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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2017 • 2:34:53pm

Had a hell of a time getting motivated to post something today, after the news about CL.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 14, 2017 • 2:40:19pm

So China seems to seriously be freaking out right now about the U.S. hitting NK or NK launching a strike. They are usually pretty reserved. That worries me.

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Weaselone  Apr 14, 2017 • 2:42:00pm

re: #2 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

So China seems to seriously be freaking out right now about the us hitting NK or NK launching a strike. They are usually pretty reserved. That worries me.

That’s because the Chinese government is sane.

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calochortus  Apr 14, 2017 • 2:42:19pm

re: #2 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

So China seems to seriously be freaking out right now about the us hitting NK or NK launching a strike. They are usually pretty reserved. That worries me.

So, is Trump going to try to bait N. Korea into attacking Seoul while Pence is there?

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 14, 2017 • 2:43:00pm

re: #3 Weaselone

I know. That’s why I am worried.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 14, 2017 • 2:43:21pm

re: #4 calochortus

Ya know, the thought crossed my mind.

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Skip Intro  Apr 14, 2017 • 2:44:09pm

re: #4 calochortus

So, is Trump going to try to bait N. Korea into attacking Seoul while Pence is there?

Did Pence bring his mother along or will he have to eat all his meals alone in a hotel room?

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retired cynic  Apr 14, 2017 • 2:44:13pm

re: #6 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Ya know, the thought crossed my mind.

If I was Pence, I’d come down with Chicken Pox.

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calochortus  Apr 14, 2017 • 2:47:58pm

re: #7 Skip Intro

Did Pence bring his mother along or will he have to eat all his meals alone in a hotel room?

He can always find some men to dine with, right?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2017 • 2:48:37pm

re: #2 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

So China seems to seriously be freaking out right now about the U.S. hitting NK or NK launching a strike. They are usually pretty reserved. That worries me.

President Xi Jinping got a close-up look at how unhinged and reckless Donald Trump is. Trump thought he was impressed, but I’ll bet he came away from that dinner with Trump deeply concerned.

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Skip Intro  Apr 14, 2017 • 2:50:57pm

re: #9 calochortus

He can always find some men to dine with, right?

He’d have to check with his mother about that.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 14, 2017 • 2:53:26pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Wouldn’t surprise me if that’s the case. I am sure trump tried to bully him and said he was gonna bomb NK if they tested a nuke.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2017 • 2:54:40pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 14, 2017 • 2:59:21pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

[Alt-right ringleader Mike Cernovich threatens to drop “motherlode” if his (likely source), Steve Bannon, is ousted]

Another floor-pooper?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 14, 2017 • 3:02:32pm

Sully still has his unhinged Hillary hatred dialed at 11….

Andrew Sullivan, NYMag: Why Do Democrats Feel Sorry for Hillary Clinton?

I’ve done what I could in this space to avoid the subject of Hillary Clinton. I don’t want to be the perennial turd in the punchbowl. I’d hoped we’d finally seen the last of that name in public life — it’s been a long quarter of a century — and that we could all move on. Alas, no. Her daughter (angels and ministers of grace defend us) seems to be positioning herself for a political career. And Clinton herself duly emerged last week for a fawning, rapturous reception at the Women in the World conference in New York City. It simply amazes me the hold this family still has on the Democratic Party — and on liberals in general. The most popular question that came from interviewer Nick Kristof’s social-media outreach, for example, was: “Are you doing okay?” Here’s Michelle Goldberg: “I find myself wondering at odd times of the day and night: How is Hillary? Is she going to be all right?” Seriously, can you imagine anyone wondering the same after Walter Mondale or Michael Dukakis or John Kerry blew elections?

And everywhere you see not an excoriation of one of the worst campaigns in recent history, leading to the Trump nightmare, but an attempt to blame anyone or anything but Clinton herself for the epic fail. It wasn’t Clinton’s fault, we’re told. It never is. It was the voters’ — those ungrateful, deplorable know-nothings! Their sexism defeated her (despite a majority of white women voting for Trump). A wave of misogyny defeated her (ditto). James Comey is to blame. Bernie Sanders’s campaign — because it highlighted her enmeshment with Wall Street, her brain-dead interventionism and her rapacious money-grubbing since she left the State Department — was the problem. Millennial feminists were guilty as well, for not seeing what an amazing crusader for their cause this candidate was. And this, of course, is how Clinton sees it as well: She wasn’t responsible for her own campaign — her staffers were. As a new book on her campaign notes, after Clinton lost the Michigan primary to Sanders, “The blame belonged to her campaign team, she believed, for failing to hone her message, energize important constituencies, and take care of business in getting voters to the polls.” So by the time the general-election campaign came round, they’d fix that and win Michigan, right?

Let us review the facts: Clinton had the backing of the entire Democratic establishment, including the president (his biggest mistake in eight years by far), and was even married to the last, popular Democratic president. As in 2008, when she managed to lose to a neophyte whose middle name was Hussein, everything was stacked in her favor. In fact, the Clintons so intimidated other potential candidates and donors, she had the nomination all but wrapped up before she even started. And yet she was so bad a candidate, she still only managed to squeak through in the primaries against an elderly, stopped-clock socialist who wasn’t even in her party, and who spent his honeymoon in the Soviet Union. She ran with a popular Democratic incumbent president in the White House in a growing economy. She had the extra allure of possibly breaking a glass ceiling that — with any other female candidate — would have been as inspiring as the election of the first black president. In the general election, she was running against a malevolent buffoon with no political experience, with a deeply divided party behind him, and whose negatives were stratospheric. She outspent him by almost two-to-one. Her convention was far more impressive than his. The demographics favored her. And yet she still managed to lose!

“But … but … but …” her deluded fans insist, “she won the popular vote!” But that’s precisely my point. Any candidate who can win the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes and still manage to lose the Electoral College by 304 to 227 is so profoundly incompetent, so miserably useless as a politician, she should be drummed out of the party under a welter of derision. Compare her electoral college result with Al Gore’s, who also won the popular vote but lost in the Electoral College: 271 to 266. For that matter, compare hers with John Kerry’s, who lost the popular vote by 1.5 percent — 286 to 241. She couldn’t even find a halfway-decent speechwriter for her convention speech. The week before the election, she was campaigning in Arizona, for Pete’s sake. And she took off chunks of the summer, fundraising (at one point, in the swing states of Fire Island and Provincetown). Whenever she gave a speech, you could hear the air sucking out of the room minutes after she started. In the middle of an election campaign, she dismissed half of the Republican voters as “deplorable.” She lost Wisconsin, which she didn’t visit once. I could go on.

And so I find myself wondering at odd times of the day and night: Why is Trump in the White House? And then I remember. Hillary Clinton put him there.

Fuck off, you Tory twit.

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Skip Intro  Apr 14, 2017 • 3:04:51pm

re: #15 Eric The Fruit Bat

I think she dismissed all the Republican voters as deplorable, and she was right.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 14, 2017 • 3:06:53pm

Be careful out there….

Ars Technica: NSA-leaking Shadow Brokers just dumped its most damaging release yet
Windows zero-days, SWIFT bank hacks, slick exploit loader among the contents.

The Shadow Brokers—the mysterious person or group that over the past eight months has leaked a gigabyte worth of the National Security Agency’s weaponized software exploits—just published its most significant release yet. Friday’s dump contains potent exploits and hacking tools that target most versions of Microsoft Windows and evidence of sophisticated hacks on the SWIFT banking system of several banks across the world.

Friday’s release—which came as much of the computing world was planning a long weekend to observe the Easter holiday—contains close to 300 megabytes of materials the leakers said were stolen from the NSA. The contents (a convenient overview is here) included compiled binaries for exploits that targeted vulnerabilities in a long line of Windows operating systems, including Windows 8 and Windows 2012. It also included a framework dubbed Fuzzbunch, a tool that resembles the Metasploit hacking framework that loads the binaries into targeted networks. Independent security experts who reviewed the contents said it was without question the most damaging Shadow Brokers release to date.
“It is by far the most powerful cache of exploits ever released,” Matthew Hickey, a security expert and co-founder of Hacker House, told Ars. “It is very significant as it effectively puts cyber weapons in the hands of anyone who downloads it. A number of these attacks appear to be 0-day exploits which have no patch and work completely from a remote network perspective.”

