Rick Perry Is the First to Bail

I guess the glasses didn’t do the trick
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With one last feeble slap at his nemesis Donald Trump, Rick Perry is the first Republican candidate to bail out.

That is why today I am suspending my campaign for the presidency of the United States,” he said, adding that he has “no regrets” about his run.

He also took what appeared to be a veiled swipe at GOP frontrunner Donald Trump. “Demeaning people of Hispanic heritage is not just ignorant, it betrays the example of Christ,” he said.

Now there are only 16 GOP candidates left, all of whom claim to have heard the word of God telling them to run for president. But then, Rick Perry also heard that disembodied voice, and now look at him.

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199 comments
1
freetoken  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:26:50pm

One creationist down, 14 or 15 to go.

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The Mountain That Blogs  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:27:10pm

So long, farewell, and, uh…forgot the third thing. Oops.

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wrenchwench  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:27:58pm

Repeat:

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thedopefishlives  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:28:03pm

I’m sorry, Governor Perry, but… You ARE the weakest link. Goodbye.

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:28:51pm

You’re fired.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:29:03pm

re: #5 Nyet

You’re fired.

Damn, I wish I’d thought of that one.

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:29:44pm

Has Trump actually said that god told him to run? That seems out of character for Trump, since who is this god person to give advice to The Donald?

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thedopefishlives  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:30:59pm

re: #7 EPR-radar

Has Trump actually sad that god told him to run? That seems out of character for Trump, since who is this god person to give advice to The Donald?

Probably not. As mentioned before, The Donald’s lack of over-the-top evangelicalism is probably going to be his undoing.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:31:28pm

re: #7 EPR-radar

Has Trump actually sad that god told him to run? That seems out of character for Trump, since who is this god person to give advice to The Donald?

God is just Trump’s old nickname for himself. He’s also been known to go by “The Greatest”.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:32:42pm

Rick Perry bails, but the glasses and memories live on.

Rick Perry bails from the #GOPClownCar. #adios

*cue Celine Dion - All By Myself *

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:32:58pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

God is just Trump’s old nickname for himself. He’s also been known to go by “The Greatest”.

Think that’s his pet name for his..you know…whatever.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:33:42pm

re: #11 Decatur Deb

Think that’s his pet name for his..you know…whatever.

No that’s “The Donald and two”

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:34:35pm

So, in a race where there’s at least 17 running, 1 dropped out. Jindal says he’s the best governor of them all, so that suggests that Walker, Christie and Jindal should follow Perry’s lead - especially since all have been circling the drain for weeks now. And Walker’s fall from grace has been particularly stunning.

Of course, there’s a few people complaining that the debate is somehow unbalanced now that Perry’s out.

No, seriously.

It’s unbalanced because the GOP are unbalanced and unhinged. The optics of the debates are insane because there’s 16 15 left running (or isn’t it 17/16 given Gilmore?). Instead of this nonsense, split it into 8 and 7. Too bad so sad for those who think they belong at the big kid’s table.

And frankly, all of them belong at the kid’s table.

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Skip Intro  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:36:12pm

How the hell does Christ keep getting brought into the conversation, especially by this guy? These classless religious pukes make me gag.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:36:34pm

re: #13 lawhawk

So, in a race where there’s at least 17 running, 1 dropped out. Jindal says he’s the best governor of them all, so that suggests that Walker, Christie and Jindal should follow Perry’s lead - especially since all have been circling the drain for weeks now. And Walker’s fall from grace has been particularly stunning.

Of course, there’s a few people complaining that the debate is somehow unbalanced now that Perry’s out.

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No, seriously.

It’s unbalanced because the GOP are unbalanced and unhinged. The optics of the debates are insane because there’s 16 15 left running (or isn’t it 17/16 given Gilmore?). Instead of this nonsense, split it into 8 and 7. Too bad so sad for those who think they belong at the big kid’s table.

And frankly, all of them belong at the kid’s table.

15 candidate debate? Why not just have whoever is polling best have a boxing match and the one who wins that gets declared most conservative of them all by magic mirror on the wall.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:37:14pm

re: #14 Skip Intro

How the hell does Christ keep getting brought into the conversation, especially by this guy? These classless religious pukes make me gag.

In these peoples’ minds, if Christ isn’t part of the conversation, it isn’t a conversation worth having.

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:37:40pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

15 candidate debate? Why not just have whoever is polling best have a boxing match and the one who wins that gets declared most conservative of them all by magic mirror on the wall.

That would actually be a more benign and rational process than what will happen.

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freetoken  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:38:06pm

So, can we conclude that wearing glasses to make oneself look smart doesn’t work?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:38:07pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

15 candidate debate? Why not just have whoever is polling best have a boxing match and the one who wins that gets declared most conservative of them all by magic mirror on the wall.

I’d watch that.

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:38:33pm

re: #16 thedopefishlives

In these peoples’ minds, if Christ isn’t part of the conversation, it isn’t a conversation worth having.

But it’s not much of a conversation since the RWNJ Christ is blatantly a projection of RWNJ bile and prejudice.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:39:20pm

re: #17 EPR-radar

That would actually be a more benign and rational process than what will happen.

Of course. Boxing is an art form, trying to out right wing each other for an audience that boos openly gay military members ands chants let him die is a sadder audience than a WWE one.

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:39:30pm

re: #19 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Thunderdome!

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Skip Intro  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:39:37pm

re: #20 EPR-radar

But it’s not much of a conversation since the RWNJ Christ is blatantly a projection of RWNJ bile and prejudice.

And yet Republicans wonder why they don’t get the Jewish vote.

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BongCrodny  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:40:09pm

So I got this in my email today from The National Memo:

Rick Perry Drops Out Of Presidential Race

In a concession speech delivered to the Eagle Forum in St. Louis, Missouri, the former Texas governor took aim at Donald Trump — without directly mentioning the business tycoon’s name. He challenged voters to resist the lures of celebrity, coded racism, xenophobic discourse, false conservatism, and candidates who did not have true Christian faith.

Like “N*****rhead,” Governor?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:40:41pm

re: #23 Skip Intro

And yet Republicans wonder why they don’t get the Jewish vote.

They don’t even get the Catholic vote consistently. If it wasn’t for white Protestants, they’d be fucked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:40:50pm

it is raining here.

so nice…

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freetoken  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:41:32pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

Of course. Boxing is an art form, trying to out right wing each other for an audience that boos openly gay military members ands chants let him die is a sadder audience than a WWE one.

Speaking of WWE, do they still do their “Survivor” thing? IIRC, they had teams of 5 who would battle it out until only one person on one team remained.

So, if there are 15 Republicans, that makes for 3 full Survivor teams.

I think CNN should go with that format (with kudos, and money, to Trump’s buddy McMahon.)

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:41:33pm

re: #23 Skip Intro

And yet Republicans wonder why they don’t get the Jewish vote.

