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Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)10/07/2011 8:33:13 pm PDT

re: #223 lostlakehiker

It’s not ANTI-union to want the basic principles that apply to elections of any sort.

But you know that union elections are not like elections of other sorts. It’s silly to compare a democratic election of a representative with a vote on whether or not to unionize. The situations aren’t comparable.

Private sector unionization is a legitimate counterweight to the power of private employers, particularly before the era of legislated workers’ rights. Public sector unions generally capture their counterparty negotiators, which leads to abuses, but that’s another story.

Yes. And in order for unions to be anywhere near the level of bargaining power of the companies, the laws need to provide for that. Union-busting is really easy if there aren’t protections for union organizing, as we’ve seen by the constant eroding of union power and union membership. Most union-busting activities in the US turn out successful in the end. The anti-union side is winning.

The right to privacy is one of the rights that liberals, generally, also support. So it cannot exactly be called a conservative position.

Um, okay. If you don’t want to claim the idea of right to privacy as a conservative position, fine. I’m not sure what basis you are arguing for a secret ballot on other than some sort of right to privacy, though; can you explain?