One of the Windows zero-days flagged by Hickey is dubbed Eternalblue. It exploits a remote code-execution bug in the latest version of Windows 2008 R2 using the server message block and NetBT protocols. Another hacking tool known as Eternalromance contains an easy-to-use interface and “slick” code. Hickey said it exploits Windows systems over TCP ports 445 and 139. The exact cause of the bug is still being identified. Friday’s release contains several tools with the word “eternal” in their name that exploit previously unknown flaws in Windows desktops and servers.

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b_sharp  Apr 14, 2017 • 3:12:18pm

re: #17 Eric The Fruit Bat

Be careful out there….

Ars Technica: NSA-leaking Shadow Brokers just dumped its most damaging release yet
Windows zero-days, SWIFT bank hacks, slick exploit loader among the contents.

Given the concern with outside hacking and alt-truth how do we know these exploits aren’t Russian or someone like that and not NSA?

It’s getting so you can’t even trust your friendly neighborhood whistle blowers.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 14, 2017 • 3:17:12pm

Just to let you good people know a bit more about Aminah and events related. I spoke at length to Chris who is Aminahs son, and with Heather who was her boss. They shared some details of events with me. Putting this here because, well private at this point. We don’t want haters having at this.

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Skip Intro  Apr 14, 2017 • 3:19:25pm

Make the Draft Great Again!

Late Monday night, when many Americans were in bed, President Donald Trump quietly announced his intention to nominate former Washington state senator Don Benton (R) to be director of the Selective Service System, which operates the nation’s military draft.

This was when the problems first came to light.

They started with a White House statement that lauded Benton’s environmental record, and the three years he spent leading the Environmental Services Department in Clark County, Washington.

From the White House:

During his tenure [Benton], reduced the cost of removing hazardous waste from the waste stream while doubling citizen participation and tripling the tonnage of hazardous waste removed. Mr. Benton was also responsible for Clark County certifying more Green Schools than in any other county in Washington State.

Of the 204 words in the announcement, there wasn’t one mention of the military, the draft, or anything related to what the Selective Service System actually does. Nor were there any references to qualifications or experiences that prepare Benton to manage the millions of records in the draft system, or the agency’s roughly $25 million budget.

It was as if the White House had written the statement for a completely different job than the one Benton was being given.

Turns out, that’s exactly what happened.

BTW, the nominee is a complete loon but he was an early Trumper so that doesn’t matter.

huffingtonpost.com

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bratwurst  Apr 14, 2017 • 3:20:06pm
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451_Montag  Apr 14, 2017 • 3:21:23pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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Probably a good time to start a “Trump is scared of sacking Bannon” whispering​ campaign?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 14, 2017 • 3:21:55pm

re: #18 b_sharp

emptywheel fills in some details:

The fact that SB provided that warning, though, should have very serious ramifications for the Vulnerabilities Equities Process, under which the NSA is supposed to consider whether it is better to alert companies to exploits or to sit on them and use them. It’s one thing to decide NSA’s spying takes precedence over the security of the customers of big American companies. It’s another thing to keep those exploits in a way that makes them vulnerable to theft, as both CIA and NSA have done.

But it should be beyond question that when an intelligence agency gets a very detailed list of a group of exploits a malicious entity plans to release, the agency should warn the American companies affected.

Ya think?

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CleverToad  Apr 14, 2017 • 3:25:15pm

re: #19 Unshaken Defiance

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 14, 2017 • 3:28:05pm

re: #19 Unshaken Defiance

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 14, 2017 • 3:28:29pm

You know your administration is hopelessly incompetent when you can’t figure out how to put on an Easter Egg Roll.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 14, 2017 • 3:29:23pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

President Xi Jinping got a close-up look at how unhinged and reckless Donald Trump is. Trump thought he was impressed, but I’ll bet he came away from that dinner with Trump deeply concerned.

Or more likely… thrilled that Trump can be so easily manipulated.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2017 • 3:52:10pm
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nines09  Apr 14, 2017 • 3:56:06pm

re: #19 Unshaken Defiance

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:00:37pm

re: #15 Eric The Fruit Bat

“She couldn’t even find a halfway-decent speechwriter for her convention speech.”

That’s a very odd criticism of Secretary Clinton — especially in light of Trump’s awful, angry, shouty convention speech.

What’s the sense of attacking Secretary Clinton anyways? What does the Democratic Party get out of doing that? We lost. Not because Secretary Clinton was a horrible candidate but most likely because of interference from Russia, voter suppression, a Trump-curious media, etc.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:02:05pm

re: #19 Unshaken Defiance

Thank you, RWC, for presenting a very nice eulogy and follow up info from her son and boss. CL was always a good read and a caring woman, she will be missed. She brought a great perspective to interfaith discussions and was thoughtful yet unyielding in her posts.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:05:22pm

re: #30 Patricia Kayden

“She couldn’t even find a halfway-decent speechwriter for her convention speech.”

That’s a very odd criticism of Secretary Clinton — especially in light of Trump’s awful, angry, shouty convention speech.

What’s the sense of attacking Secretary Clinton anyways? What does the Democratic Party get out of doing that? We lost. Not because Secretary Clinton was a horrible candidate but most likely because of interference from Russia, voter suppression, a Trump-curious media, etc.

Well Sully ain’t a Dem or even a liberal for one.

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gocart mozart  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:06:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:07:34pm

re: #19 Unshaken Defiance

Just to let you good people know a bit more about Aminah and events related. I spoke at length to Chris who is Aminahs son, and with Heather who was her boss. They shared some details of events with me. Putting this here because, well private at this point. We don’t want haters having at this.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:08:08pm

re: #28 Stanley Sea

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I think I saw a tweet by this man right before the election or right after when some alt-right asshole tried to get in his shit and he pointed out that he had fought actual fascists.

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gocart mozart  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:09:06pm
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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:13:20pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Had a hell of a time getting motivated to post something today, after the news about CL.

Yeah, I feel ya. I posted the bit on the fruitcakes turning on Trump now that it looks like they’re going to oust Bannon, but really, this kind of inside baseball shit seems so trivial now. Even though it’s not, and there are warning signs that the batshit crazies are having a fit because Trump isn’t destroying decency & kindness as quickly as they hoped he would, and …

Ah, whatever. Friday afternoon. Time to go out into my garden, put on some tunes, and listen to tunes.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:15:09pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

I think I saw a tweet by this man right before the election or right after when some alt-right asshole tried to get in his shit and he pointed out that he had fought actual fascists.

I just listened to both podcasts.

Worth it, waiting for the next.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:16:22pm

re: #38 Stanley Sea

I just listened to both podcasts.

Worth it, waiting for the next.

Yeah I’m going to tonight after baseball. Oral history is so important. There aren’t too many people like Mr. Smith left with us.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:21:20pm

I skipped the last day or so because I just can’t bring myself to think about C_L being gone. So I’m going to do what I do best and rage at random dumbfuckery instead.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:22:43pm

Test the fascist for roids & fire his ass now

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Timothy Watson  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:23:10pm

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

I skipped the last day or so because I just can’t bring myself to think about C_L being gone. So I’m going to do what I do best and rage at random dumbfuckery instead.

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So the “anti-corporate power” zeitgeist elected a lifelong CEO?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:23:58pm

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

I skipped the last day or so because I just can’t bring myself to think about C_L being gone. So I’m going to do what I do best and rage at random dumbfuckery instead.

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Well these are the same people who use hypothetical polls to proclaim boldly that BERNIE WOLD HAVE WON. Even though you know those same polls had Clinton winning too.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:24:38pm

re: #42 Timothy Watson

So the “anti-corporate power” zeitgeist elected a lifelong CEO?

Yeah that too.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:26:08pm

re: #41 Stanley Sea

Test the fascist for roids & fire his ass now

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A Mom Anon  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:30:34pm

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:31:08pm

re: #45 Ace Rothstein

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:31:40pm

re: #46 A Mom Anon

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:32:47pm

Damn it. This place will not be the same without dear Aminah.

