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1 Kefirah  Thu, Jun 10, 2010 7:01:35pm

i am all out of witty things to say on this topic.

instead, i'll start out by re.posting this list, provided by the council of young israel, of the chayalim in need of healing:

dean ben svetlana
roee ben shulamit
daniel lazar ben tina taabel leah
yotam ben dorit
ido ben ilana
boris ben eelaina

it is the jewish tradition that when we pray for healing, we use the individual's mother's name.

also, i will add this: taking hostages seems to be a shared modus operandi for these "activists." where is gilad shalit's flotilla?

2 Kefirah  Thu, Jun 10, 2010 7:03:23pm

also, good find, killgore.

3 philosophus invidius  Thu, Jun 10, 2010 7:06:32pm

I honestly don't know what to make of this.
It does seem like it is edited out of order.

4 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 10, 2010 7:32:37pm

re: #3 philosophus invidius

I honestly don't know what to make of this.
It does seem like it is edited out of order.

Yes, I think the whole video is a little out of order. I'm curious about the blood on the ladder they show early on. I'm not sure where that happened in the timeline.

5 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 10, 2010 7:36:08pm

I still don't get the onions.

6 philosophus invidius  Thu, Jun 10, 2010 8:18:41pm

re: #4 Killgore Trout

It looks like that ladder appears again without blood. Perhaps there are identical ladders on the boat. But it seems more likely that it is the same ladder. Perhaps the re-ordering edit is to make it seem as if there was carnage before the commandos are captured?

7 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 10, 2010 8:28:07pm

re: #6 philosophus invidius

It looks like that ladder appears again without blood. Perhaps there are identical ladders on the boat. But it seems more likely that it is the same ladder. Perhaps the re-ordering edit is to make it seem as if there was carnage before the commandos are captured?

Could be but I don't think there's much logic behind the editing. It's more or less in order but pretty much random. I don't think they put much thought into it.

8 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 10, 2010 8:30:06pm

I just noticed this on their Vimeo Page.....

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Lol, ok. Don't mind if I do.

9 philosophus invidius  Thu, Jun 10, 2010 9:00:11pm

re: #5 Killgore Trout

I still don't get the onions.

Weird. That guy is desperate for onions. It's like he thinks someone's life depends on it.

10 philosophus invidius  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:36:55am

re: #5 Killgore Trout

I still don't get the onions.

Just had an idea: instead of smelling salts.

11 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:39:16am

re: #10 philosophus invidius

Just had an idea: instead of smelling salts.

I wonder if it has something to do with teargas.

12 philosophus invidius  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:49:29am

Well, if you google 'onions "smelling salts"' there are a lot of results (though not necessarily from reputable sites). And there are surely some people right there who are serious injured and possibly in shock.

13 Joo-LiZ  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 5:06:45pm

For some reason, YNet links to a youtube click of Democracy Now!'s highly edited version of this. Only shows the victims/wounded. No sign of the Israeli soldier inside the boat.

I'm not really sure what is new in this video that we hadn't seen before.

14 WookieInHeat  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:46:03pm

just wanted to point out, the "blood" on the ladder is infact red paint from israeli paintball guns.

the man crouching by the life boat and talking to the camera around 1:45 is explaining this in norwegian.

15 WookieInHeat  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:49:08pm

just watched the full 1 hour video at the website from the clip. this version has edited out an israeli boat making an unsuccessful boarding attempt on the starboard side of the ship, just before the helicopter comes overhead. this boarding attempt is when the red paintballs are fired at the side of the ship, as the israelis try to repell the people throwing chairs and miscelaneous objects at them from above.

i don't understand how anyone, after seeing all the video of this incident, can still sit there and claim the passengers of the mavi marmara were pacifists simply trying to deliver humanitarian supplies, its absurd. many of the activists and their advocates had even been claiming the israelis fired at the ship before boarding, there was no evidence to confirm or deny this except for israeli counter claims, until now. this video has put that myth to bed, thankfully. just goes to show the degree of lying and manipulation people are willing to go to in order to acheive their political goals.


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