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CuriousLurker  Apr 19, 2016 • 4:43:41pm

I agree that the cost of living in New York (and even NJ) is much different than in places like Texas (or, presumably, Riverside—I’ve never been there an am unfamiliar with it).

At under $800 per month I have a really good deal on my apartment because it belongs to a friend’s sister (I pay about $100-$150 less than most other tenants in my building for the same size apartment). In NYC you can’t find a decent apartment for under $800, period (and I’m NOT talking about Manhattan where the rents there are insanely high).

We already have a nationwide, federally mandated minimum wage—it was part of the New Deal and has been in place since 1938, so I’m confused as to why you would see something we’ve already had for nearly 80 years as something one cannot “responsibly” argue in favor of.

If you don’t like the way the current system works, maybe we we have a federal minimum based on some sort of sliding scale calculation. For example: Figure out what the absolute base minimum living wage should be on the lower cost of living graph, then adjust accordingly as the cost of living rises.

IMO, the fact that some states have a minimum wage that’s less than the federally mandated $7.25/hr. is just absurd. Who can live on $7.25 an hour? Assuming a 40-hour work week, that would be $290 per week (or roughly $1200 per month) gross income. Take out federal (and in many cases state) income tax, health insurance, social security and how much will be left? I’m gonna guess well under $1000/mo. Now take out rent, utilities, food, clothing, transportation, etc. and you’ll quickly find yourself in the hole, even in the least expensive of places.

Whatever the case, we’re not going to solve the problem without a functioning Congress that can govern responsibly (which includes the dreaded compromise) instead of just obstructing, as the GOP has been doing for the past eight years (there’s no MBF “both sides do it” here). If they keep up their shenanigans they may very well lose control of Congress and the White House and fiscal conservatives will end up having zero say in the matter (and there will be no one to blame but the GOP).

In any event, I don’t want to see this country slide back to the pre-New Deal Gilded Age days of robber barons, child labor, and horrific working & living conditions for the poor. IMO, there has to be a federally mandated minimum standard because I sure as hell don’t trust the states to be fair after what I’ve seen in the past eight years.

A brief reminder of what things were like without federal labor mandates:

A young worker’s plea

While President Franklin Roosevelt was in Bedford, Mass., campaigning for reelection, a young girl tried to pass him an envelope. But a policeman threw her back into the crowd. Roosevelt told an aide, “Get the note from the girl.” Her note read,

I wish you could do something to help us girls….We have been working in a sewing factory,… and up to a few months ago we were getting our minimum pay of $11 a week… Today the 200 of us girls have been cut down to $4 and $5 and $6 a week.

To a reporter’s question, the President replied, “Something has to be done about the elimination of child labor and long hours and starvation wages.”

-FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT
Public Papers and Addresses, Vol. V
New York, Random House, 1936), pp. 624-25.

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Great White Snark  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:11:42pm

My point about responsibly argue for is that one can’t responsibly back a single number, simply for the reasons given. I put it that way, just a little strongly to challenge the usual mindset. One minimum wage for all places nationally. In no way is this an argument to get rid of the minimum wage as a concept, we just need to update it. Tiered like taxes, and frankly salaries.

Minimum wages would be the thing.


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