Well, here’s some funny ski stuff.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:32:50pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

Well these are the same people who use hypothetical polls to proclaim boldly that BERNIE WOLD HAVE WON. Even though you know those same polls had Clinton winning too.

And you cannot reason with those people. They believe their polls and assure you that you are deluding yourself when you don’t accept their knowledge. They are right about their polls and you are wrong about your polls.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:36:00pm

re: #50 Hecuba’s daughter

And you cannot reason with those people. They believe their polls and assure you that you are deluding yourself when you don’t accept their knowledge. They are right about their polls and you are wrong about your polls.

No, you can’t. I mean I don’t even say that Bernie definitely would have lost but I do tell them that the polls were done before any RNC/right wing attacks on Sanders would have been done. TBH, I don’t even feel Bernie would have made a good President and I really think that says something. Not trying to toot my own horn but I’m saying that I had doubts about Bernie’s ability to be a President, I think many other voters far more center minded than I am would have had even more.

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prairiefire  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:36:24pm

Oh my goodness, terrible news!

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:37:07pm

re: #41 Stanley Sea

Test the fascist for roids & fire his ass now

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I think he was already fired. At least I think he was…saw where two incidents of police abuse led to the cops being immediately fired and I think that was one of them.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:37:53pm
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Timothy Watson  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:38:07pm

re: #53 ObserverArt

I think he was already fired. At least I think he was…saw where two incidents of police abuse led to the cops being immediately fired and I think that was one of them.

He should have been charged criminally already.

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:38:11pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Where’s the popcorn. This witless wonder thinks that firing Bannon will unleash the Kraken?

There’s so much bad crazy with this Administration that reports of Trump viewing golden showers are the least bad thing it’s got going.

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prairiefire  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:38:49pm

What a beautiful name, it means “honest, faithful.” Tears

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Interesting Times  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:39:13pm

re: #42 Timothy Watson

So the “anti-corporate power” zeitgeist elected a lifelong CEO?

herp derp durr hurr blue-collar billionaire!!!11!

Seriously though, I think most of those arguments are blaming HRC for depressed turnout on the left. Blatantly racist dumbfuckery and anti-Semitic dog-whistling is sufficient for being considered “anti-establishment” on the GOPer side, but to earn that label as a Democrat, you have to…be an independent socialist? o_O

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:41:00pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:41:56pm

re: #56 lawhawk

There’s so much bad crazy with this Administration that reports of Trump viewing golden showers are the least bad thing it’s got going.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:42:59pm

re: #59 lawhawk

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Dropping a single overpriced bomb on ISIS-K in Afghanistan managed to defeat ISIS in Syria/Iraq?

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jaunte  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:44:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:45:33pm

re: #58 Interesting Times

herp derp durr hurr blue-collar billionaire!!!11!

Seriously though, I think most of those arguments are blaming HRC for depressed turnout on the left. Blatantly racist dumbfuckery and anti-Semitic dog-whistling is sufficient for being considered “anti-establishment” on the GOPer side, but to earn that label as a Democrat, you have to…be an independent socialist? o_O

What I really resent is when they say that Sanders who until very recently had never even campaigned for other Democrats was more of a Democrat than HRC was. Not to mention they were willing to overlook certain parts of Sanders record that they would have pounced on if HRC had them in hers. And no I’m not talking about his record with guns. I’m talking about his dirty little secret, his immigration record that earned him praise from Steve King no less.

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:45:57pm

You know, I think Amirah would be sincerely touched by the outpouring of grief and sadness by the group here. And without being presumptuous, I also think that she’d tell us to do better - be better by focusing the grief and sadness on to things we can do.

I think she’d like that.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:48:04pm

re: #61 Timothy Watson

Dropping a single overpriced bomb on ISIS-K in Afghanistan managed to defeat ISIS in Syria/Iraq?

It’s also worth noting that ISIS-K had claimed responsibility for terrorist attacks in Afghanistan and Pakistan which have killed at least 165 people since Trump was inaugurated.

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:49:23pm

re: #63 HappyWarrior

What I really resent is when they say that Sanders who until very recently had never even campaigned for other Democrats was more of a Democrat than HRC was. Not to mention they were willing to overlook certain parts of Sanders record that they would have pounced on if HRC had them in hers. And no I’m not talking about his record with guns. I’m talking about his dirty little secret, his immigration record that earned him praise from Steve King no less.

You mean the immigration record that means nothing to a Sanders supporter. It was all white working class with most of them.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:49:43pm

re: #63 HappyWarrior

What I really resent is when they say that Sanders who until very recently had never even campaigned for other Democrats was more of a Democrat than HRC was. Not to mention they were willing to overlook certain parts of Sanders record that they would have pounced on if HRC had them in hers. And no I’m not talking about his record with guns. I’m talking about his dirty little secret, his immigration record that earned him praise from Steve King no less.

Or wanting to dump Vermont’s nuclear waste next to brown people in Texas.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:49:49pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:49:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:50:51pm

re: #66 ObserverArt

You mean the immigration record that means nothing to a Sanders supporter. It was all white working class with most of them.

That’s another thing. They shat on the base of our party in favor of a demographic who ran away from our party once our party became more inclusive towards everyone. I’m sorry but a 75 year old Senator from a 96% white state would be a terrible representative of our party. I hate to bring his age into it but it’s true.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:51:27pm

re: #67 Timothy Watson

Or wanting to dump Vermont’s nuclear waste next to brown people in Texas.

He not only wanted to, he co-sponsored the legislation I believe.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:51:39pm

re: #58 Interesting Times

herp derp durr hurr blue-collar billionaire!!!11!

Seriously though, I think most of those arguments are blaming HRC for depressed turnout on the left. Blatantly racist dumbfuckery and anti-Semitic dog-whistling is sufficient for being considered “anti-establishment” on the GOPer side, but to earn that label as a Democrat, you have to…be an independent socialist? o_O

If the die hard Bernie bros actually voted for her, she may indeed have won. But many of those still believe she would be worse than Trump or that there was no difference between them. See Susan Sarandon.

The Electoral College will be the death of this country.

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Skip Intro  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:51:51pm

re: #42 Timothy Watson

So the “anti-corporate power” zeitgeist elected a lifelong CEO?

Don’t even try to understand them. On that path lies madness.

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gocart mozart  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:53:00pm

I LOLed

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Skip Intro  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:53:00pm

re: #62 jaunte

And vacations and golf. Lots of vacations and golf.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:53:07pm

Thing is. It’d really be one thing if they acknowledged he had imperfections but no it was BERNIE MARCHED WITH MLK AND IS THE ONLY REAL PROGRESSIVE. Fuck that shit man.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:53:31pm

re: #72 Hecuba’s daughter

If the die hard Bernie bros actually voted for her, she may indeed have won. But many of those still believe she would be worse than Trump or that there was no difference between them. See Susan Sarandon.

The Electoral College will be the death of this country.

ELECT TRUMP AND WE’LL GET OUR REVOLUTION!!1!

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A Cranky One  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:56:23pm

Fuck.

Been very sad about Aminah/CL and decided to look for her last reply to me. Since I’ve primarily lurked since the election it was last year.

Shouldn’t have looked. Too ironic.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:57:47pm

Frankly the other thing is I don’t think Sanders is the kind of person you want as a leader. I think good leaders are willing to listen to many arguments. I think Sanders has his heart and mind set on what he wants done and I guess I get why some might find that admirable but frankly I find that attitude unhelpful in a leader especially one that would likely be dealing with a Republican majority in one of the two Houses in Congress. I also think Clinton would have been much more smart about finding ways to get change longer lasting. I think Sanders would have been frustrated with Republican obstruction and implemented EOs that would have either been reversed by the next GOP President or overturned by judges. I’m not saying I think Sanders is unintelligent but temperament wise, I don’t think he’s as wise as Obama, Clinton, and Biden.

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gocart mozart  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:58:35pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

Fine, you caught me. I stole a joke from twitter. Sue me!!!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 4:58:42pm

re: #78 A Cranky One

Fuck.

