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1 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:29:21am

*face palm*

2 jaunte  Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:38:58am
"Publishing gun owners' names makes them targets for theft or public ridicule. It is journalistic arrogance to abuse public record privilege, just as it is to air 911 calls for no reason or to publish the home addresses of police or judges without cause," Al Tompkins, a Poynter senior faculty member, said in a statement Wednesday.

It was completely irresponsible of The Journal News to publish a goodies locator map for burglars.

“So should we start wearing yellow Stars of David so the general public can be aware of who we are??” one commenter wrote.

All the camo and "tactical" clothing probably works fine.

3 Randall Gross  Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:39:21am

I think it's a bit over the top for Newspapers to publish this, but it's public info just like your car registration and your house deed. I can understand gun owners being a bit upset, but... equating it to the holocaust is shameful, and they need to understand that their neighbors are concerned about handguns, rifles, and which neighbors they need to be worried about. After all, it's not the gun owners who are burying tiny coffins.

4 Destro  Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:59:32am

Gun owners = cry baby wussies.

5 I Am Kreniigh!  Wed, Dec 26, 2012 12:40:46pm

So, public knowledge that someone has a gun makes them less safe?

I thought gun-free zones made people into "sitting ducks" because it was public knowledge that no one there had a gun.

So you're in danger if people know you have a gun, or if people know you don't have one. If I felt that scared of the world, I'd probably want a gun too.

6 celticdragon  Wed, Dec 26, 2012 12:44:02pm

re: #4 Destro

Gun owners = cry baby wussies.

So you would be okay if the local paper published records from local venders on your expensive jewelry purchases?

Nothing like stunts like this to give local criminals a heads up on where to get stuff...like that asshole in NY state who seems to have stolen that rifle and shotgun he used to ambush the local firefighters.

Authorities said that they did not know where he got the weapons, but that there had been recent gun thefts in Monroe County, where Webster is. As a felon, Mr. Spengler was prohibited from owning guns.

7 celticdragon  Wed, Dec 26, 2012 12:45:30pm

re: #5 I Am Kreniigh!

So, public knowledge that someone has a gun makes them less safe?

Why would I want local criminals to know what I own and where I live?

8 I Am Kreniigh!  Wed, Dec 26, 2012 1:10:07pm

re: #7 celticdragon

Why would I want local criminals to know what I own and where I live?

That is a valid point. What the paper is doing feels a little... Assange to me.

Still, the idea that guns both attract and repel would-be criminals is puzzling. What if my house is on that registry but I put a "Gun-Free Zone" sign in my yard? How safe am I then?

9 Hawaii69  Wed, Dec 26, 2012 2:44:34pm

I have to file the actions of the newspaper under "NOT cool". It's one thing to place dots on a map to represent the approximate location of registered gun owners....but names and addresses? Give me your name and town you live in, and I can easily post your address, house valuation, tax bill, etc. online, but the fact that it's public information doesn't make it right for me to do so.

The Right leaning "Civil Beat" website in Hawaii posted the names, positions, and salaries of EVERY state worker a few years ago, when the villification of public workers had really hit a peak. Now, I can understand doing this with
the salaries of Department Heads & bigwigs....but is it really important for the public to know that Mr. Kimo Hanohano, Sewer Treatment Technician
II, makes $38,000 per year?

Position and salary is one thing, but names?

Those gun owners have every reason to be upset. It was an irresponsible use of public information which can lead to self proclaimed web activists
misusing that information to harrass these people.

10 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Dec 26, 2012 3:09:41pm

What the newspaper did was complete bullshit, but comparing it to the Holocaust is complete bullshit too.

11 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 26, 2012 3:15:32pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

What the newspaper did was complete bullshit, but comparing it to the Holocaust is complete bullshit too.

Quite Concur. The Nazi distributed the locations of Jewish businesses to target them for boycott and later attack, accompanying the information with inflammatory rhetoric designed to incite violence. The Journal News published the data on gun owners for informational purposes and did not incite its readers to do anything illegal. It's was still wrong, but multiple orders-of-magnitude less wrong than Hitler.

12 Destro  Wed, Dec 26, 2012 3:16:10pm

re: #6 celticdragon

Most gun permits are public knowledge. You have zero expectation on privacy if you have such a permit.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

From 2011

The Rich, the Famous, the Armed

13 celticdragon  Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:00:10pm

re: #12 Destro

Most gun permits are public knowledge. You have zero expectation on privacy if you have such a permit.

It actually takes a freedom of information request, as discussed earlier this afternoon on the main thread board. That means time, money etc for a determined researcher.

Now, any damned crook can see where he can score a rifle or a shotgun if the owners haven't gotten a safe (which is not on the report, btw). Even if they have, it is still an invitation to rob. Fuck that.

14 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:16:41pm
15 Aligarr  Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:59:11pm

Agreed , it is total bullshit .If it ain't against the law , it should be . Hows about listing all Porsche 911 owners and addresses .
Where was the "need to know " , that would justify releasing such information . Not to mention it was just a bit to sell newsprint .

16 Destro  Wed, Dec 26, 2012 10:26:13pm

re: #13 celticdragon

It actually takes a freedom of information request, as discussed earlier this afternoon on the main thread board. That means time, money etc for a determined researcher.

Bullshit.

Most laws operate like this one:

[Link: www.linnsheriff.org...]

Oregon laws consider concealed handgun license application information a public record. As a public record, anyone can make a request for the record without giving a reason for wanting the information.

Now, any damned crook can see where he can score a rifle or a shotgun if the owners haven't gotten a safe (which is not on the report, btw). Even if they have, it is still an invitation to rob. Fuck that.

I guess guns don't make you safe after all....

17 celticdragon  Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:52:53am

re: #16 Destro

It actually takes a freedom of information request, as discussed earlier this afternoon on the main thread board. That means time, money etc for a determined researcher.

Bullshit.

Most laws operate like this one:

[Link: www.linnsheriff.org...]

Oregon laws consider concealed handgun license application information a public record. As a public record, anyone can make a request for the record without giving a reason for wanting the information.

I guess guns don't make you safe after all....

Since I don't make a habit of carrying my deer rifle with me when I go to take my family to the movies, I certainly don't need idiots broadcasting to the world that a nice, accurate, potential "sniper rifle" is there for the taking any moment I leave the house.

Christ, you are obtuse about this.

18 Destro  Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:12:18pm

re: #17 celticdragon

Since I don't make a habit of carrying my deer rifle with me when I go to take my family to the movies, I certainly don't need idiots broadcasting to the world that a nice, accurate, potential "sniper rifle" is there for the taking any moment I leave the house.

Christ, you are obtuse about this.

Crooks are not looking to snag your deer rifle. They want your semi-auto assault rifle which they can sell to gang bangers, etc.


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