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1 captdiggs  Tue, Aug 31, 2010 5:20:23pm

I agree with Charles on the kooky kos kid


"Those Kooky Kos Kidz are convinced that the “rightwing machine” is unjustly smearing Newsweek magazine, and they come out strongly in favor of taking the word of released jihadis whenever they complain of mistreatment: Daily Kos :: The Newsweek Backtrack: Did the Right Win a Game of Chicken?

Of course, it would be too much to expect the Kidz to educate themselves when they can just blame all the world’s ills on America and invent fantasies about monolithic “rightwing machines,” but an Al Qaeda Training Manual specifically instructs jihadis how to manipulate useful idiots like the Kidz—and it obviously works"
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

2 Jimmah  Tue, Aug 31, 2010 5:32:07pm

Still trying to live in the past eh, captdiggs?

I guess it's much more comfortable than discussing the issues raised by the subject of this page?

"In the book, I show how similar both the American Taliban and Islamic Jihadists are -- from their fetishization of violence and guns, to their love of theocracy, to their hatred of women and gays, to their fear of scientific progress and education, to their weird hangups about sex, to their disdain for popular culture."

3 captdiggs  Tue, Aug 31, 2010 5:51:00pm

re: #2 Jimmah

Moulitsas is an off his rocker moonbat.
If what Charles said "in the past" is now deemed wrong, or incorrect, I'd like to hear how that assessment has changed.
Haven't read it, nor will I.

4 Jimmah  Tue, Aug 31, 2010 5:55:05pm

re: #3 captdiggs

I suggest you think about why Charles downdinged you.

5 captdiggs  Tue, Aug 31, 2010 6:00:39pm

re: #4 Jimmah

It would be nice if people responded instead of just "downdinged".

6 Jimmah  Tue, Aug 31, 2010 6:12:28pm

re: #5 captdiggs

It would be nice if people responded instead of just "downdinged".

I suspect Charles can't be bothered responding with anything more than a downding. I expect he's got better things to do than explain to you what everyone else reading this site for the last few years already knows.

7 iceweasel  Tue, Aug 31, 2010 6:16:17pm

re: #5 captdiggs

It would be nice if people responded instead of just "downdinged".

Ok, here's one. Pfffft.

Seriously though, I should take issue with you in part for saying "I haven't read it and I won't". The issue isn't, or shouldn't be, some doomed hunt by you for 'gotcha' quotes (doomed because it illustrates that you can't think, doubly doomed because you inevitably misread them with sadly hilarious results)-- try thinking. This involves letting in the possibility of information that will occasionally upset your conclusions.

8 Virginia Plain  Tue, Aug 31, 2010 6:20:50pm

The Daily Kos is crazy (sometimes) but they will never be as dangerous as the right wing hate machine is right now.

9 captdiggs  Tue, Aug 31, 2010 6:29:44pm

re: #7 iceweasel


Moulitsas has taken outrageous and unthinking positions in the past with scarcely a hint of any rationality behind them. His motivation is purely his hatred of those who are not as bat-shit crazy as he is.
Any person can create some half baked 6 degrees of separation rant about any two groups of people. For instance, had I a mind, and some people have written of this, I could come up with the same sort of rant on the convergence of the far left and neo nazi ideologies vis-a-vis their anti-semitism and support of the mass murder of Israeli Jews.

What Charles said about the kooky kos kids inventing fantasies about the right was right on target..no matter when he said it.

As far as your poor attempt at ad hominem, I don't get worked up by pompous assholes who think their intellect towers above all who have opposing views. If anything, it only indicates your own inability to think critically.

10 iceweasel  Tue, Aug 31, 2010 6:34:12pm

re: #9 captdiggs

As far as your poor attempt at ad hominem, I don't get worked up by pompous assholes who think their intellect towers above all who have opposing views. If anything, it only indicates your own inability to think critically.