Been very sad about Aminah/CL and decided to look for her last reply to me. Since I’ve primarily lurked since the election it was last year.

Shouldn’t have looked. Too ironic.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Makes me wonder about mine. Sigh, she was such a nice person. I know it’s part of life but it doesn’t make it any easier.

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b_sharp  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:04:22pm

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

Do what you do so well.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:05:27pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:06:53pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:09:17pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:12:19pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

Well Sully ain’t a Dem or even a liberal for one.

Nope-SUlly is an ex-pat Tory twat who think he understands how our political process operates. That’s all you need to know.

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Interesting Times  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:12:53pm

re: #41 Stanley Sea

Question -

jKdgZ0S2+K9QXaL4S4rH0Uh8z0Glisg83hcEXKFvcbzSTUfpwbmpZV3Hi1zsfM/fhNateI+NYnG+PsOfEg6B8KdC4Ufpja7jtjUxE5Qz2xeKhTP9+S5HmnVkjJN5VmrOjPQybYSMEDoYT3s+DnESmS1QxLKXCy1QBkYNoHpJfHhfqgyEZOgwB5PgNNKIEXb+rxlGJR8y/r6oEN484OT4qQc2yk/r09rWWGDCeBdOLcEghpWmz5N0oQMPNnPX22wvDLvdzrmzBC6aZWUE9zbQlQZuLHM0vMCDu/7VLQ76gIaV1rTfbPl8f5fsDaiswo5h

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:14:00pm

Rooting around LGF brings up the fact that everywhere you look, there’s signs Amirah was here. Like her stamp left on the LGF User Guide.

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BeachDem  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:15:08pm

re: #59 lawhawk

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When did yam jr. become the CENTCOM spokesman?

“We mean business,” the spokesman said. “President Trump said prior that once he gets in he’s going to kick the S-H-I-T out of the enemy. That was his promise and that’s exactly what we’re doing.”

“It’s empowering the commanders and winning the war against the bad guys,” the spokesman added.

rawstory.com

Sorry, but this spokesman seems like a total trumper.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:15:14pm

re: #88 lawhawk

Rooting around LGF brings up the fact that everywhere you look, there’s signs Amirah was here. Like her stamp left on the LGF User Guide.

I remember she also did a database on all the candidates for president this past year.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:17:03pm

re: #87 Interesting Times

cLbjtXMYoSWeCL/39vWyqHwRIsOPxeJtUDC2d239d++slazL+6+vv/fmYCEghid+hdwZshxC3SM6y1oN7xYPg3qc14F92tG8l7j9h8ypLOu23EfORQ4VmA==

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:17:13pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:18:04pm

Good thread on asset forfeiture.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:18:14pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Had a hell of a time getting motivated to post something today, after the news about CL.

I’m in denial.

When faced with information I am not ready to process I do busy work. I think it’s obvious by the number of Pages Posts I’ve done.

Somehow it’s easier to process possible impending nuclear war than it is to accept the loss of CL.

:(

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:19:04pm

VOCABULARY WORD OF THE DAY

pas*tiche
paˈstēSH,päˈstēSH/Submit
noun
1.
an artistic work in a style that imitates that of another work, artist, or period.
“the operetta is a pastiche of 18th century styles”
synonyms: imitation, parody; informaltakeoff
“a pastiche of eighteenth-century style”
verb
1.
imitate the style of (an artist or work).
“Gauguin took himself to a Pacific island and pastiched the primitive art he found there”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:22:22pm

CL would also help me calm down Ziggy when he would generalize certain groups. She had Islam in common with Ziggy whereas I had AS in common with him.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:22:31pm
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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:26:03pm

re: #56 lawhawk

Where’s the popcorn. This witless wonder thinks that firing Bannon will unleash the Kraken?

There’s so much bad crazy with this Administration that reports of Trump viewing golden showers are the least bad thing it’s got going.

speaking of Kracken —did you see this.
Octopuses Rewrite Their RNA to Beat the Cold

Now, really, could anything but a god do this?

:)

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Varek Raith  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:29:05pm

Hello.

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:30:10pm

re: #99 Birth Control Works

That’s seriously cool. It’s the kind of thing that might have application elsewhere, like designing bacteria to clean up hazardous materials or heavy metals. Or immunotherapies that can eliminate cancer.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:32:25pm

#flyDelta

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gocart mozart  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:34:42pm

This is sweet music

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:35:39pm

The American Government’s Secret Plan for Surviving the End of the World

Foreign Policy —has firewall. I’ve gotten so much useful info from them, I decided to spend the $7.99/mo.

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Interesting Times  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:37:35pm

re: #102 Stanley Sea

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:40:02pm

Go to the beginning of this thread.

It is all correct.

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:40:15pm

re: #103 gocart mozart

This is sweet music

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Yeah it was. I posted an Arizona TV station YouTube video that summed up the Jeff Flake town hall.

Of course, one of the Trump lovers tried to blame it on sore loser Democrats that are whiners.

I have no way of knowing, but I bet Flake tried to get as many Republican supporters of his in there knowing how all these town halls have been going.

So go on and think it is sore loser protesters…maybe a bit of over confidence will help in a year and a half.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:42:06pm

re: #86 Eric The Fruit Bat

Nope-SUlly is an ex-pat Tory twat who think he understands how our political process operates. That’s all you need to know.

Although I enjoyed his blog, I never forgave him for his support of Charles Murray or his over-the-top antipathy to Hillary. At one time Eric Alterman had a blog which I read religiously. He absolutely detested Sullivan for his venom toward those who disagreed with Bush during the war and he never forgave him. On that issue, Sulliven clearly repented. I didn’t read LGF in those days but I suspect the viewpoints were similarly hostile toward those who objected to the war.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:42:07pm

Shane McConkey would be proud.

NSFW

newschoolers.com

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:43:32pm

re: #104 Birth Control Works

By the time Jimmy Carter became president, the country was spending less than $100 million a year on civil defense, compared with more than $30 billion a year to keep its nuclear weapons from becoming obsolete. Congress had identified the value of a unified civil defense program but hadn’t done much to fund it. Carter became the first president since John F. Kennedy to pay significant attention. In September 1978, he declared that civil defense was part of the country’s strategic deterrence, because a population, or government, vulnerable to nuclear attack was more vulnerable to being coerced by threats of an attack. A short presidential decision directive, which was classified at the time, said as much — and little else.

Basically, if we still have a functioning government and any civilians to govern after Nuclear Holocaust, we can thank Jimmy Carter.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:46:19pm

re: #106 Stanley Sea

Go to the beginning of this thread.

It is all correct.

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And the reality is that it is the women who are in the best position to tell. Wives, daughters, mothers, sisters, co-workers, employees —they know what kind of man he is.

Men act their worse with women, assuming she is a safe place. Which is all too often proven true as domestic abusers know too well.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:46:32pm

This is me, poking a stick into the hornet’s nest again.

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weave  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:47:24pm

re: #102 Stanley Sea

Wait — that can’t be true. I’ve been reading on wingnut sites that the evil government has made a law that airlines can’t go above $1350 and hence the gummit created this problem.

(since they can’t figure out the difference between involuntary bumping payment and voluntary arrangements)

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BlueGrl21  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:48:00pm

For those of you who are our space explorers, saw “Mission Control.” Great movie if it’s near you.

Mission Control Movie

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BlueGrl21  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:51:41pm

re: #112 Charles Johnson

This is me, poking a stick into the hornet’s nest again.

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He’s always had an irrational hatred of the Clintons. It’s why I stopped reading him 4 years ago. That and his general dislike of most women.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:55:39pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:57:00pm

I think we’ve found the opposite of clickbait.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 5:57:07pm
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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:00:56pm

The kid needs people to take this survey for his branch of the American Marketing Association.

If you are inclined, please take it and share it with others. They are trying to get the largest possible sampling.

much appreciated!

xoxoxo

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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:01:18pm

Countdown to the first angry tweet from a Bernie diehard calling me a “hillbot.”

