re: #248 Obdicut

I’m not sure I get your question. I’m saying that having an ancestral homeland doesn’t give one the right to that land. If you’re asking what gives a nation the right to exist at all, that’s rather involved.

I will grant you that having an ancestral homeland does not automatically give one the right to that land, however the identification of Jews with the biblical land of Israel is a strong moral basis for the claim in the absence of any superior claims.

In Israel’s case, in addition to the ancestral and historical homeland factors, the land is also hers also by virtue of the following:
1. The UN Declaration of 1948;
2. The defensive military victory of 1948;
3. The defensive military victory of 1967;
4. The defensive military victory of 1973; and,
5. The complete and utter absence of any superior rights to the land in favour of any other group, including the Arabs in Gaza and the West Bank.

Notwithstanding the foregoing, Israel has repeatedly offered the Arabs in Gaza and the West Bank land for peace, however they have to date not been interested.