re: #303 subsailor68

Hi Ludwig! I accept your expertise, no question. Hey, I’m a writer, not a scientist! Just a couple of quick observations on your - pretty cool, if I might say so - post.

“GHG’s are quite real.” I can go with that. I can also go with “the more you pump into your atmosphere, the hotter it will get.” Everything you write after that is based on the premise that we are at a point where GHG’s are causing a critical situation - and that’s where scientists seem to disagree.

31,500 scientists in this country have signed a “petition”/letter saying that there is a question about this. (And yes, I know others have questioned these scientists’ motives.)

And, if - as you write - There is NO debate from any scientist that a problem is looming if we go on indefinitely as we are now. - I’d really love to have a link to data backing up that claim.

I don’t know about that petition, but I do know it is one of a very few positions statements of the APS (American physical society) that there is a problem. Honestly Sub, if there isn’t a vast consensus then the community is sure making a lot of noise for nothing.

As to no one says there is not a problem if we continue as we are indefinitely, look at the Keeling curves. These directly measure atmospheric concentrations optically.

ossfoundation.us

Notice how CO2 keeps going up and up (and O2 is going down) Now if you get, and buy, that the more GHG you have, the hotter it will get, then please notice how we just keep adding more and more of it. Therefore, NO scientist who looks at the measurements could possibly say that if these trends continue there would not be a problem.

As to your other excellent questions, it is late and I do not mean to be a dick, but you are basically asking me to rewrite all sorts of things I have written over the past several months.

Please look at this page and it’s links. It explains an awful lot and has all sorts of highways and byways you can look into.

earthguide.ucsd.edu

Also note, that I keep bringing stuff from Universities and Journals and Government scientific agencies and the other side tends to bring Michael Crichton?