Even GOP moderates have the imagination and empathy of a cinder block. The RWNJs are completely disconnected from reality.

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Tigger2  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:41:38pm

If the Republicans really want to cut down on their debate time just have one candidate get up there and talk for an hr, hell they most all think the same and talk the same old shit anyway.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:41:48pm

re: #24 BongCrodny

So I got this in my email today from The National Memo:

Rick Perry Drops Out Of Presidential Race

Like “N*****rhead,” Governor?

True Christian faith? These guys aren’t even hiding the fact that they see their party as a Christianist party.

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The Mountain That Blogs  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:41:49pm

re: #24 BongCrodny

Look, he’s only railing against coded racism.

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freetoken  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:41:58pm

Did you know that Donald Trump is in the WWE hall of fame?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:42:26pm

re: #27 freetoken

Speaking of WWE, do they still do their “Survivor” thing? IIRC, they had teams of 5 who would battle it out until only one person on one team remained.

So, if there are 15 Republicans, that makes for 3 full Survivor teams.

I think CNN should go with that format (with kudos, and money, to Trump’s buddy McMahon.)

Dunno I always have found WWE tacky. I enjoy boxing though.

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:42:34pm

re: #31 The Mountain That Blogs

Look, he’s only railing against coded racism.

That makes ******head ranch OK. /////

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Skip Intro  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:42:43pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lucky you. It’s still hotter than hell here and half the state is on fire.

At least we’ve got that sure thing El Nino massive rains going for us.

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:43:28pm

re: #35 Skip Intro

Lucky you. It’s still hotter than hell here and half the state is on fire.

At least we’ve got that sure thing El Nino massive rains going for us.

Don’t jinx it.

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Skip Intro  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:44:04pm

re: #36 EPR-radar

Don’t jinx it.

I’m afraid the media already has. I already know where to go to pick up sandbags.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:46:35pm

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:46:44pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:47:16pm

re: #38 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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You’re a talented photographer.

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b.d.  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:47:41pm

The GOP are down to only one Texan (via Canada) now? Florida still is putting up Jeb! and Little Marco.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:47:58pm

Perry loses by default to Jim Gilmore. Man that’s sad.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:48:05pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

You’re a talented photographer.

Sadly, none are mine. Two of that set are from another coworker of hers, and the rest are hers.

But I’ll have a bunch after this vacation that I need to pack for …leaving tomorrow…

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:48:18pm

re: #38 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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thedopefishlives  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:48:47pm

re: #44 Nyet

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Of course there are, but honestly, I wouldn’t get too freaked about it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:48:50pm

re: #43 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Sadly, none are mine. Two of that set are from another coworker of hers, and the rest are hers.

But I’ll have a bunch after this vacation that I need to pack for …leaving tomorrow…

Ah okay. Great photos in any case, I enjoy photography quite a bit myself.

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wrenchwench  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:49:31pm
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BongCrodny  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:49:42pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

it is raining here.

so nice…

I’m going to say something here that might be seen a treason or sacrilege to some.

Last night here in KC, we had a freaking monster storm. Near Biblical proportions. One of the loudest storms I’ve ever experienced with the kind of rain where mere seconds outside would thoroughly drench you. It was quite awe-inspiring. I watched it from my window for a bit.

I was watching the Patriots-Steelers game…and I turned it off and went outside on the porch to watch the storm. :-)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:50:15pm

re: #45 thedopefishlives

Of course there are, but honestly, I wouldn’t get too freaked about it.

It’s always funny when someone with a join date of 2004ish wakes up from long slumber to tell Charles how disappointed they are.

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:50:49pm

re: #47 wrenchwench

Any sockpuppies?

;)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:51:01pm

re: #44 Nyet

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:51:03pm

re: #18 freetoken

So, can we conclude that wearing glasses to make oneself look smart doesn’t work?

Oh, fuck.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:51:40pm
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Jay C  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:52:05pm

My only thought, every time I see a pic of Rick Perry, is “THIS is the guy Texas went for over Kinky Friedman???”

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:54:37pm

re: #54 Jay C

My only thought, every time I see a pic of Rick Perry, is “THIS is the guy Texas went for over Kinky Friedman???”

True, but it didn’t help Kinky’s cause that he often came across as a conservative d-bag himself.

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wrenchwench  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:56:00pm

re: #50 Nyet

Any sockpuppies?

;)

Only kittehs.

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:57:02pm

re: #56 wrenchwench

Owl playing fetch with a sock vine

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andres  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:57:29pm

The debates can be reduced to two contestants: The Donald, and the Not-Donald. Trump is the only one who isn’t always kowtowing the official Republican line. Most of the time, yeah, but not always.

That was painful to say.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:58:23pm

re: #27 freetoken

It’s called the Survivor Series and yes I believe they still have it. I think I may be the only Lizard who enjoys wrestling. What can I say? I am what I am.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:58:31pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

It is way more specific than even that. They are manifestly Evangelical Fundamentalist Right Wing Christians, meaning Catholics would be tolerated only if they are subservient and completely loyal to their ideology and power structure. Mainline Christian sects (Methodist, Lutheran, etc) are expected to tow the line and just keep quiet. Eastern Orthodox and Mormons are suspect. Other religions and especially the non-religious/atheists are expected to be completely silent, invisible, and powerless, …just like black people.

This is how large swaths of the southern US operates, especially in smaller towns. It is how many of these candidates are used to things being throughout all their lives. These Republican candidates are simply bringing the small town way of doing things to the national stage.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 3:58:41pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:00:02pm
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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:00:17pm

re: #60 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Why are Eastern Orthodox suspect? Doctrinally not hugely different from Catholics.

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wrenchwench  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:01:22pm

re: #57 Nyet

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Ooooh and awwwwwww!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:02:34pm

re: #63 Nyet

Why are Eastern Orthodox suspect? Doctrinally not hugely different from Catholics.

TEHY CROSS TEMSLEVEZ FROM LEFT TO RIHGTE! SEEKRIT LEFTITS CODE!!!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:03:17pm

re: #61 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This one is going to be a present for my mom, because every year for Mother’s Day we would do a photo in front of the azalea bushes at the house. I figure my parents will probably sell the house in a year or two, and even if they didn’t we’re rarely home anymore for the photo. But the piece is called Azalea, and she’s holding two azalea buds.

If I’m really lucky I’ll get it finished for Christmas.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:03:46pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:06:21pm

And now…

CATS VS. ZOMBIES

Cats vs Zombies

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:06:43pm
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Skip Intro  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:08:51pm

Have the networks/newspapers fired everybody who know how to use words?

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:08:52pm

Mindfreak!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:14:01pm

“‘Run for President,’ God said. ‘It’ll be fun,’ God Said.” (In my best John McClane voice)

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:14:44pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

purrrfect ending

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:14:59pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

And now…

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Skip Intro  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:15:23pm

re: #72 Blind Frog Belly White

“‘Run for President,’ God said. ‘It’ll be fun,’ God Said.” (In my best John McClane voice)

He said the same thing to all of the others, except Trump. That God guy has one hell of a sense of humor.

