re: #224 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, I do.

Can you address the negatives— that innocent young black men are routinely made to feel ostracized and as though the police are the enemy, leading them to trust the police and justice system less?

All other things aside, stop and frisk is keeping people from getting killed.

This is a fatuous point. Locking people inside their homes every day would keep people from getting killed too. So would a curfew. That something prevents people from getting killed is not a defense on its own.

The young man who feels robbed of his dignity should be asked pointedly how much dignity he’d find in the grave, since it is policies like stop and frisk that make it harder for criminals to shoot at him.

Do they? Can you demonstrate that stop and frisk has actually been effective?

Instead of hounding the police, the public should band together and ensure that gang crimes and gang organizations are promptly reported.

Why would they do that, when the cops routinely harass them despite being innocent? Why would they view the cops as a positive thing, when they routinely are lumped in with the gangs and humiliated on the street?

The NYPD has made clear it takes anti-gang action seriously since the 1990’s,so the public can know they will not be brushed off like they were back in the Bad Old Days. Remove the gangs, you;ll cut back on a great deal of shootings, and when those end there will be no more need for stop and frisk.

“remove the gangs”. Oh. That’s simple. For fuck’s sake, Dark, are you even putting any thought into this?