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:02:25pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:04:01pm
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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:05:33pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:07:45pm

re: #121 Birth Control Works

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Missed this. Thank you—this is great!

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:08:35pm

Pitbulls in Pajamas

Still, my fav happy pic

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:09:16pm

re: #124 Barefoot Grin

Missed this. Thank you—this is great!

I love this stuff. Science is so freaking kewl!

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:09:26pm

re: #119 Birth Control Works

Done!

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:09:53pm

re: #127 lawhawk

Done!

you are so kewl!

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A Cranky One  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:11:24pm

re: #119 Birth Control Works

Done.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:11:38pm
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FormerDirtDart  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:12:35pm

re: #125 Birth Control Works

Still, my fav happy pic

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BeachDem  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:13:19pm

This makes me sick to my stomach:

Provo, Utah — (KUTV) — Fourth District Court Judge Thomas Low had glowing praise for a man who was convicted of molesting two female relatives while they stayed at his home three years ago.

“The court had no doubt that Mr. Vallejo is an extraordinarily good man,” Low said just moments before sentencing Keith Vallejo to prison for sexually abusing the two females. “But great men, sometimes do bad things,” Low continued.

kutv.com

Yep. He’s an extraordinarily good—nay, GREAT man, who just happens to be a fucking abuser and rapist.

Ugh—I need to go watch some mindless tv and drink some wine.

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Interesting Times  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:13:36pm

re: #106 Stanley Sea

Go to the beginning of this thread.

It is all correct.

There was an article which I can’t for the life of me find right now, but it had a fascinating (and sadly accurate) thesis - voters who were terrified at the prospect of trump winning paradoxically blamed HRC for not doing/being enough to assuage their fears. (I wish I could remember the keywords to find it again, but it had to do with sexism as well - something to the effect of HRC as maternal figure and seen as failing to provide adequate comfort)

So maybe we’re seeing a similar dynamic play out now - instead of recognizing HRC’s warnings as being true, even people who voted for her are blaming her for not doing enough to stop trump (to be fair, there *is* merit in some of the complaints, as our own Decatur Deb confirmed. Myself, I’m tempted to blame Robby Mook, because how the fuck did he NOT see that as a problem?? Or this??? And I’ve had acquaintances - even one who wasn’t a BoB - tell me things like, “the Democratic party’s arrogance and incompetence gave us trump” :/ )

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:14:27pm

This Is The World’s Only Giraffe Hotel

There is a new addition to my bucket list.

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:16:32pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

Just had to block one of them, who thought that Bernie was the future of the Democrats, and that his message on civil/voting rights was a winning one. Considering that he got crushed everywhere people whose civil/voting rights are most under assault (aka minorities all over the nation), that doesn’t pass the smell test.

But for him to claim that he won the states where Trump won makes no sense, and is more fact free BS dumbassery we’ve come to expect from the dead-end Bernie bros who still think that outsiders should impose their views and policies on the DNC.

Bernie still isn’t a member of the party. Neither are many of his supporters.

That, in a nutshell, is the Bernie issue. He used the Democrats to run a national campaign instead of launching an independent party bid; used the apparatus instead of creating his own (and got caught at one point improperly using DNC lists), and now thinks he’s running thing. Nothing chafes long time (or lifer) Democrats than someone infiltrating the party and calling shots they have no business ever being allowed to.

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Varek Raith  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:20:16pm
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Decatur Deb  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:21:26pm

re: #133 Interesting Times

There was an article which I can’t for the life of me find right now, but it had a fascinating (and sadly accurate) thesis - voters who were terrified at the prospect of trump winning paradoxically blamed HRC for not doing/being enough to assuage their fears. (I wish I could remember the keywords to find it again, but it had to do with sexism as well - something to the effect of HRC as maternal figure and seen as failing to provide adequate comfort)

So maybe we’re seeing a similar dynamic play out now - instead of recognizing HRC’s warnings as being true, even people who voted for her are blaming her for not doing enough to stop trump (to be fair, there *is* merit in some of the complaints, as our own Decatur Deb confirmed. Myself, I’m tempted to blame Robby Mook, because how the fuck did he NOT see that as a problem?? Or this??? And I’ve had acquaintances - even one who wasn’t a BoB - tell me things like, “the Democratic party’s arrogance and incompetence gave us trump” :/ )

HRC was an excellent candidate, absurdly well-qualified . She was a mediocre campaigner, and that has to happen first.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:22:29pm

re: #126 Birth Control Works

I love this stuff. Science is so freaking kewl!

We talk in class about how the Shang Dynasty is the oldest proven dynasty in China, but that ancient Chinese, and most notably the historian Sima Qian, held that there was a more ancient dynasty called the Xia. I tell my students that the Shang was a mythical dynasty until the late 19th century when evidence was found and that I fully expect evidence of the Xia to be found some day.

The importance of a find from 14,000 years ago with such riches can’t be exaggerated, I think. So much of the human record is missing, but I like that they emphasize the importance of giving credence to the oral histories.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:24:37pm

re: #137 Decatur Deb

HRC was an excellent candidate, absurdly well-qualified . She was a mediocre campaigner, and that has to happen first.

That’s why she won by 3 million. They/we knew it. Andrew Sullivan, as others have said, just got his biases confirmed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:25:26pm

just had a visitor in the front yard:

baby red eft
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William Lewis  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:25:38pm

re: #137 Decatur Deb

HRC was an excellent candidate, absurdly well-qualified . She was a mediocre campaigner, and that has to happen first.

This was always the case and why she was soundly beaten by Obama 8 years earlier. The only reason she won the primaries this last time was the fact that Bernie was even F’n worse as a campaigner, though the Bros refuse to admit that and scream their conspiracy theories instead.

This socialist wants someone who can run a freaking campaign next time even if it’s a blue dog.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:25:50pm

re: #139 Barefoot Grin

That’s why she won by 3 million. They/we knew it. Andrew Sullivan, as others have said, just got his biases confirmed.

A good campaign would have put those 3 million votes in the right states.

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:25:59pm

re: #137 Decatur Deb

Even the mediocre campaigner bit is hard to square with the fact that she got the popular vote by more than 3 million people.

You don’t get that many votes by being a mediocre candidate.

She crushed the so called populist Bernie in the primaries handily.

There was a concerted effort to kneecap her at every turn, and just enough people in a handful of states threw their lot with Trump or 3d party candidates to give Trump the win in the EC.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:26:22pm

re: #142 Decatur Deb

A good campaign would have put those 3 million votes in the right states.

That’s true.

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gocart mozart  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:26:55pm
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Varek Raith  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:29:33pm

re: #145 gocart mozart

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Sure does like his military porn.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:29:46pm
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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:31:15pm

re: #141 William Lewis

She wasn’t soundly beaten by Obama 8 years ago. There’s a bit of revisionism there as well.

The ultimate delegate count was 2,272.5 to 1,978.* That wasn’t so close, but the popular vote tally was, and if Michigan was counted, Hillary would have had a higher popular vote tally there.

She learned the lesson, and when it came to the 2016 race, she had it won after Super Tuesday, but Bernie was last to know. Clinton crushed Bernie by every metric, states won, popular vote, delegates, supers, etc. On delegates: 2,842 to 1,865. On votes: 16,914,722 to 13,206,428.

Still, the Bernie or Busters persist in thinking that they’re the future of a party in which they were soundly beaten head-to-head with Clinton.

* Revising and extending my remarks here - the delegate count total figures in the superdelegates, but they went to Obama when the outcome was assured (excluding Michigan since they went outside the DNC order of primary dates). Without supers, the count was far closer - in fact, it was razor thin.

Obama had 1794.5 pledged delegates to Clinton’s 1732.5. It’s the super delegates that pushed Obama over the top.

By comparison, without supers, Hillary had… drumroll.. 2205 versus 1846 for Bernie. Not close.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:32:57pm

re: #119 Birth Control Works

The kid needs people to take this survey for his branch of the American Marketing Association.

