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1 researchok  Fri, Aug 3, 2012 6:06:53pm

The word 'Bizarre' comes to mind.

2 wheat-dogg  Fri, Aug 3, 2012 6:08:45pm

Something about the blind leading the blind ...

3 b_sharp  Fri, Aug 3, 2012 7:02:49pm

Penultimate point is good and funny. Now where is the ultimate point?

4 calochortus  Fri, Aug 3, 2012 7:07:16pm

re: #3 b_sharp

Penultimate point is good and funny. Now where is the ultimate point?

Go to the link. His final point (and the others not included here) are laid out on his website.


So, was this written for 4th graders or written by 4th graders?

5 Destro  Fri, Aug 3, 2012 11:35:32pm

The author of this writes:

But now, the twist: I don't have a problem with hardcore religious faith... and I don't even have a problem with creationism or teaching creationism to children. Just because I don't believe that "God did it" is the answer doesn't mean I'm anti-faith or anti-belief. It's like I said when I was reviewing Bill Maher's Religulous -- if you're completely dismissive of religion, that doesn't make you opposed to zealotry, it just makes you a different kind of zealot.

I disagree. In this day and age, teaching people unscientific bullshit is a danger to me and mine. A whole society of such people will ignore and deny global warming, deny and resist vaccinations (remember the GOP's anti HPV vaccine freak out? That was religous based because they think it will make girls not afraid to have sex outside of marriage) and a whole host of other stuff that impacts lives for the worst.

The more we are dismissive of religionists in the public sphere in a way that does not infringe on the 1st ammend the better.

6 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Aug 4, 2012 3:59:53am

re: #5 Destro

I thought that was pretty wobbly of him myself, since he had already been pretty dismissive. I thought this passage was especially inconsistent and disturbing:

....and I don't even have a problem with creationism or teaching creationism to children.

I have a big problem with it because it is a pack of lies and it utterly demonizes scientists and the scientific enterprise. Teaching it to children is a big part of preparing them to be gullible dupes of the evangelism/fundamentalism industry for their entire lives. It is not "zealotry" to call a horsethief a horsethief, and it is certainly not equivalent to being a horsethief.

7 lostlakehiker  Sat, Aug 4, 2012 11:41:20am

Where is the mystery? Electricity comes from the wall plug. Doh! ///


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