re: #309 LudwigVanQuixote

Easy now, I am not advocating population police. I am saying the simple fact that if the world has more people on it than it can feed, bad things would happen.

This is not something you can easily dispute.

Charles has a good point. If Holden really was advocating things in the 70’s when the issue was clearly not looming - nor is it today, it says something about his ability to soberly look at data.

However, if, God forbid, that ever did become a reality, the choices are population reduction by warfare, starvation and disease vs. population reduction by limiting births. Either way, the population would get reduced.

As I have said a dozen times, the way to avoid that sort of future is by having more and more career minded women who have fewer children.

that’s why the pop in the u.s. is barely holding on. too many baby boomer women w/ only careers on their mind. bad move. many regret it. we do not have an over pop. problem here. and as i said, neither does europe. they are seriously on the decline. also japan. it is heartbreaking that granny age japanese women buy these toddler dolls that talk. and they treat them like grandchildren because they have none.
for your plan to combat starvation w/out war, you need to go to the middle east and other moslem countries and shut down the birth rates there.
it is suicide for the western world to continue to decline in population as the moslem nations grow.
you are not going to stop war by lowering your population.