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1 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 12:01:05pm

Much thanks for posting this. Watching his Ted lecture now.

2 freetoken  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 12:31:41pm

re: #1 Killgore Trout

His video left me a bit disappointed, as I feel he really needed to have more accurate slides (on data on topics like Peak Oil, population, hunger, etc.), and that he also needed to make the case more strongly on how our local lifestyles, with our community ordinances, work against building a more locally grown food supply.

In summary I'd put it this way: his heart is in the right place, but his head needs to catch up.

3 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 1:38:14pm

re: #2 freetoken

His video left me a bit disappointed, as I feel he really needed to have more accurate slides (on data on topics like Peak Oil, population, hunger, etc.), and that he also needed to make the case more strongly on how our local lifestyles, with our community ordinances, work against building a more locally grown food supply.

In summary I'd put it this way: his heart is in the right place, but his head needs to catch up.

What's really needed is a charismatic advocate for the cause. When I gave up on American TV a few years ago I started watching cooking and gardening shows from the UK. Lot's of celebrity chefs doing entertaining and educational food awareness programs covering issues of sustainability, gardening, cooking, community programs, etc. I think that sort of thing can have a substantial impact on our food culture. I've been spending a lot of time recently in the local permit office to get my greenhouse plans approved. The waiting area is filled with magazines about Portlanders growing their own food and community gardens. There is interest out there but there need to be some charismatic advocates for it.

4 freetoken  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 5:22:27pm

re: #3 Killgore Trout

What's really needed is a charismatic advocate for the cause. When I gave up on American TV a few years ago I started watching cooking and gardening shows from the UK.

Yes, love Monty Don's program too.

I remember years ago watching The Victory Garden with James Crockett on PBS. I guess the series is still going, but I haven't watched it in at least 20 years. There have always been productive gardening shows, societies, publications, etc. in this country, but it's pretty clear to me that just by walking around the San Diego that few people use their property to grow food. Most of the fruit trees I see were planted years ago, and just about everywhere I walk I see that the majority of people just let the fruit rot on the tree or fall to the ground. The local stores import oranges from Australia while in the same neighborhood oranges are falling to the ground and rotting. A real shame, and IMO immoral.

5 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:19:32pm

I have a lot of questions about this, but I'll look at his proposal more closely before making them. I'm in favor of gardening, in favor of people eating more fruits and veggies, etc., but maintaining a big kitchen garden, canning, preserving, etc. is a considerable task, and most people work full-time jobs outside the home and will have to regardless of how much chutney they put up. Suburban people cannot, for the most part, produce dairy or enough grains to feed themselves throughout the year on a backyard plot. Urban people even less so. And we have a considerable economic investment in post-industrialized food production and distribution, which, for all its failings, keep us largely well and safely fed as a nation.

I am completely willing to encourage gardening. I'm just not sure how much of a solution to anything is is for how many people.

6 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:20:45pm

re: #4 freetoken

Yes, love Monty Don's program too.

I remember years ago watching The Victory Garden with James Crockett on PBS. I guess the series is still going, but I haven't watched it in at least 20 years. There have always been productive gardening shows, societies, publications, etc. in this country, but it's pretty clear to me that just by walking around the San Diego that few people use their property to grow food. Most of the fruit trees I see were planted years ago, and just about everywhere I walk I see that the majority of people just let the fruit rot on the tree or fall to the ground. The local stores import oranges from Australia while in the same neighborhood oranges are falling to the ground and rotting. A real shame, and IMO immoral.

This lady is doing her best to put that fruit to good use in my area. Someone in San Diego could pick the idea up easily.

7 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Oct 29, 2011 7:41:28pm

I'm kinda excited about a lot of the Urban Gardening ideas. I think it'd healthy for individuals to "dig in the dirt" and for children to learn by doing so.

It would be very ironic if Detroit becomes known for being Urban Farming community.

Brave New World and all!


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