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DesertDenizen  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:17:25pm

The glasses actually made it worse. He wore them to seem more intelligent, but intelligence is a negative to the modern GOP.

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geosherman  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:17:44pm

in my facebook feed, the pastor of a mega church ranting about something. Is this guy straddling the line between and politics or did he jump right over it:
-Facebook cut and paste————-
Dudley Rutherford
7 hrs *

So 14 years to the DAY that we SWORE to NEVER FORGET, our inept Government is choosing to VOTE on giving money and nuclear weapons within 10 years to a nation (Iran) who has SWORN the destruction of Israel and the United States of America. Why would you even VOTE on THIS day. At least vote on another day!!!!!!!!!!! And why, in the name of SANITY, would you even consider giving money to someone who has SWORN our destruction. 42 democratic congressmen/women have sided AGAINST what Israel wants and they desire, under our President’s direction to give BILLIONS of dollars to a Government that has pledged their lives to OUR DESTRUCTION. If WE GIVE MONEY TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE SWORN OUR DESTRUCTION THEN WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ACTUALLY FUNDING OUR OWN DESTRUCTION.

Never FORGET THIS DAY! NEVER FORGET THESE 42 DEMOCRATS NOR THIS PRESIDENT WHO IS TAKING OUR MONEY AND SENDING IT TO THE NUMBER ONE NATION IN THE WORLD THAT SPONSORS TERRORISM.

I PRAY FOR OUR PRESIDENT.
I PRAY FOR OUR CONGRESS.
I PRAY FOR OUR NATION.
I PRAY FOR THOSE WHO ARE SILENT.
I PRAY FOR THOSE WHO LOST THEIR LIVES IN 911
I PRAY FOR ISRAEL
I PRAY FOR IRAN
I PRAY FOR YOU.
I PRAY FOR ME.
I PRAY FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO DESTROY US.
I PRAY WE WILL ALL WAKE UP.

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darthstar  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:20:11pm

He’s not quitting…he’s ‘suspending’…he can unsuspend later if everyone else shits the bed.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:20:31pm

re: #77 geosherman

Sigh.

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darthstar  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:21:28pm
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:21:56pm

re: #72 Blind Frog Belly White

“‘Run for President,’ God said. ‘It’ll be fun,’ God Said.” (In my best John McClane voice)

And in this image, we see the archangels rapturously listening as God addresses the Republican candidates.

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Teukka  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:22:15pm

re: #79 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Sigh.

So… Much… Derp…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:23:46pm

re: #82 Teukka

The pain and the grief I saw 14 years ago deserves better than to be a political lever, although I know better than to expect that from either side.

But I think substantially less of anyone who uses it that way.

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#CampaignZero  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:24:10pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

And now…

CATS VS. ZOMBIES

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Video

Damn that was good!

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:24:11pm

re: #77 geosherman

He seems level-headed.

“…Rev. Dudley Rutherford, predicted that if Prop. 8 fails, the God-ordained institution of marriage would be destroyed; the engine of hate crimes legislation would be fueled, ultimately leading to it being illegal to read some sections of the Bible; the floodgates would be open to gay couples suing to force churches to marry them; and the polygamists would be next.”
pfaw.org

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:25:00pm

Bobby Jindal’s attempt to withhold funding from PP isn’t going over too well with the courts. They were asked to provide a list of alternative providers, and the LA officials did a document code dump, throwing in a bunch of unrelated medical specialties into the mix. Like eye doctors and the like - medical care practitioners who don’t provide birth control or reproductive health screening.

So, the court told them to come back with a cleaned up list.

The list is substantially shorter- as one would expect.

And it shows that far from the hundreds originally claimed, there’s just 29 statewide, with 24 providing the same range of services as PP. Most of them have significant wait lists too.

This should not end well for the LA officials. This is what Jindal wrought - trying a clearly illegal maneuver to deprive women access to health care - and wasting taxpayer money on defending this nonsense.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:25:31pm

The Federer-Wawrinka semifinal US Open match should be fun, especially since announcer John McEnroe sounds like he just downed a six martini dinner.

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nines09  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:28:03pm

re: #86 lawhawk

About how much has the GOP burned on ACA repeal attempts? Any idea?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:28:05pm

I am now ready to declare victory in the Unicode Wars. Mission accomplished.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:28:15pm

This is probably a terrible thing to admit, but I’m tired of 9/11.

I’m blessed/cursed with an excellent memory, so I remember it well, as well as the following days of shock, disbelief, horror, sadness, anger, and fear. I don’t need reminders, and I doubly don’t need pissants like Ben Fucking Shapiro using 9/11 as a way to crap on his fellow Americans. I won’t link, but he wrote an article titled, “FOR OBAMA AND THE LEFT, ‘NEVER FORGET’ IS BULLS***”

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:31:23pm
I’m Buddy Cole and although I’m from Canada I endorse this message
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:32:13pm
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thedopefishlives  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:32:25pm

re: #90 Blind Frog Belly White

This is probably a terrible thing to admit, but I’m tired of 9/11.

I’m blessed/cursed with an excellent memory, so I remember it well, as well as the following days of shock, disbelief, horror, sadness, anger, and fear. I don’t need reminders, and I doubly don’t need pissants like Ben Fucking Shapiro using 9/11 as a way to crap on his fellow Americans. I won’t link, but he wrote an article titled, “FOR OBAMA AND THE LEFT, ‘NEVER FORGET’ IS BULLS***”

I don’t mind the reminders so much, because not everyone has a memory like yours or mine. But I do get sick of people politicizing the hell out of 9/11. It was a non-partisan event and people remember it in their own way, so shut up and stop bitching and maybe reflect on your own remembrance for a while. Stupid pundits.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:34:18pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

I am now ready to declare victory in the Unicode Wars. Mission accomplished.

It’s gonna sneak back onya…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:34:25pm

re: #91 De Kolta Chair

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You’ll do the same when you have to endorse Donald too Bobby. What a frogging whiner.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:34:50pm

How in the hell does Ben Shapiro keep cranking out one absurd, repetitive right wing rant after another? They’re all interchangeable and he just keeps going and going, saying the same things over and over and over. It’s creepy.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:35:10pm

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Teukka  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:35:48pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

How in the hell does Ben Shapiro keep cranking out one absurd, repetitive right wing rant after another? They’re all interchangeable and he just keeps going and going, saying the same things over and over and over. It’s creepy.

Stream of consciousness *something* *something* *something* *something* ?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:35:50pm

re: #97 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Got her wallet in hand this time, eh?

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makeitstop  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:36:15pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

How in the hell does Ben Shapiro keep cranking out one absurd, repetitive right wing rant after another? They’re all interchangeable and he just keeps going and going, saying the same things over and over and over. It’s creepy.

