re: #1029 scogind

My, My … you post-graduates sure are sensitive. But I’m glad that you all agreed that “gene-manipulation” is not evolution, human or hog! I know intellectuals only need to hear one side of a conversation to form their responses, but could you try a little harder to read what a person is responding to before jumping their shit. It makes you sound a little more “educated” than all those big words do.

Of course gene manipulation is not evolution; it’s the only intelligent design for which we have any empirical evidence - because we are the intelligences doing the designing. But the fact that we CAN use this mechanism and make it work for us conclusively demonstrates that the genome is the means by which species change; what works is true, and genetic manipulation works to alter species. Environmental selection simply acts upon species much more slowly, because rather than splice in genetic changes, it simply applies selection pressures (temperature, moisture, parasites, diseases, food sources, niche competitors, predators, etc.) upon organisms possessing both the baseline species genomes and the genetic mutations that naturally occur.

You are not just willfully ignorant, but also perversely proud of the fact, and exhibit a bizarre form of reverse snob contempt for those who are less ignorant than you are. You remind me of the folks whom Chris Rock lampoons in this video:

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I just figured that if I wanted to converse with you, I had to knock on your door with the odious and the execrable, because it has become surpassingly clear that that is where you live.

re: #1019 Naso Tang

And that is what? Eat pork?

Yes, that too, but more importantly, we are here to prove our faith to God!

Tell that to the Hindus and the Pagans, who believe in multiple gods, or to the Buddhists and the Taoists and the Confucians, who don’t believe in any gods at all.

But you don’t think much of them, do you? You think they’re going straight to a Hell that they don’t even believe in, don’t you? What if one of their faiths is right, and yours is wrong? What if ALL of you are wrong? Or what if it is just your interpretation of the faith that is wrong? But then again, Biblical Literalists cannot admit that they’re interpreting, too. And the more nonsensical and absurd a Biblically literal contention is undeniably shown to be, the more conclusively it has been refuted and discredited, the prouder Biblical Literalists seem to be about loudly proclaiming that they believe in it anyway, in the face of irretrieveably falsifying counterfactual empirical evidence. It’s like they think that they get some sort of Cosmic brownie points for embracing the proven untrue, and thus appearing dim or unhinged to the more reasonable people around them. Case in point: YECers continuing to insanely and imbecilically insist that the universe, the earth, and all the many millions of its terrestrial species, both existent and extinct, were created independently and as is in the span of a few days a few thousand years ago.

More than a century ago, Friedrich Nietszche said that “faith is not wanting to know.” But it is worse than that now; religious fundamentalists these days actively want NOT to know, and campaign for others not to learn and know, either - because they fear the knowledge that contradicts their cherished beliefs, and dread the spread of such knowledge.

You are a prime example of such a person.