenant governor in 2020, has a history of extreme and controversial views.

apnews.com

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 6:42:44am

re: #384 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You notice how so many Christians never hold men responsible for their irresponsible ejaculations, without which no women would become pregnant (because they want to outlaw IVF as well)?

I’m not a fan of the death penalty, but I’ll bet if you executed men who irresponsibly made women pregnant, you’d also have consequences for “irresponsible sex.”

Take Libertarian Kevin Williamson’s (the guy The Atlantic keeps trying to foist off on their readership) idea of hanging any woman who had an abortion from a lamppost, and instead make it men. I’ll bet he’d have a thousand reasons why a reversal of his position is “wrong.”

Most of which, when you got past the superfluous BS, would boil down to “Women are harlots who deserve punishment for tempting men to sin,” a position that they regularly slagged all Muslims when trying to present the “Christian” West as “civilized.”

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silverdolphin  May 22, 2024 • 6:43:25am

re: #370 Joe Bacon ✅

This is how effective the 24/7 Republican Bullshit Machine is.

Majority of Americans wrongly believe US is in recession - and most blame Biden

Nearly three in five Americans wrongly believe the US is in an economic recession, and the majority blame the Biden administration, according to a Harris poll conducted exclusively for the Guardian. The survey found persistent pessimism about the economy as election day draws closer.

The poll highlighted many misconceptions people have about the economy, including:

55% believe the economy is shrinking, and 56% think the US is experiencing a recession, though the broadest measure of the economy, gross domestic product (GDP), has been growing.
49% believe the S&P 500 stock market index is down for the year, though the index went up about 24% in 2023 and is up more than 12% this year.
49% believe that unemployment is at a 50-year high, though the unemployment rate has been under 4%, a near 50-year low.
Many Americans put the blame on Biden for the state of the economy, with 58% of those polled saying the economy is worsening due to mismanagement from the presidential administration.

The poll underscored people’s complicated emotions around inflation. The vast majority of respondents, 72%, indicated they think inflation is increasing. In reality, the rate of inflation has fallen sharply from its post-Covid peak of 9.1% and has been fluctuating between 3% and 4% a year.

In April, the inflation rate went down from 3.5% to 3.4% - far from inflation’s 40-year peak of 9.1% in June 2022 - triggering a stock market rally that pushed the Dow Jones index to a record high.

A recession is generally defined by a decrease in economic activity, typically measured as gross domestic product (GDP), over two successive quarters, although in the US the National Bureau of Economic Research (NEBR) has the final say. US GDP has been rising over the last few years, barring a brief contraction in 2022, which the NEBR did not deem a recession.

theguardian.com

There is increasing data suggesting that most polls like this reflect GOP hatred of Biden. They do not reflect good faith views of how people feel. Republicans will almost universally say whatever makes Biden look bad. If 90% of Republicans say there is a recession and blame Biden, plus 15-20% of Democrats/Independents, you get these numbers.

As long as Republicans would rather attack Biden than state the truth, these polls will lie.

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lawhawk  May 22, 2024 • 6:45:32am

The media is failing us.

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 6:46:01am

re: #389 silverdolphin

There is increasing data suggesting that most polls like this reflect GOP hatred of Biden. They do not reflect good faith views of how people feel. Republicans will almost universally say whatever makes Biden look bad. If 90% of Republicans say there is a recession and blame Biden, plus 15-20% of Democrats/Independents, you get these numbers.

As long as Republicans would rather attack Biden than state the truth, these polls will lie.

I’d argue there’s also a psychological element to it, that many voters can be convinced that the economy is in “decline” by getting them to focus on their own personal finances (i.e. the “kitchen table budgeting”) and attributing any hardship to government failures rather than the reality that wage growth has failed to keep up with inflation and the fault for that rests entirely upon the same businesses that have raised their prices to take advantage of media hype about “supply issues” and “increased costs.”

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JC1  May 22, 2024 • 6:47:32am

re: #389 silverdolphin

There is increasing data suggesting that most polls like this reflect GOP hatred of Biden. They do not reflect good faith views of how people feel. Republicans will almost universally say whatever makes Biden look bad. If 90% of Republicans say there is a recession and blame Biden, plus 15-20% of Democrats/Independents, you get these numbers.

As long as Republicans would rather attack Biden than state the truth, these polls will lie.

The cross tabs didn’t look better in this poll. The Indies were over 50% and the Dems were over 40%.
People instinctively associate inflation with recession, even though recessions tend to be deflationary.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 22, 2024 • 6:47:49am

re: #340 Dangerman

i think i see the flaw in their argument
it’s not about what ‘they see’ (or better think they see)
it’s awfully brazen to claim to know the will of god with certainty, because if you did, that would make you…

… George Burns. /s

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 22, 2024 • 6:49:09am

re: #344 Dangerman

im not sure he understood the question, but that’s just me

if he did, then he wasnt going for iuds or condoms.
it has to be the abortifacient pills.

Both of those would be outlawed if the Comstock Acts come back in force.

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silverdolphin  May 22, 2024 • 6:49:09am

re: #390 lawhawk

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Data indicates that these polls do not really measure what people believe, as they measure the hatred Republicans have for Biden. They will tell a pollster whatever hurts Biden the most. Their income could have gone up 2-fold but they would still tell the pollster a lie to hurt Biden. These are not good faith answers to a pollster but are attacks on Biden.

As long as Republicans would rather attack Biden than state the truth, these polls will lie.

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 6:49:29am

See also the “Wall St v Main St” from the media during the Obama years, when the economic recovery from the Great Recession was constantly talked down because despite the stock market recovering its losses and making gains from 2010 forward and all the economic indicators in the green by 2012, the media spent every other moment whining that none of this was being reflected in paychecks and thus Obama hadn’t really done anything to “fix” the economy.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 6:49:39am

re: #392 JC1

The cross tabs didn’t look better in this poll. The Indies were over 50% and the Dems were over 40%.
People instinctively associate inflation with recession, even though recessions tend to be deflationary.

Arguably, one of the ways to combat high inflation is to engineer a soft-landing recession. No easy feat, to be sure, and it takes some damned skilled economists to pull that off.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 22, 2024 • 6:51:28am

re: #353 Nerdy Fish

The Prosperity Gospel.

Calvanism, the One True Christianity (tm). It says right there in the New Testament that if you do not work, you shall not eat.

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JC1  May 22, 2024 • 6:52:22am

re: #397 Dr Lizardo

Arguably, one of the ways to combat high inflation is to engineer a soft-landing recession. No easy feat, to be sure, and it takes some damned skilled economists to pull that off.

The question around inflation is also confusing: inflation is still increasing, it’s the rate of the increase that’s lower. 3% inflation is still and increase in inflation of 3%.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 6:53:10am

re: #398 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Calvanism, the One True Christianity (tm). It says right there in the New Testament that if you do not work, you shall not eat.

So did Lenin.

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A Cranky One  May 22, 2024 • 6:55:37am

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 22, 2024 • 6:56:31am

re: #390 lawhawk

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It’s not that “the media is failing us”.

It’s that the Corporate Controlled Conservative Press is All In for Trump.

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darthstar  May 22, 2024 • 6:57:47am

Make crime wrong again.

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silverdolphin  May 22, 2024 • 6:59:24am

re: #391 Targetpractice

I’d argue there’s also a psychological element to it, that many voters can be convinced that the economy is in “decline” by getting them to focus on their own personal finances (i.e. the “kitchen table budgeting”) and attributing any hardship to government failures rather than the reality that wage growth has failed to keep up with inflation and the fault for that rests entirely upon the same businesses that have raised their prices to take advantage of media hype about “supply issues” and “increased costs.”

Maybe, but that is also a narrative the media/elites want to push. It may have been true at one time. But now, politics has invaded everything and people will lie on a poll to hurt or help Biden.

I linked to a paper a few days ago that looked at this. When one examined poll numbers, one saw that people who said their income decreased the last 2 years hated Biden, while those who said their income increased liked Biden. Nice correlation.

But, the pollsters actualy had data independent of what the people surveyed said about their income. That data showed what their income really was.

When they graphed the real income effects vs Biden approval, there was no correlation. High income, low income. The approval for Biden was the same. The people who hated Biden were lying on the polls, as were those that liked Biden. There was no way to separate out the political views from anything else if one relied on just what people said. One could predict the answers someone gave based almost entirely on their approval of Biden.

These polls now mostly reflect how people feel about Biden than how they really see today’s economy.

