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1 jamesfirecat  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 11:55:24am

Clearly the second worst decision he's made in his life (the first would be agreeing to be in the prequels)

2 Major Tom  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 12:21:35pm

I'm torn here... It's obvious that limiting, or highly regulating who can own and use a gun would have 'some effect' on how successful these mass shooters are, however, it's true that there are millions upon millions of gun owners (100+ million), many own AR-15s and the like. Even an assault weapons ban wouldn't take the already owned (around 100 million) assault weapons off the street... I don't know, high capacity mags suffer from the same problem, I know guys with dozens of them... If there was a rash of people making bombs from highly available home chemicals, would we outlaw draino? I have to admit, I have been passing around antigun statements and possible legislative moves on FB, but the other side is convincing me that there can be no law that impacts the scope of this problem, outside of amending the constitution, and that won't happen... I'm really being convinced that this IS a mental health issue, and not a fire arm issue. (Disclaimer: I have never even held a gun before, so I'm not an expert)

3 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 12:27:57pm

re: #2 Major Tom

I'm torn here... It's obvious that limiting, or highly regulating who can own and use a gun would have 'some effect' on how successful these mass shooters are, however, it's true that there are millions upon millions of gun owners (100+ million), many own AR-15s and the like. Even an assault weapons ban wouldn't take the already owned (around 100 million) assault weapons off the street... I don't know, high capacity mags suffer from the same problem, I know guys with dozens of them... If there was a rash of people making bombs from highly available home chemicals, would we outlaw draino? I have to admit, I have been passing around antigun statements and possible legislative moves on FB, but the other side is convincing me that there can be no law that impacts the scope of this problem, outside of amending the constitution, and that won't happen... I'm really being convinced that this IS a mental health issue, and not a fire arm issue. (Disclaimer: I have never even held a gun before, so I'm not an expert)

I'm just tired of people making general statements (like Mr. Jackson) and not focusing on policy and procedure. Even amending the Constitution is meaningless without a clear plan on how to implement the changes.

As the vast majority of mentally ill are not violent, the vast majority of firearms are not used in crime (violent or not).

It's a conundrum anyway you look at it. It will be interesting to see how Feinstein's bill is written.

4 Major Tom  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 2:09:02pm

"It's a conundrum anyway you look at it. It will be interesting to see how Feinstein's bill is written"

Does it even have a snowballs chance is what I'm interested in... a recent Pew poll, as I heard on NPR today, shows only slight movement in favor of more gun restrictions, and a plurality, it should be noted, not a majority. Even with this environment, the GOP controlled House may "stick to their guns," as it were... I wouldn't think that possible if it weren't for the extreme solidarity they have shown in the debt negotiations, the healthcare passage and their attempts to block it, and the proliferation of the Bengazi stories... It seems as if lately, in order to overcome their electoral weakness, they have shown their strength on every single issue that presents itself, as if every battle is for the future of the party and the nation as a whole... I can't see guns escaping this treatment. Even for the vilified (2 out of 3 people think they shouldn't be available) assault weapons and high cap mags.

5 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 7:08:41pm

Major Tom. I think it has a chance of passing, but it will be so convoluted it will be meaningless. A feel-good measure that will accomplish nothing, as usual.


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My best advice to anyone who wants to raise a happy, mentally healthy child is: Keep him or her as far away from a church as you can.