re: #48 Cato the Elder

Big floods have happened before.

Crops have failed before.

Plagues and epidemics and starvation have all happened before.

These are not “evidence”, they are anecdotes.

I’m not even trying to say that your science is wrong.

But I’m also not sure that billions of people dying is either something we can prevent, or a bad thing. It might be the way the earth self-regulates to get the human population down to livable levels again.

Nature wiping out half of humanity would in my eyes in any case be better than humanity doing that to itself, in an effort to appease “nature”. Which is the only other way I can see for us to practically deal with the fact that overpopulation is the root cause of AGW.

There are several flaws in your arguments.

1. It is not that floods, famines, droughts and extreme weather events never happened before. It is that these things will start happening all over with increased intensity and frequency.

2. They are not anecdotes, these patterns of increasing extreme weather have been predicted for some time, and they are only going to get worse. It is not the individual events, but rather the trends in events. The trends make the arguments. One trend is more frequent and more devastating weather events.

3. This is not nature causing it. It is us doing it to ourselves and cause and effect taking over. In as much as the laws of physics are inclusive, and hence everything is natural, you have a point. But that point only exists to the notion that all the physics and chemistry that makes a gun go bang and a bullet fly are “mother nature.” We are pulling the trigger.