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retired cynic  May 22, 2024 • 6:59:26am

An extraordinarily important legal decision just dropped, and no one is talking about it
Judd Legum
popular.info

I apologize if this has been posted already. I find it very important indeed. Almost certainly our present SCOTUS will strike it down, if it gets that far, but it could start something that builds to overturn it. I fear only a handful of Democratic politicians will support it, in these times, but it gives something to hope for.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 22, 2024 • 7:00:07am

re: #272 William Lewis

But if he pushes back against the ICC himself (considering the blowback with the SoS) he _will_ lose the youth vote and that will probably be enough to put Trump back in office. The kids are furious over the support for the Netanyahu regime and it’s enough to keep them at home despite the other vital issues. Yes it’s a “cut off your nose to spite your face” kind of thing but Bibi is more in their face - more visceral - than Hamas to them even for those who understand that Hamas is equally evil.

That’s assuming a lot. Despite what the media said, the protests weren’t all that big, judging by arrests (where they happened) about half the protesters were not affiliated with the colleges, and they didn’t draw huge crowds of nonparticipants. (Demonstrations at Cal drew numbers in the very low hundreds, on a campus with 30,000 faculty, staff and students). The really “large” ones (see previous) took place in New York and California, which aren’t going to flip red because of this. I think there’s really a question about how many supporters they had and have, no matter how much noise they make (and how much time the media spends on shiny noisy objects.

Which doesn’t change the fact that it would be nice to find some sort of resolution to the issues, but I see two serious obstacles to that: the Israeli government and the Palestinian leadership. (I’ve been watching this since the six day war in 1967, after all.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 22, 2024 • 7:02:29am

re: #386 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Betty Friedan: “If men got pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament”

I can’t claim credit for the “irresponsible ejaculation” quip.

That comes from a Mormon woman. Short version (4:43)

‘Ejaculate Responsibly’ writer shifts pregnancy focus to men

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silverdolphin  May 22, 2024 • 7:07:18am

re: #392 JC1

The cross tabs didn’t look better in this poll. The Indies were over 50% and the Dems were over 40%.
People instinctively associate inflation with recession, even though recessions tend to be deflationary.

yeah, I focussed too much on the Republicans and making it seem like that explains all.. There are a lot of Democrats mad at Biden also. The point I am making is that the polls are likely misleading because so many people are lying on the polls to support their poltical position, not to support reality. It does not have to be everyone (ie lots of people confusing inflation, recession, etc.) Maybe 20-30% would be enough to contaminate the results.

I am becoming more certain that when we see a poll that seems to indicate how stupid the American people are, it may well reflect the fact that a good percentage of people surveyed have personal reasons for lying to the pollster, rather than all are idiots.

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 7:07:42am

re: #405 retired cynic

An extraordinarily important legal decision just dropped, and no one is talking about it
Judd Legum
popular.info

I apologize if this has been posted already. I find it very important indeed. Almost certainly our present SCOTUS will strike it down, if it gets that far, but it could start something that builds to overturn it. I fear only a handful of Democratic politicians will support it, in these times, but it gives something to hope for.

I have no faith whatsoever in this Calvinball court to seriously touch the matter of qualified immunity. I figure if they don’t just try to find some way to punt on the issue, they’ll issue an opinion on very thin gruel about how there’s a special carve-out that allows this detective to avoid prosecution for her actions. Probably some handwaving about the usual BS that a jury can’t know what goes on in someone’s head and so they can’t know that this detective put a man through hell for months based purely upon a lie.

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A Cranky One  May 22, 2024 • 7:09:12am

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 22, 2024 • 7:10:04am

re: #299 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

This is something that I’ve never understood — if Jesus was meant to die, why was it A Bad Thing(tm) to kill him?

If you are born as a human, your death is guaranteed; “he would die anyway” is not a defense against a charge of murder.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 7:11:32am

re: #411 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

If you are born as a human, your death is guaranteed; “he would die anyway” is not a defense against a charge of murder.

But again, if you had to die in order to fulfill your destiny (and God’s Promise to Humankind) then why would bringing about your death be a bad thing?

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silverdolphin  May 22, 2024 • 7:11:39am

re: #402 Joe Bacon ✅

It’s not that “the media is failing us”.

It’s that the Corporate Controlled Conservative Press is All In for Trump.

Yep, and that is why they are fine with publishing polling results even when they know the polls are contaminated by bad faith responses to questions, as long as it pushes the narratives they want. Not only are polls unreliable due to the actual mechanics (ie landlines, old folks, etc.) but they now include lying responses of those surveyed designed to hurt Biden, rather than reflect the truth.

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Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 7:12:27am

re: #396 Targetpractice

See also the “Wall St v Main St” from the media during the Obama years, when the economic recovery from the Great Recession was constantly talked down because despite the stock market recovering its losses and making gains from 2010 forward and all the economic indicators in the green by 2012, the media spent every other moment whining that none of this was being reflected in paychecks and thus Obama hadn’t really done anything to “fix” the economy.

Sure you kept it from going over the cliff
Then what?

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 22, 2024 • 7:12:57am

Smartmatic Says Newsmax Erased Evidence in Defamation Case

Lawyers for Smartmatic are alleging that Newsmax has destroyed texts and emails showing that its executives knew they were peddling false claims related to the last presidential election, evidence key to a defamation lawsuit the voting tech firm filed against the right-wing cable news channel in 2021. The claims, outlined in court documents obtained by NBC News this week, outline how Newsmax allegedly began shredding after receiving notice to preserve evidence for the case, which is set to go to trial in September. “Newsmax’s misconduct goes beyond falsely accusing Smartmatic of rigging the U.S. election; it also attempted to conceal evidence of its actions and failed to follow its own journalistic standards,” Smartmatic attorney J. Erik Connolly told NBC News. “Smartmatic’s motion details numerous instances of evidence destruction, including incriminating emails and texts from Newsmax executives, indicating intentional spoliation.” Smartmatic is suing Newsmax, claiming the network intentionally promoted what it knew to be lies—namely, that the voting company was involved in flipping millions of votes from Donald Trump to Joe Biden in the 2020 election. A similar Smartmatic suit against Fox News remains ongoing, while one brought against One America News Network was settled last month. A Newsmax spokesperson said in a statement that, “Newsmax categorically denies Smartmatic’s allegations, which are intended only to distract from Smartmatic’s own misconduct, which includes Department of Justice claims it paid Philippine officials $4 million in bribes to be awarded election contracts there.”

nbcnews.com

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Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 7:16:28am

re: #404 silverdolphin

Maybe, but that is also a narrative the media/elites want to push. It may have been true at one time. But now, politics has invaded everything and people will lie on a poll to hurt or help Biden.

I linked to a paper a few days ago that looked at this. When one examined poll numbers, one saw that people who said their income decreased the last 2 years hated Biden, while those who said their income increased liked Biden. Nice correlation.

But, the pollsters actualy had data independent of what the people surveyed said about their income. That data showed what their income really was.

When they graphed the real income effects vs Biden approval, there was no correlation. High income, low income. The approval for Biden was the same. The people who hated Biden were lying on the polls, as were those that liked Biden. There was no way to separate out the political views from anything else if one relied on just what people said. One could predict the answers someone gave based almost entirely on their approval of Biden.

These polls now mostly reflect how people feel about Biden than how they really see today’s economy.

Same with the national horse race polls right now
They are definitely “how I feel” answers
Not who I’m gonna vote for

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 7:16:41am

re: #402 Joe Bacon ✅

It’s not that “the media is failing us”.

It’s that the Corporate Controlled Conservative Press is All In for Trump.

And why should they not be? BIden is a boring old man who nobody is really interested in, whereas DJT is an established media personality, ratings gold, who provides a free 24/7 political/scandal/crime/sex-based reality show.

All they have to do is report on his outrageous morning posts, then cover one of his over-the-top rallies or the gaffes he makes at some speech or international conference, or his golfing technique.

Either way, that sort of stuff draws a lot more viewer/listener/readership - and that means more revenues.

And that is what they are in business for.

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silverdolphin  May 22, 2024 • 7:16:58am

re: #406 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

That’s assuming a lot. Despite what the media said, the protests weren’t all that big, judging by arrests (where they happened) about half the protesters were not affiliated with the colleges, and they didn’t draw huge crowds of nonparticipants. (Demonstrations at Cal drew numbers in the very low hundreds, on a campus with 30,000 faculty, staff and students). The really “large” ones (see previous) took place in New York and California, which aren’t going to flip red because of this. I think there’s really a question about how many supporters they had and have, no matter how much noise they make (and how much time the media spends on shiny noisy objects.

Which doesn’t change the fact that it would be nice to find some sort of resolution to the issues, but I see two serious obstacles to that: the Israeli government and the Palestinian leadership. (I’ve been watching this since the six day war in 1967, after all.)

Remember, one of Biden’s great skills as a lifelong politician is to know where the people are. He has shown the ability to parse just where the median is. He has been moving that point more and more towards those supporting Palestine. But the party as a whole is widely separated.

