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Thanos  May 23, 2016 • 10:59:14am

The biggest security choice you can make is where you live.

CuriousLurker  May 23, 2016 • 11:32:15am

Great page, good info to have. Thanks.

Great White Snark  May 23, 2016 • 2:26:03pm

re: #1 Thanos

The biggest security choice you can make is where you live.

I knew someone would add a point I missed. Thanks.

ckkatz  May 23, 2016 • 2:35:58pm

Sorry to hear about the break-in. And very glad to hear that you and intruder parted company without confrontation.

Excellent write-up! I greatly appreciate your research and thoughts!

Your points on needing a plan, that self defense skills do fade when not constantly practiced, and on the fact that threats include the often more likely fire, flood and gas leaks, are very well taken. I also hear you on getting into fights with a younger intruder.

A few more thoughts on firearm considerations might include:

- Whether one would be willing to actually shoot another person. It isn’t always easy.

- What the backstop would be. I live in a wood frame and siding house. In certain fields of fire, my backstop would be my neighbor’s house. This is not good.

- Whether there are other family members who might be accidentally be mistaken for an intruder. Particularly at any random hour of the night and in any conditions, including when one is very groggy.

- Whether, if one actually shoots a person, what the cost, time, and stress of defending yourself in an investigation. It may be cheaper, particularly if one lives alone, and can leave safely, to just do so. The numbers I turned up some years ago were up to $35k-$50k legal costs and up to 2 years investigation for a no-bill. I am always willing to listen to more data points here.

Thanks for posting the article!

Grimalkin  May 23, 2016 • 6:38:51pm

I have also suffered a break in. They saw me leave to do errands and jumped my locked gate, broke in thru a my basement door. Then smashed the lock (not a good one) to get into the house proper. They worked quickly, going room to room, gathering all the valuables to staging areas, then out the door and over the fence. They were caught because my neighbor saw one of them jumping the fence. At that point I had been gone less then 2 hours. I was lucky, they were caught with everything and I got it all back. But my house was trashed top to bottom, every drawer, every cupboard, closet and under the beds, ransacked.

In my opinion an alert neighbor is wonderful. They say a barking dog is good and mine loves to bark. He did bark, part of what alerted my nieghbor, but in the end he just followed the guys around the house with his ball, trying to get them to play with him. Hey, he tried to get the police to throw it too.

It took me three weeks to leave my home again. I got a Samsung wifi security system. Sensors for all the doors, and couple of motion sensors, one that turns on a light when you enter the room, (that was for my convence) a two motion activated cameras that send the video to my cloud storage. I monitor it all myself on my phone. I know the instant a door is opened or motion is detected and can view the video any where in my house or world if I have a cellular signal. I also put the WiFi and the base station on a battery back up.

That and something in a book safe by the bed helps me sleep at night.

Why they didn’t just break one of the large windows on the side porch and step inside, I don’t know, but I’m glad they didn’t.

calochortus  May 24, 2016 • 12:17:42pm

Good information, but one more thing to think about: If the intruder is interested only in taking your stuff and getting out, you having a gun may make the situation more dangerous for you. If the intruder can just get the heck out and be gone he will do so, but if you both have guns, he may be quicker on the trigger than you are. He knows who you are, and doesn’t need to spend much time assessing the situation. You, on the other hand, have to decide if this is a burglar or a friend, family member, confused neighbor, whatever. You’ll likely be slower to shoot.
If you might have someone breaking in with intent to harm you, then you have a totally different situation.

We had someone break in years and years ago, while we were asleep, and take some stuff and I know one feels very violated. We rely on good insurance, properly backed up computers, and living in a pretty decent neighborhood (along with a lack of easily fenced possessions, but it could happen at any time. Such is life.

Great White Snark  May 24, 2016 • 1:24:25pm

re: #6 calochortus

That’s why an alarm or whatever system you choose top avoid getting surprised is critical. Plus I want to repeat the rule- Flee if you can, hide if you can’t flee fight if you can’t flee or hide. Surprise is lethal.

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