re: #472 der_ich
Fair enough. I am happy you have only found a leap of logic at the end. So it might not have been all idiotic ;). Will you be so kind and educate me on what is my leap of logic was?
Your assumption that waterboarding, face slapping, and catapillers ipso facto leads to murder for gain. That, sir, takes your argument into the absurd and is a dead end for debate.