I will not be surprised that he eventually overcomes the two obstacles you rightly point out. I do not know how but then he is a much smarer politician than I am. That is why I speculated that he is using the leverage of the Saudis on the Palestinian leadership as I tries to leverage Bibi.

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silverdolphin  May 22, 2024 • 7:18:13am

re: #416 Dangerman

Same with the national horse race polls right now
They are definitely “how I feel” answers
Not who I’m gonna vote for

The pollsters all know this. But none will do anything more than just keep asking the same questions and getting paid for the answers that their paymasters want.

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silverdolphin  May 22, 2024 • 7:20:25am

re: #417 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And why should they not be? BIden is a boring old man who nobody is really interested in, whereas DJT is an established media personality, ratings gold, who provides a free 24/7 political/scandal/crime/sex-based reality show.

All they have to do is report on his outrageous morning posts, then cover one of his over-the-top rallies or the gaffes he makes at some speech or international conference, or his golfing technique.

Either way, that sort of stuff draws a lot more viewer/listener/readership - and that means more revenues.

And that is what they are in business for.

I find myself supporting those media outlets that are not in this same sort of business. Ones like the Texas Tribune. There are others.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 22, 2024 • 7:22:28am

re: #333 Dangerman

tfg said this yesterday:

it was in response to the contraception question

and it’s gibberish
and generic
and meaningless
the same stock response he has to everything
he is never specific
always ‘it’s coming’

i think he’ll be unmasked in the first debate

Won’t matter. He could fall on his back and spout gibberish for thirty minutes and the media will still bend over backwards praising his performance, cutting down Biden’s and at least one channel will declare Trump “the winner” simply for showing up.

As many have said, “it’s a cult”. Logic and common sense do not apply. And the media and corporate world are complicit at this stage since they somehow see this farce as being potentially beneficial to themselves.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 22, 2024 • 7:22:47am

re: #412 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But again, if you had to die in order to fulfill your destiny (and God’s Promise to Humankind) then why would bringing about your death be a bad thing?

Asked and answered.

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silverdolphin  May 22, 2024 • 7:24:00am

Crap. I was just going to check in here and then go onto other things. Now it is an hour later, I’ve posted a gazillion replies and I am already behind my chores for the day. Sometimes LGF is just such a Great Attractor it messes up my day ;-)

And I would not trade that for anything. BFN

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 22, 2024 • 7:24:45am

re: #335 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He wants to “send it back to the states” but allow Federal judges to rule that state laws can somehow apply to other states

In other words make it a totally arbitrary mess which, interestingly, is what the GQP and their corporate overlords and religious wack jobs want since inconsistent enforcement intended to punish others while the cronies escape any penalty is the goal.

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Decatur Deb  May 22, 2024 • 7:25:15am

re: #423 silverdolphin

Great Distractor.

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A Cranky One  May 22, 2024 • 7:26:56am

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Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 7:27:57am

re: #417 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And why should they not be? BIden is a boring old man who nobody is really interested in, whereas DJT is an established media personality, ratings gold, who provides a free 24/7 political/scandal/crime/sex-based reality show.

All they have to do is report on his outrageous morning posts, then cover one of his over-the-top rallies or the gaffes he makes at some speech or international conference, or his golfing technique.

Either way, that sort of stuff draws a lot more viewer/listener/readership - and that means more revenues.

And that is what they are in business for.

We just finished “The Newsroom” last night

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 22, 2024 • 7:28:07am

Happy Wednesday!

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Markm1960  May 22, 2024 • 7:29:22am

re: #374 PhillyPretzel ✅

From NBC: RNC HQ under lockdown after being sent vials of blood.

Stephen Miller order Uber eats and they lock the place down? Ridiculous.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 22, 2024 • 7:32:48am

re: #428 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

That is a beautiful tree.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 22, 2024 • 7:33:03am

re: #375 Teukka

I believe we will have a major difficult-to-attribute sabotage or terrorism in the near future here in Europe.

You mean other than a few underwater gas pipelines being mysteriously disabled?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 7:33:51am

re: #427 Dangerman

We just finished “The Newsroom” last night

Many of us labor under the illusion that we viewers are the “customers” while the programming is the “product”.

That is not the case; the product is the advertising time that they sell, and the programming is only window dressing to attract viewers so as to increase the amount they can charge for that time.

Trump draws more eyeballs than Biden, they want him back full-time so they have a full day’s programming with a minimum of effort because DJT is such an extraordinary showman and media presence.

We really need to start teaching media studies in schools.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 7:34:38am

re: #431 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

You mean other than a few underwater gas pipelines being mysteriously disabled?

The idea will be to sour the populace on their nations’ commitment to support Ukraine

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Teukka  May 22, 2024 • 7:34:57am

re: #431 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

You mean other than a few underwater gas pipelines being mysteriously disabled?

Mhmmm.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 7:36:08am

re: #431 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

You mean other than a few underwater gas pipelines being mysteriously disabled?

A shopping mall burned down in Poland last week; The fire is being regarded as suspicious. Hell, even Polish PM Donald Tusk said that Poland’s intel services are looking into a possible sabotage angle - not to mention that Poland arrested eight people suspected of conducting espionage operations on behalf of the Kremlin.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 22, 2024 • 7:38:24am

re: #426 A Cranky One

“That’s not Melania.”

😂😂😂

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retired cynic  May 22, 2024 • 7:39:22am

re: #436 GlutenFreeJesus

She’s smiling.

(or is it a grimace?)

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darthstar  May 22, 2024 • 7:40:21am

re: #437 retired cynic

She’s smiling.

(or is it a grimace?)

I’m guessing that was the moment Barron got his diploma. She’s scowling in all of the other images.

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dat_said  May 22, 2024 • 7:42:35am

USA Today: All nine South Dakota tribes have officially endorsed the banishment of Gov. Kristi Noem from their lands.

Flandreau Santee Sioux Tribe is the last of the state’s Dakota, Lakota, and Nakota tribal governments to endorse Noem’s banishment and the eighth to make it official.

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BeenHereAwhile  May 22, 2024 • 7:43:12am

re: #259 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You are required to follow state law in the military. That’s why wingnuts are incensed about the military offering medical leave for women to leave a fascist state to obtain reproductive medical care.

Likewise, things are legal in state law which are illegal in the military (notably, adultery).

Wait & see for a state-authorized-concealed-carry guy to carry on base.

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retired cynic  May 22, 2024 • 7:48:18am

Another Substack, sorry!

May 22, 2024
Heather Cox Richardson
heathercoxrichardson.substack.com

On the history of lying profusely to succeed in politics, starting with Sidney Powell and working backwards.

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gocart mozart  May 22, 2024 • 7:55:31am
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darthstar  May 22, 2024 • 7:56:43am

I guess they didn’t get the positive feedback they expected.

Mastodon

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 22, 2024 • 7:58:56am

re: #443 darthstar

I hope someone saved a screen shot.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 8:01:54am

re: #440 BeenHereAwhile

Wait & see for a state-authorized-concealed-carry guy to carry on base.

Especiaolly if that soldier is not allowed to carry sidearms (The Military has a policy of not allowing servicepeople with a history of domestic abuse to wear or carry sidearms in their quarters)

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 22, 2024 • 8:04:11am

re: #429 Markm1960

Stephen Miller order Uber eats and they lock the place down? Ridiculous.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 8:05:34am

Rumors are swirling that British PM Rishi Sunak is gonna call an election for July. He’s called the Cabinet to an “urgent meeting” starting in about 10 minutes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 8:08:00am

re: #447 Dr Lizardo

Rumors are swirling that British PM Rishi Sunak is gonna call an election for July. He’s called the Cabinet to an “urgent meeting” starting in about 10 minutes.

At least he lasted a year and a half in office.

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Nerdy Fish  May 22, 2024 • 8:08:09am

re: #447 Dr Lizardo

Rumors are swirling that British PM Rishi Sunak is gonna call an election for July. He’s called the Cabinet to an “urgent meeting” starting in about 10 minutes.

The Tories just got absolutely bushwhacked in the recent by-elections. I suppose this is Rishi falling on the sword all the way to the hilt.

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 8:08:23am

re: #447 Dr Lizardo

Rumors are swirling that British PM Rishi Sunak is gonna call an election for July. He’s called the Cabinet to an “urgent meeting” starting in about 10 minutes.

Speculation I heard this morning was that he really wants to drag things out until January, but the party’s putting pressure on him to call early in the (ridiculous) hope that it might save a few more MPs their seats.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 8:10:40am

re: #450 Targetpractice

Speculation I heard this morning was that he really wants to drag things out until January, but the party’s putting pressure on him to call early in the (ridiculous) hope that it might save a few more MPs their seats.

Probably to prevent the Reform Party from making any gains in the medium term. If he pushes it out until later this year, or early next year, there’s a possibility that Reform could capitalize on that.

