re: #161 Blind Frog Belly White

I think in Bush’s case it wasn’t so much cynicism as it is naivete. I think he and a lot of the PNAC types really, truly believed all they needed to do was to kick over the anthill, and everything would come up Western-style pluralistic democracies.

how short sighted did they have to be to not realize that establishing a democracy in the only other shi’ite majority country in the muslim world would create a strong ally for iran?

and that people are not automatically grateful when you “save” them when they never asked you to