If you are inclined, please take it and share it with others. They are trying to get the largest possible sampling.

much appreciated!

xoxoxo

Done

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:33:45pm

re: #142 Decatur Deb

A good campaign can’t necessarily overcome a ratfucking job by the FBI to push a bogus story days before the election that all but hands the win to a complete incompetent ignoramus who’s a puppet for our nation’s rival.

Looking at how polling results shifted over the final two weeks showed just how effective the FBI letter was in throwing the election.

I don’t think anyone in our nation’s history has ever encountered something like that.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:35:08pm

re: #148 lawhawk

She wasn’t soundly beaten by Obama 8 years ago. There’s a bit of revisionism there as well.

The ultimate delegate count was 2,272.5 to 1,978. That wasn’t so close, but the popular vote tally was, and if Michigan was counted, Hillary would have had a higher popular vote tally there.

She learned the lesson, and when it came to the 2016 race, she had it won after Super Tuesday, but Bernie was last to know. Clinton crushed Bernie by every metric, states won, popular vote, delegates, supers, etc. On delegates: 2,842 to 1,865. On votes: 16,914,722 to 13,206,428.

Still, the Bernie or Busters persist in thinking that they’re the future of a party in which they were soundly beaten head-to-head with Clinton.

Maybe crushing blue-on-blue isn’t the sure path to the WH. If we are to get rid of Trump in 4 years we need every shade, age, accent, plumbing, and class of Democrat we can mobilize.

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William Lewis  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:37:50pm

re: #119 Birth Control Works

done, from the dairy state ;)

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:38:02pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

Some further listening for MrBWS after his amazeballs reaction to my post last night on CL’s remembrance post: Nursat Fateh Ali Khan’s most popular album, “Mustt Mustt”.

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Interesting Times  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:38:43pm

re: #151 Decatur Deb

Maybe crushing blue-on-blue isn’t the sure path to the WH. If we are to get rid of Trump in 4 years we need every shade, age, accent, plumbing, and class of Democrat we can mobilize.

What do you think of this? How much truth to the overall premise?

Given our current political climate, you’d think the Democrats would have jumped at the chance to take back a Congressional seat and demonstrate opposition to Trump, but you’d be wrong. While Thompson managed to raise $292,000 without his party’s help, 95% of which came from individuals, neither the DNC, DCCC, nor even the Kansas Democratic Party would help him grow that total in any substantial way. His campaign requested $20,000 from the state Democratic Party and was denied.

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:39:53pm

re: #119 Birth Control Works

The kid needs people to take this survey for his branch of the American Marketing Association.

If you are inclined, please take it and share it with others. They are trying to get the largest possible sampling.

much appreciated!

xoxoxo

I took the survey. I think a couple of the question could have used a “not sure” type answer instead of yes or no. Some of the decisions one must make have a lot of different reasons for their choice.

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:40:13pm

re: #145 gocart mozart

Abramson was busy claiming earlier that there was mass evacuations from Pyongyang.

Now, there’s video showing military parades and Thriller-style dance routines by the soldiers. Woo.

Dictators love themselves military spectacles.

He deleted the underlying tweet where he claimed evacuations were underway. That was a tweet based on bogus claims routed through Pravda and some bullshit website claiming to be a radio station in NYC that doesn’t exist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:41:54pm

re: #132 BeachDem

Ugh—I need to go watch some mindless tv and drink some wine.

We’re watching Guardians of the Galaxay on FX right now.
It’s a good remedy for the last few days.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:42:34pm

re: #154 Interesting Times

What do you think of this? How much truth to the overall premise?

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Article sounds like it’s looking at incompetence and seeing conspiracy. There is no Dem master plan I can even find right now, except whining. The Alabama Dems treat any new face that way.

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:43:43pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rocket Raccoon: Why would you want to save the galaxy?
Peter Quill: Because I’m one of the idiots who lives in it!

Great. We’re all standing up now. A bunch of jackasses standing in a circle.

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b_sharp  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:44:32pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

We’re watching Guardians of the Galaxay on FX right now.
It’s a good remedy for the last few days.

Just the right mix of humour & action.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:45:58pm

re: #138 Barefoot Grin

We talk in class about how the Shang Dynasty is the oldest proven dynasty in China, but that ancient Chinese, and most notably the historian Sima Qian, held that there was a more ancient dynasty called the Xia. I tell my students that the Shang was a mythical dynasty until the late 19th century when evidence was found and that I fully expect evidence of the Xia to be found some day.

The importance of a find from 14,000 years ago with such riches can’t be exaggerated, I think. So much of the human record is missing, but I like that they emphasize the importance of giving credence to the oral histories.

My favorite example is the City of Troy —thought to be Myth for centuries, until an archaeologist/treasure hunter found it. Same with the clay soldiers in China!

I have hopes for Atlantis.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:47:07pm

re: #156 lawhawk

Abramson was busy claiming earlier that there was mass evacuations from Pyongyang.

Now, there’s video showing military parades and Thriller-style dance routines by the soldiers. Woo.

Dictators love themselves military spectacles.

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He deleted the underlying tweet where he claimed evacuations were underway. That was a tweet based on bogus claims routed through Pravda and some bullshit website claiming to be a radio station in NYC that doesn’t exist.

Seth Abramson is NOT trustworthy. He’s stated outright that he thinks lying is a good way to promote a political cause. Nothing he tweets should be trusted.

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:49:30pm

Okay…it is easy to say Hillary was a bad campaigner.

Anyone want to add some definition and facts to that very general statement?

I saw her here in Columbus and I thought she did a fine job as far as an actual rally.

Is it how and where she campaigned, what she talked about, what?

I’d like to know, because if she was bad, what was Trump and he won???

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:49:47pm

re: #141 William Lewis

This was always the case and why she was soundly beaten by Obama 8 years earlier. The only reason she won the primaries this last time was the fact that Bernie was even F’n worse as a campaigner, though the Bros refuse to admit that and scream their conspiracy theories instead.

This socialist wants someone who can run a freaking campaign next time even if it’s a blue dog.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:50:36pm

re: #149 Stanley Sea

Done

xoxo!

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:51:19pm

re: #152 William Lewis

done, from the dairy state ;)

hugs!

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William Lewis  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:51:36pm

re: #161 Birth Control Works

My favorite example is the City of Troy —thought to be Myth for centuries, until an archaeologist/treasure hunter found it. Same with the clay soldiers in China!

I have hopes for Atlantis.

I’ve always thought that Santorini going boom took care that we’ll never get that evidence.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:51:45pm

re: #155 ObserverArt

I took the survey. I think a couple of the question could have used a “not sure” type answer instead of yes or no. Some of the decisions one must make have a lot of different reasons for their choice.

thank you!

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:52:27pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

We’re watching Guardians of the Galaxay on FX right now.
It’s a good remedy for the last few days.

19-2 on Acorn!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:52:28pm

re: #163 ObserverArt

Okay…it is easy to say Hillary was a bad campaigner.

Anyone want to add some definition and facts to that very general statement?

I saw her here in Columbus and I thought she did a fine job as far as an actual rally.

Is it how and where she campaigned, what she talked about, what?

I’d like to know, because if she was bad, what was Trump and he won???

I actually think there’s a ton of hindsight bias going on with Clinton. The idea she went to only safe Dem areas is bs. On election eve she was in Arizona, hardly safe Dem territory. Now maybe the campaign did underestimate Trump in the Rust Belt but I do think she ran a better campaign than her detractors give her credit for.

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bratwurst  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:55:37pm

re: #170 HappyWarrior

I do think she ran a better campaign than her detractors give her credit for.

Well she could hardly be WORSE than her detractors are now giving her credit for!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:56:39pm

And Kaine was a great choice. I’m proud to say I’ve voted for him five times: primary for governor, governor, primary for senator, senator, and VP. He’s a good public servant and man.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:57:47pm

re: #171 bratwurst

Well she could hardly be WORSE than her detractors are now giving her credit for!

I think it’s funny how the BBs never account for how abysmal Sanders did with key elements of the Dem base.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:58:19pm

Question:

Is Charitible giving low this year?

Team Oscar (our MS Walk Team) is really struggling this year. Can’t tell if it’s our marketing style or just a general decline overall.