Monomania is a weird thing, and Benny Boy haz it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:36:21pm

re: #90 Blind Frog Belly White

This is probably a terrible thing to admit, but I’m tired of 9/11.

I’m blessed/cursed with an excellent memory, so I remember it well, as well as the following days of shock, disbelief, horror, sadness, anger, and fear. I don’t need reminders, and I doubly don’t need pissants like Ben Fucking Shapiro using 9/11 as a way to crap on his fellow Americans. I won’t link, but he wrote an article titled, “FOR OBAMA AND THE LEFT, ‘NEVER FORGET’ IS BULLS***”

I understand what you mean. I’m with dope fish in that I’m tired of the politicization of it and Republicans using to talk about how they care about stopping terrorism and Dems don’t. And then there are the Islamaphobe fucks.

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nines09  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:36:36pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

Money.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:36:37pm

re: #98 Teukka

Stream of incontinence?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:36:39pm

re: #99 Blind Frog Belly White

Got her wallet in hand this time, eh?

Hahaha, oh yes. She’s not going to live that one down.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:36:51pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

How in the hell does Ben Shapiro keep cranking out one absurd, repetitive right wing rant after another? They’re all interchangeable and he just keeps going and going, saying the same things over and over and over. It’s creepy.

He’s drunk with ragehol.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:37:47pm

Keep in mind it’s still in the upper 90s, if not higher, for most of CA.

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Teukka  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:37:53pm

re: #103 Blind Frog Belly White

Stream of incontinence?

No, that’s upchuck.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:38:19pm

re: #88 nines09

Millions of dollars, but the costs are far higher, especially for the millions of people in states that didn’t expand Medicare and therefore didn’t benefit from coverage.

And the states that refused to expand Medicare are primarily GOP dominated states and those that had among the highest rates of uninsureds in the first place.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:38:33pm

re: #107 Teukka

No, that’s upchuck.

Stream of upchuck?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:39:00pm

re: #108 lawhawk

Millions of dollars, but the costs are far higher, especially for the millions of people in states that didn’t expand Medicare and therefore didn’t benefit from coverage.

And the states that refused to expand Medicare are primarily GOP dominated states and those that had among the highest rates of uninsureds in the first place.

At least they’re consistent!

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A Mom Anon  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:39:32pm

re: #90 Blind Frog Belly White

I have a friend who lives on Long Island and worked right across the street from the WTC. Her office was on the 40th floor, so she got a full view of what happened. She and her coworkers made it out of the building and to the street. What she saw there was simply horror. People burned, she saw people leaping out of windows, and she recalls dragging a screaming and sobbing co-worker away from the mess because her boyfriend was basically in the place where the plane hit WTC 1. 14 yrs later she and her husband still unplug from everything for a couple of days around this time and just avoid any real reminders. Mostly because of the bullshit pandering and politicizing of this day.

I understand a need for some reverence, but I don’t quite get the need for memorials in places that weren’t hit that day or never even had anyone from that place lost on that day. My friends call it fetishizing death and co-opting grief as an excuse to hate. And if my Facebook feed today was any indication, they aren’t wrong. I just unfollowed almost everyone, more may end up just gone if this shit doesn’t stop. I’ve lost so many friends over this sort of crap in the last 2 years, it’s so sad. These aren’t stupid people either, but damn. Most of them used to be fairly liberal, and over the years they’ve all just went nuts. Sigh. I hate it.

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wrenchwench  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:39:34pm

re: #106 klys (maker of Silmarils)

First one looks like a trash fire out of control.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:41:05pm

re: #109 Blind Frog Belly White

Stream of upchuck?

Do NOT cross the streams!!!!!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:41:06pm

re: #112 wrenchwench

We are hopefully being overly cautious but since the last experience better over-prepared than otherwise.

Especially since I don’t think she’s gotten the renter’s insurance sorted out yet. The more of her stuff she can get in her car, the better.

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wrenchwench  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:41:16pm

re: #111 A Mom Anon

My friends call it fetishizing death and co-opting grief as an excuse to hate.

Yep.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:41:28pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

Do NOT cross the streams!!!!!

It would be bad.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:42:24pm

BBL, I have a headache brewing. I really need new glasses.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:42:26pm

re: #116 Blind Frog Belly White

It would be bad.

very VERY bad…

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:43:08pm

re: #90 Blind Frog Belly White

This is probably a terrible thing to admit, but I’m tired of 9/11.

I’m blessed/cursed with an excellent memory, so I remember it well, as well as the following days of shock, disbelief, horror, sadness, anger, and fear. I don’t need reminders, and I doubly don’t need pissants like Ben Fucking Shapiro using 9/11 as a way to crap on his fellow Americans. I won’t link, but he wrote an article titled, “FOR OBAMA AND THE LEFT, ‘NEVER FORGET’ IS BULLS***”

The biggest problem is that we never even tried to get closure in the original military conflict that 9/11 precipitated. Anybody who saw the name Operation Enduring Freedom and did not instantly feel in their gut that this was going to turn into a never-ending mission creep cluster fuck never nurtured nurtured their inner cynic. Bush almost immediately took the eye off the ball and diverted crucial resources away from the pursuit of Bin Laden towards staging the entirely unrelated, unnecessary and ultimately disastrous invasion of Iraq.

Because of that we as a nation never really recovered from 9/11 in the same way we did from Pearl Harbor. We never earned anything resembling a truly tangible victory over the enemies who attacked us, we never found an effective way to deal with the psychic wound, and we’re sociologically paying for that in spades.

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WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:43:14pm

re: #61 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That’s lovely. Looking forward to progress pics!

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Nyet  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:43:24pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

Automatic Nonsense Generator?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:43:40pm

re: #114 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We are hopefully being overly cautious but since the last experience better over-prepared than otherwise.

Especially since I don’t think she’s gotten the renter’s insurance sorted out yet. The more of her stuff she can get in her car, the better.

There was video during the Oakland Hills Fire of people evacuating while burning embers fly around them. It was pretty damned scary to watch.

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nines09  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:43:51pm

re: #108 lawhawk

Millions of dollars, but the costs are far higher, especially for the millions of people in states that didn’t expand Medicare and therefore didn’t benefit from coverage.

And the states that refused to expand Medicare are primarily GOP dominated states and those that had among the highest rates of uninsureds in the first place.

I was angling for the legislative cost, as in DC. The cost to the citizens in the states where they did not expand is incalculable. Pennsylvania was one. We now have the ACA in effect but I personally know people it hurt. And….They voted Republican.

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nines09  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:44:57pm

re: #119 goddamnedfrank

The biggest problem is that we never even tried to get closure in the original military conflict that 9/11 precipitated. Anybody who saw the name Operation Enduring Freedom and did not instantly feel in their gut that this was going to turn into a never-ending mission creep cluster fuck never nurtured nurtured their inner cynic. Bush almost immediately took the eye off the ball and diverted crucial resources away from the pursuit of Bin Laden towards staging the entirely unrelated, unnecessary and ultimately disastrous invasion of Iraq.

