re: #98 Spare O’Lake

To be clear: Copenhagen was doomed when India and China gave the finger to the West, saying that the West had caused the AGW problem and so we could call them after we had at least 5 years of reductions under our belts and only then would they think about doing something so long as we paid for it.

Please note:

Climate Breakthrough: Obama and China Commit to Change.

Of course, if you get all your information from right wing blogs, you could easily miss this enormous breakthrough.