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Some thoughts on 'sex by surprise'

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iceweasel12/09/2010 5:42:37 am PST

re: #143 publicityStunted

Ever heard the term “hate fuck”? There was some controversy on Wonkette a while back when commenters were using it in the context of morally repulsive but physically attractive pundits/politicians. Some thought it meant rape, but others responded no, it means consensual sex with someone you otherwise despise because the physical attraction either overcomes the intellectual/moral revulsion or is strengthened(!) by it.

Publicity stunted— I remember that. And frankly I didn’t buy the claim that it isn’t, at least in some cases, used to covertly promote a rape agenda. I think liberal or conservative lists of female pundits they want to hate-fuck are part of rape culture and the sort of thing that keeps female participation in the political blogosphere low.
I have heard the term or rage fuck used in this way:

it means consensual sex with someone you otherwise despise because the physical attraction either overcomes the intellectual/moral revulsion or is strengthened(!) by it.

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when people are talking about an individual they know and have had sex with, and it’s not a gendered term in that usage (although an icky concept): continuing to have sex with someone when you’re angry at them, or you’ve even decided you can’t stand them and hate them. As in hatefucking your ex, etc. Men or women can use it, it’s used about actual instances of consensual sex with individuals

Men making up lists of pundits they’d like to hatefuck isn’t imagining ‘consensual sex with someone you despise…’

— It’s saying, I hate this woman and I’d still love to fuck her. I’d fuck her because I hate her! — about women they’ve never met. Not “I hatefucked my ex last night’. Or,

It’s not the same, at all. Women aren’t drawing up lists of men they want to hatefuck on feminist blogs. Men saying “I’d love to hatefuck” female pundit x— pundit x who is a stranger, with whom they have no relationship— is rape apologism, whether or not they intend it as such.

At least, that’s my view.