re: #106 Holidays are Family Fun Time

IIRC, the one in Arizona was-or was that an off-duty cop. There are some that a armed citizen has stopped the gunmen, but they don’t make the news. Another problem with the perception is that we don’t hear about instances in which the citizen stops the criminal. There is no box on the police report that is checked for citizens using firearms (or machetes) as self-defense, there IS one for firearms being used in crime.

So guess what data get’s sliced and diced and is included in crime stats?

we don’t have any way of knowing the truth.

The Giffords shooting in Arizona was almost made worse when a citizen almost decided to pull out his gun and shoot the guy who had taken Loughner’s gun away from Loughner. No off duty cop involved.