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1 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Apr 21, 2012 6:28:05pm

Just be safe, and do not be afraid of such stupid haters.

2 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 21, 2012 6:30:48pm

It's the Meeting of the Stalkers. The Martinez-Lisciotto Convergence.

3 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 21, 2012 6:34:49pm

Putting on the editor's hat, maybe the headline could be improved? Most people have no idea who these two miscreants are, or why they should care. Possibly more catchy: "Owner of Right Wing Stalker Blog Publishes Holocaust Denier's Smears?"

4 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 21, 2012 6:49:49pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

CL is not a denier, he's just their pal. I will try to edit now.

5 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 21, 2012 6:51:56pm

Charles, when you added the pic, the post got chopped off.

6 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 21, 2012 6:53:53pm

I have Carmelo's photos, BTW, but I guess he will be complaining about privacy and such to the provider, he's done that before.

7 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 21, 2012 6:55:10pm

OK, restored the post.

8 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 21, 2012 6:57:47pm

We're editing at the same time, never a good idea. I'll now step aside and let you continue making any changes you see fit.

9 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Apr 21, 2012 7:13:02pm

I'm still laughing at Daedalus's psychopathic bullshit fantasy rant:

I became a member of the Latin Kings
At that point we fought a gang called the Albanian Bad Boys
Some of them were in Astoria
Some of them in the Bronx
We shot up their mosque
Ahh, I'm not going to say what I did
And, ah a few of them got a cut across the face

Somebody needs to put that to music.

10 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 21, 2012 7:23:03pm

Charles, I need this for the record.

Can you please confirm (without revealing further details) that I'm posting this from a Russian IP which is also not a proxy?

11 Gus  Sat, Apr 21, 2012 7:27:08pm

re: #10 Sergey Romanov

Charles, I need this for the record.

Can you please confirm (without revealing further details) that I'm posting this from a Russian IP which is also not a proxy?

I can see that so far 85 percent of the clicks are coming from the RU Federation.

12 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 21, 2012 7:40:36pm

re: #10 Sergey Romanov

Charles, I need this for the record.

Can you please confirm (without revealing further details) that I'm posting this from a Russian IP which is also not a proxy?

Yes, it's a Russian IP address and does not appear to be an anonymous proxy.

13 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Apr 21, 2012 7:41:20pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Thanks. Just want to link this in the text and I'm done for today.

14 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 21, 2012 8:10:43pm

re: #9 goddamnedfrank

I'm still laughing at Daedalus's psychopathic bullshit fantasy rant:

Somebody needs to put that to music.

A track of fart recordings sounds more worthy of that piece of drek.

15 SpaceJesus  Sat, Apr 21, 2012 8:12:56pm

which one of them is the toobox in the picture up there?

16 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 21, 2012 8:24:33pm

Dorkus's and Bagua now think a poster over there with the nic of 'Notchabusines' is really Sergey's sock puppet.

Of course, my saying this will "prove" to Bagua that I am "codependent" on Sergey. Lame.

17 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 21, 2012 8:48:53pm

Excellent post, Sergey. Thanks.

18 Aye Pod  Sun, Apr 22, 2012 2:59:13am
You may ask: what makes such a person tick? Why is he so obsessed? The truth, as it turns out, is that Carmelo Lisciotto has been an internet troll for a very long time. He’s been trolling the Usenet for years (as “Carmlo” and under other nicknames) and has been quite notorious. Here’s one person describing his behavior in 1998:

It's amazing the time and energy that these losers have to devote to their personal hate campaigns. I think that a total lack of real world relationships or anything resembling a life must be an essential element of the stalker character.

19 Aye Pod  Sun, Apr 22, 2012 3:01:18am

Sergey, these people are obviously seriously unhinged psychopaths - any remotely normal, intelligent person can see that straight away. The best they can ever hope for is to connect with other psychopaths - no-one else is ever going to take them seriously.

20 Buck  Sun, Apr 22, 2012 9:01:55am

I am sure that you are being attacked by unhinged people. i know a little about that. I am in NO WAY BLAMING THE VICTIM (which I believe is you).

However I am going to give you some unsolicited constructive criticism. Yes, maybe you should hear this from a friend. Maybe they should be willing to tell you uncomfortable opinions. Maybe they have, I don't know.

Here it goes, take it for what it is worth:

It seems to me that when you think you are absolutely right, then the other guy has to be absolutely wrong. Sometimes we are talking just your opinion, and the other guy just has a different opinion. In many of those cases, I have observed that you go from zero to sledgehammer in two posts or less in order to beat the other opinion into submission.

I am not talking about dropping the hammer on Holocaust deniers. However not every discussion is at that level. It is my observation that you can make it seem like every topic is at that absolute truth.

