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1 NY Nana  Nov 15, 2008 4:17:39pm

I am going to puke.

How dare he? /Whoops, forgot.

2 [deleted]  Nov 15, 2008 5:21:40pm
3 EE  Nov 15, 2008 5:24:25pm

The “Arab plan” would involve the expulsion of the 500,000 Jews living in east Jerusalem, Judea, and Samaria. While the expulsion of even one Arab for the sake of limiting terrorism is called “collective punishment” and is regarded as a calamity, there is no problem in calling for the expulsion of 500,000 Jews from their homes and communities. The pain that a family feels when it is expelled from home and community is no different if the head of the family is an Arab or is a Jew. This would be a humanitarian disaster.

The lines that Israel would have, along the 1949 Armistice Lines, would give Israel a territorial neck only 9 miles wide. Among Israel’s enemies, that would move the project of eliminating Israel from the back burner to the front burner. Just see the statements of Israel’s enemies right before the 1967 war, so see how they would salivate.

As for Iran, putting another half million Jews out of eastern Jerusalem, out of Judea, and out of Samaria, and putting them closer to ground zero of the nukes that Iran would use against Tel Aviv and Haifa in their surprise attack against Israel when they have nuclear weapons, would just make Israel a more attractive target for Iranian nukes. Also, it would result in more Israeli casualties from a nuclear attack by Iran.

When Obama spoke before AIPAC, he called for an undivided Jerusalem under Israeli sovereignty. But the very next day he took it back. Same with any promises that will be made that this will lead to peace. The day after the ambiguous words — which will be interpreted by the State Department as promising peace — are put onto paper, they will be “clarified” so that they don’t really mean peace at all. And then Israel will be in a very vulnerable position. It will get international pressure to carry out the shrinkage of Israel, and the expulsion of the 500,000 Jews in eastern Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria, and will not get anything in return except some lies.

4 EE  Nov 15, 2008 5:34:33pm

Another harmful effect of shrinking Israel to the 1949 Armistice Lines and expelling the 500,000 Jews living in east Jerusalem, Judea, and Samaria is that much of the population of Israel would then be in firing range of rockets and missiles.

5 Adina in Judea  Nov 15, 2008 5:39:14pm

re: #3 EE

Everything you wrote is absolutely true.

The lines that Israel would have, along the 1949 Armistice Lines, would give Israel a territorial neck only 9 miles wide.

Also, the land that would be given to the “Palestinians” would be the high ground that overlooks Israel’s very densely populated coastal plane.

These settlements protect millions of Jews who would become the targets for rockets that would be fired from the former settlements if they were abandoned.

Rockets would rain down on northern Tel Aviv even worse than the rocket fire that has been raining down on Sderot for 7 years.

Also, rockets would rain down on Ben Gurion airport runways, which would put the insurance companies that insure aircraft in the position of not insuring carriers for trips to Israel. Thus, Israel would be cut off from cargo and from the 7-9 million tourists who help support Israel’s economy by visiting Israel each year.

Israel would become defenseless and her economy would completely collapse, G-d forbid, if Israel withdrew to the ‘67 cease fire lines.

The Saudi Initiative also calls on Israel to allow 4 to 5 million Arabs to flood into the country without Israel having a veto. This would bring on a war, G-d forbid, that would make the fighting in Baghdad look like nothing but harsh words.

This is a recipe for the end of Israel’s existence. Luckily, Tzipi Livni isn’t leading in the polls for the upcoming elections. If Likud wins (which I hope and pray will happen), Bibi Netanyahu will have to use his perfect American English to push Obama’s dreams of Israel’s death to the sidelines as long as it takes for Obama’s reign to expire.

6 Adina in Judea  Nov 15, 2008 5:40:23pm

re: #4 EE

Another harmful effect of shrinking Israel to the 1949 Armistice Lines and expelling the 500,000 Jews living in east Jerusalem, Judea, and Samaria is that much of the population of Israel would then be in firing range of rockets and missiles.

Absolutely right!

I wrote my post before seeing your second post.

7 Adina in Judea  Nov 15, 2008 5:51:37pm

One other thing is that Israel’s banks have mortgages for the homes that are mostly owned by the 500,000 Jews who live in east Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria.

Aside from the billions and billions in investments over the years for infrastructure, businesses and homes where these 500,000 Jews live - Israel’s banks are still owed money for a lot of this. Individual families invested their money and took out loans from Israeli banks to help fund all these mostly privately owned homes and businesses.

The massive scale of the money lost by destroying these homes and businesses would bankrupt Israel.

The “Palestinians” also expect reparations (in addition to being allowed to move into Israel by the millions.) They want reparations for 5 to 9 million people although the number of Arab refugees that left Israel because of the Arab armies was only around 550,000 people.

The Saudi Initiative has only one goal: the end of Israel.


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