I doubt this is the masterstroke the Tories think it is.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 8:10:42am

re: #450 Targetpractice

Speculation I heard this morning was that he really wants to drag things out until January, but the party’s putting pressure on him to call early in the (ridiculous) hope that it might save a few more MPs their seats.

no point in counting on people’s short memories if things are only getting progressively worse.

they no longer have Covid to blame for the disastrous state of the economy which is impacting millions, mostly the poorest Britons.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 8:13:06am

re: #449 Nerdy Fish

The Tories just got absolutely bushwhacked in the recent by-elections. I suppose this is Rishi falling on the sword all the way to the hilt.

- There is an “all hands” cabinet meeting being held at around 4:15 pm GMT. Ministers are being recalled from trips, and have been told they must attend.

- Jeremy Hunt is no longer appearing on Peston this evening.

- Number 10 has stopped taking calls.

It could well be that an election will be announced later today, to take place in the first or second week of July.

If that is indeed the case, then Sunak will be off to the Palace at around 6 pm to tell the King.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 22, 2024 • 8:15:11am

re: #453 Dr Lizardo

We will find out shortly what is going on.

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 8:15:19am

re: #451 Dr Lizardo

Probably to prevent the Reform Party from making any gains in the medium term. If he pushes it out until later this year, or early next year, there’s a possibility that Reform could capitalize on that.

I doubt this is the masterstroke the Tories think it is.

That’s certainly a possibility, as a poll came out the other day that shows that Reform has lost 4% in the polling since the local elections, but the Tories only saw their own polling position rise 1%. That would seem to indicate that, contrary to party assumptions, Reform voters are not simply disaffected Conservative voters and if they just find the right combination of cruel and useless policies, then those voters will “come home” and buoy the party’s hopes in the winter.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 8:17:25am

From The Guardian:

Rishi Sunak will this afternoon call a surprise early election for July, senior sources have told the Guardian, a contest that will see Keir Starmer try to take power for Labour after 14 years of Conservative-led government.

The prime minister is set to announce the election will be in the early summer, with speculation that it will be held on 4 July, after claiming inflation was back under control and the economy was improving.

Labour is about 20 points ahead in the polls and Starmer is widely expected to become the next prime minister after transforming his party since its historic election defeat almost five years ago.

Sunak will make the announcement after a day of febrile speculation in Westminster, triggered by rare good economic news for the government and an unusually timed Cabinet meeting, with senior ministers changing their plans to attend.

The prime minister, who has long said his “working assumption” was that the election would be held in the second half of the year, was previously thought likely to wait until the autumn and a further tax-cutting budget before holding a contest when so far behind.

However, government insiders suggested that Sunak had been persuaded that with the economic backdrop unlikely to improve significantly before the autumn, and questions over the delivery of his Rwanda deportation scheme, he would be better off going now.

Ahead of the announcement, a spokesperson for Starmer said: “We are fully ready to go whenever the prime minister calls an election. We have a fully organised and operational campaign ready to go. And we think the country is crying out for a general election so I would urge the prime minister to get on with it.”

theguardian.com

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Charmingly Persistent  May 22, 2024 • 8:17:31am

re: #273 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Pew Research notes 40% of Democrats twenty-nine and under are atheists (not “no preference” or “agnostic”) and 36% thirty to forty-nine are atheists.

This doesn’t match the plots on the blog you cite later, at least not for median age (it isn’t broken out that specifically). Do you have a cite? I’d buy it for “nones” but doubt it for atheists. I Googled a bit but couldn’t find that particular statistic.

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Nerdy Fish  May 22, 2024 • 8:18:19am

re: #456 Dr Lizardo

From The Guardian:

theguardian.com

So it’s off to Buckingham with ol’ Rishi tonight, then.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 8:19:02am

From X:

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 8:19:26am

re: #458 Nerdy Fish

So it’s off to Buckingham with ol’ Rishi tonight, then.

Most likely.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 8:20:49am

From X:

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 8:21:48am

re: #456 Dr Lizardo

From The Guardian:

theguardian.com

The “good” economic news? Inflation’s fallen again, and after years of insisting that everything from COVID to the Russia-Ukraine War was to blame for high inflation, the Tories are now claiming credit for it falling and declaring that if Labour win then the economy will crash.

Yes, they really are that desperate.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 8:22:35am

re: #462 Targetpractice

The “good” economic news? Inflation’s fallen again, and after years of insisting that everything from COVID to the Russia-Ukraine War was to blame for high inflation, the Tories are now claiming credit for it falling and declaring that if Labour win then the economy will crash.

Yes, they really are that desperate.

No kidding, they really are that desperate.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 8:23:39am

Sky News in Britain is calling it. General Election for 4 July 2024.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 8:24:15am

re: #464 Dr Lizardo

Sky News in Britain is calling it. General Election for 4 July 2024.

Watch Downing Street live: PM refuses to rule out summer election ahead of cabinet meeting

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Teukka  May 22, 2024 • 8:24:31am

re: #464 Dr Lizardo

Sky News in Britain is calling it. General Election for 4 July 2024.

Am I reading too much into things when I note it’s the birthday one of the colonies? 🤔

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 22, 2024 • 8:26:14am

I’ve often wondered if the fixed election schedule in the United States is a good thing or a bad thing.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 22, 2024 • 8:26:28am

re: #466 Teukka

Hmm. That is difficult to say. It could be they are making their own statement by using the USA birthdate.

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 8:26:57am

After months of insisting that the public don’t want elections and that he’s got too much still left on his plate to call them, I’m curious what his excuse is going to be for calling them on a Wednesday afternoon when there’s virtually nothing in the press to crow about besides inflation being a little lower than last quarter.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 8:27:08am

re: #462 Targetpractice

The “good” economic news? Inflation’s fallen again, and after years of insisting that everything from COVID to the Russia-Ukraine War was to blame for high inflation, the Tories are now claiming credit for it falling and declaring that if Labour win then the economy will crash.

Not unlike DJT climing credit for recent Stock Market peaks because “my poll numbers are so strong”.

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Sherlock Hound  May 22, 2024 • 8:27:18am

re: #460 Dr Lizardo

Most likely.

Waiting for Number 10 Cat to give his remarks.

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 8:27:45am

re: #471 Sherlock Hound

Waiting for Number 10 Cat to give his remarks.

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Hey, leave Larry alone, he’s the only government employee doing his job.

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Eventual Carrion  May 22, 2024 • 8:29:46am

re: #224 William Lewis

I’ll take Superstar but that’s a wonderful song too. Still think she should have been allowed to do her vocals from the drum kit though.

That is my fav also. She had such a beautiful voice.

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Sherlock Hound  May 22, 2024 • 8:30:47am

re: #472 Targetpractice

Hey, leave Larry alone, he’s the only government employee doing his job.

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He’ll probably show up with a mouse he’s caught, and run off in the grass to munch it. Happened for real at his last presser!

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Mattand  May 22, 2024 • 8:33:46am

I’m in the middle of something and can’t hit Wikipedia. Why is the Tory PM calling for an election when they’re in power? Is it because Labour is coming on strong the the PM is trying to avoid a no confidence vote, which I think triggers a new election?

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 8:34:54am
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retired cynic  May 22, 2024 • 8:35:59am

The Milky Way Photographer of the Year Contest Celebrates the Dazzling Band of Light in Our Skies
thisiscolossal.com

Love

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 8:36:40am

re: #475 Mattand

I’m in the middle of something and can’t hit Wikipedia. Why is the Tory PM calling for an election when they’re in power? Is it because Labour is coming on strong the the PM is trying to avoid a no confidence vote, which I think triggers a new election?

Pretty much - and there was a slight decrease in inflation, so Sunak calculates that it’s now or never.

But the Tories are 20 points behind Labour. One Tory MP anonymously remarked, “This is utter madness.”

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Nerdy Fish  May 22, 2024 • 8:37:14am

re: #475 Mattand

I’m in the middle of something and can’t hit Wikipedia. Why is the Tory PM calling for an election when they’re in power? Is it because Labour is coming on strong the the PM is trying to avoid a no confidence vote, which I think triggers a new election?

The answer is, “It’s complicated.” The law demands new elections in January, regardless of the power situation. The Tories have, up to this point, been hoping to hold out until then, and try to salvage the situation between now and then. However, reading the tea leaves, the Tory political forecasters believe the current economic and political climate is their best shot at not completely disappearing into irrelevancy. In other words, it’s only down from here as far as they can tell, so they might as well eat the shit sandwich that’s in front of them and hope it doesn’t kill them.

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Nojay UK  May 22, 2024 • 8:39:23am

re: #468 PhillyPretzel ✅

Hmm. That is difficult to say. It could be they are making their own statement by using the USA birthdate.

It’s not about you, America. Sigh.

