re: #198 engineer dog
i am kind of interested in the question: traditional morals and values - what are they?
Values claimed absolute but in reality relative to the vision of a better time long gone.
I know that isn’t the answer you were looking for, but despite the attempts to ‘fix’ morals in our society through religion, they are a constantly moving interpretation based on what people want to remember of better times, even if the better times weren’t really better.