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Varek Raith  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:58:40pm

re: #119 Birth Control Works

Done.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:59:23pm

re: #163 ObserverArt

Okay…it is easy to say Hillary was a bad campaigner.

Anyone want to add some definition and facts to that very general statement?

I saw her here in Columbus and I thought she did a fine job as far as an actual rally.

Is it how and where she campaigned, what she talked about, what?

I’d like to know, because if she was bad, what was Trump and he won???

When we tried to volunteer for one last day of canvassing, we found that the one paid organizer for 3 counties in North Florida, and other counties’ staff had been pulled to try to save Jacksonville. Fucking Florida.

That is just one of the tales to tell, there’s no sense in giving more aid and comfort.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:59:27pm

Got a long day tomorrow. Canvassing for Perriello and a House of Delegates candidate.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:59:29pm

Female communication style is different than Male Communication Style.

I think the electorate wants what is familiar even if it is bad for the country.

Voting, like all human action, is based on emotion.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:59:45pm

re: #175 Varek Raith

Done.

;)

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 14, 2017 • 6:59:47pm

re: #119 Birth Control Works

The kid needs people to take this survey for his branch of the American Marketing Association.

If you are inclined, please take it and share it with others. They are trying to get the largest possible sampling.

much appreciated!

xoxoxo

‘Bondale, huh?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:00:09pm

re: #119 Birth Control Works

The kid needs people to take this survey for his branch of the American Marketing Association.

If you are inclined, please take it and share it with others. They are trying to get the largest possible sampling.

much appreciated!

xoxoxo

I’m a sustainable organic farmer and I’m having real difficulty with the way some of those questions are framed.

It’s very much like a push poll.

“greenwashing”…seriously????

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Skip Intro  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:00:52pm

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:01:31pm

re: #178 Birth Control Works

Female communication style is different than Male Communication Style.

I think the electorate wants what is familiar even if it is bad for the country.

Voting, like all human action, is based on emotion.

Very true. Honestly I came to like and admire her the more I saw of her.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:01:40pm

re: #174 Birth Control Works

Question:

Is Charitible giving low this year?

Team Oscar (our MS Walk Team) is really struggling this year. Can’t tell if it’s our marketing style or just a general decline overall.

I think everyone is just incredibly depressed.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:02:00pm

re: #129 A Cranky One

Done.

love u!

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:02:32pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

A lot of the questions were designed to get a specific answer.

Like the value associated with different food items. That kind of spread would cause most people to pick the cheaper item, all else being equal.

If the difference was under a $1 for the same food item (organic vs. nonorganic), answers would be different.

Having a lack of don’t know or other options also skews some of the polling.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:02:54pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m a sustainable organic farmer and I’m having real difficulty with the way some of those questions are framed.

It’s very much like a push poll.

“greenwashing”…seriously????

I don’t get involved —just pass it on.

Kid’s stuff is the Kid’s stuff.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:07:08pm

re: #184 Stanley Sea

I think everyone is just incredibly depressed.

true! hubby says people are holding on to their money because they are unsure of the future.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:07:49pm

emailed the Kid and told him to peruse this thread for feedback.

Thanks everyone for your assistance to him.

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b_sharp  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:09:00pm

re: #186 lawhawk

A lot of the questions were designed to get a specific answer.

Like the value associated with different food items. That kind of spread would cause most people to pick the cheaper item, all else being equal.

If the difference was under a $1 for the same food item (organic vs. nonorganic), answers would be different.

Having a lack of don’t know or other options also skews some of the polling.

It was a very poorly designed poll. If it wasn’t intentionally pushing for certain answers it was certainly accidentally so.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:09:16pm

re: #187 Birth Control Works

I don’t get involved —just pass it on.

Kid’s stuff is the Kid’s stuff.

Just share the concerns with the kid that we raised here about the framing of some of the questions.
Please let him know that was not good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:11:13pm

re: #190 b_sharp

It was a very poorly designed poll. If it wasn’t intentionally pushing for certain answers it was certainly accidentally so.

I was really stunned that there were specific milk companies named in two organic or whatever milk questions.

That is so totally not proper.

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b_sharp  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:11:45pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just share the concerns with the kid that we raised here about the framing of some of the questions.
Please let him know that was not good.

The questions were decidedly not neutral.

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:11:49pm

re: #176 Decatur Deb

When we tried to volunteer for one last day of canvassing, we found that the one paid organizer for 3 counties in North Florida, and other counties’ staff had been pulled to try to save Jacksonville. Fucking Florida.

That is just one of the tales to tell, there’s no sense in giving more aid and comfort.

Wasn’t she up in Florida at the time, same as she was up in some of the states she lost?

I’m not trying to make excuses, but the polls did some really wacky things this year too. Her campaign may have been too confident in the numbers.

It was almost like people were waiting to the last minute to decide to vote against her and all that baggage. Maybe the late email antics gave them their out.

And yes, even in light of the pussy grabbing,

I wonder if you can even measure what happened since there was so much to occur that was out of the norm of a typical presidential campaign. And I think people forget it and don’t give it its due.

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:12:56pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m a sustainable organic farmer and I’m having real difficulty with the way some of those questions are framed.

It’s very much like a push poll.

“greenwashing”…seriously????

Students!

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retired cynic  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:13:17pm

re: #167 William Lewis

I’ve always thought that Santorini going boom took care that we’ll never get that evidence.

Me, too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:14:24pm

re: #196 ObserverArt

Students!

Lordt…I’m an older but still remember that purity…

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:14:32pm

Missed this.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:15:41pm
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Decatur Deb  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:16:54pm

re: #195 ObserverArt

Wasn’t she up in Florida at the time, same as she was up in some of the states she lost?

I’m not trying to make excuses, but the polls did some really wacky things this year too. Her campaign may have been too confident in the numbers.

It was almost like people were waiting to the last minute to decide to vote against her and all that baggage. Maybe the late email antics gave them their out.

And yes, even in light of the pussy grabbing,

I wonder if you can even measure what happened since there was so much to occur that was out of the norm of a typical presidential campaign. And I think people forget it and don’t give it its due.

This is what I’ve said here before: The critical states were so close that almost anything could be said to have cost her the election.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:19:22pm

re: #119 Birth Control Works

I did it - how do I find out my score?

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:19:41pm
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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:20:22pm

re: #202 Jebediah, RBG

I did it - how do I find out my score?

no clue—will find out

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b_sharp  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:20:27pm

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was really stunned that there were specific milk companies named in two organic or whatever milk questions.

That is so totally not proper.

Full disclosure: I find claims for organic foods to be irrelevant, but the poll was not what I would put together. My training in designing psychological surveys is almost 40yrs old mind you so I’m no expert.

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:21:14pm

re: #199 Stanley Sea

Things got insane at NYP tonight.

First there was major power issues on the NEC into and out of NYP (Penn Station) starting around 4ish. Then there was an altercation that involved police during rush hour. During the altercation, some people thought they heard gunfire and started a stampede.

That brought out an even bigger police presence because there were already police and fire there due to a disabled train.

Right now, there’s more than 2 hour delays in/out of NYP.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:22:10pm

re: #203 Birth Control Works

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Jesus.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:22:45pm

re: #201 Decatur Deb

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:23:39pm

re: #201 Decatur Deb

This is what I’ve said here before: The critical states were so close that almost anything could be said to have cost her the election.

Yes. And what could have been done to not cost her? I am sometimes leaning on “nothing” because I am going to go with what I’ve said before…she ran into a perfect storm…so much came together against her and it was her undoing.

Being so close I think “nothing she could do” is a valid answer. All the unknowns were unknown right up to election night. I think that is why the pollsters were all doubting their own numbers…right up to election night.

I think anyone that thinks they can state they know what happened is bullshitting.

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Skip Intro  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:25:01pm

re: #203 Birth Control Works

So I guess this means Vallejo outranks Low in the church.

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William Lewis  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:28:32pm

Well. Only takes about 20 minutes to get to work​ on my bike. Not too bad for a fat old fart like me. Only stopped​ once when required by a stop sign at a busy road.