I could give you examples of how you have done that to me, but that might seem self serving. Instead I am going to give you an example that didn't in any way involve me. You did it a few days ago on the subject of adult incest. You expressed your opinion in absolute terms and would not give quarter, even on a subject that clearly is not as cut and dried for many others (and for good reason, in their opinion).

If I say that I felt bad about how uncomfortable you made Obdicut, you know it must have seemed mighty extreme.

I just think that if you see this sort of extreme reaction (personal stalkers) to your time on the internet, you might want to simply examine yourself and your style. Again, not blaming the victim, just making an observation and giving what I think is constructive words.

21 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Apr 22, 2012 9:07:44am

re: #20 Buck

I noted your opinion. I could argue with it, but I don't want to start an extraneous dispute on unrelated topics.

22 Obdicut  Sun, Apr 22, 2012 9:07:52am

re: #20 Buck

If I say that I felt bad about how uncomfortable you made Obdicut, you know it must have seemed mighty extreme.

Buck, you total asshole, never, ever use me as a reference. You, who slimly insinuated I defended pedophiles, you make me uncomfortable. Sergey does not. His points were perfectly valid; that I have difficulty talking about the topic because of PTSD is not his damn fault.

Jesus, that's slimy of you. Every time, every goddamn time I think you've hit rock bottom, you find a way to be a bigger slimeball.

23 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sun, Apr 22, 2012 9:08:21am

Please, let's keep other disputes out of it.

24 Obdicut  Sun, Apr 22, 2012 9:09:53am

re: #23 Sergey Romanov

True. Unnecessary distraction.

Buck, what did any of the crap you spewed have to do with this particular post of Serey's? Be specific.

25 CuriousLurker  Sun, Apr 22, 2012 9:11:14am

In-freaking-credible.

26 Buck  Sun, Apr 22, 2012 9:14:24am

re: #24 Obdicut

True. Unnecessary distraction.

Buck, what did any of the crap you spewed have to do with this particular post of Serey's? Be specific.

I think I was incredibly specific.

Ironic that you are going from zero to sledgahmmer in one post... well maybe not ironic as that would infer that it is surprising.

You, who slimly insinuated I defended pedophiles,

Oh, and I never did that, ever. It never happened.

27 Obdicut  Sun, Apr 22, 2012 9:17:41am

re: #26 Buck

Nope. you made a vague, generalized statement that blamed the victim, while poe-mouthedly claiming you weren't.

In what way do you feel Martinez or Lisciotto's opinions on the topic of Sergey are not wrong?

By the way:

I just think that if you see this sort of extreme reaction (personal stalkers) to your time on the internet, youmight want to simply examine yourself and your style. Again, not blaming the victim, just making an observation and giving what I think is constructive words.

How is saying, effectively, "It may be something you're doing", not blaming the victim?

28 Buck  Sun, Apr 22, 2012 9:22:56am

re: #27 Obdicut

In what way do you feel Martinez or Lisciotto's opinions on the topic of Sergey are not wrong?

I didn't say I thought they are not wrong. In fact I said the exact opposite.

See, this is the "unhinged" bull shit that I have to put up with from you.

29 Obdicut  Sun, Apr 22, 2012 9:25:52am

re: #28 Buck

Sergey's asked me to drop this, so I will. Glad to see that thin veneer of concern for me vanished like cotton candy in a tornado.

30 Buck  Sun, Apr 22, 2012 9:31:49am

re: #27 Obdicut

I also did not say "It may be something you're doing".

Let me give you another example. In order to avoid conflict they say you should use "I" statements. I think this way, and I think that way. Not to tell people what they think. The other person can always argue against what you say they think, but no one can tell me what I think.

It might be hard to explain, you can look up I-Statements if you want a better and more detailed explanation.

The point is that changing the way you express your opinion is in no way saying you have been at fault for trigging the ass hat in others. It is simply a way that might just avoid the extreme reactions of others, and still allow you to express your opinion.

31 Buck  Sun, Apr 22, 2012 9:35:43am

re: #29 Obdicut

Glad to see that thin veneer of concern for me vanished like cotton candy in a tornado.

A great example of you telling me what I am thinking. You don't know. In fact that concern was and is real. That is what I am thinking, and you can't even pretend to know otherwise.

32 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Apr 22, 2012 10:17:02am

re: #9 goddamnedfrank

I'm still laughing at Daedalus's psychopathic bullshit fantasy rant:

Somebody needs to put that to music.

You're right. It has potential.

33 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Sun, Apr 22, 2012 10:48:10am

Buck, how the hell did you manage to make this whole thing all about YOU?
LOL!

34 Lidane  Sun, Apr 22, 2012 12:42:12pm

re: #33 The Round Heeled Savage Cannibal Ghoul

He managed it by being a total asshole, as usual.

Great page, Sergey. I don't know much of anything about the context, but this has been a fascinating read. I'm sorry that Buck was his usual trolling douche self and made it about him. Again.


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