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1 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Nov 19, 2012 10:40:03am

Tea partiers declare war at free republic:

TEA Party to Gee-O-Pee Establishment: 'Yeah, It's a War- and You're Going to Lose It'

Note the photo they use as a hook.

2 Locker  Mon, Nov 19, 2012 10:55:07am

These are the behaviors of people don't believe in democracy. They believe any and all rules, structure, information, polls and election results are trumped by the simplistic concept of "We are divinely mandated to win and anyone who says otherwise can talk to my shotgun."

Fine example of an upstanding citizen who loves his/her country... yea right.

3 lawhawk  Mon, Nov 19, 2012 11:10:53am

30 states have petitions in varying stages of readiness declaring their intent to seceed from the USA.

I doubt most of those folks would realize that if they did so, they would become so much poorer as a result.

For instance New Mexico has a petition, yet it gets more than $2 back for every $1 it sends to the federal government. NM isn't exactly a wealthy state in the first place, so losing the federal funds would be harm it even more. You can go through all the states, and only a handful would benefit on the federal/state transfer question (in other words that they send more to the federal government than they receive back in program funds - NJ being one).

And none of these folks have any idea what it costs for military spending, natural disaster response, diplomatic missions, etc., or any number of other programs like a post office service.

4 researchok  Mon, Nov 19, 2012 11:19:41am

re: #2 Locker

Clearly, there is some of that but we have to be careful not to overreach.

You may be on to something.

Sore losers are a part of the game- and process. What I believe we are seeing here is a temper tantrum but one that isn't the of the lying-on-the-floor-and kicking-and screaming-kind.

What we are seeing here is a reach out and try to hurt and cause as much damage as we can and punish as many people as necessary kind of tantrum

The first is selfish and self destructive.

The second is malicious, far reaching and abusive of others- and that is where I believe the focus ought to be.

Angry with your political adversaries? OK, so be it. Like I said, all part of the game, I believe.

However, lashing out, hurting and exploiting others and attempting to tear down the fabric of the system is a whole other thing

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5 philosophus invidius  Mon, Nov 19, 2012 1:49:52pm


Hint: Paul says Obamacare mandates justify secession.

6 cinesimon  Mon, Nov 19, 2012 1:53:14pm

Problem is, the behavior and beliefs are fully mainstream now. How're the likes of John McCain and Paul Ryan, both conspiracy theorists and one a full-on Randian, going to be booted from the GOP?

7 cinesimon  Mon, Nov 19, 2012 1:54:54pm

re: #4 researchok

"...and attempting to tear down the fabric of the system is a whole other thing"

That's been pretty much the mantra of a majority of republicans since they decided that Reagan's bumper sticker slogan ought to be their reason to be in politics.


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