Because of that we as a nation never really recovered from 9/11 in the same way we did from Pearl Harbor. We never earned anything resembling a truly tangible victory over the enemies who attacked us, we never found an effective way to deal with the psychic wound, and we’re sociologically paying for that in spades.

That was my thoughts exactly. We are suffering from a form of PTSD on a national level. I remember seeing the troops at the bottom of Tora Bora, and them saying OBL was “up there” and me wondering why they were not….”up there.”

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:46:12pm

The good news is that I got my teeth cleaned today and now they’re all slicked up, tuned and race ready.

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makeitstop  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:46:24pm

re: #111 A Mom Anon

My friends call it fetishizing death and co-opting grief as an excuse to hate.

For the first few years after, it made me so cynical that I referred to the goings-on as the ‘Orgy O’Grief.’

I had friends in the towers that day, and one friend who worked at a company that I did freelance work for went missing for three days and we didn’t know what the hell happened to him. I could smell the electrical fires some 35 miles away.

I hold very little truck for people in other parts of the country who try to patriot-splain what 9/11 was about. Nowadays I just avoid it all. I won’t get back on Facebook until Monday. I’ve had my fill and observe the day quietly now.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:46:37pm
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thedopefishlives  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:46:57pm

re: #127 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Whoa, baby. Stuff be on fire.

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ipsos  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:47:53pm

This looks like a delightful place for anyone who has any interest in the history of technology…

jklmuseum.com

Only you can’t go, because the Butte fire apparently leveled it overnight and it exists only in pictures now.

(thinking of your sister here, klys)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:49:32pm

re: #126 makeitstop

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:50:32pm

re: #47 wrenchwench

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The other bird is thinking, “Why do I hang out with this idiot?”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:50:33pm

re: #129 ipsos

This looks like a delightful place for anyone who has any interest in the history of technology…

jklmuseum.com

Only you can’t go, because the Butte fire apparently leveled it overnight and it exists only in pictures now.

(thinking of your sister here, klys)

:(

I hate it when we lose pieces of history like that. And there’s a lot of stuff like that in the small towns in the Sierras that will be lost.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:51:07pm

re: #61 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Very nice.

Not my photo, but I finished this same grasshopper origami model the other day, and boy is my back still sore from patting it. Two hours work. ;-)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:51:15pm

Just told MrBWS that all this “Never Forget!” 9/11 stuff is like this generation’s version of Concord, the Maine, the Alamo, and Pearl Harbor.
Eventually it gets romanticized (for want of a better term that I can’t come up with at the moment) all out of proportion to the actual event.
I’m sure there are other examples.

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WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:51:59pm

re: #125 goddamnedfrank

The good news is that I got my teeth cleaned today and now they’re all slicked up, tuned and race ready.

And you’ll never eat again!

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:53:14pm

re: #60 Rocky-in-Connecticut

These Republican candidates are simply bringing the small town way of doing things to the national stage.

And it shows.

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bratwurst  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:53:36pm

It says your money is going to be drying up soon as well.

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wrenchwench  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:54:21pm

re: #132 klys (maker of Silmarils)

:(

I hate it when we lose pieces of history like that. And there’s a lot of stuff like that in the small towns in the Sierras that will be lost.

We have had some of the biggest fires in history here, but nobody lives out there. You got people everywhere in Ca.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:54:35pm

re: #121 Nyet

Automatic Nonsense Generator?

Grant from the Manhattan Institute? Oh wait, that’s redundant.

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Skip Intro  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:54:59pm

re: #137 bratwurst

If that’s the only thing that he has a problem with in the GOP, Rand is even more clueless than I thought.

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freetoken  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:55:18pm

re: #137 bratwurst

You would think by now Rand would know better than to throw out a question like that to the wilds of twitter.

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nines09  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:56:22pm

re: #137 bratwurst

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It says your money is going to be drying up soon as well.

It says you are all suckers, sucker.

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teleskiguy  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:58:54pm
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thedopefishlives  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:59:05pm

The History Channel is running a series of 9/11 specials. I don’t think I can watch. For one thing, fishspawn are here at home with me. For another thing, it’s the History Channel; I won’t watch it just on principle. I’m sure they do good things with some subject, but Hitler and aliens just don’t do it for me.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 11, 2015 • 4:59:47pm

re: #119 goddamnedfrank

In WWII, we had easily defined enemies, and what we had to do to defeat them was pretty much straighforward - keep killing them until they stopped trying to kill us. Because we were at war with whole nations, we didn’t have to worry about collateral damage, we didn’t have to worry about hearts and minds. Just kill them till they stopped killing us. THEN worry about hearts and minds.

So many times after 9/11 I heard people talk about it as if it were the same, as if all we had to do was keep killing till the killing stopped, as if there was a defined population of individuals, the Terrorists, and if we wiped THEM out, it would all be over. No thought about where terrorists come from, or how to separate them from the population at large. Killing civilians wouldn’t be a problem, because our cause was RIGHT, and they’d understand, or something.

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b.d.  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:00:52pm

So if 3 more deadend, bottom feeding losers drop out before the debate then they’ll get the whole stage/hour of the kiddie table to themselves?

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Great White Snark  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:00:58pm

re: #138 wrenchwench

We have had some of the biggest fires in history here, but nobody lives out there. You got people everywhere in Ca.

Ever read Ecology Of Fear Los Angeles and the Imagination Of Disaster?

Our “wildfire” season coincides with deadly tenement fires, at the same time and for the same reason. Hot, dry, windy and lots of ignition sources. Add crowding, few fire safety inspections and you get that recipe for disaster we know so well here.

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teleskiguy  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:01:05pm

Heh.

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nines09  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:01:16pm

re: #145 Blind Frog Belly White

In WWII, we had easily defined enemies, and what we had to do to defeat them was pretty much straighforward - keep killing them until they stopped trying to kill us. Because we were at war with whole nations, we didn’t have to worry about collateral damage, we didn’t have to worry about hearts and minds. Just kill them till they stopped killing us. THEN worry about hearts and minds.

So many times after 9/11 I heard people talk about it as if it were the same, as if all we had to do was keep killing till the killing stopped, as if there was a defined population of individuals, the Terrorists, and if we wiped THEM out, it would all be over. No thought about where terrorists come from, or how to separate them from the population at large. Killing civilians wouldn’t be a problem, because our cause was RIGHT, and they’d understand, or something.

And right now the GOP is attempting to use the same kill them all logic about Iran.