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:29:23pm

re: #208 Decatur Deb

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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:29:41pm

re: #174 Birth Control Works

Question:

Is Charitible giving low this year?

Team Oscar (our MS Walk Team) is really struggling this year. Can’t tell if it’s our marketing style or just a general decline overall.

My own charitable giving is up over 300% post-election. There are a bunch of MN charities that I give to via paycheck donations, and I picked another dozen national orgs that need money to fight Trumps bullshit. There are so many orgs that need help that it’s hard to pick, and I still feel like I’m not doing enough to really help.

That, plus anyone that you donate to instantly starts notifying you that they need more money immediately or horrible things will happen. You can’t win.

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:31:45pm

re: #211 William Lewis

Well. Only takes about 20 minutes to get to work​ on my bike. Not too bad for a fat old fart like me. Only stopped​ once when required by a stop sign at a busy road.

Keep it up and next thing you know you’ll be doing Pete Townshend scissor kicks practicing with your guitar being all lean and mean.

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b_sharp  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:32:14pm

I’ve had bad acid reflux all day so I don’t know whether I should go do my walk tonight. Uncertainty is annoying.

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jaunte  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:32:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:32:31pm

re: #213 stpaulbear

My own charitable giving is up over 300% post-election. There are a bunch of MN charities that I give to via paycheck donations, and I picked another dozen national orgs that need money to fight Trumps bullshit. There are so many orgs that need help that it’s hard to pick, and I still feel like I’m not doing enough to really help.

That, plus anyone that you donate to instantly starts notifying you that they need more money immediately or horrible things will happen. You can’t win.

I’ve been volunteering. It feels great.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:33:27pm

re: #205 b_sharp

Full disclosure: I find claims for organic foods to be irrelevant, but the poll was not what I would put together. My training in designing psychological surveys is almost 40yrs old mind you so I’m no expert.

What is so weird is that at the same time I was going through that poll, I got a phone call from University of Kentucky doing a poll thing about farmers markets, nutrition, fruits and veg, specifically in my county…
Right off the bat I told the person I was one of the original five founders of the farmers market here in my county back in 1998, so please keep that in mind…and also keep in mind that I am indeed a fruit and veg farmer so ….

Much mirth ensured.

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William Lewis  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:34:57pm

re: #214 ObserverArt

Keep it up and next thing you know you’ll be doing Pete Townshend scissor kicks practicing with your guitar being all lean and mean.

Only if the seat stops chaffing my groin… Ow!

But I do need the exercise so I intend to keep at it.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:36:20pm

re: #212 ObserverArt

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It don’ make no never-mind. HRC and Bernie are over. In the next 3 years the Dems better re-learn everything they thought they knew about solidarity and coalition-building.

If we do what we did, we get what we got.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:36:53pm

re: #215 b_sharp

I’ve had bad acid reflux all day so I don’t know whether I should go do my walk tonight. Uncertainty is annoying.

I would suggest the walk would help more than not.

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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:37:03pm

re: #215 b_sharp

I’ve had bad acid reflux all day so I don’t know whether I should go do my walk tonight. Uncertainty is annoying.

1/2 a tsp of baking soda in a small glass of water. Tastes horrible but it works well for me. Arm & Hammer actually shows ‘Drug Facts’ info on the box.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:38:15pm

from my email—Senator Dick Durban:

There’s a new development on Russia I want to make sure you’re aware of:

A Russian state-controlled oil company may be about to take over key energy infrastructure in the U.S. Rosneft, which is run by cronies of none other than Vladimir Putin, may acquire energy giant CITGO, which operates 48 oil terminals, nine pipelines and three refineries within the U.S., and has more than 6,000 franchise locations across the country.

In light of Russia’s cyberattacks against America during the 2016 election, allowing a company with close ties to Putin to control major components of America’s energy infrastructure is a major national security risk.

Interesting —huh?

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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:39:02pm
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Birth Control Works  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:40:19pm

re: #213 stpaulbear

My own charitable giving is up over 300% post-election. There are a bunch of MN charities that I give to via paycheck donations, and I picked another dozen national orgs that need money to fight Trumps bullshit. There are so many orgs that need help that it’s hard to pick, and I still feel like I’m not doing enough to really help.

That, plus anyone that you donate to instantly starts notifying you that they need more money immediately or horrible things will happen. You can’t win.

Thanks for your contributions —where ever they go …

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b_sharp  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:45:26pm

re: #219 William Lewis

Only if the seat stops chaffing my groin… Ow!

But I do need the exercise so I intend to keep at it.

Get a gel seat pad.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:47:06pm

re: #226 b_sharp

Get a gel seat pad.

Bell offers a wide gel seat that just slides in the post. Wife called hers an Old, Broad, Seat.

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b_sharp  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:48:03pm

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

I would suggest the walk would help more than not.

Problem is I don’t know if the acid reflux is … acid reflux or heart. It didn’t respond to Tums. I’m seriously wishing my heart attack had been with pain and not a feeling of acid reflux. It would make it easier to figure out what was going on.

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b_sharp  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:48:44pm

re: #222 stpaulbear

1/2 a tsp of baking soda in a small glass of water. Tastes horrible but it works well for me. Arm & Hammer actually shows ‘Drug Facts’ info on the box.

I’ve taken Tums twice. It didn’t work.

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William Lewis  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:49:26pm

re: #226 b_sharp

Get a gel seat pad.

Was looking​at seats on Amazon but a pad might be good too. Thanks!

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b_sharp  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:49:39pm

re: #227 Decatur Deb

Bell offers a wide gel seat that just slides in the post. Wife called hers an Old, Broad, Seat.

When I rode I used one. Made my old ass quite happy.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:49:52pm

re: #216 jaunte

BREAKING: North Korea has launched a projectile, believed to be ballistic missile

(Via Xinhua)

Annnnd…the tweet is deleted…

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Decatur Deb  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:50:58pm

re: #232 FormerDirtDart

Annnnd…the tweet is deleted…

Projectile Dysfunction.

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b_sharp  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:51:00pm

I’m going for my walk. I’ll just pay more attention to how I feel.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:51:27pm

re: #234 b_sharp

I’m going for my walk. I’ll just pay more attention to how I feel.

Take a cell phone.

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jaunte  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:51:38pm

The Emily Litella News Agency says “Never mind.”

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b_sharp  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:52:34pm

re: #235 Decatur Deb

Take a cell phone.

I’m using a tread mill until the weather improves. We’re still trying to break into spring up here.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 14, 2017 • 7:53:41pm

re: #237 b_sharp

I’m using a tread mill until the weather improves. We’re still trying to break into spring up here.

We’re getting a few table-ready tomatoes.

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prairiefire  Apr 14, 2017 • 8:04:12pm

re: #228 b_sharp

Have you tried a proton pump inhibitor? Raise the top end of your bed frame for lift.

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2017 • 8:11:07pm

re: #238 Decatur Deb

We’re getting a few table-ready tomatoes.

My table is ready!

Send some up…

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BeachDem  Apr 14, 2017 • 8:13:52pm

re: #170 HappyWarrior

I actually think there’s a ton of hindsight bias going on with Clinton. The idea she went to only safe Dem areas is bs. On election eve she was in Arizona, hardly safe Dem territory. Now maybe the campaign did underestimate Trump in the Rust Belt but I do think she ran a better campaign than her detractors give her credit for.

And with the naysayers, she couldn’t do anything right no matter what she did. She met with small business groups—they said she was pandering. She went to red states during the primaries—they said she shouldn’t waste her time because those voters didn’t matter.

When she came here, the day before our primary, our rally was the last of 4 or 5 of the day, and she was charming and enthusiastic and gracious. (And she took every county in the state.) But oh, that didn’t matter because it’s a southern state with uninformed voters (according to the berners). I’m so sick of all the self-righteous crap from the “progressives,” and I’m also sick of them usurping the title of progressive. If you don’t agree with every last thing they say, you’re a neo-liberal corporatist or some such crap.

Argghh—my mood hasn’t improved since reading about the extraordinarly good man who was also, by the way, a rapist.

Here’s a pic of that cold, uninspiring, cackling she-devil the last time I saw her.


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