From the dissolution of the current Parliament and the issuing of the writ a British General Election campaign normally takes six weeks. The election day is always a Thursday although that’s not engraved in stone like some other countries I could mention. Finish up all essential business tomorrow (the finance bill, mostly), issue the writ, fire all the MPs and add six weeks and hey presto, it’s the 4th of July. Simples.

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Jay C  May 22, 2024 • 8:39:53am

re: #475 Mattand

I’m in the middle of something and can’t hit Wikipedia. Why is the Tory PM calling for an election when they’re in power? Is it because Labour is coming on strong the the PM is trying to avoid a no confidence vote, which I think triggers a new election?

Good question: the next General Election doesn’t HAVE to be held til (? - Dec? Jan?); CW was that the Tories would spin things out as long as possible just to hold on to power for the maximum time (And postpone the widely-predicted electoral bloodbath likewise). Maybe there’s some fecal matter predicted to impact the airflow impeller in the upcoming months, and the Cons don’t want to be in charge when it happens?

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gocart mozart  May 22, 2024 • 8:40:06am
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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 8:41:40am

re: #479 Nerdy Fish

The answer is, “It’s complicated.” The law demands new elections in January, regardless of the power situation. The Tories have, up to this point, been hoping to hold out until then, and try to salvage the situation between now and then. However, reading the tea leaves, the Tory political forecasters believe the current economic and political climate is their best shot at not completely disappearing into irrelevancy. In other words, it’s only down from here as far as they can tell, so they might as well eat the shit sandwich that’s in front of them and hope it doesn’t kill them.

Pretty much. Most speculation at the start of the year was that Sunak would call for elections no later than early April to take place on May 2nd with the local elections, which is what normally takes place. That didn’t happen and the general belief is because the party was desperately hoping that they’d get a bump in the polls when the budget was released, then got cold feet when that didn’t happen and decided to just pushing things out in the hope of a miracle taking place. Except all the indicators now are that things are only going to further degrade through the summer, and that holding elections in the middle of winter when most of the country will be deciding between bills and heating is utter madness. So they’ll instead pull the trigger on elections now and hope that they can save enough seats to (at the very least) remain the opposition party rather than falling third behind the Liberal Dems.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 8:42:03am

I hope that when PM Sunak comes out to speak later this evening, some wiseacre cranks this up in the background….

-Yakety Sax- Music

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 8:43:28am

Another German Populist Politician touches a third rail

German far-right AfD in disarray after Nazi remark

“A top far-right German politician says he will pull back from campaigning for the upcoming EU elections - although he will remain his party’s lead candidate.

The latest controversy comes after the Alternative for Germany (AfD)’s Maximilian Krah told journalists that SS members weren’t automatically “criminals”.

“It depends. You have to assess blame individually. At the end of the war there were almost a million SS. Günter Grass was also in the Waffen SS,” he told La Repubblica and the Financial Times, referring to the German novelist who wrote The Tin Drum.
…
The SS, or Schutzstaffel, were a Nazi paramilitary group active in the 1930s and 1940s. Among other crimes against humanity, SS members played a leading role in the Holocaust, the genocide of six million Jews and others during World War Two.”

The article fails to differentiate between the Einsatz SS, the true war criminals, the occupation forces and prison camp guards, and the Waffen SS, the elite SS fighting units, into which Nobel Prize laureate Günther Grass was drafted as a teenager at the war’s end. They mostly served on the front and did not participate in running camps or administering occupied territories.

An important note here is that when Germany rearmed itself in 1956, they adopted a ruling that no former officers from an SS units could serve as officers, creating the myth that the regular army, the Wehrmacht was “clean” while the SS was responsible for any atrocities.

This is also not necessarily the case.Both regular army and Waffen SS did participate in atrocities. But again, this is too nuanced and tetchy a subject for politics to discuss in any reasonable and constructive manner.

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Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 8:44:47am

re: #480 Nojay UK

It’s not about you, America. Sigh.

From the dissolution of the current Parliament and the issuing of the writ a British General Election campaign normally takes six weeks. The election day is always a Thursday although that’s not engraved in stone like some other countries I could mention. Finish up all essential business tomorrow (the finance bill, mostly), issue the writ, fire all the MPs and add six weeks and hey presto, it’s the 4th of July. Simples.

ego-centric america tossed out occam’s razor long ago

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Mattand  May 22, 2024 • 8:44:59am

re: #478 Dr Lizardo

re: #479 Nerdy Fish

re: #481 Jay C

Thanks all.

Can you imagine this country with a “No confidence” vote as part of our election process? That’s basically what the GOP-majority House has now and they’re at each other’s throats.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 22, 2024 • 8:45:13am

I’d been trying Ground News for a few days, after hearing ads on Some More News.

I’m not impressed. When a lack of coverage on the left is indicated, the story is usually nonsense meant to upset racists that would obviously not sell to people looking for actual news.

Today, the site is entirely down with an internal server error.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 8:46:16am

Sunak to announce the election in 15 minutes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 22, 2024 • 8:46:26am

re: #482 gocart mozart

Is it sad one of my first thoughts was “I bet they sent it to themselves just so they could play victim.”?

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Mattand  May 22, 2024 • 8:47:10am

re: #480 Nojay UK

It’s not about you, America. Sigh.

*shouts in American*
WHAT??? HOW DARE YOU????

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 8:48:36am

re: #487 Mattand

Thanks all.

Can you imagine this country with a “No confidence” vote as part of our election process? That’s basically what the GOP-majority House has now and they’re at each other’s throats.

They have that to an extent, at least as far as the Speaker of the House is concerned…

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 8:48:40am

re: #489 Dr Lizardo

Sunak to announce the election in 15 minutes.

Starmer to follow shortly after to announce he’s begun measuring No. 10 for new drapes.

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A Cranky One  May 22, 2024 • 8:50:08am

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 22, 2024 • 8:50:10am

re: #489 Dr Lizardo

CNN just announced it.

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wrenchwench  May 22, 2024 • 8:50:55am

The candidate I canvassed for has a lead in the ongoing count, 50 point something to 48 point something.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 22, 2024 • 8:51:49am

re: #244 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Mattand  May 22, 2024 • 8:52:36am

re: #492 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They have that to an extent, at least as far as the Speaker of the House is concerned…

Yeah, right after I wrote that, I thought “Well, duh, of course they do. They’ve always had it.” The big difference being now that you need only one freak to torch the building, whereas previously you needed a handful, which in theory would be harder to pull off.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 22, 2024 • 8:56:46am

re: #246 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He will wear his conviction as a badge of honor

They won’t care if he’s a convicted traitor; they won’t care if he announced that he supported Putin in his war against Ukraine.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 8:58:08am

Huh. Turns out this will be the first summer election in the UK since July of 1945. And…the Tories lost that one.

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 8:58:31am

First Sunak announces elections, then Starmer says Labour is ready, and finally the head of lettuce congratulates Sunak for lasting longer than it.

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A Cranky One  May 22, 2024 • 9:00:00am

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 22, 2024 • 9:04:36am

re: #502 A Cranky One

As someone who currently has difficulty holding said pen the way that Taylor does it is actually a far better way of holding it. :)

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 9:09:53am
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jeffreyw  May 22, 2024 • 9:10:54am

Ancient Chesapeake site challenges timeline of humans in the Americas
WaPo gift link

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Nojay UK  May 22, 2024 • 9:11:44am

The riggers just dragged the podium into camera shot in front of the door of Number 10. Larry the Cat is nowhere to be seen. It is raining.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 9:12:53am
The lectern has arrived. And it does not have a prime ministerial crest, which means he [Sunak] is announcing party business, not government business. Confirmation that he is calling an election (if you don’t trust all the media organisations already telling you, as fact, he will be announcing he’s going to the polls).

theguardian.com

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 9:14:09am

British PM Sunak live.

Watch Downing Street live: PM refuses to rule out summer election ahead of cabinet meeting

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retired cynic  May 22, 2024 • 9:14:47am

I am rather focused on typefaces, and this story just really grabbed me. The fact that Robert Green made a short BBC video clip about his obsession with the type just made it greater for me.

… off to price what Dove typeface goes for today

A Remarkable Typeface Resurfaces from the Thames After Being Dumped in the River More Than a Century Ago
thisiscolossal.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 9:16:54am

re: #498 Mattand

Yeah, right after I wrote that, I thought “Well, duh, of course they do. They’ve always had it.” The big difference being now that you need only one freak to torch the building, whereas previously you needed a handful, which in theory would be harder to pull off.

That was an agreement that McCarthy made with his Freedom Caucus to get them on board.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 9:17:55am

King Charles III has granted the dissolution of Parliament.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 9:18:03am

re: #499 Hecuba’s daughter

They won’t care if he’s a convicted traitor; they won’t care if he announced that he supported Putin in his war against Ukraine.

