re: #141 William Lewis

She wasn’t soundly beaten by Obama 8 years ago. There’s a bit of revisionism there as well.

The ultimate delegate count was 2,272.5 to 1,978.* That wasn’t so close, but the popular vote tally was, and if Michigan was counted, Hillary would have had a higher popular vote tally there.

She learned the lesson, and when it came to the 2016 race, she had it won after Super Tuesday, but Bernie was last to know. Clinton crushed Bernie by every metric, states won, popular vote, delegates, supers, etc. On delegates: 2,842 to 1,865. On votes: 16,914,722 to 13,206,428.

Still, the Bernie or Busters persist in thinking that they’re the future of a party in which they were soundly beaten head-to-head with Clinton.

* Revising and extending my remarks here - the delegate count total figures in the superdelegates, but they went to Obama when the outcome was assured (excluding Michigan since they went outside the DNC order of primary dates). Without supers, the count was far closer - in fact, it was razor thin.

Obama had 1794.5 pledged delegates to Clinton’s 1732.5. It’s the super delegates that pushed Obama over the top.

By comparison, without supers, Hillary had… drumroll.. 2205 versus 1846 for Bernie. Not close.