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1 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Mar 19, 2011 1:14:25pm

Maybe the women should incorporate themselves. /

2 Lidane  Sat, Mar 19, 2011 2:07:39pm

I will never, ever understand how any woman can support the GOP. It's so obvious that the party hates anyone who isn't a straight, white, Christian male.

3 Querent  Sat, Mar 19, 2011 5:19:16pm

W.
T.
F!

4 dragonfire1981  Sat, Mar 19, 2011 6:17:12pm

Legal extortion?

5 sagehen  Sat, Mar 19, 2011 7:12:43pm

So the rapist, not having already had enough sadistic pleasure both during the rape, and watching her have to describe it on the witness stand... can then report her to the IRS and make her prove it AGAIN just to be absolutely sure he gets in one last punch.

And if the woman he raped was his ex-girlfriend (the rape is the reason she broke up with him, and the fact that she'd been his girlfriend until that day is why she thought it would be too hard to persuade a jury and so didn't report it)... ooh, how delicious is he going to think it is to send *her* to prison for tax fraud?

But the GOP wants to keep government out of our wallets, because those are so much more precious and personal than girly-bits.

6 Lidane  Sat, Mar 19, 2011 7:34:56pm

re: #5 sagehen

But the GOP wants to keep government out of our wallets, because those are so much more precious and personal than girly-bits.

LIMITED GOVERNMENT! FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY! INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS!

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7 Lidane  Sat, Mar 19, 2011 7:41:36pm

re: #4 dragonfire1981

Legal extortion?

That and legalized misogyny. I dare them to start auditing married couples with this law, or single men who happen to have insurance that covers abortion services. It won't happen.

8 KingKenrod  Sun, Mar 20, 2011 1:11:00am

I don't see how this is much different from the current situation. Before HCR, the Hyde Amendment banned federal funding of abortions except for the rape/incest/life of the mother exception. If a woman received a subsidized abortion, she has to indicate on Medicare paperwork whether the abortion qualifies for the subsidy - hence, if this subsidy in any way affects her tax return, the IRS can audit it. Yes, they can audit any medical expense or subsidy to determine if the taxpayer qualified. Of course, the IRS may have "internal" rules about avoiding this issue.

But now with HCR (and Obama's executive order), because the federal government provides subsidies for private insurance, not just Medicare, the reach on the abortion issue goes into these private plans...in other words, isn't this a problem even without the GOP shenanigans? And even if the Hyde Amendment were completely dropped, any woman who had an abortion subsidized by taxpayers could still be audited on the issue (ie forced to justify the expense to an IRS agent).

9 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, Mar 20, 2011 3:15:21am

re: #8 KingKenrod

I don't see how this is much different from the current situation.
But now with HCR (and Obama's executive order), because the federal government provides subsidies for private insurance, not just Medicare, the reach on the abortion issue goes into these private plans...in other words, isn't this a problem even without the GOP shenanigans? And even if the Hyde Amendment were completely dropped, any woman who had an abortion subsidized by taxpayers could still be audited on the issue (ie forced to justify the expense to an IRS agent).

Yes, the Hyde Amendment was and is a problem anyway; this would go even further in various ways:

This bill would make permanent and expand the Hyde amendment restrictions on the use of federal funds for abortions. It seeks to prohibit even indirect funding streams that may potentially come in contact with abortion services. For example, it would deny tax credits to companies that offer health plans that cover abortions and it would block anybody with insurance that covers abortions from receiving federal subsidies, even if the abortion portion is paid separately with personal funds. It would also redefine rape for the purpose of exempting resulting abortions from the federal funding restrictions as "forcible rape" and limit the incest exemption to cases where the women is a minor.



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