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teleskiguy  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:03:19pm

Reihan haz a sad.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:03:31pm
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freetoken  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:03:33pm

Getting back to this weekend’s meeting by the European Society for the study of Human Evolution, in addition to yesterday’s presentation about DNA from Spain, there is now DNA data on three more Denisovans, presented this afternoon:

Genetic analyses of three Denisovan individuals from the Altai Mountains (Siberia):

1 - Department of Evolutionary Genetics, Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology, Leipzig, Germany * 2 - Department of Anthropology, University of Toronto, Canada * 3 - Department of Human Evolution, Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology, Leipzig, Germany * 4 - Institute of Archaeology and Ethnography, Russian Academy of Sciences, Siberian Branch, Russia * 5 - Novosibirsk National Research State University, Russia * 6 - Altai State University, Russia

In 2010, the genetic analysis of a juvenile manual phalanx (Denisova 3) from Denisova Cave (Siberia, Russia) revealed the existence of a previously unknown hominin group, the Denisovans [1]. While the mitochondrial genome of this specimen falls basal to
Neandertals and modern humans, nuclear DNA shows that were a sister-group to Neandertals [2, 3]. More recently, three teeth from this site have been tentatively attributed to the Denisovan group: one deciduous second molar (Denisova 2) and two permanent third molars (Denisova 4 and Denisova 8). Ongoing genetic analyses of these three samples are presented here. DNA was extracted from the three teeth and converted to DNA libraries. Mitochondrial (mt) DNA fragments were isolatedfrom each DNA library and used to reconstruct high-coverage mitochondrial genomes. e three teeth and the phalanx originate from four different individuals, whose mitochondrial genomes cluster together outside the mtDNA variation of Neandertals and modern humans. While the mitochondrial genome sequences of Denisova 3 and Denisova 4 differ by two positions, those of 2 and Denisova 8 are more divergent. e branches leading to Denisova 2 and Denisova 8 are shorter than those leading to Denisova 3 and Denisova 4, reflecting that the former mtDNAs have accumulated fewer nucleotide substitutions. Assuming that the mutation rate for human mtDNA [4] is applicable to the Denisovan lineage, we estimate that Denisova 2 and Denisova 8 are approximately 65,000 years older than Denisova 3 and Denisova 4, consistent with their putatively greater age inferred from stratigraphy at the site. us, these findings could indicate that Denisova Cave was inhabited by Denisovans over a prolonged period of time.

A total of 47.2Mb, 1.0Mb and 24.1Mb of nuclear DNA sequences were recovered from Denisova 2, Denisova 4 and Denisova 8, respectively. By comparing the number of sequences mapping to the autosomes to those mapping to the X chromosome, we determined that Denisova 2 originates from a female (as does Denisova 3), while Denisova 4 and Denisova 8 belong to males. Nuclear sequences from the three individuals are more similar to the high coverage Denisova 3 genome than to the Neandertal genome. Moreover, we find that nuclear diversity among the four Denisovans is higher than among seven Neandertals for which nuclear DNA have previously been recovered.

Our findings confirm that these three molars originate from Denisovan individuals, thus expanding the known fossil record to this extinct hominin group and providing additional information to assist in the identification of other fossils potentially belonging to Denisovans. Although to date, Denisovans have been identified only from a single site, genetic diversity among members of this group is higher than among Neandertals from a wide geographic range. However, we note that the large age differences estimated between the four Denisovans may also explain the higher diversity.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:04:06pm

re: #151 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Gah, from yesterday. I should check my dates better.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:05:10pm

During almost every commercial break of the US Open there’s a forgettable ad which features the song “Everybody’s Talkin’,” and I knock wood that the families of the late greats Harry Nilsson and Fred Neil get at least a few bucks every time it airs.

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Great White Snark  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:05:59pm

….Hahahaha *long inhale* Oath Keepers too crazy for Kim Davis.

rightwingwatch.org

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:07:59pm

re: #119 goddamnedfrank

The biggest problem is that we never even tried to get closure in the original military conflict that 9/11 precipitated. Anybody who saw the name Operation Enduring Freedom and did not instantly feel in their gut that this was going to turn into a never-ending mission creep cluster fuck never nurtured nurtured their inner cynic. Bush almost immediately took the eye off the ball and diverted crucial resources away from the pursuit of Bin Laden towards staging the entirely unrelated, unnecessary and ultimately disastrous invasion of Iraq.

Because of that we as a nation never really recovered from 9/11 in the same way we did from Pearl Harbor. We never earned anything resembling a truly tangible victory over the enemies who attacked us, we never found an effective way to deal with the psychic wound, and we’re sociologically paying for that in spades.

A big part of the difficultly with 9/11 is that closure like we had in WWII is impossible, even if GW Bush et al. hadn’t cynically used the tragedy to start an irrelevant war in Iraq.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:08:56pm

re: #137 bratwurst

[Embedded content]

It says your money is going to be drying up soon as well.

It says your party is stupid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:09:15pm

Key and Peele on right now.
Introducing MrBWS to them for the very first time.
He loves it.

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Great White Snark  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:10:21pm

re: #156 EPR-radar

Fighting a nation, or even axis of hostile nations has a start, a middle and an end. Fighting an idea, an idea that uses violent young to procreate the idea of a religious struggle for dominance is an endless war.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:10:45pm

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

Key and Peele on right now.
Introducing MrBWS to them for the very first time.
He loves it.

They’re great. Too bad it’s the last season but we’re gonna see more of Jordan & Keegan.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:12:47pm

re: #156 EPR-radar

A big part of the difficultly with 9/11 is that closure like we had in WWII is impossible, even if GW Bush et al. hadn’t cynically used the tragedy to start an irrelevant war in Iraq.

I think in Bush’s case it wasn’t so much cynicism as it is naivete. I think he and a lot of the PNAC types really, truly believed all they needed to do was to kick over the anthill, and everything would come up Western-style pluralistic democracies.

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:13:05pm

re: #159 Great White Snark

Fighting a nation, or even axis of hostile nations has a start, a middle and an end. Fighting an idea, an idea that uses violent young to procreate the idea of a religious struggle for dominance is an endless war.

Absolutely. This is why the whole “War on Terror’ narrative was off the rails from the very beginning.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:13:22pm

re: #161 Blind Frog Belly White

I think in Bush’s case it wasn’t so much cynicism as it is naivete. I think he and a lot of the PNAC types really, truly believed all they needed to do was to kick over the anthill, and everything would come up Western-style pluralistic democracies.

I think this is the case yes.

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:13:52pm

re: #161 Blind Frog Belly White

I think in Bush’s case it wasn’t so much cynicism as it is naivete. I think he and a lot of the PNAC types really, truly believed all they needed to do was to kick over the anthill, and everything would come up Western-style pluralistic democracies.

