re: #388 Kosh’s Shadow
SG-1 had the ancients (Asgard) in a battle with the replicators and the Ori - directly. Earthlings ended up getting Asgard technologies and carried on the fight agains the replicators and the Ori, all while continuing to deal with the Go’auld.
B5 was interesting because the Vorlon and Shadows both used others to fight for them - pulling the strings as it were in a galactic battle that raged on and off for millennium.