I merely pointed out your lack of logic, amply demonstrated once again above by your misuse of the term 'ad hominem'.

But don't let me stop you from continuing to dig.

11 Jimmah  Tue, Aug 31, 2010 6:35:28pm

re: #9 captdiggs

half baked 6 degrees of separation rant

As far as your poor attempt at ad hominem,

You don't even understand the terms you are using.

I don't get worked up by pompous assholes who think their intellect towers above all who have opposing views.

Ten out of ten for hypocrisy though. Keep going - every time you type you just make a bigger idiot of yourself.

12 captdiggs  Tue, Aug 31, 2010 6:35:45pm

re: #10 iceweasel

A non answer, as expected.

Enjoy your kos party

13 Jimmah  Tue, Aug 31, 2010 6:37:44pm

re: #12 captdiggs

A non answer, as expected.

Enjoy your kos party

Try a little honesty. It's LGF you are really angry about.

14 iceweasel  Tue, Aug 31, 2010 6:41:15pm

re: #12 captdiggs

A non answer, as expected.

Enjoy your kos party

You know, no one is right all the time. Even if you don't like someone's positions on x, they might be right on y. Realising this is part of being a thinking human being.

You haven't come up with anything here except to stamp your feet, say, "I don't like something kos said 6 years ago, Waaaah!" and state outright that you won't even bother to read anything about it-- even though it just so happens to parallel many of the topics here and at issue in politics today.
Which raises the question, why did you even post on this page to begin with?

15 captdiggs  Tue, Aug 31, 2010 6:46:43pm

re: #13 Jimmah

Try a little honesty. It's LGF you are really angry about.

"Angry"?
You take message boards too seriously. It's all entertainment.
I get into debates, sometimes they are stimulating, sometimes not.
But I don't take any of this all that seriously.
Most people here and on other forums are armchair warriors for their "cause", whatever that is. But their effect on the world is zip, nada, zero.

16 Jimmah  Tue, Aug 31, 2010 7:23:28pm

re: #15 captdiggs

"Angry"?
You take message boards too seriously. It's all entertainment.
I get into debates, sometimes they are stimulating, sometimes not.
But I don't take any of this all that seriously.
Most people here and on other forums are armchair warriors for their "cause", whatever that is. But their effect on the world is zip, nada, zero.

So you're just trying to embarrass Charles with old posts for fun? Good to know.

Thing is captdiggs, we all know that wingnuts take the changes on LGF in the last few years very, very seriously indeed. Their enduring butthurt is no laughing matter, at least not for them. But you knew that, of course.

17 captdiggs  Tue, Aug 31, 2010 7:54:05pm

re: #16 Jimmah

Actually, I was using his opinion to buttress my own concerning Moulitsas' lack of credibility.
And contrary to your opinion, I don't believe Charles' old postings are an embarrassment to him, quite the contrary.

18 Jimmah  Tue, Aug 31, 2010 8:45:36pm

re: #17 captdiggs

Ah yes of course, you feel it's his new postings that are an embarrassment to him. We get you.

19 alexknyc  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:49:40pm

It seems to me that Charles has always been anti-idiot, rather than left or right.

Admittedly, I haven't been here long (2 years this fall) and don't post daily (though I do read and upding when I can), but I have no doubt that, should the far left become as big a threat to American liberty and security as the far right is now, Charles will have no problem calling them out on it.

Kos (and the Kos Kidz) can go spinning off wildly at times. But, that doesn't mean they're always wrong about everything. I think he's got an interesting topic and actually look forward to reading more about the parallels he draws (and why he draws them) when I have the time to read the book.

I think there is a sense of unhappiness on the part of the more conservative members of the community because Charles has gone from skewering their "enemies" to attacking their "friends."

To that I say, too fucking bad.

When your "friends" are anti-science, misogynistic, xenophobic, homophobic racists, it's time to re-examine where (and with whom) you stand.

Charles did it. Maybe you should too, captdiggs.


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