Bush may have essentially been a dupe. Cheney was in it for the $$$, IMO.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:13:57pm

re: #155 Great White Snark

….Hahahaha *long inhale* Oath Keepers too crazy for Kim Davis.

rightwingwatch.org

Rhodes ends with a “special message to our critics”:

As for the many harsh critics of our offer to protect Mrs. Davis, it is frankly sad that so many Americans cannot understand taking a stand in defense of someone’s due process rights regardless of who that person is, what they stand for, or what they are accused of doing or have done. That should not matter, and all that should matter is our common ground of the Bill of Rights and the hard-won rights of due process and in particular jury trial. As I told one person who wrote in:

You can’t see past your opposition to what she did long enough to see our point about due process and the dangers of having judges use their contempt power like a magic wand to put people into indefinite detention till they submit. Please try to focus on the due process rights of the accused, not on the particular crime. I would, and have, stood up for the due process rights or anyone, regardless of the accusations made against them. I did so during the Bush Admin, when I stood up for the due process rights of Yasir Hamdi and Jose Padila, both of whom are Muslim Americans who were held in indefinite detention by Bush. I also stood up for the due process rights of the detainees at Guantanamo Bay. And the paper I wrote at Yale Law about that won Yale’s top prize for best paper on the Bill of Rights. But that was during the Bush years, and was a harsh criticism of what a Republican was doing to Muslims. so the leftist professors at Yale ate it up.
Now, with the shoe on the other foot, leftists are apparently as blind to the bedrock issues of due process for someone they despise - Davis - as the Bush supporters were when it came to someone they despised - Jose Padilla and Yasir Hamdi.

Clearly, in America, what matters most is whether the accused is seen as a “good guy” or a “bad guy” and if seen as being bad, then there is zero concern for due process and people will clamor for expedited punishment. I suppose that is just a reflection of human nature. But sad nonetheless.

Now, after a cycle of the Republicans in power, and then the Democrats, with both exponentially growing the military industrial complex, national security surveillance state over us, I see that Orwell was right when he said “If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.” It doesn’t matter to me whether it is a right boot or a left boot. Or whether you think the person being smashed deserves it. I oppose it. - Stewart

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:15:32pm

re: #161 Blind Frog Belly White

I think in Bush’s case it wasn’t so much cynicism as it is naivete. I think he and a lot of the PNAC types really, truly believed all they needed to do was to kick over the anthill, and everything would come up Western-style pluralistic democracies.

Another point. Even if sincere belief in PNAC fever dreams by Bush/Cheney is assumed, using the 9/11 tragedy to manipulate US public opinion in favor of the Iraq war still counts as deeply cynical.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:15:45pm

Sheesh, this heat wave just won’t let go! I was about to go change for the post-work ride I skipped the last two nights, and I checked the temps along my route - 94, 92, 98, 98, 96, 95, 90, 95. So, like 8 degrees cooler than Wednesday, but still hot as f**k!

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freetoken  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:15:56pm

re: #156 EPR-radar

You hit the nail on the head, I think.

The Bush-Cheney crowd sold to the American public a view of the world that is strongly colored by WWII. It’s the idea that we, the US, can definitively run the world by totally conquering a few nation states.

We did it in ‘45, so we can do it today, too, right?

Well, first off, I think Americans like to take too much credit for winning WWII. The massive losses by the Soviet Union to Hitler are rarely acknowledged, as well as the giant cost that the Chinese paid. (We also conveniently forget that, even if we didn’t approve of Japan taking Manchuria and Korea, we were not about to go to war to save the Koreans and Chinese.)

This false model of America-as-savior is sold to Americans on the basis of our being the victor in WWII. It’s still done today. In some part the brouhaha over the Iran deal is because the model Obama is using for foreign policy departs from the old sales-pitch.

The belief that the US can fix the world if only we applied enough resources to gather enough military victories is folly.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:16:31pm

re: #161 Blind Frog Belly White

I think in Bush’s case it wasn’t so much cynicism as it is naivete. I think he and a lot of the PNAC types really, truly believed all they needed to do was to kick over the anthill, and everything would come up Western-style pluralistic democracies.

how short sighted did they have to be to not realize that establishing a democracy in the only other shi’ite majority country in the muslim world would create a strong ally for iran?

and that people are not automatically grateful when you “save” them when they never asked you to

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:17:58pm

The fact Mr. Stewart refuses to get is Ms. Davis is violating other people’s rights and then when she’s called out on it, she cries persecution. Likening this to Gitmo is intellectually dishonest and he knows it.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:18:28pm

re: #168 freetoken

truth be told, the soviets did more than 50% of the fighting to defeat the nazis

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Great White Snark  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:19:03pm

re: #168 freetoken

You hit the nail on the head, I think.

The Bush-Cheney crowd sold to the American public a view of the world that is strongly colored by WWII. It’s the idea that we, the US, can definitively run the world by totally conquering a few nation states.

We did it in ‘45, so we can do it today, too, right?

Well, first off, I think Americans like to take too much credit for winning WWII. The massive losses by the Soviet Union to Hitler are rarely acknowledged, as well as the giant cost that the Chinese paid. (We also conveniently forget that, even if we didn’t approve of Japan taking Manchuria and Korea, we were not about to go to war to save the Koreans and Chinese.)

This false model of America-as-savior is sold to Americans on the basis of our being the victor in WWII. It’s still done today. In some part the brouhaha over the Iran deal is because the model Obama is using for foreign policy departs from the old sales-pitch.

The belief that the US can fix the world if only we applied enough resources to gather enough military victories is folly.

Also—-
“”“We saved Kuwait”“” was an undeniable undertow on more rational logic.

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:19:58pm

re: #168 freetoken

We also tend to forget that WWII was extremely unusual for a war, in the sense that it pretty much did have good guys and bad guys, and the US was one of the good guys.

WWI is a much more typical war, nothing but death and destruction for no apparent reason.

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nines09  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:21:31pm

re: #168 freetoken
Staggering if you’ve never seen it. Video

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#CampaignZero  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:23:18pm

re: #144 thedopefishlives

The History Channel is running a series of 9/11 specials. I don’t think I can watch. For one thing, fishspawn are here at home with me. For another thing, it’s the History Channel; I won’t watch it just on principle. I’m sure they do good things with some subject, but Hitler and aliens just don’t do it for me.

CNN has had on America’s Mayor like for 3 shows. I finally turned it off when Wolf called him that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:24:35pm

re: #166 EPR-radar

Another point. Even if sincere belief in PNAC fever dreams by Bush/Cheney is assumed, using the 9/11 tragedy to manipulate US public opinion in favor of the Iraq war still counts as deeply cynical.

I tend to think of them as people who had never learned that you should always be your own harshest critic. They are wishful thinking and confirmation bias writ large. Cripes, most of them, even the ones who had ‘crises of faith’ as Iraq descended into chaos after 2003, STILL believe that shit, and just think we need to try it on another country.

Then again, they still apparently believe you just have to cut taxes a little more to solve the deficit problem. Go figure.

“You have no respect for logic, and I have no respect for those who have no respect for logic.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:25:35pm

re: #169 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

how short sighted did they have to be to not realize that establishing a democracy in the only other shi’ite majority country in the muslim world would create a strong ally for iran?

and that people are not automatically grateful when you “save” them when they never asked you to

Exceptionally.