They have already been told that it is a partisan witch hunt from a weaponized DOJ, that was one of the reasons that MTG tried to oust Speaker Johnson - because he voted to fund the DOJ.

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Nerdy Fish  May 22, 2024 • 9:18:57am

re: #511 Dr Lizardo

King Charles III has granted the dissolution of Parliament.

Yeah, I had a British friend confirming to me the unfolding clown fiesta.

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Romantic Heretic  May 22, 2024 • 9:21:10am

re: #396 Targetpractice

Spoke about this problem in a page years ago: Information Disease.

The media, in its quest for profit, bears a lot of responsibility for this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 9:21:19am

At least Chuckwaller³ finally gets to do some official serious Kingly business.

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Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 9:21:34am
“The judge hates Donald Trump. Just take a look. Take a look at him. Take a look at where he comes from. He can’t stand Donald Trump. He’s doing everything in his power.”

— Donald Trump, outside the courthouse yesterday, referring to Judge Juan Merchan who moved to Queens from Bogota, Colombia when he was six years old.


Aileen Mercedes Cannon was born in 1981 in Cali, Colombia

huh

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 9:21:49am

re: #513 Nerdy Fish

Yeah, I had a British friend confirming to me the unfolding clown fiesta.

Watching Sunak’s presser, and his theme seems to be, “Things are great! WHY ARE YOU PEASANTS SUCH INGRATES?!”

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Nerdy Fish  May 22, 2024 • 9:22:25am

re: #517 Dr Lizardo

Watching Sunak’s presser, and his theme seems to be, “Things are great! WHY ARE YOU PEASANTS SUCH INGRATES?!”

That has a very Tory vibe to it, so it checks out.

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prairiefire  May 22, 2024 • 9:23:13am

re: #517 Dr Lizardo

The UK needs to clean up its waterways. Get your shit together, UK!

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 9:24:06am

re: #519 prairiefire

The UK needs to clean up its waterways. Get your shit together, UK!

Yeah…get the shit out of the water, for one thing!

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 9:24:19am

re: #518 Nerdy Fish

That has a very Tory vibe to it, so it checks out.

100% on point.

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 9:24:30am

re: #504 Dr Lizardo

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The only reason he hadn’t been kicked out on a confidence vote before today is because the party has no clear alternative. Everybody that’s been proposed is even less popular than he is.

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Nerdy Fish  May 22, 2024 • 9:25:40am

re: #522 Targetpractice

So he’s Bibi, but he didn’t send the Royal Army to kill a bunch of people to try to save his own ass.

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Nojay UK  May 22, 2024 • 9:25:55am

The rain has returned and Sunak looks like he is being pissed on from a great height. Nice to know he is going through what the rest of us have been experiencing under a Tory government for the past fourteen years.

ObUS: President Harrison.

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Eventual Carrion  May 22, 2024 • 9:26:53am

re: #266 silverdolphin

Yep,. The MAGAts are fine with reducing US military readiness. I expect that when push comes to shove, they envision bringing back the draft (for men only) to fill up the spots left empty because women refuse to enlist. Hell, they likely do not want women to be in the military at all.

Funny, so does Russia.

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Romantic Heretic  May 22, 2024 • 9:26:59am

re: #416 Dangerman

Same with the national horse race polls right now
They are definitely “how I feel” answers
Not who I’m gonna vote for

Which is why so much of our politics is kayfabe. It’s about emotions, not thought.

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Nojay UK  May 22, 2024 • 9:29:11am

re: #519 prairiefire

The UK needs to clean up its waterways. Get your shit together, UK!

Scotland already has done so, but then again Scotland retained control of the national water business while Englandshire had a privatisation party a while back with shareholder value and Mahogany Row bonuses elevated above consumer care and meeting the legal requirements of operating waste water facilities.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 9:30:03am

re: #527 Romantic Heretic

Which is why so much of our politics is kayfabe. It’s about emotions, not thought.

Broadcast media are about influencing our emotions, not about rational thinking.

Which is why I rarely rely on them as a source of information, I would rather take the time to read an article, I generally only follow broadcast news when it is covering some dramatic breaking event.

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Nojay UK  May 22, 2024 • 9:30:31am

Larry the Cat has made an appearance, waiting to be let in to Number Ten now the waffling has stopped.

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jaunte  May 22, 2024 • 9:30:36am

Tax cuts not likely to assuage concerns over “deportation scheme.”

“…Sunak made his announcement in heavy rain outside No 10 Downing Street, as the New Labour anthem, D:ream’s Things Can Only Get Better, was blasted out on the street outside.

It followed a day of febrile speculation in Westminster, triggered by rare good economic news for the government and an unusually timed cabinet meeting, with senior ministers changing their plans to attend.

The prime minister, who has long said his “working assumption” was that the election would be held in the second half of the year, was previously thought likely to wait until the autumn and a further tax-cutting budget before holding a contest when so far behind.

However, government insiders suggested Sunak had been convinced that with the economic backdrop unlikely to improve significantly before the autumn, and questions over the delivery of his Rwanda deportation scheme, he would be better off going now.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/22/rishi-sunak-will-call-general-election-for-july-in-surprise-move-sources

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Hecuba's daughter  May 22, 2024 • 9:31:55am

re: #333 Dangerman

tfg said this yesterday:

it was in response to the contraception question

and it’s gibberish
and generic
and meaningless
the same stock response he has to everything
he is never specific
always ‘it’s coming’

i think he’ll be unmasked in the first debate

Like infrastructure week — always pending but never arriving. In any case, he won’t debate unless he’s questioned by a friendly moderator before a friendly crowd.

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Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 9:32:06am

got tadpoles in the new hydroponic trough

i’ll be putting a finer screen over the pump

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 9:32:53am

It’s safe to say that Sunak did not call elections to save his government, he called them because current polling shows if he keeps stalling, they’re not even going to be the second largest party in the next parliament.

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Nerdy Fish  May 22, 2024 • 9:33:24am

re: #534 Targetpractice

It’s safe to say that Sunak did not call elections to save his government, he called them because current polling shows if he keeps stalling, they’re not even going to be the second largest party in the next parliament.

That’s what I’ve been gathering from you and everyone else.

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wrenchwench  May 22, 2024 • 9:33:39am

re: #533 Dangerman

got tadpoles in the new hydroponic trough

i’ll be putting a finer screen over the pump

Welcome, hatchlings.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 22, 2024 • 9:34:00am

re: #335 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He wants to “send it back to the states” but allow Federal judges to rule that state laws can somehow apply to other states

Unlike his most fervent supporters, Trump doesn’t care about this issue; in any case, consistency is not a word in his vocabulary.

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Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2024 • 9:34:05am

re: #531 jaunte

Sunak just rushed this through to stop the no confidence letters going in to the 1922 Committee in possibly the most pathetic move in his entire time as PM - and that’s quite a (perverse) achievement.

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 9:35:17am

re: #532 Hecuba’s daughter

Like infrastructure week — always pending but never arriving. In any case, he won’t debate unless he’s questioned by a friendly moderator before a friendly crowd.

Hence why I don’t expect we’ll get any closer than a week before the June 25th debate before he suddenly announces that (for one reason or another) that he’d backing out of the “rigged” debates Biden set down and will only agree to debates that either he or the CPD schedules.

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prairiefire  May 22, 2024 • 9:36:21am

re: #528 Nojay UK

For a socialist leaning people, they were sold a bill of goods about privatization. Now they can’t brag about the trains. Any snootiness about ecological advances will be met with “how much salmonella is in your back yard?”

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Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 9:37:06am

re: #532 Hecuba’s daughter

Like infrastructure week — always pending but never arriving. In any case, he won’t debate unless he’s questioned by a friendly moderator before a friendly crowd.

*i* think he got boxed in with the first debate
biden played him like a fiddle, professional politician that he is.
patience and eye on the ball, and just…wait.

trump’s team already agreed to the basic terms (no audience, mic kill switch and the hosts). so it’ll be hard to bow out. (not impossible, but hard)

he can blame his treatment in the first debate to get out of the second one (where ‘treatment’ means i did crappy because i dont know anything and couldnt answer the questions)

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Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 9:38:55am

re: #536 wrenchwench

Welcome, hatchlings.

this time of year we usually get 500, probably more, in the pond.

once they get legs and start to crawl out, sometimes the whole deck kind of moves around…

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lawhawk  May 22, 2024 • 9:39:17am

re: #541 Dangerman

Assumes that he could even attend those debates, as he could well be a convicted felon and incarcerated by that point. /I know, wishful thinking….

