re: #395 goddamnedfrank

That once plans hatched by bad leadership have been brought to ruin, most people will choose to live.

The crews of the Yamashiro and Fuso did not at the Battle of Surigao Strait (part of the larger Battle of Leyte Gulf). Even once their ships were destroyed, they refused rescue, preferring drowning to the disgrace surrender. Islamist regimes have many such people within them and some of them are high-level leaders.