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#CampaignZero  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:28:26pm

re: #156 EPR-radar

A big part of the difficultly with 9/11 is that closure like we had in WWII is impossible, even if GW Bush et al. hadn’t cynically used the tragedy to start an irrelevant war in Iraq.

Terrorism by actors, not a state/country.

Terrorism is terrorism.

I get pissed that we showed and continue to show how it totally freaked us out. They got exactly what they wanted.

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:28:38pm

re: #176 Blind Frog Belly White

I tend to think of them as people who had never learned that you should always be your own harshest critic. They are wishful thinking and confirmation bias writ large. Cripes, most of them, even the ones who had ‘crises of faith’ as Iraq descended into chaos after 2003, STILL believe that shit, and just think we need to try it on another country.

Then again, they still apparently believe you just have to cut taxes a little more to solve the deficit problem. Go figure.

“You have no respect for logic, and I have no respect for those who have no respect for logic.”

I wouldn’t have nearly as much of a problem with the PNAC true believers if they had managed to sell the war on Iraq to the public and Congress based on reasonably factual arguments.

That didn’t happen. Instead we had the bullshit of the week for months, culminating in Colin Powell’s pack of lies at the UN.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:29:46pm

Yuuuuuge round of applause for retired tennis player James Blake when his visage is shown on the Jumbotron at the US Open. Terrific player and from what I hear from my Connecticut friends a nice guy.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:30:46pm

re: #180 De Kolta Chair

Yuuuuuge round of applause for retired tennis player James Blake when his visage is shown on the Jumbotron at the US Open. Terrific player and nice guy.

Classy of the crowd. Heard what happened to him. Shit needs to end.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:31:33pm

re: #179 EPR-radar

I wouldn’t have nearly as much of a problem with the PNAC true believers if they had managed to sell the war on Iraq to the public and Congress based on reasonably factual arguments.

That didn’t happen. Instead we had the bullshit of the week for months, culminating in Colin Powell’s pack of lies at the UN.

Yeah the dishonesty and fear campaign pissed me off.

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#CampaignZero  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:32:20pm

re: #167 Blind Frog Belly White

Sheesh, this heat wave just won’t let go! I was about to go change for the post-work ride I skipped the last two nights, and I checked the temps along my route - 94, 92, 98, 98, 96, 95, 90, 95. So, like 8 degrees cooler than Wednesday, but still hot as f**k!

I am so over it. Supposed to cool down starting tomorrow……..

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CuriousLurker  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:32:59pm

OT Drive-by: Updated 2016 candidates spreadsheet with Perry stricken out. drive.google.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:33:19pm

re: #173 EPR-radar

We also tend to forget that WWII was extremely unusual for a war, in the sense that it pretty much did have good guys and bad guys, and the US was one of the good guys.

WWI is a much more typical war, nothing but death and destruction for no apparent reason.

Well, leaving aside the moral ‘Good Guys vs Bad Guys’ aspect, WWI and WWII have more in common than either has with the GWOT. In both WW’s, as in most of the wars we remember from history, nation-states warred with each other, and it ended when one side was defeated soundly enough to give up, or was completely crushed.

The GWOT is like the worst aspects of the Vietnam War but with the potential for mass casualties within the US.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:34:08pm

re: #184 CuriousLurker

OT Drive-by: Updated 2016 candidates spreadsheet with Perry stricken out. drive.google.com

Great work.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:34:33pm

re: #181 HappyWarrior

Classy of the crowd. Heard what happened to him. Shit needs to end.

Thanks again, NYPD, for shaming the city you’re sworn to defend and protect.

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:35:55pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

Yeah the dishonesty and fear campaign pissed me off.

I was actually in favor of going into Iraq at the time, on the grounds that we shouldn’t put up with Saddam Hussein’s game playing in a post 9/11 world. I’ve reversed my view since then, but that at least was a reality based argument as opposed to the case that was made in the media by the administration.

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Bubblehead II  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:37:15pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

I am now ready to declare victory in the Unicode Wars. Mission accomplished.

You wish. There is ALWAYS something you missed.. I will lay (one of) my subscription on it. I used to code (Commodore) basic. It always found a way to bite me when I least expected it. Exceptions are the rule as other coders regardless of the language will remind you. But thanks for your hard work and attention to details. It is appreciated.

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compound_Idaho  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:55:04pm

re: #185 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, leaving aside the moral ‘Good Guys vs Bad Guys’ aspect, WWI and WWII have more in common than either has with the GWOT. In both WW’s, as in most of the wars we remember from history, nation-states warred with each other, and it ended when one side was defeated soundly enough to give up, or was completely crushed.

The GWOT is like the worst aspects of the Vietnam War but with the potential for mass casualties within the US.

That is why I opposed the war. I believed Iraq had chemical and biological weapons and would use them. I sure as hell did not want to see our guys working their way through the streets of Baghdad in chem suites and respirators. I was sure the cost would be too high.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2015 • 5:56:20pm

re: #188 EPR-radar

I was actually in favor of going into Iraq at the time, on the grounds that we shouldn’t put up with Saddam Hussein’s game playing in a post 9/11 world. I’ve reversed my view since then, but that at least was a reality based argument as opposed to the case that was made in the media by the administration.

I was opposed but as you get at, you had a reality based argument.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Sep 11, 2015 • 6:12:30pm

re: #63 Nyet

Simple…in their mind, Eastern Orthodox are considered “the other” … not from here.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Sep 11, 2015 • 6:15:34pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

How in the hell does Ben Shapiro keep cranking out one absurd, repetitive right wing rant after another? They’re all interchangeable and he just keeps going and going, saying the same things over and over and over. It’s creepy.

The same way wingnuts always sound creepy and absurd. They have carved out their own little world unto themselves… a self-supporting, billionaire financed network of fantasy-based ideology that has divorced itself from 98% of the world’s population.

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Bubblehead II  Sep 11, 2015 • 6:20:45pm

Night Lizards. Sleep well.

Cal Smith - The Lord Knows I’m Drinking

Random Music from a drunk Lizard. Enjoy.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 11, 2015 • 6:39:22pm

re: #16 thedopefishlives

What makes you Christ is anywhere near this clusterfuck when he’s got real people to give his strength to?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 11, 2015 • 6:41:10pm

re: #137 bratwurst

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 11, 2015 • 6:46:36pm

re: #55 De Kolta Chair

Yeah, but Kinky can’t be nearly as bad as Abbot is. At least Abbot is taking damage due to the fact that he’s (gasp) Catholic.

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John Vreeland  Sep 11, 2015 • 8:17:26pm

There were 17 in bed and the loudmouth said “roll over! Roll over” so they all rolled over and Rick fell out. There were 16 in bed and the loudmouth said “Roll over! Roll over!”

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BongCrodny  Sep 11, 2015 • 10:35:42pm

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