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1 Political Atheist  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:18:00pm

Not sure how you interpret “the NRA gun society”.

This incident flies in the face of the far and away most common scenario for CCW permitees. That would be no accidents and no incidents. Both of those are quite rare. Go ahead and total up the CCW permits and the CCW related accidents and misuses. Do the math and look at the rate of incident. Pretty darn low.

Just yesterday a friend in the jewelry biz was telling me about a recent incident he had at home. Two men broke into his house. My friend confronted them gun in hand as they approached his bedroom where his wife was sitting terrified on the phone with 911. One man ran out the other surrendered for arrest a short while later. Shots fired-0. Injuries-0 Arrests-1 for felony b & e with intent to do physical harm.
My friend has some training, knew enough to toss his keys out his window for the police to enter easily. The guys made enough noise forcing their way in there was time to get a gun out of a quick release gun safe.

The guy that surrendered was armed with a long piece of iron rebar.

2 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:21:22pm

Got a link?

3 Aligarr  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:04:24pm

Unfortunately many C&C permit holders think that it is legal to fire at a fleeing burglar or fire at a burglar[s] in a fleeing vehicle , only to find themselves arrested and charge with reckless endangerment . And just like this schmuck , attempt to use the “stand your ground ” law or self defense. Cops dont even shoot at fleeing vehicles unless there are special mitigating factors . Burglars and Shoplifters fleeing the scene are not one of them .

4 Political Atheist  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:19:56pm

re: #2 Amory Blaine

Got a link?

Was that to me? There is nothing to link to. Of course that story is an anecdote, so the appropriate limitations are offered & accepted.

5 Political Atheist  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:33:28pm

re: #3 Aligarr

Unfortunately many C&C permit holders think that it is legal to fire at a fleeing burglar or fire at a burglar[s] in a fleeing vehicle , only to find themselves arrested and charge with reckless endangerment . And just like this schmuck , attempt to use the “stand your ground ” law or self defense. Cops dont even shoot at fleeing vehicles unless there are special mitigating factors . Burglars and Shoplifters fleeing the scene are not one of them .

That would almost perfectly define the untrained. “Shall Issue” has got to include “Must pass use of force and safety tests”

I mean defensive training first day, first day, first effing minute-You do not ever take it to the alleged criminal. You GTFO or take cover, perhaps observe and then report as best you can. Pro Tip- shoot only if cornered, trapped or in incontrovertible defense of another human life.

6 Awea  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:44:00pm

re: #1 Political Atheist

What I meant by NRA’s gun society, is where everyone is armed, and the good guy shoots the bad guy.

And yes, currently this is not the common scenario, but I see it as a glimpse of the future of the NRA’s more guns is the solution to all of the problems.

7 Political Atheist  Thu, Feb 28, 2013 7:53:09pm

re: #6 Awea

The NRA seems beyond hope. So the work falls to the rest of us. The real world. Where at most (as far as I could find in a quick google) about 5% of the population gets a CCW. Where hopefully we can regulate standards of training for CCW to avoid exactly the kind of foolishness seen above. Cars, boats, planes, and serious equipment all has requirements. For all the right reasons.


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