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1 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2015 12:20:21pm

This is the second time today that I’ve seen climate science compared to GMO science.

2 CriticalDragon1177  Apr 24, 2015 12:34:05pm

re: #1 wrenchwench

Glad he’s no longer living in fear GMO food. If only more the anti GMO activists would put more their effort into fighting climate change instead. You shouldn’t oppose big business just for the sake of opposing big business, just as you shouldn’t oppose government just to oppose government, and climate change is a real issue.

3 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2015 12:39:08pm

re: #2 CriticalDragon1177

Glad he’s no longer living in fear GMO food. If only more the anti GMO activists would put more their effort into fighting climate change instead. You shouldn’t oppose big business just for the sake of opposing big business, just as you shouldn’t oppose government just to oppose government, and climate change is a real issue.

You can try to show people which way to go, but sometimes they get set in their route for unrealistic reasons.

4 CriticalDragon1177  Apr 24, 2015 12:45:42pm

re: #3 wrenchwench

That is true, unfortunately.

5 Great White Snark  Apr 24, 2015 1:54:22pm

re: #2 CriticalDragon1177

You shouldn’t oppose big business just for the sake of opposing big business, just as you shouldn’t oppose government just to oppose government, and climate change is a real issue.

Advocacy politics. SMH. Big biz is a natural enemy to some given sins real or imagined.

6 calochortus  Apr 24, 2015 2:31:36pm

I don’t think GMO food is dangerous in and of itself. What concerns me is things like “Round Up Ready” crops. It results in crops being doused repeatedly in glyphosate, which was not intended to be used in that sort of quantity-especially not on food plants. And, of course, in time evolution will bring us “Round Up Ready” weeds and a reasonably safe herbicide will become useless.

7 Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)  Apr 25, 2015 5:21:50am

re: #6 calochortus

I don’t think GMO food is dangerous in and of itself. What concerns me is things like “Round Up Ready” crops. It results in crops being doused repeatedly in glyphosate, which was not intended to be used in that sort of quantity-especially not on food plants. And, of course, in time evolution will bring us “Round Up Ready” weeds and a reasonably safe herbicide will become useless.

By putting it in the crops, it actually lowers the amount used, not raises it. So in this case, the GMO is addressing a problem that you see: weeds will evolve slower to combat round-up if it’s used in lower quantities.

8 EiMitch  Apr 25, 2015 7:01:18am

re: #6 calochortus

re: #7 Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)

You’re both wrong.

re: #7 Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)

By putting it in the crops, it actually lowers the amount used, not raises it. So in this case, the GMO is addressing a problem that you see: weeds will evolve slower to combat round-up if it’s used in lower quantities.

What? How? They’re not putting Round-Up itself into crop DNA. These crops aren’t killing surrounding weeds by themselves. What Monsanto did was splice a gene granting resistance to Round-Up into the crops. And the obvious point of doing that is to encourage farmers to use said herbicide more frequently, or to reassure those who otherwise wouldn’t use Round-Up that it won’t harm said crops. Either way, how does that lead to using less Round-Up?

re: #6 calochortus

I don’t think GMO food is dangerous in and of itself. What concerns me is things like “Round Up Ready” crops. It results in crops being doused repeatedly in glyphosate, which was not intended to be used in that sort of quantity-especially not on food plants. And, of course, in time evolution will bring us “Round Up Ready” weeds and a reasonably safe herbicide will become useless.

In time? It already happened! Did you think Monsanto got the Round-Up resistant gene from the ether?

9 calochortus  Apr 25, 2015 7:58:07am

re: #8 EiMitch

Yes, Obdi is wrong about that, and I suppose my language was less than precise as to the “Round Up Ready” weeds.
Yes, they had to have a gene to put into the crops, but it is currently very rare in nature. Increasing the amount of indiscriminate Round Up use will speed up the process of resistance and render Round Up useless far sooner than would otherwise happen. Sort of like using antibiotics for everything, all the time.

10 Sionainn  Apr 25, 2015 9:37:39am

I don’t have a fear of GMO foods and was glad to see that Daily Show piece. However, having seen what overuse of Roundup did to the reproductive cycle of small rodents in an area, that shit scares me.

11 EiMitch  Apr 25, 2015 10:58:57am

re: #9 calochortus

re: #10 Sionainn

Exactly. The biggest danger of GMOs isn’t poisonous “frankenfood” nor “genetic pollution” devastating the environment. Good regulations solves these problems easily. Instead, the biggest danger is the corporate and legal bs behind the scenes. Round-Up Ready GMOs are obviously an irresponsible, short-sighted cash-grab by Monsanto. Who cares about the effects of the pollution they might be held liable for in the future? Who cares that they’re hastening the day that Round-Up will cease to be a viable product? They’re making lots more money right now, and that’s the only thing which matters.


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