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 9:41:57am

re: #541 Dangerman

*i* think he got boxed in with the first debate
biden played him like a fiddle, professional politician that he is.
patience and eye on the ball, and just…wait.

trump’s team already agreed to the basic terms (no audience, mic kill switch and the hosts). so it’ll be hard to bow out. (not impossible, but hard)

he can blame his treatment in the first debate to get out of the second one (where ‘treatment’ means i did crappy because i dont know anything and couldnt answer the questions)

With who? His cult was being told within an hour of his agreeing to the debates that they were “rigged” and there would be no shame in bowing out. And within 24 hours, the Beltway media was in agreement that Biden was a monster for cutting out the CPD from planning and RFK Jr from participating in the debates. And everybody else seemed to be in agreement that it a “when, not if” question with regards to Trump backing out once he came up with an excuse that sounded right in his head.

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Nojay UK  May 22, 2024 • 9:44:06am

re: #540 prairiefire

For a socialist leaning people, they were sold a bill of goods about privatization.

Don’t know where you get the idea that Britain and particularly England is socialist-leaning. England has a majority of right-wing xenophobic voters. The one factor that guarantees the fall of a Tory government is mortgage rates and they’ve been higher than usual for the past few years so out they go. Disaffected Tories will vote Lib Dem for this election then come home to their true faith in the next election.

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prairiefire  May 22, 2024 • 9:46:33am

re: #545 Nojay UK

I think the NHS gave me that idea.

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 9:47:23am

Look, I get the importance of symbolism, but Sunak announcing an election while getting drenched as protestors drown him out with Things Can Only Better is the writers of United Kingdom laying it on a bit thick.

— Nick Barlow (@nickbwalking.bsky.social) 2024-05-22T16:19:49.864Z

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jeffreyw  May 22, 2024 • 9:47:51am

Baby Bear: papa why do you & mama sleep in separate beds
Papa Bear: it’s complicated
Mama Bear: why don’t you ask papa’s little blonde hussy

— Frovo (@frovo.bsky.social) 2024-05-22T15:14:45.042Z

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Targetpractice  May 22, 2024 • 9:50:57am

“Seized the opportunities of Brexit to make this the best place to grow a country.”

*lightning bolt reduces Sunak to ashes*

— Mark Chadbourn (@chadbourn.bsky.social) 2024-05-22T16:20:02.851Z

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 22, 2024 • 9:51:54am

re: #480 Nojay UK

It’s not about you, America. Sigh.

From the dissolution of the current Parliament and the issuing of the writ a British General Election campaign normally takes six weeks. The election day is always a Thursday although that’s not engraved in stone like some other countries I could mention. Finish up all essential business tomorrow (the finance bill, mostly), issue the writ, fire all the MPs and add six weeks and hey presto, it’s the 4th of July. Simples.

The British Empire ruled at it’s peak a quarter of the planet and its population. Just about any day picked for an election would be someone else’s independence day.

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Eventual Carrion  May 22, 2024 • 9:54:38am

re: #300 DodgerFan1988

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wrenchwench  May 22, 2024 • 9:56:07am

550 and no complaints yet. I think it works, Charles.

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Nojay UK  May 22, 2024 • 9:57:24am

re: #546 prairiefire

I think the NHS gave me that idea.

The Conservative Party has to face the fact that even with their supporters being rabid xenophobic bigots and Hate The Poors types they still take the NHS for granted as somehow Just There when they need it.

Every now and then some Tory think-tank ballends float the idea of selling off or privatising parts of the NHS to improve it somehow but once the survey polls come in they’re locked back in their little boxes again and the Tory Cabinet ministers pretend they never said that. Of course we got the “Personal and Public Involvement” scheme from Tory-lite Blair which gutted the NHS capital spending programs for a decade while enriching a lot of hedge-fund speculators and financial consultants.

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Eventual Carrion  May 22, 2024 • 9:57:25am

re: #314 Decatur Deb

Eating meat on a Friday in Lent should be a felony.

But eggs are ok because they are not chickens.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 9:59:03am

re: #537 Hecuba’s daughter

Unlike his most fervent supporters, Trump doesn’t care about this issue; in any case, consistency is not a word in his vocabulary.

He knows that it is an unpopular issue and he wants to sound like the Voice of Moderation while still pleasing his base.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 10:00:28am

re: #540 prairiefire

For a socialist leaning people, they were sold a bill of goods about privatization. Now they can’t brag about the trains. Any snootiness about ecological advances will be met with “how much salmonella is in your back yard?”

I have always been in favour of privatising the Royal Family: British Royal plc.

Let them earn their own keep from giving speeches, endorsing products and opening shopping centres.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 10:01:20am

re: #543 lawhawk

Assumes that he could even attend those debates, as he could well be a convicted felon and incarcerated by that point. /I know, wishful thinking….

If he is convicted an sentenced he will definitely be under appeal.

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lawhawk  May 22, 2024 • 10:02:06am

Reminder: prosecutors and some judges get elected. In GA, both the judge and DA in the election interference case were up for reelection and both won their primaries handily.

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prairiefire  May 22, 2024 • 10:06:18am

re: #556 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The BRF is so Rich! I don’t see how a monetary figure can be attached when they own so many things that are “priceless”.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 22, 2024 • 10:07:50am
French President Emmanuel Macron is on his way to New Caledonia, a government official has said, after a week of deadly unrest in the Pacific archipelago.

Macron was leaving Paris on Tuesday night and will “set up a mission” in the French territory, government spokesperson Prisca Thevenot told a press conference, without giving further details.

He will be accompanied by Interior Minister Gérald Darmanin, Defense Minister Sébastien Lecornu, and Overseas Minister Marie Guévenoux, Darmanin told the National Assembly.

New Caledonia has been roiled by riots sparked by electoral changes from the national government. The unrest has killed at least six people, and has left a trail of burned cars and looted shops, with road barricades restricting access to medicine and food.

cnn.com

Tourists flee ‘paradise’ islands as deadly riots in New Caledonia leave 6 dead and hundreds injured

561
Nojay UK  May 22, 2024 • 10:10:37am

re: #556 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have always been in favour of privatising the Royal Family: British Royal plc.

Let them earn their own keep from giving speeches, endorsing products and opening shopping centres.

They already do earn their own keep, sort of. The family own a lot of land and other valuable items in their own name. The deal is that the revenues from those family holdings goes to the Government Exchequer and the working Royals that carry out state duties get paid for doing so, including their expenses. It’s a financial loss for The Firm, they don’t get back anything like the monies they gave up in the deal. It’s a bit more complicated than that but it works, a bit like most things in the UK’s way of muddling through.

The family members are wealthy themselves but they’re not even in the top ten richest Britons if I remember correctly, and a lot of foreign oligarchs and oil sheikhs living in London could buy and sell them from pocket change.

562
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 10:10:46am

re: #559 prairiefire

The BRF is so Rich! I don’t see how a monetary figure can be attached when they own so many things that are “priceless”.

Those would of course be repatriated to the British People. They would get to keep one set of regalia for business purposes.

563
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 10:12:37am

re: #561 Nojay UK

The point being that if you like the idea of a Royal family, they you are free to support it, but if you don’t want them, you do not have to pay for them.

And again, where did all those lands and estates and the wealth garnered from them come from? The people.

564
Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 10:16:01am

re: #544 Targetpractice

With who? His cult was being told within an hour of his agreeing to the debates that they were “rigged” and there would be no shame in bowing out. And within 24 hours, the Beltway media was in agreement that Biden was a monster for cutting out the CPD from planning and RFK Jr from participating in the debates. And everybody else seemed to be in agreement that it a “when, not if” question with regards to Trump backing out once he came up with an excuse that sounded right in his head.

hard, not impossible

the other guy is willing, able, and raring to go.
what’s the out?
biden wont take a drug test?
i got a hangnail?
who’s gonna look small and petty?

he asked for the debates
he agreed to the framework almost instantly
the debates are (mostly) for the persuadable
for them it’s gonna be seen for exactly for what it is - fear

565
Mattand  May 22, 2024 • 10:17:37am

re: #513 Nerdy Fish

Yeah, I had a British friend confirming to me the unfolding clown fiesta.

I have an acquaintance who is American but is an extreme Anglophile. Not “Madonna speaking with an English accent” extreme, but getting there. Every flashlight is a “torch”, every truck is a “lorrie”, flies the Union Jack at her house, etc.

It’s like “I love Britain! I want to British! I ask for chips with my burger because that’s British!! Did I tell you I love Brian and I want to British???!! I want to be British!!!!”

She was devastated when Elizabeth II died. Like, stand-in-front-of-a-lorrie devastated.

566
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 22, 2024 • 10:19:23am

Lord keep Biden hale and healthy until November. If he has one little illness or condition that requires even an overnight stay in the hospital, it will be held up as proof that he is too old and fragile to serve as President.

If DJT has to be hospitalized, we will most likely not hear about it and if we do, it will be the result of all the Pressure of the trials and campaign but he is holding up heroically and that is proof of why he should be President.

