re: #193 Obdicut

I think it’s very important that, even though they occasionally delve into the theological, the main argument is about the Church as an entity— not as it could be, but as it is. I think that Hitchens and Fry are reasonably fair in that regard. And I agree, I can’t think why that Archbishop was chosen, because his answers at every point were just really either “The church does a lot of good things”, which is rather missing the point, or “The church has a high holy mission that puts them automatically in the ‘doing good’ category”, which doesn’t fly for anyone who isn’t a Catholic.
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Donohue is a red-faced, angry, blithering idiot.

As to the other - the archbishop missed the point, truly. The Church is its people. Not Mother Teresa, but everyday folks like me. It’s OUR attention to things, to the “good works”, our conviction that we would always advocate for the greater good, that gets things done. And he missed it completely.