re: #137 right_wing2

I would define torture as anything that left a permanent mark, scar or deformity.

Removing a finger is torture.

Breaking a finger is not.

Castration is torture.

A kick to the groin is not.

I would say that any kind of physical harm is torture. Leaving a mark or not. Torture is not only physical too…sometimes psychological torture is even worse than the physical variety.

Torture is a means to an end. We captured one of the highest ranking AQ figures with KSM. If we did not torture this pile of sh*t, I would want someone to get fired and tossed in jail forever for dereliction of duty. We live in a big bad world and sometimes we have to do unpleasant things. Do hold this animal and not try to extract every ounce of possible intel would have been a crime…not the waterboarding.