567
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 22, 2024 • 10:29:35am

re: #480 Nojay UK

It’s not about you, America. Sigh.

From the dissolution of the current Parliament and the issuing of the writ a British General Election campaign normally takes six weeks. The election day is always a Thursday although that’s not engraved in stone like some other countries I could mention. Finish up all essential business tomorrow (the finance bill, mostly), issue the writ, fire all the MPs and add six weeks and hey presto, it’s the 4th of July. Simples.

Damn. And I thought I was special.

568
Nojay UK  May 22, 2024 • 10:36:39am

re: #563 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And again, where did all those lands and estates and the wealth garnered from them come from? The people.

Capitalism, you can’t beat it.

569
jaunte  May 22, 2024 • 10:36:42am

Mastodon

570
JC1  May 22, 2024 • 10:38:11am

re: #411 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

If you are born as a human, your death is guaranteed; “he would die anyway” is not a defense against a charge of murder.

But in this case it was clearly part of god’s plan, yadda, yadda

571
Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 10:39:06am
Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) was asked by Manu Raju on CNN about his appearance last week at Donald Trump’s criminal trial in New York:

RAJU: You think it’s very clear much of this danger in the hush money case. But what about the underlying alleged conduct of paying off a porn star to keep this extramarital affair quiet? You’re a deeply religious man, a moral man. Does that alleged conduct cause any concern about the former president?

JOHNSON: Look, I’m not going — I’m not going to comment on that.

Devout

572
BeenHereAwhile  May 22, 2024 • 10:39:50am

re: #336 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, all your 10mm sockets have disappeared to Narnia.

Yea missing a 10 mm socket is a problem, whereas if you’re missing an 11 mm, you can substitute a 7/16 socket

573
Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 10:41:26am

re: #570 JC1

But in this case it was clearly part of god’s plan, yadda, yadda

Maybe that’s the question

If not for the Romans, how should he have died for our sins and when?

574
A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 22, 2024 • 10:42:10am

re: #570 JC1

But in this case it was clearly part of god’s plan, yadda, yadda

Just exactly how do you know that?

575
Randall Gross  May 22, 2024 • 10:43:42am

I’m old enough to recall when Rudy used to be featured at a traveling grift-show of “inspirational speakers” that businesses would pack their middle & senior managers off to as part of their “development cycle” no need to wonder how capitalism went so far South.
www.huffpost.com/entry/rudy-g…

— Randall Gross (@randallgross.bsky.social) 2024-05-22T17:39:16.511Z

576
Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 10:45:51am
577
jaunte  May 22, 2024 • 10:47:31am

Uvalde news:

@empowlr.bsky.social
92 named TX DPS officers, Pete Arredondo and the former elementary school principal, Mandy Gutierrez, will be sued. Also the state and potentially the feds.

news conference:
news4sanantonio.com

578
Hecuba's daughter  May 22, 2024 • 10:49:31am

re: #399 JC1

The question around inflation is also confusing: inflation is still increasing, it’s the rate of the increase that’s lower. 3% inflation is still and increase in inflation of 3%.

Technically, inflation isn’t increasing; it’s prices that are increasing, but at a lower rate than before. Inflation is declining, but as long as it’s above 0, prices will increase. As long as income increases at the same rate or preferable higher, people can maintain their standard of living.

579
Joe Bacon ✅  May 22, 2024 • 10:50:30am

Cuckoo For Cocoa Puffs off the rails again!

580
Eventual Carrion  May 22, 2024 • 10:50:48am

re: #334 Targetpractice

On the surface, it is. But overall, the plan is to outlaw pornography by simply suffocating it with increasing costs and scrutiny until the persons or companies operating in the US simply cannot make a profit any longer while those outside the US judge selling to American customers to be not worth the cost.

[snip]

Youtube Video

581
🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 22, 2024 • 10:52:34am

I went to Wendy’s for the first time in years today. They gave me the wrong order at the drive-through.

I’ve had to deal with too many incompetent people this week, and it’s only Wednesday.

582
Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 10:53:23am

re: #576 Dangerman

[Embedded content]

FBI responds to Trump claim about Mar-a-Lago search

Ie it was bullshit

583
JC1  May 22, 2024 • 10:54:15am

re: #574 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Just exactly how do you know that?

I’m being facetious. I don’t think that there’s any reliable evidence that a Jesus of Nazareth existed and was put to death on Pontius Pilot’s orders.

BUT, if I were to believe that Jesus was part of on omniscient being’s master plan to save his favorite creations from the ravages of sin he enslaved them with over a pissy fit in the garden, I would logically conclude that every part of what transpired was part of the plan.

584
Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 10:54:34am

re: #579 Joe Bacon ✅

Cuckoo For Cocoa Puffs off the rails again!

[Embedded content]

Yeah he should be part of the debates

585
jaunte  May 22, 2024 • 10:55:18am

re: #582 Dangerman

FBI responds to Trump claim about Mar-a-Lago search

Ie it was bullshit

Also known as ‘a Trump claim.’

586
Shropshire Slasher  May 22, 2024 • 10:57:01am

re: #582 Dangerman

FBI responds to Trump claim about Mar-a-Lago search

Ie it was bullshit

The FBI in a statement on Tuesday said that their search at former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence followed standard protocol, which “includes a standard policy statement limiting the use of deadly force.”

Yeah, that wasn’t standard protocol.

587
sizzzzlerz  May 22, 2024 • 10:59:09am

re: #585 jaunte

Also known as ‘a Trump claim.’

Further known as a burst of intestinal gas

588
🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 22, 2024 • 10:59:23am

re: #573 Dangerman

Maybe that’s the question

If not for the Romans, how should he have died for our sins and when?

It’s clear that it’s all nonsense. Religion is not rooted in fact, logic, or reality itself.

589
Joe Bacon ✅  May 22, 2024 • 11:00:42am

1PM for us folks on the Left Coast…

590
Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 11:01:28am

re: #586 Shropshire Slasher

Yeah, that wasn’t standard protocol.

Former FBI assistant director in charge Steve D’Antuono testified before Congress last year, saying, “it wasn’t even a show of force, right, because we were all in agreement.”

“We made sure we interacted with the Secret Service to make sure we could get into Mar-a-Lago with no issues,” he said.
“We’re not banging down any doors. We weren’t bringing any like FBI vehicles, everything that was reported about helicopters and a hundred people descending on, like a Die Hard movie, was completely untrue, right. That is not how we played it.”

591
Shropshire Slasher  May 22, 2024 • 11:02:51am

re: #590 Dangerman

[Embedded content]

Former FBI assistant director in charge Steve D’Antuono testified before Congress last year, saying, “it wasn’t even a show of force, right, because we were all in agreement.”

“We made sure we interacted with the Secret Service to make sure we could get into Mar-a-Lago with no issues,” he said.
“We’re not banging down any doors. We weren’t bringing any like FBI vehicles, everything that was reported about helicopters and a hundred people descending on, like a Die Hard movie, was completely untrue, right. That is not how we played it.”

Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.

592
Dangerman  May 22, 2024 • 11:05:25am

re: #591 Shropshire Slasher

Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.

He lied to congress?

And Figliuzzi doesn’t know his stuff either?

593
jaunte  May 22, 2024 • 11:05:37am

Christina Bobb, GOP senior counsel for “election integrity.”

@stevebenen.bsky.social

Two months ago, the RNC hired two lawyers to oversee the party’s election-year legal efforts. One was pushed out for being a little too reality-based.

The other was arraigned yesterday, charged with election-related crimes.

msnbc.com

“…Complicating matters, in 2022, a leading Justice Department official went to Mar-a-Lago with a few FBI agents in the hopes of retrieving documents Trump improperly took and refused to voluntarily give back. As part of that meeting, as regular readers might recall, it was Bobb who signed a certification statement, indicating that the former president had fully complied with a grand jury subpoena and no longer had any classified materials at his glorified country club.

That statement, we now know, wasn’t true: As the FBI discovered during a search two months later, Trump still had plenty of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago.”

594
Shropshire Slasher  May 22, 2024 • 11:07:58am

re: #592 Dangerman

He lied to congress?

And Figliuzzi doesn’t know his stuff either?

When is the last time a sitting President raided the former President’s home?

595
gocart mozart  May 22, 2024 • 11:08:40am
596
🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 22, 2024 • 11:11:07am

re: #594 Shropshire Slasher

When is the last time a sitting President raided the former President’s home?

It’s never happened, to this day. Do you have a Republican delusion?

597
Hecuba's daughter  May 22, 2024 • 11:28:05am

re: #504 Dr Lizardo

[Embedded content]

x.com

598
EPR-radar  May 22, 2024 • 11:37:02am

re: #594 Shropshire Slasher

When is the last time a sitting President raided the former President’s home?

That’s an extremely dishonest question.


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