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1 Interesting Times  Thu, Mar 15, 2012 8:47:55am

This would help explain all the:

Look! SQUIRREL! Soledad O'Brien anti-Semite! Derp.

Pathetically predictable projection - lie about someone else in order to distract from them using anti-Semitic attacks, against a private citizen and his family no less.

What creepy, evil, disgusting people.

2 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 15, 2012 9:39:37am

Somebody help me out here. I liked this description because it was so clear and succinct:

Still, I try to observe a basic rule: somebody’s Jewishness can never be used as proof for something else about the person. Frequently I’ll try to use shared attributes of a group of people to prove something about Jewishness, but never the other way around. If something is Jewish (pace Lenny Bruce), that’s okay; if Jewish is something, that’s not.

The problem is, in the very next sentence he seems to be doing exactly what he just said is against his basic rule:

Armed with that rule, and with the understanding that Jewishness is extremely dialectical...

Can someone please explain the difference? Because now I'm confused.

3 shutdown  Thu, Mar 15, 2012 9:39:53am

Never heard of the writer,the blog, the magazine. Doesn't look like I missed much.

4 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 15, 2012 9:42:45am

re: #2 CuriousLurker

Somebody help me out here. I liked this description because it was so clear and succinct:

The problem is, in the very next sentence he seems to be doing exactly what he just said is against his basic rule:

Can someone please explain the difference? Because now I'm confused.

Not completely sure, but seems like he is talking about the concept in the last sentence, not about the people and therein might lie the difference.

5 calochortus  Thu, Mar 15, 2012 9:46:13am

It's probably the result of my lack of intellectual ability, but my reaction to his carefully explained position is, in it's entirety: Huh? What?

6 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 15, 2012 9:48:02am

re: #4 Freeze Peach

Not completely sure, but seems like he is talking about the concept in the last sentence, not about the people and therein might lie the difference.

Hmm, okay, that would make more sense. Thanks.

7 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Mar 15, 2012 9:51:54am

re: #2 CuriousLurker

Armed with that rule, and with the understanding that Jewishness is extremely dialectical...

Can someone please explain the difference? Because now I'm confused.

It's just somebody who is in love with his own sense of self importance.

8 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 15, 2012 9:52:47am

re: #5 calochortus

To sum it up as far as I can tell: Some subjects have been heavily influenced by prominent Jews, and form part of what you could call "Jewishness". The culture of "Jewishness" includes things that Jews have had a lot of influence on. As the author of this piece notes, this often means that things that are exactly opposite are "Jewish". Being very secular is Jewish. Being very religious is Jewish.


However, this says nothing, means nothing about what Jewish means or is, especially as it applies to individual Jews. There's no reason to assume with any person that their Jewishness means any thing or you can draw any conclusions from the fact that they're Jewish, which is what the asshole Brooks Bayne spends his entire time doing.

The author of the criticism confuses the argument a little, because Bayne doesn't just stick to making assumptions about people based on the fact that they're Jewish, but also assumes that liberal Jews are allied with each other or in some sort of conspiracy.

9 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 15, 2012 9:53:12am

re: #7 Learned Mother of Zion

It's just somebody who is in love with his own sense of self importance.

It's not Bayne's words ;)

10 dallasdoc  Thu, Mar 15, 2012 10:36:46am

re: #5 calochortus

forgive me for being less than modest, but i do have considerable intellectual ability and i too agree with the Huh? What? reaction

11 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Mar 15, 2012 11:03:32am

re: #9 Freeze Peach

It's not Bayne's words ;)

There is nothing "Jewier" than splitting hairs over the definition of "Jewiness."

Let me make it excruciatingly simple: Mother of Zion is the be-all and end-all and the epitome of Jewiness. Anything else is just a tangent of my existence.


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