re: #409 iceweasel

During a session, water may be applied up to six times for ten seconds or longer (but never more than 40 seconds). In a 24-hour period, a detainee may be subjected to up to twelve minutes of water appliaction.(sic)

Twelve minutes is 720 seconds per day that a person can be subjected to water boarding. 720 divided by 10 = 72 periods. 72 divided by six (the maximum per session) = 12. Therefore to stay in the rules the CIA could water board KSM every other hour six times in _one_ day and still be inside the law. Over two days they have completely complied.

You’ll disagree, Ice Weasel, but think that the threat of people like Geller to our future far more important then what happened to KSM.

In war bad things happen, all we can do is reduce the amount of bad things…but they are still going to happen. And they should. If war wasn’t terrible then it would be far too attractive. We need to do bad things to our enemies and we rely on our soldiers to know when to stop.

This generation of kids does.

Going from history we’ve been a pretty brutal people. So I really don’t get where this “soul of our nation” is coming from. From Wounded Knee?

We’re the best nation on earth but sometimes you have to do shitty things to live.