re: #299 Charles

Been traveling, my bad if I missed those 4 posts…but frankly, I don’t see them. Perhaps we’re talking about different 900 pounders, I think:

1. Yamal. The integrity of the Briffa/Mann et all tree ring data has utterly disintegrated. There is no hockey stick. This has happened over the past 30 days.

2. The hacked emails. The emails (so far) ‘prove’ nothing so far … except that any reasonable skeptical inquirer would put the brakes on for 30 days, in the face of such obvious impeachment. (Analogy: The fact that Burkett had a seizure on TV when Dan Rather confronted him about the bad memos, didn’t ‘prove’ that Burkett forged them…but…)

3.Lindzen’s new 20-year satellite radiation data disproves the UN climate model. The heat isn’t being trapped; the “greenhouse” theory…failed.

4. Monkton remains unchallenged on the merits. The (man-made warming denier) Lord Monkton presentation making the rounds, hasn’t been addressed, nor rebutted, in any meaningful way. The only argument is an ad hominem fallacy, that…”he isn’t a scientist.” I don’t recall that bromide being used for Mr. Gore.

If these gorillas have been debunked by actual reason and logic, please point them out. Better yet, start a post on each, for your many readers to post good scientific (not political) links on these. You’d be doing long-time readers a great service, regardless of where the chips fall.

These serious points cannot be yelled down, or chuckled away; they need to be addressed.

Just the 2 cents of a rookie.

-winemaker